[tpm] Talk volunteer... not for today though

[Michael Graham]

> So, anyone have a part of CGI::App that they particularly hate? :)

I can't remember all the details of what people were talking about.  I
do remember:

  * the run method does too much and is hard to override - it should be
    broken up into smaller, easily-overridable methods.  (This might
    have been done already.)
  * HTML::Template is too tightly coupled
  * managing HTTP headers is a complete pain

> I'm kinda terrified to mention it on the CGI::App mailing list for
> fears of getting back "are you insane... lightweight web framework +
> moose = oxymoron!"

As long as you're careful to label it a research project and not a
replacement, I don't think you'll get much flamage on the CGI::App
list.  

Also, I think Mark Stosberg started a rewrite of CGI::App awhile back in
Moose, didn't he?  Or was it in in Pugs?


Michael



On Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:55:48 -0400
"Dave Doyle" <dave.s.doyle at gmail.com> wrote:

> Well, I've got virtually 100% now.  The only thing it's not doing is
> allowing you to use QUERY, TMPL_PATH and PARAMS in the constructor
> (they must be lowercase).
> 
> Full test suite is passing now.  Any suggestions for improvement is
> more than welcome. :)  As I said, I've incorporated TT and a stash.
> I was thinking of chucking the callback system altogether since Moose
> allows you run code before/after/around any method.  Roles/Plugins
> that compose into the main class can use these hooks as well.  I'm
> not sure if a plugin author would find that appealing though.  I
> guess it depends.  I've also made some minor cosmetic changes as I'm
> a fan of the ternary operator instead of if(condition) { x =
> something } else { x = something else}.
> 
> So, anyone have a part of CGI::App that they particularly hate? :)
> 
> I guess I'll see when i get my PAUSE id (how long does that take
> anyhow it's been a little bit but I haven't heard back?) i can throw
> it up on CPAN and see if anyone is interested.  I'm kinda terrified
> to mention it on the CGI::App mailing list for fears of getting back
> "are you insane... lightweight web framework + moose = oxymoron!"
> This is, after all, going to be the first thing I try and put on CPAN.
> 
> D
> 
> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Michael Graham <magog at the-wire.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > You have my blessing for anything you steal.  I know you're going
> > for 100% compatibility, but it might be a good project for doing
> > some refactoring of some of the rough edges in cgiapp...
> >
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:21:17 -0400
> > "Dave Doyle" <dave.s.doyle at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Well... despite my message asking about the meeting it looks like
> > > I'll be unable to attend tonight.
> > >
> > > However, if we're running into a shortage of talks, I can
> > > volunteer to put something together about Moose for next month or
> > > whenever after.  After my lightening talk and continued hacking
> > > on Moose::CAP I've learned a lot more (and realized some stupid
> > > mistakes in what I was doing) and can probably help others get a
> > > start on things.
> > >
> > > I can also do more on what I've done with Moose::CAP.  I've
> > > actually applied for a PAUSE id to upload it to CPAN.  I've
> > > actually renamed it Sanguine (provided the PAUSE admins accept me
> > > and approve the new namespace).  I've also incorporated
> > > CGI::Application::Plugin::Forward (sorry for stealing Michael...
> > > but I give credit!), CGI::Application::Plugin::Redirect (I'm not
> > > sure if Cees is on here... but I've stolen from him in other
> > > places too) as well as incorporated a stash and TT.   I've also
> > > ported:
> > >
> > > CGI::Application::Plugin::DBH
> > > CGI::Application::Plugin::Session
> > > CGI::Application::Plugin::ValidateRM
> > > CGI::Application::Plugin::FillInForm
> > >
> > > to Moose roles using different patterns depending on the needs of
> > > the plugin which could be of interest.
> > >
> > > So if any of that sounds of interest, let me know.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Dave
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Michael Graham <magog at the-wire.com>
> >
> 
> 
> 


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Michael Graham <magog at the-wire.com>