From Daniel.Sherer at healthnet.com Wed Jun 8 13:18:00 2005 From: Daniel.Sherer at healthnet.com (Daniel.Sherer@healthnet.com) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:18:00 -0700 Subject: [Thousand-oaks-pm] What's on the agenda (if anything) for tonight's Perl Monger meeting? Message-ID: Is anybody signed-up to present tonight? Daniel Sherer Manager, ITG Data Warehouse Health Net (818) 676-7592 This message,together with any attachments, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. It may contain information that is confidential and prohibited from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination or copying of this message or any attachment is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the original sender immediately by telephone or by return e-mail and delete this message, along with any attachments, from your computer. Thank you. From paul at pauljacobs.net Wed Jun 8 15:02:22 2005 From: paul at pauljacobs.net (Paul Jacobs) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 15:02:22 -0700 Subject: [Thousand-oaks-pm] What's on the agenda (if anything) for tonight's Perl Monger meeting? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: No, It's open. Anyone who wants to show something interesting or cool is welcome. Terrence has announced he's leaving the group. He had been informally but reliably helping with a lot of the administrative stuff - announcements, sign-ups, etc.. I think it's a good time to do some longer range planning. I'd like to try to have more people do less work individually, and co-ordinate with eachother, so that we can, for example, get the sign-ups finalized a bit earlier than we have been. Thoughts? Suggestions? - paul "A fool and his freedom are soon parted" -RMS On Jun 8, 2005, at 1:18 PM, Daniel.Sherer at healthnet.com wrote: > > Is anybody signed-up to present tonight? > > > > Daniel Sherer > Manager, ITG Data Warehouse > Health Net > (818) 676-7592 > > > > This message,together with any attachments, is > intended only for the use of the individual or entity > to which it is addressed. It may contain information > that is confidential and prohibited from disclosure. > If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that any dissemination or copying of this > message or any attachment is strictly prohibited. If > you have received this message in error, please notify > the original sender immediately by telephone or by > return e-mail and delete this message, along with any > attachments, from your computer. Thank you. > > > _______________________________________________ > Thousand-oaks-pm mailing list > Thousand-oaks-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/thousand-oaks-pm > From Daniel.Sherer at healthnet.com Wed Jun 8 16:24:10 2005 From: Daniel.Sherer at healthnet.com (Daniel.Sherer@healthnet.com) Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 16:24:10 -0700 Subject: [Thousand-oaks-pm] What's on the agenda (if anything) for tonight's Perl Monger meeting? Message-ID: > No, It's open. Anyone who wants to show something interesting or > cool is welcome. Terrence has announced he's leaving the group. He > had been informally but reliably helping with a lot of the > administrative stuff - announcements, sign-ups, etc.. > I think it's a good time to do some longer range planning. I'd like > to try to have more people do less work individually, and co-ordinate > with eachother, so that we can, for example, get the sign-ups > finalized a bit earlier than we have been. > Thoughts? Suggestions? > > - paul Very sorry to hear about Terrence leaving, he has contributed a LOT to our group and I will miss him. I agree that some longer range planning would be a good thing. Does anyone know how other groups are handling this? If not, I'll do some research to find out. Daniel Sherer Manager, ITG Data Warehouse Health Net (818) 676-7592 This message,together with any attachments, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. It may contain information that is confidential and prohibited from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination or copying of this message or any attachment is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the original sender immediately by telephone or by return e-mail and delete this message, along with any attachments, from your computer. Thank you. From dsherer at yahoo.com Thu Jun 9 22:10:02 2005 From: dsherer at yahoo.com (Daniel Sherer) Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 22:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Thousand-oaks-pm] Recap of last night's perlmongers meeting Message-ID: <20050610051002.19141.qmail@web32814.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Notes on a Perl Monger's meeting, June 8, 2005. Just four members attending tonight, Paul, Andrew, Gary and Daniel. Paul passed along the unhappy news that Terrence is no longer with the group. He's taking another direction and will certainly be missed. Unlike all the recent gatherings, which presented modules, applications or nifty tricks, this meeting focused on developing our group and spreading out the tasks of administering it. Here are some ideas that we kicked around... - More advanced meeting reminders. - More notice about topics - Less geographically specific name (perhaps Conejo-valley.pm?) - Less frequent meetings - Move website to a more maintainable server - Add a message board to communicate amongst members Andrew offered to help out with the website, as soon as we get it onto another server. Daniel offered to investigate moving the server. But we decided to keep the existing name. It appears that PM.Org will point it to our server. We ended with a discussion of how Andrew implemented a Perl-driven Flash site to display dealers located near a user-selected zip code. The integration of Perl/database on the back-end with Flash in the browser was surprising and very slick. Hope to see you next month! __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html From pjacobs at valueclick.com Fri Jun 10 10:10:41 2005 From: pjacobs at valueclick.com (Paul Jacobs) Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 10:10:41 -0700 Subject: [Thousand-oaks-pm] Recap of last night's perlmongers meeting Message-ID: <7A7034183C845E4B9963F65505BA34D1256E23@vchqex01.wl.corp.valueclick.com> Thanks for writing that up and sending it out. Please keep us informed on the website developments. I forgot to mention at the meeting before that I won't be able to make it to the next meeting. I have too much going on that week. Someone else will have to make sure that the doors, signs, and conference room are all set up. I'll be back for the August meeting. - paul -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Sherer [mailto:dsherer at yahoo.com] Sent: Thu 6/9/2005 10:10 PM To: thousand-oaks-pm at mail.pm.org Cc: Subject: [Thousand-oaks-pm] Recap of last night's perlmongers meeting Notes on a Perl Monger's meeting, June 8, 2005. Just four members attending tonight, Paul, Andrew, Gary and Daniel. Paul passed along the unhappy news that Terrence is no longer with the group. He's taking another direction and will certainly be missed. Unlike all the recent gatherings, which presented modules, applications or nifty tricks, this meeting focused on developing our group and spreading out the tasks of administering it. Here are some ideas that we kicked around... - More advanced meeting reminders. - More notice about topics - Less geographically specific name (perhaps Conejo-valley.pm?) - Less frequent meetings - Move website to a more maintainable server - Add a message board to communicate amongst members Andrew offered to help out with the website, as soon as we get it onto another server. Daniel offered to investigate moving the server. But we decided to keep the existing name. It appears that PM.Org will point it to our server. We ended with a discussion of how Andrew implemented a Perl-driven Flash site to display dealers located near a user-selected zip code. The integration of Perl/database on the back-end with Flash in the browser was surprising and very slick. Hope to see you next month! __________________________________ Discover Yahoo! Have fun online with music videos, cool games, IM and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/online.html _______________________________________________ Thousand-oaks-pm mailing list Thousand-oaks-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/thousand-oaks-pm From glim at mycybernet.net Thu Jun 16 21:48:00 2005 From: glim at mycybernet.net (Gerard Lim) Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2005 00:48 -0400 Subject: [Thousand-oaks-pm] Last-minute reminder -- YAPC::NA 2005 Message-ID: Here's a last reminder about Yet Another Perl Conference, North America (YAPC::NA 2005) http://yapc.org/America In case anyone out there has been sitting on the fence or has been meaning to register but has put it on the backburner until now, here is a final information package. Dates: Mon - Wed June 27 - 29, 2005 (11 days from now!) Location: 89 Chestnut Street, University of Toronto, Toronto, Ontario, Canada Accommodations ============== Due to recent renegotiations with the conference facility and hotel, 89 Chestnut, there are still a few rooms left. For details on accommodations go to: http://www.yapc.org/America/accommodations-2005.shtml For quick and easy booking: 89 Chestnut Phone: +1-416-977-0707 Conference booking code: perl0626 The base rate is approx. CAD$80/night, which is *great* for downtown Toronto. Add in taxes and in-room high speed internet and it's up to about CAD$95/night. Book yourself to check-in on Sunday the 26th and check-out on the morning of Wednesday the 29th. Conference Registration ======================= Registration is easy and cheap - only USD$85 - see http://yapc.org/America/register-2005.shtml for details or register directly online at http://donate.perlfoundation.org/index.pl?node=registrant%20info&conference_id=423 The schedule is awesome - http://yapc.org/America/schedule-2005/day1.html >From here, click on the "Day 2" and "Day 3" spots near the top to go from page to page. Click on a talk name to get details regarding the talk. Speakers include Larry Wall, Allison Randal, Autrijus Tang, Brian Ingerson, Andy Lester, chromatic, brian d foy, Chip Salzenberg & Dan Sugalski... and many more! [ This message was sent by Gerard Lim on behalf of the YAPC::NA 2005 Conference organizing committee of the Toronto Perl Mongers. Thanks for your patience and support. ] From Daniel.Sherer at healthnet.com Wed Jun 29 16:07:36 2005 From: Daniel.Sherer at healthnet.com (Daniel.Sherer@healthnet.com) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:07:36 -0700 Subject: [Thousand-oaks-pm] Two weeks until the next Thousand Oaks PM meeting Message-ID: One of the action items from our last meeting was a request for more reminders of meetings and to get those reminders farther in advance. Paul has advised us that he won't be able to attend. So, is there someone else from Valueclick who can let us in? Or, should we plan to have this meeting elsewhere? Daniel Sherer Manager, ITG Data Warehouse Health Net (818) 676-7592 This message,together with any attachments, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. It may contain information that is confidential and prohibited from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination or copying of this message or any attachment is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the original sender immediately by telephone or by return e-mail and delete this message, along with any attachments, from your computer. Thank you. From paul at pauljacobs.net Wed Jun 29 16:16:23 2005 From: paul at pauljacobs.net (Paul Jacobs) Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:16:23 -0700 Subject: [Thousand-oaks-pm] Two weeks until the next Thousand Oaks PM meeting In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks for bringing it up in advance. If someone else from VC does want to attend, I can let them borrow my access key for the meeting. - Paul "A fool and his freedom are soon parted" -RMS On Jun 29, 2005, at 4:07 PM, Daniel.Sherer at healthnet.com wrote: > > One of the action items from our last meeting was a request for more > reminders of meetings and to get those reminders farther in advance. > > Paul has advised us that he won't be able to attend. So, is there > someone > else from Valueclick who can let us in? Or, should we plan to have > this > meeting elsewhere? > > > > > > > Daniel Sherer > Manager, ITG Data Warehouse > Health Net > (818) 676-7592 > > > > This message,together with any attachments, is > intended only for the use of the individual or entity > to which it is addressed. It may contain information > that is confidential and prohibited from disclosure. > If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that any dissemination or copying of this > message or any attachment is strictly prohibited. If > you have received this message in error, please notify > the original sender immediately by telephone or by > return e-mail and delete this message, along with any > attachments, from your computer. Thank you. > > > _______________________________________________ > Thousand-oaks-pm mailing list > Thousand-oaks-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/thousand-oaks-pm > From Daniel.Sherer at healthnet.com Thu Jun 30 14:29:00 2005 From: Daniel.Sherer at healthnet.com (Daniel.Sherer@healthnet.com) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:29:00 -0700 Subject: [Thousand-oaks-pm] Two weeks until the next Thousand Oaks PM meeting Message-ID: Andrew, No, I don't really have a solution. What I was hoping for was to be able to point the domain over to some excess space on my server by having PM.ORG change their DNS entry. But my server won't allow pointing a third-level domain in that manner. So, I could setup a second level domain, like SOMETHING.org and probably get PM to point to that, but I wanted to kick that around a bit before taking any action. It's not a money issue, the domains are dirt-cheap. But what name should I register? Or, should we find some other way to do it? Daniel Sherer Manager, ITG Data Warehouse Health Net (818) 676-7592 Andrew Woods cc: Subject: Re: [Thousand-oaks-pm] Two weeks until the next Thousand Oaks PM 06/30/2005 02:11 meeting PM Daniel, Is there a server available to develop the TO.pm website on. I've done a little work in my extra time. http://home.earthlink.net/~atwoods1/topm/ Click on the Camel to see a sample inner page. I'll be working on the navigation this week. I'd appreciate your thoughts. My goal is to present it to the group at our next meeting. Thanks, Andrew Daniel.Sherer at healthnet.com wrote: > One of the action items from our last meeting was a request for more > reminders of meetings and to get those reminders farther in advance. > > Paul has advised us that he won't be able to attend. So, is there someone > else from Valueclick who can let us in? Or, should we plan to have this > meeting elsewhere? > > > > > > > Daniel Sherer > Manager, ITG Data Warehouse > Health Net > (818) 676-7592 > > > > This message,together with any attachments, is > intended only for the use of the individual or entity > to which it is addressed. It may contain information > that is confidential and prohibited from disclosure. > If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that any dissemination or copying of this > message or any attachment is strictly prohibited. If > you have received this message in error, please notify > the original sender immediately by telephone or by > return e-mail and delete this message, along with any > attachments, from your computer. Thank you. > > > _______________________________________________ > Thousand-oaks-pm mailing list > Thousand-oaks-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/thousand-oaks-pm > > -- ################################ Andrew Woods Senior Programmer andreww at anides.com 818-889-2348 Telephone 818-706-0125 Fax This message,together with any attachments, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. It may contain information that is confidential and prohibited from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination or copying of this message or any attachment is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the original sender immediately by telephone or by return e-mail and delete this message, along with any attachments, from your computer. Thank you. From pjacobs at valueclick.com Thu Jun 30 14:45:47 2005 From: pjacobs at valueclick.com (Paul Jacobs) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:45:47 -0700 Subject: [Thousand-oaks-pm] Two weeks until the next Thousand Oaks PM meeting Message-ID: <9906CF1545A50A489C7E0A734E43AE982F0F41@vchqex01.wl.corp.valueclick.com> The name doesn't matter. We don't even need a domain name - I think we should continue to use thousand-oaks.pm.org as the primary name we give out. The forwarding burden is on pm.org, whether your server is set up for it or not. You'd just forward to an IP. I've seen tricks with framesets that make it appear to be at the original address, and I have code avaialable to copy, but it doesn't change the url as you click through the site. That would take more programming. On the other hand, you can point such a frameset to a subdirectory of an existing web server rather than it's root. That can be easier to deal with. I'm not sure I understand kind of server setup would not allow something.otherthing.com to be pointed to it but would allow otherthing.com to be pointed to it. It's not particularly important, but I'm curious. - p -----Original Message----- From: thousand-oaks-pm-bounces at pm.org on behalf of Daniel.Sherer at healthnet.com Sent: Thu 6/30/2005 2:29 PM To: Andrew Woods Cc: Thousand-oaks-pm at pm.org Subject: Re: [Thousand-oaks-pm] Two weeks until the next Thousand Oaks PM meeting Andrew, No, I don't really have a solution. What I was hoping for was to be able to point the domain over to some excess space on my server by having PM.ORG change their DNS entry. But my server won't allow pointing a third-level domain in that manner. So, I could setup a second level domain, like SOMETHING.org and probably get PM to point to that, but I wanted to kick that around a bit before taking any action. It's not a money issue, the domains are dirt-cheap. But what name should I register? Or, should we find some other way to do it? Daniel Sherer Manager, ITG Data Warehouse Health Net (818) 676-7592 Andrew Woods cc: Subject: Re: [Thousand-oaks-pm] Two weeks until the next Thousand Oaks PM 06/30/2005 02:11 meeting PM Daniel, Is there a server available to develop the TO.pm website on. I've done a little work in my extra time. http://home.earthlink.net/~atwoods1/topm/ Click on the Camel to see a sample inner page. I'll be working on the navigation this week. I'd appreciate your thoughts. My goal is to present it to the group at our next meeting. Thanks, Andrew Daniel.Sherer at healthnet.com wrote: > One of the action items from our last meeting was a request for more > reminders of meetings and to get those reminders farther in advance. > > Paul has advised us that he won't be able to attend. So, is there someone > else from Valueclick who can let us in? Or, should we plan to have this > meeting elsewhere? > > > > > > > Daniel Sherer > Manager, ITG Data Warehouse > Health Net > (818) 676-7592 > > > > This message,together with any attachments, is > intended only for the use of the individual or entity > to which it is addressed. It may contain information > that is confidential and prohibited from disclosure. > If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that any dissemination or copying of this > message or any attachment is strictly prohibited. If > you have received this message in error, please notify > the original sender immediately by telephone or by > return e-mail and delete this message, along with any > attachments, from your computer. Thank you. > > > _______________________________________________ > Thousand-oaks-pm mailing list > Thousand-oaks-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/thousand-oaks-pm > > -- ################################ Andrew Woods Senior Programmer andreww at anides.com 818-889-2348 Telephone 818-706-0125 Fax This message,together with any attachments, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. It may contain information that is confidential and prohibited from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination or copying of this message or any attachment is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the original sender immediately by telephone or by return e-mail and delete this message, along with any attachments, from your computer. Thank you. _______________________________________________ Thousand-oaks-pm mailing list Thousand-oaks-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/thousand-oaks-pm From Daniel.Sherer at healthnet.com Thu Jun 30 14:56:02 2005 From: Daniel.Sherer at healthnet.com (Daniel.Sherer@healthnet.com) Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:56:02 -0700 Subject: [Thousand-oaks-pm] Two weeks until the next Thousand Oaks PM meeting Message-ID: Paul, I was trying to set it up as another sub-domain under my account at 1and1.com. I can have (and do have) other sites which have their DNS entries elsewhere, but server space on 1and1. The problem came when I went into the setup to configure it. It wouldn't let me associate a third-level domain. Just pointing the PM.org name entry to my IP address (without config entries) probably would be a bad idea. There could potentially be hundreds of other websites sharing the same IP address. Daniel Sherer Manager, ITG Data Warehouse Health Net (818) 676-7592 Paul Jacobs ck.com> cc: Thousand-oaks-pm at pm.org Subject: RE: [Thousand-oaks-pm] Two weeks until the next Thousand Oaks PM 06/30/2005 02:45 meeting PM The name doesn't matter. We don't even need a domain name - I think we should continue to use thousand-oaks.pm.org as the primary name we give out. The forwarding burden is on pm.org, whether your server is set up for it or not. You'd just forward to an IP. I've seen tricks with framesets that make it appear to be at the original address, and I have code avaialable to copy, but it doesn't change the url as you click through the site. That would take more programming. On the other hand, you can point such a frameset to a subdirectory of an existing web server rather than it's root. That can be easier to deal with. I'm not sure I understand kind of server setup would not allow something.otherthing.com to be pointed to it but would allow otherthing.com to be pointed to it. It's not particularly important, but I'm curious. - p -----Original Message----- From: thousand-oaks-pm-bounces at pm.org on behalf of Daniel.Sherer at healthnet.com Sent: Thu 6/30/2005 2:29 PM To: Andrew Woods Cc: Thousand-oaks-pm at pm.org Subject: Re: [Thousand-oaks-pm] Two weeks until the next Thousand Oaks PM meeting Andrew, No, I don't really have a solution. What I was hoping for was to be able to point the domain over to some excess space on my server by having PM.ORG change their DNS entry. But my server won't allow pointing a third-level domain in that manner. So, I could setup a second level domain, like SOMETHING.org and probably get PM to point to that, but I wanted to kick that around a bit before taking any action. It's not a money issue, the domains are dirt-cheap. But what name should I register? Or, should we find some other way to do it? Daniel Sherer Manager, ITG Data Warehouse Health Net (818) 676-7592 Andrew Woods cc: Subject: Re: [Thousand-oaks-pm] Two weeks until the next Thousand Oaks PM 06/30/2005 02:11 meeting PM Daniel, Is there a server available to develop the TO.pm website on. I've done a little work in my extra time. http://home.earthlink.net/~atwoods1/topm/ Click on the Camel to see a sample inner page. I'll be working on the navigation this week. I'd appreciate your thoughts. My goal is to present it to the group at our next meeting. Thanks, Andrew Daniel.Sherer at healthnet.com wrote: > One of the action items from our last meeting was a request for more > reminders of meetings and to get those reminders farther in advance. > > Paul has advised us that he won't be able to attend. So, is there someone > else from Valueclick who can let us in? Or, should we plan to have this > meeting elsewhere? > > > > > > > Daniel Sherer > Manager, ITG Data Warehouse > Health Net > (818) 676-7592 > > > > This message,together with any attachments, is > intended only for the use of the individual or entity > to which it is addressed. It may contain information > that is confidential and prohibited from disclosure. > If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that any dissemination or copying of this > message or any attachment is strictly prohibited. If > you have received this message in error, please notify > the original sender immediately by telephone or by > return e-mail and delete this message, along with any > attachments, from your computer. Thank you. > > > _______________________________________________ > Thousand-oaks-pm mailing list > Thousand-oaks-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/thousand-oaks-pm > > -- ################################ Andrew Woods Senior Programmer andreww at anides.com 818-889-2348 Telephone 818-706-0125 Fax This message,together with any attachments, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. It may contain information that is confidential and prohibited from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination or copying of this message or any attachment is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the original sender immediately by telephone or by return e-mail and delete this message, along with any attachments, from your computer. Thank you. _______________________________________________ Thousand-oaks-pm mailing list Thousand-oaks-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/thousand-oaks-pm This message,together with any attachments, is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. It may contain information that is confidential and prohibited from disclosure. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination or copying of this message or any attachment is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the original sender immediately by telephone or by return e-mail and delete this message, along with any attachments, from your computer. Thank you.