From arocker at vex.net  Thu Jul 19 10:49:32 2007
From: arocker at vex.net (arocker at vex.net)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 13:49:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [tpm] Perl Trainers
Message-ID: <49181.192.30.202.28.1184867372.squirrel@webmail.vex.net>


Is anyone qualified to teach an introductory Perl course (in the US)
available August 6th - 8th? If so, please reply ASAP.

I hope this doesn't sound like spam; I'm trying not to breach a commitment.

Alan Rocker.


From linux at alteeve.com  Thu Jul 19 11:07:22 2007
From: linux at alteeve.com (Madison Kelly)
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:07:22 -0400
Subject: [tpm] Perl Trainers
In-Reply-To: <49181.192.30.202.28.1184867372.squirrel@webmail.vex.net>
References: <49181.192.30.202.28.1184867372.squirrel@webmail.vex.net>
Message-ID: <469FA85A.8090506@alteeve.com>

arocker at vex.net wrote:
> Is anyone qualified to teach an introductory Perl course (in the US)
> available August 6th - 8th? If so, please reply ASAP.
> 
> I hope this doesn't sound like spam; I'm trying not to breach a commitment.
> 
> Alan Rocker.

   Where abouts in the US? Is the course material already assembled? Are 
you/they looking for specific qualifications? Is there 
compensation/travel being offered?

   Sorry for 20-questions. :)

Madi

From dgahling at hotmail.com  Fri Jul 20 07:38:27 2007
From: dgahling at hotmail.com (Dan Gahlinger)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 10:38:27 -0400
Subject: [tpm] Perl Trainers
In-Reply-To: <469FA85A.8090506@alteeve.com>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F11D5646D796C2409F0EB68C9F40@phx.gbl>

Hey!

I'm looking for training in Toronto.

Isn't there anyone in Toronto doing training?

No one responded to my post. So I'm replying to this one.

Sorry for the bad form, but it's a bit frustrating.

Dan.


>From: Madison Kelly <linux at alteeve.com>
>To: arocker at vex.net
>CC: tpm at to.pm.org
>Subject: Re: [tpm] Perl Trainers
>Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:07:22 -0400
>
>arocker at vex.net wrote:
> > Is anyone qualified to teach an introductory Perl course (in the US)
> > available August 6th - 8th? If so, please reply ASAP.
> >
> > I hope this doesn't sound like spam; I'm trying not to breach a 
>commitment.
> >
> > Alan Rocker.
>
>    Where abouts in the US? Is the course material already assembled? Are
>you/they looking for specific qualifications? Is there
>compensation/travel being offered?
>
>    Sorry for 20-questions. :)
>
>Madi
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From shane_b at gennum.com  Fri Jul 20 12:51:50 2007
From: shane_b at gennum.com (Shane Boyce)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:51:50 -0400
Subject: [tpm] Perl Trainers
In-Reply-To: <BAY104-F11D5646D796C2409F0EB68C9F40@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <000001c7cb07$6a270460$ca810a0a@ad.gennum.com>

Training? What's that? I thought everyone learned Perl from the camel book ("Programming Perl")? :)

PS: What is your definition of a "qualified trainer"? I don't think Perl has a qualification exam like Microsoft does.

Shane


-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Gahlinger [mailto:dgahling at hotmail.com] 
Sent: July 20, 2007 10:38 AM
To: linux at alteeve.com; arocker at vex.net
Cc: tpm at to.pm.org
Subject: Re: [tpm] Perl Trainers

Hey!

I'm looking for training in Toronto.

Isn't there anyone in Toronto doing training?

No one responded to my post. So I'm replying to this one.

Sorry for the bad form, but it's a bit frustrating.

Dan.



From rdice at pobox.com  Fri Jul 20 13:03:50 2007
From: rdice at pobox.com (Richard Dice)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:03:50 -0400
Subject: [tpm] Perl Trainers
In-Reply-To: <BAY104-F11D5646D796C2409F0EB68C9F40@phx.gbl>
References: <469FA85A.8090506@alteeve.com>
	<BAY104-F11D5646D796C2409F0EB68C9F40@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <5bef4baf0707201303ka48ab68x5663dcc8aafdd629@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Dan,

I know a number of people in TPM who have done Perl training professionally
at one time or another.  I have done this myself before but it is in the
context of dedicated corporate training.  (E.g.  I would fly to Chicago and
have a classroom full of 20 tech people at Motorola for a week, and then fly
back to TO, and then fly back to Chicago the following week to do it all
over again with a new group.)

What did you have in mind?  For instance, another possibility is "Open
Classes", the kind where anyone can sign up.  But these are really difficult
to produce, so they aren't done too frequently as a result.

Cheers,
Richard

On 7/20/07, Dan Gahlinger <dgahling at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey!
>
> I'm looking for training in Toronto.
>
> Isn't there anyone in Toronto doing training?
>
> No one responded to my post. So I'm replying to this one.
>
> Sorry for the bad form, but it's a bit frustrating.
>
> Dan.
>
>
> >From: Madison Kelly <linux at alteeve.com>
> >To: arocker at vex.net
> >CC: tpm at to.pm.org
> >Subject: Re: [tpm] Perl Trainers
> >Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:07:22 -0400
> >
> >arocker at vex.net wrote:
> > > Is anyone qualified to teach an introductory Perl course (in the US)
> > > available August 6th - 8th? If so, please reply ASAP.
> > >
> > > I hope this doesn't sound like spam; I'm trying not to breach a
> >commitment.
> > >
> > > Alan Rocker.
> >
> >    Where abouts in the US? Is the course material already assembled? Are
> >you/they looking for specific qualifications? Is there
> >compensation/travel being offered?
> >
> >    Sorry for 20-questions. :)
> >
> >Madi
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From dgahling at hotmail.com  Fri Jul 20 13:49:31 2007
From: dgahling at hotmail.com (Dan Gahlinger)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 16:49:31 -0400
Subject: [tpm] Perl Trainers
In-Reply-To: <000001c7cb07$6a270460$ca810a0a@ad.gennum.com>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F402535D9ADA836C79B71BFC9F40@phx.gbl>

"qualified trainer" == "someone who knows what they're doing" :)


>From: "Shane Boyce" <shane_b at gennum.com>
>To: "'Dan Gahlinger'" <dgahling at hotmail.com>, <linux at alteeve.com>,        
><arocker at vex.net>
>CC: <tpm at to.pm.org>
>Subject: RE: [tpm] Perl Trainers
>Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:51:50 -0400
>
>Training? What's that? I thought everyone learned Perl from the camel book 
>("Programming Perl")? :)
>
>PS: What is your definition of a "qualified trainer"? I don't think Perl 
>has a qualification exam like Microsoft does.
>
>Shane
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Dan Gahlinger [mailto:dgahling at hotmail.com]
>Sent: July 20, 2007 10:38 AM
>To: linux at alteeve.com; arocker at vex.net
>Cc: tpm at to.pm.org
>Subject: Re: [tpm] Perl Trainers
>
>Hey!
>
>I'm looking for training in Toronto.
>
>Isn't there anyone in Toronto doing training?
>
>No one responded to my post. So I'm replying to this one.
>
>Sorry for the bad form, but it's a bit frustrating.
>
>Dan.
>
>

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From alexmac131 at hotmail.com  Fri Jul 20 14:46:10 2007
From: alexmac131 at hotmail.com (Alex Mackinnon)
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 21:46:10 +0000
Subject: [tpm] Perl Trainers
In-Reply-To: <BAY104-F402535D9ADA836C79B71BFC9F40@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY135-F27156CB84708AC90546E2F83F40@phx.gbl>


I think it may also be a classic case of price versus type of training.  The 
price point I am interested in , what would make it worth someones while ?



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>"qualified trainer" == "someone who knows what they're doing" :)
>
>
> >From: "Shane Boyce" <shane_b at gennum.com>
> >To: "'Dan Gahlinger'" <dgahling at hotmail.com>, <linux at alteeve.com>,
> ><arocker at vex.net>
> >CC: <tpm at to.pm.org>
> >Subject: RE: [tpm] Perl Trainers
> >Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:51:50 -0400
> >
> >Training? What's that? I thought everyone learned Perl from the camel 
>book
> >("Programming Perl")? :)
> >
> >PS: What is your definition of a "qualified trainer"? I don't think Perl
> >has a qualification exam like Microsoft does.
> >
> >Shane
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Dan Gahlinger [mailto:dgahling at hotmail.com]
> >Sent: July 20, 2007 10:38 AM
> >To: linux at alteeve.com; arocker at vex.net
> >Cc: tpm at to.pm.org
> >Subject: Re: [tpm] Perl Trainers
> >
> >Hey!
> >
> >I'm looking for training in Toronto.
> >
> >Isn't there anyone in Toronto doing training?
> >
> >No one responded to my post. So I'm replying to this one.
> >
> >Sorry for the bad form, but it's a bit frustrating.
> >
> >Dan.
> >
> >
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From dgahling at hotmail.com  Sat Jul 21 06:57:28 2007
From: dgahling at hotmail.com (Dan Gahlinger)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 09:57:28 -0400
Subject: [tpm] Perl Trainers
In-Reply-To: <BAY135-F27156CB84708AC90546E2F83F40@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F13925D32F76B306B26CE70C9F50@phx.gbl>

well in this particular case, if you had seen my original post,
you'd know for the full training package I was looking for someone who 
worked out of a registered school. Because the company I work for was paying 
for it.
so the typical $2500 or whatever it is for a course is quite reasonable.

for lesser training/non-school then of course the company can't pay and it 
means it's on my own dime, then it would depend on what that training 
encompasses, normally I'd have to look at specific things. Like a 1 day 
thing on multi-threading, or a 1 day thing on writing daemons or something. 
Because I can't afford that much. Maybe at most $500 if it has to come out 
of my pocket.

Dan.


>From: "Alex Mackinnon" <alexmac131 at hotmail.com>
>To: dgahling at hotmail.com, shane_b at gennum.com, linux at alteeve.com, 
>arocker at vex.net
>CC: tpm at to.pm.org
>Subject: Re: [tpm] Perl Trainers
>Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 21:46:10 +0000
>
>
>I think it may also be a classic case of price versus type of training.  
>The price point I am interested in , what would make it worth someones 
>while ?
>
>
>
>>From: "Dan Gahlinger" <dgahling at hotmail.com>
>>To: shane_b at gennum.com, linux at alteeve.com, arocker at vex.net
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>>"qualified trainer" == "someone who knows what they're doing" :)
>>
>>
>> >From: "Shane Boyce" <shane_b at gennum.com>
>> >To: "'Dan Gahlinger'" <dgahling at hotmail.com>, <linux at alteeve.com>,
>> ><arocker at vex.net>
>> >CC: <tpm at to.pm.org>
>> >Subject: RE: [tpm] Perl Trainers
>> >Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:51:50 -0400
>> >
>> >Training? What's that? I thought everyone learned Perl from the camel 
>>book
>> >("Programming Perl")? :)
>> >
>> >PS: What is your definition of a "qualified trainer"? I don't think Perl
>> >has a qualification exam like Microsoft does.
>> >
>> >Shane
>> >
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: Dan Gahlinger [mailto:dgahling at hotmail.com]
>> >Sent: July 20, 2007 10:38 AM
>> >To: linux at alteeve.com; arocker at vex.net
>> >Cc: tpm at to.pm.org
>> >Subject: Re: [tpm] Perl Trainers
>> >
>> >Hey!
>> >
>> >I'm looking for training in Toronto.
>> >
>> >Isn't there anyone in Toronto doing training?
>> >
>> >No one responded to my post. So I'm replying to this one.
>> >
>> >Sorry for the bad form, but it's a bit frustrating.
>> >
>> >Dan.
>> >
>> >
>>
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From liam at holoweb.net  Sat Jul 21 12:20:33 2007
From: liam at holoweb.net (Liam R E Quin)
Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 15:20:33 -0400
Subject: [tpm] Perl Trainers
In-Reply-To: <BAY104-F13925D32F76B306B26CE70C9F50@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY104-F13925D32F76B306B26CE70C9F50@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <1185045633.3823.9.camel@dell.barefootcomputing.com>


On Sat, 2007-07-21 at 09:57 -0400, Dan Gahlinger wrote:
> well in this particular case, if you had seen my original post,
> you'd know for the full training package I was looking for someone who 
> worked out of a registered school.

When I lived in Toronto there was a training outfit in the King/Yonge
area; yellow pages might list some, too.

Liam

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From dgahling at hotmail.com  Sun Jul 22 07:19:36 2007
From: dgahling at hotmail.com (Dan Gahlinger)
Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 10:19:36 -0400
Subject: [tpm] Perl Trainers
In-Reply-To: <1185045633.3823.9.camel@dell.barefootcomputing.com>
Message-ID: <BAY104-F35599FEBF351984958D62AC9F60@phx.gbl>

yess... yellow pages and other places will list some.
I have looked there already ready.

that doesn't tell me anything about how reliable or good the places are.

thats why I posted here. there are various perl "experts" here, some with 
decades of experience.
it is the people here with some decent training that would know which 
schools are worth the time.

otherwise I might as well go to the learning annex. (yuck)

Dan.


>From: Liam R E Quin <liam at holoweb.net>
>To: Dan Gahlinger <dgahling at hotmail.com>
>CC: alexmac131 at hotmail.com, shane_b at gennum.com, linux at alteeve.com,  
>arocker at vex.net, tpm at to.pm.org
>Subject: Re: [tpm] Perl Trainers
>Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 15:20:33 -0400
>
>
>On Sat, 2007-07-21 at 09:57 -0400, Dan Gahlinger wrote:
> > well in this particular case, if you had seen my original post,
> > you'd know for the full training package I was looking for someone who
> > worked out of a registered school.
>
>When I lived in Toronto there was a training outfit in the King/Yonge
>area; yellow pages might list some, too.
>
>Liam
>
>--
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From psema4 at gmail.com  Mon Jul 23 09:07:30 2007
From: psema4 at gmail.com (Scott Elcomb)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 12:07:30 -0400
Subject: [tpm] Startup Weekend Toronto
Message-ID: <99a6c38f0707230907g7b949c26if88b5d13396556af@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all!

Just want to let folks know (for those who don't already) that Startup
Weekend is coming to Toronto, September 14-16. The idea behind Startup
weekend is to get 60+ people together in one building to brainstorm
and create a Web 2.0 company in a single weekend.

>From the website:

"Create a new startup web company in 1 weekend, wind up owning a share
of the enterprise, meet some great people in both your own field and
beyond, have a great time and even have the chance to have YOUR idea
become the focus for the new venture. What is the value of an original
share in Google, Facebook or MySpace worth now?"

"Everyone who registers will be able to share ideas and have a say on
the final product selection. Those who contribute and complete the
weekend marathon will receive "founders" shares for their efforts."

So far this is the only Startup Weekend planned for Canada, and their
first international event.  The organizers are looking for people in
the following areas:

Business (Marketing / PR)
Creative (Design)
Creative (User Experience)
Legal
Videography / Blogging / Communications
Client Side (XHTML, CSS, Javascript, XML)
Server Side (PHP/MySQL, ASP.NET/MSSQL, CGI/Perl, JAVA, Ruby, ColdFusion)

Website: http://www.toronto.startupweekend.com/
Register: http://www.eventbrite.com/event/66081652

-- 
Scott Elcomb  [ http://www.psema4.com/ ]

"Our Founders' faith in the viability of representative democracy
rested on their trust in the wisdom of a well-informed citizenry,
their ingenious design for checks and balances, and their belief that
the rule of reason is the natural sovereign of a free people." - Al
Gore (The Assault on Reason, 2008)

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."  - Benjamin Franklin

'"A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting
on its shoes."  - Mark Twain

From linux at alteeve.com  Mon Jul 23 11:07:05 2007
From: linux at alteeve.com (Madison Kelly)
Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 14:07:05 -0400
Subject: [tpm] Perl Trainers
In-Reply-To: <49181.192.30.202.28.1184867372.squirrel@webmail.vex.net>
References: <49181.192.30.202.28.1184867372.squirrel@webmail.vex.net>
Message-ID: <46A4EE49.60203@alteeve.com>

Has anyone heard from Alan since Thursday? I am afraid he has been 
incommunicado. If you read this Alan, please contact me as soon as 
possible (647-501-5200).

Thanks and sorry for the line noise!

Madi

From magog at the-wire.com  Tue Jul 24 10:23:44 2007
From: magog at the-wire.com (Michael Graham)
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:23:44 -0400
Subject: [tpm] July Meeting - Thu 26 Jul, 2007 - our @topics = ();
Message-ID: <20070724132344.15df62ad@caliope>


(These details are also on the TPM web site: http://to.pm.org/)

The next meeting is this Thursday, 26 July.

Like the subject says, 

  our @topics = ();

So come out to the meeting and help push, unshift and splice all manner
of Perl-related things to the @topics array.

Or just come for the beer afterwards.

 
    Date:   Thursday 26 July 2007

    Time:   6:45pm

   Where:   2 Bloor Street West (NW corner of Yonge/Bloor, skyscraper
            with the CIBC logo on top) Classroom TBA

  ===================================================================

  Note:

    The elevators in the building are "locked down" after 5:30pm
    to people without building access cards.  Leading up to the
    meeting someone will come down to the main floor lobby every
    few minutes to ferry people upstairs.

    After 19:00, you can reach the access-card-carrying guy via
    a cell phone number that we'll leave with security in the
    front lobby.  The room and floor numbers will be left with
    security too.




-- 
Michael Graham <magog at the-wire.com>

From magog at the-wire.com  Thu Jul 26 09:27:20 2007
From: magog at the-wire.com (Michael Graham)
Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2007 12:27:20 -0400
Subject: [tpm] July Meeting - Thu 26 Jul, 2007 - our @topics = ();
In-Reply-To: <20070724132344.15df62ad@caliope>
References: <20070724132344.15df62ad@caliope>
Message-ID: <20070726122720.4aedecd9@caliope>


Tonight's meeting will be on the 8th Floor, Room 15.

Michael



On Tue, 24 Jul 2007 13:23:44 -0400
Michael Graham <magog at the-wire.com> wrote:

> 
> (These details are also on the TPM web site: http://to.pm.org/)
> 
> The next meeting is this Thursday, 26 July.
> 
> Like the subject says, 
> 
>   our @topics = ();
> 
> So come out to the meeting and help push, unshift and splice all
> manner of Perl-related things to the @topics array.
> 
> Or just come for the beer afterwards.
> 
>  
>     Date:   Thursday 26 July 2007
> 
>     Time:   6:45pm
> 
>    Where:   2 Bloor Street West (NW corner of Yonge/Bloor, skyscraper
>             with the CIBC logo on top) Classroom TBA
> 
>   ===================================================================
> 
>   Note:
> 
>     The elevators in the building are "locked down" after 5:30pm
>     to people without building access cards.  Leading up to the
>     meeting someone will come down to the main floor lobby every
>     few minutes to ferry people upstairs.
> 
>     After 19:00, you can reach the access-card-carrying guy via
>     a cell phone number that we'll leave with security in the
>     front lobby.  The room and floor numbers will be left with
>     security too.
> 
> 
> 
> 


-- 
Michael Graham <magog at the-wire.com>

From fulko.hew at gmail.com  Sun Jul 29 08:38:03 2007
From: fulko.hew at gmail.com (Fulko Hew)
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2007 11:38:03 -0400
Subject: [tpm] A Perl survey
Message-ID: <8204a4fe0707290838u175a611yea73bc6548b168dc@mail.gmail.com>

I don't know what the motivation is but there is a Perl survey
to see what the current state of the community is...


http://perlsurvey.org/

From linux at alteeve.com  Tue Jul 31 14:25:30 2007
From: linux at alteeve.com (Madison Kelly)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:25:30 -0400
Subject: [tpm] Regex to validate (international) phone numbers
Message-ID: <46AFA8CA.2070501@alteeve.com>

Hi all,

   To (hopefully) save some time I was hoping to pick TPM's collective
brain. I have a small module I use for validating various data types
(for user-input). One of the things I want to validate are telephone
numbers.

   I know I could strip off non-digit characters and then do something
like (not tested):

if ( $foo =~ /[1][\d{3}](\d{3})(\d{4})/) { print "$foo is valid\n" }

   But I would like to make this module portable so I want to be able to
validate international phone numbers, too. Has anyone seen or done this?
How might I go about checking telephone numbers from both NA and
international?

   I guess ultimately I can just write a series of simple regexes in
sequence but I am hoping for something more elegant/compact. :)

Thanks!

EDIT: Sent this the first time from my other email account. Sorry if 
this ends up being a dupe

From andy+lists at veracity.ca  Tue Jul 31 14:47:21 2007
From: andy+lists at veracity.ca (Andy Jack)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:47:21 -0400
Subject: [tpm] Regex to validate (international) phone numbers
In-Reply-To: <46AFA8CA.2070501@alteeve.com>
References: <46AFA8CA.2070501@alteeve.com>
Message-ID: <20070731214721.GC3349@seahorse.localdomain>

On Tue, Jul 31, 2007 at 05:25:30PM -0400, Madison Kelly wrote:
> Hi all,
>    I guess ultimately I can just write a series of simple regexes in
> sequence but I am hoping for something more elegant/compact. :)

CPAN suggests Number::Phone.

AJ

From liam at holoweb.net  Tue Jul 31 15:21:28 2007
From: liam at holoweb.net (Liam R E Quin)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:21:28 -0400
Subject: [tpm] Regex to validate (international) phone numbers
In-Reply-To: <46AFA8CA.2070501@alteeve.com>
References: <46AFA8CA.2070501@alteeve.com>
Message-ID: <1185920488.18694.15.camel@dell.barefootcomputing.com>


On Tue, 2007-07-31 at 17:25 -0400, Madison Kelly wrote:

>    But I would like to make this module portable so I want to be able to
> validate international phone numbers, too. Has anyone seen or done this?
> How might I go about checking telephone numbers from both NA and
> international?

In general, it can be pretty hard.  I had a friend whose
telephone number was Prickwillow 23, so you had to call the
international operator.

International phone numbers with direct dialing do have some
things you can check for usefully --
+country-code
followed usually by a code (often 0 or 1) that is to be dropped
when calling from outside the country
followed by digits, often with embedded punctuation.

If all you care about is that someone from either the same
or anothe country can dial the number, that's probably enough.

Andy pointed out Number::Phone, and that does have
Number::Phone::Normalize which might be useful.  It
looks like that package expects phone numbers to be just
digits and spaces (with an optional leading + sign), which
might or might not be what you need.  In practice you also
need to cope with "extension 3605" or "evenings only" too.

Liam


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From linux at alteeve.com  Tue Jul 31 15:41:15 2007
From: linux at alteeve.com (Madison Kelly)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 18:41:15 -0400
Subject: [tpm] Regex to validate (international) phone numbers
In-Reply-To: <1185920488.18694.15.camel@dell.barefootcomputing.com>
References: <46AFA8CA.2070501@alteeve.com>
	<1185920488.18694.15.camel@dell.barefootcomputing.com>
Message-ID: <46AFBA8B.5030400@alteeve.com>

Thanks Andy and Liam!

   Number::Phone was more than I needed, but the 'is_valid' function 
gave me enough of a pointer to work out something I think will work. As 
for extensions, I have a separate DB column for that.

   What I do is check for the leading '+' (as this is needed by some 
mobile GSM phones), strip off all non-digit characters, then check the 
length. Well, I check a little more than that, but ultimately it comes 
down to length. Then I can "clean up" the number to something standard 
before saving it.

   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_country_calling_codes

   That had enough info for me to feel comfortable that I can identify 
*most* international numbers. As for "evenings only" or alternative 
numbers, info like that will have to go in the comments section. The 
number asked for is simply "preferred number" so I have *something* on 
file.

   Thanks both!

Madi

From mkelly at alteeve.com  Tue Jul 31 14:12:16 2007
From: mkelly at alteeve.com (Madison Kelly)
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 17:12:16 -0400
Subject: [tpm] Regex to validate (international) phone numbers
Message-ID: <46AFA5B0.5020908@alteeve.com>

Hi all,

   To (hopefully) save some time I was hoping to pick TPM's collective 
brain. I have a small module I use for validating various data types 
(for user-input). One of the things I want to validate are telephone 
numbers.

   I know I could strip off non-digit characters and then do something 
like (not tested):

if ( $foo =~ /[1][\d{3}](\d{3})(\d{4})/) { print "$foo is valid\n" }

   But I would like to make this module portable so I want to be able to 
validate international phone numbers, too. Has anyone seen or done this? 
How might I go about checking telephone numbers from both NA and 
international?

   I guess ultimately I can just write a series of simple regexes in 
sequence but I am hoping for something more elegant/compact. :)

Thanks!