From brent.fulgham at xpsystems.com Mon Aug 7 13:05:49 2000 From: brent.fulgham at xpsystems.com (Brent Fulgham) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: A compromise? Message-ID: So does anyone one to meet for lunch tomorrow? > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan.Sherer@wellpoint.com [mailto:Dan.Sherer@wellpoint.com] > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 2:44 PM > To: thousand-oaks-pm-list@pm.org > Subject: A compromise? > > > By coincidence, I'm planning on eating lunch on both Tuesday > AND Wednesday of > next week. ;-) > > > Maybe we'll just meet on whichever day is more workable for > each individual > member. > > > Just a thought. > > > Daniel > From ask at valueclick.com Mon Aug 7 14:35:51 2000 From: ask at valueclick.com (Ask Bjoern Hansen) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: A compromise? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Brent Fulgham wrote: Sure. Where at? 1pm? - ask > So does anyone one to meet for lunch tomorrow? > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dan.Sherer@wellpoint.com [mailto:Dan.Sherer@wellpoint.com] > > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 2:44 PM > > To: thousand-oaks-pm-list@pm.org > > Subject: A compromise? > > > > > > By coincidence, I'm planning on eating lunch on both Tuesday > > AND Wednesday of > > next week. ;-) > > > > > > Maybe we'll just meet on whichever day is more workable for > > each individual > > member. > > > > > > Just a thought. > > > > > > Daniel > > > -- ask bjoern hansen - more than 70M impressions per day, From brent.fulgham at xpsystems.com Mon Aug 7 14:41:51 2000 From: brent.fulgham at xpsystems.com (Brent Fulgham) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: A compromise? Message-ID: 1pm is fine with me. I don't really care where -- although something near Highway 23 is easiest for me to get to. I have successfully made it to and from that Westlake Village strip-mall area with the California Pizza Kitchen (etc) in a reasonable amount of time. Is something in that area okay? > -----Original Message----- > From: Ask Bjoern Hansen [mailto:ask@valueclick.com] > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 12:36 PM > To: Brent Fulgham > Cc: Dan.Sherer@wellpoint.com; thousand-oaks-pm-list@pm.org > Subject: RE: A compromise? > > > On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Brent Fulgham wrote: > > Sure. Where at? 1pm? > > - ask > > > So does anyone one to meet for lunch tomorrow? > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Dan.Sherer@wellpoint.com [mailto:Dan.Sherer@wellpoint.com] > > > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 2:44 PM > > > To: thousand-oaks-pm-list@pm.org > > > Subject: A compromise? > > > > > > > > > By coincidence, I'm planning on eating lunch on both Tuesday > > > AND Wednesday of > > > next week. ;-) > > > > > > > > > Maybe we'll just meet on whichever day is more workable for > > > each individual > > > member. > > > > > > > > > Just a thought. > > > > > > > > > Daniel > > > > > > > -- > ask bjoern hansen - > more than 70M impressions per day, > From Dan.Sherer at wellpoint.com Mon Aug 7 14:49:00 2000 From: Dan.Sherer at wellpoint.com (Dan.Sherer@wellpoint.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: A compromise? Message-ID: How about Roxy's Famous Deli? It's very close to where the 23 and T.O. cross. Daniel ------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )--------------------- Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:41:51 -0700 To: ask@valueclick.com Cc: thousand-oaks-pm-list@pm.org From: brent.fulgham@xpsystems.com Sender: owner-thousand-oaks-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org Subject: RE: A compromise? 1pm is fine with me. I don't really care where -- although something near Highway 23 is easiest for me to get to. I have successfully made it to and from that Westlake Village strip-mall area with the California Pizza Kitchen (etc) in a reasonable amount of time. Is something in that area okay? > -----Original Message----- > From: Ask Bjoern Hansen [mailto:ask@valueclick.com] > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 12:36 PM > To: Brent Fulgham > Cc: Dan.Sherer@wellpoint.com; thousand-oaks-pm-list@pm.org > Subject: RE: A compromise? > > > On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Brent Fulgham wrote: > > Sure. Where at? 1pm? > > - ask > > > So does anyone one to meet for lunch tomorrow? > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Dan.Sherer@wellpoint.com [mailto:Dan.Sherer@wellpoint.com] > > > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 2:44 PM > > > To: thousand-oaks-pm-list@pm.org > > > Subject: A compromise? > > > > > > > > > By coincidence, I'm planning on eating lunch on both Tuesday > > > AND Wednesday of > > > next week. ;-) > > > > > > > > > Maybe we'll just meet on whichever day is more workable for > > > each individual > > > member. > > > > > > > > > Just a thought. > > > > > > > > > Daniel > > > > > > > -- > ask bjoern hansen - > more than 70M impressions per day, > From jbh at 3dlci138-2.icsfm.com Mon Aug 7 16:13:01 2000 From: jbh at 3dlci138-2.icsfm.com (John Herbert) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: A compromise? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I could easily be mistaken, but I suspect he meant 23-South, as in Westlake Blvd (and Dekker Rd). To speed things, here's what I could come up with off the top of my head (looking North): Oaktree West | -----------------------+----------------------------- T.O. Blvd (Italian) | California Pizza Kitchen Appleby's | Macaroni Grill | Chili's | Marmalade Cafe | (Italian) | -----------------------+----------------------------- US 101 | -----------------------+----------------------------- Townsgate Rd Carl's Jr. | Jack's Deli Cisco's Mexican | Tuscany's Annex? (Italian) | (Argentinian) Johnny P's (BBQ) | | Hampshire Rd ----------+----------------------------- Agoura Rd | | Westlake Blvd (South CA 23) Where I couldn't remember a name I put the type in (), and I'm sure I'm missing a few completely. If some names have changed in the past couple of years I may not have reflected that as my already pitiful social life vanished when I started my own company. I'll be out of town so I won't be able to attend. I'll catch you next time. - John On Mon, 7 Aug 2000 Dan.Sherer@wellpoint.com wrote: > How about Roxy's Famous Deli? It's very close to where the 23 and T.O. cross. > > Daniel > ------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )--------------------- > Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2000 12:41:51 -0700 > To: ask@valueclick.com > Cc: thousand-oaks-pm-list@pm.org > From: brent.fulgham@xpsystems.com > Sender: owner-thousand-oaks-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org > Subject: RE: A compromise? > > 1pm is fine with me. I don't really care where -- although > something near Highway 23 is easiest for me to get to. I > have successfully made it to and from that Westlake Village > strip-mall area with the California Pizza Kitchen (etc) in > a reasonable amount of time. > > Is something in that area okay? > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ask Bjoern Hansen [mailto:ask@valueclick.com] > > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 12:36 PM > > To: Brent Fulgham > > Cc: Dan.Sherer@wellpoint.com; thousand-oaks-pm-list@pm.org > > Subject: RE: A compromise? > > > > > > On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Brent Fulgham wrote: > > > > Sure. Where at? 1pm? > > > > - ask > > > > > So does anyone one to meet for lunch tomorrow? > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Dan.Sherer@wellpoint.com [mailto:Dan.Sherer@wellpoint.com] > > > > Sent: Monday, July 31, 2000 2:44 PM > > > > To: thousand-oaks-pm-list@pm.org > > > > Subject: A compromise? > > > > > > > > > > > > By coincidence, I'm planning on eating lunch on both Tuesday > > > > AND Wednesday of > > > > next week. ;-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe we'll just meet on whichever day is more workable for > > > > each individual > > > > member. > > > > > > > > > > > > Just a thought. > > > > > > > > > > > > Daniel > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ask bjoern hansen - > > more than 70M impressions per day, > > > > -- John Herbert Habanero Technologies, LLC E-Mail: jbh@ftel.net Phone: (805) 279-8891 From brent.fulgham at xpsystems.com Mon Aug 7 16:20:25 2000 From: brent.fulgham at xpsystems.com (Brent Fulgham) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: A compromise? Message-ID: Whoops! My mistake -- I am actually coming from Moorpark, so based on the map below I'm coming from the opposite direction. I would be taking the 101 from left-to-right on this page. > Oaktree West | > -----------------------+----------------------------- T.O. Blvd > [Piati's] | California Pizza Kitchen > Appleby's | Macaroni Grill > | Chili's > | Marmalade Cafe > | [Stix Chinese] > | (Italian) > | > -----------------------+----------------------------- US 101 > | > -----------------------+----------------------------- Townsgate Rd > Carl's Jr. | Jack's Deli > Cisco's Mexican | Tuscany's Annex? > (Italian) | (Argentinian) > Johnny P's (BBQ) | > | > Hampshire Rd ----------+----------------------------- Agoura Rd > | > | > Westlake Blvd (South CA 23) > Daniel: > How about Roxy's Famous Deli? It's very close to where the > 23 and T.O. cross. This would be fine with me. I'll need semi-precise directions to get there, but I guess MapQuest is always available. :-) -Brent From jbh at 3dlci138-2.icsfm.com Mon Aug 7 17:06:54 2000 From: jbh at 3dlci138-2.icsfm.com (John Herbert) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: A compromise? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Brent Fulgham wrote: > Whoops! My mistake -- I am actually coming from Moorpark, > so based on the map below I'm coming from the opposite > direction. I would be taking the 101 from left-to-right > on this page. Oh, so you did mean the 23 Freeway, sorry, _my_ mistake. Roxy's is easy from the southbound 23 Freeway if you take the Hillcrest/T.O.Blvd exit, go straight across Hillcrest Dr, turn left onto T.O. Blvd, cross Rancho Rd, and Roxy's is on your left. If you are taking the 101 (either direction), the Rancho Rd exit is always less than 1/10 of a mile after the northbound 23 Freeway exit. Go down the exit ramp, then turn north on Rancho Rd, turn right at the first traffic light (T.O. Blvd), and Roxy's is on your left. There are also a bunch of restaurants at the 23 Freeway and Avenida de Los Arboles (go east to the first traffic light), behind the DMV office on the right. Anyone know what's back there these days? > > Oaktree West | > > -----------------------+----------------------------- T.O. Blvd > > [Piati's] | California Pizza Kitchen > > Appleby's | Macaroni Grill > > | Chili's > > | Marmalade Cafe > > | [Stix Chinese] > > | (Italian) > > | > > -----------------------+----------------------------- US 101 > > | > > -----------------------+----------------------------- Townsgate Rd > > Carl's Jr. | Jack's Deli > > Cisco's Mexican | Tuscany's Annex? > > (Italian) | (Argentinian) > > Johnny P's (BBQ) | > > | > > Hampshire Rd ----------+----------------------------- Agoura Rd > > | > > | > > Westlake Blvd (South CA 23) > > > > Daniel: > > How about Roxy's Famous Deli? It's very close to where the > > 23 and T.O. cross. > > This would be fine with me. I'll need semi-precise directions > to get there, but I guess MapQuest is always available. :-) > > -Brent -- John Herbert Habanero Technologies, LLC E-Mail: jbh@ftel.net Phone: (805) 279-8891 From markwild at markwild.com Mon Aug 7 18:00:33 2000 From: markwild at markwild.com (Mark Widawer) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: A compromise? References: Message-ID: <001f01c000c3$4cfac720$3400010a@totalfunding.com> All, Since Tuesday is not the only day that we will all eat lunch, and no one has a severe preference or disdain for any particular establishment, let's just meet at Roxy's at 1pm on Tuesday. Then, we can spend the entire hour debating where we'll all eat next. Cool? Way! --Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Herbert" To: Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 3:06 PM Subject: RE: A compromise? > On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Brent Fulgham wrote: > > > Whoops! My mistake -- I am actually coming from Moorpark, > > so based on the map below I'm coming from the opposite > > direction. I would be taking the 101 from left-to-right > > on this page. > > Oh, so you did mean the 23 Freeway, sorry, _my_ mistake. > > Roxy's is easy from the southbound 23 Freeway if you take the > Hillcrest/T.O.Blvd exit, go straight across Hillcrest Dr, turn left > onto T.O. Blvd, cross Rancho Rd, and Roxy's is on your left. > > If you are taking the 101 (either direction), the Rancho Rd exit > is always less than 1/10 of a mile after the northbound 23 Freeway > exit. Go down the exit ramp, then turn north on Rancho Rd, turn > right at the first traffic light (T.O. Blvd), and Roxy's is on > your left. > > There are also a bunch of restaurants at the 23 Freeway and Avenida > de Los Arboles (go east to the first traffic light), behind the > DMV office on the right. Anyone know what's back there these days? > > > > Oaktree West | > > > -----------------------+----------------------------- T.O. Blvd > > > [Piati's] | California Pizza Kitchen > > > Appleby's | Macaroni Grill > > > | Chili's > > > | Marmalade Cafe > > > | [Stix Chinese] > > > | (Italian) > > > | > > > -----------------------+----------------------------- US 101 > > > | > > > -----------------------+----------------------------- Townsgate Rd > > > Carl's Jr. | Jack's Deli > > > Cisco's Mexican | Tuscany's Annex? > > > (Italian) | (Argentinian) > > > Johnny P's (BBQ) | > > > | > > > Hampshire Rd ----------+----------------------------- Agoura Rd > > > | > > > | > > > Westlake Blvd (South CA 23) > > > > > > > Daniel: > > > How about Roxy's Famous Deli? It's very close to where the > > > 23 and T.O. cross. > > > > This would be fine with me. I'll need semi-precise directions > > to get there, but I guess MapQuest is always available. :-) > > > > -Brent > > -- > John Herbert Habanero Technologies, LLC > E-Mail: jbh@ftel.net Phone: (805) 279-8891 From brent.fulgham at xpsystems.com Mon Aug 7 18:17:18 2000 From: brent.fulgham at xpsystems.com (Brent Fulgham) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: A compromise? Message-ID: Great -- Roxy's sounds fine to me. -Brent > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Widawer [mailto:markwild@markwild.com] > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 4:01 PM > To: thousand-oaks-pm-list@pm.org > Subject: Re: A compromise? > > > All, > Since Tuesday is not the only day that we will all eat lunch, > and no one has > a severe preference or disdain for any particular > establishment, let's just > meet at Roxy's at 1pm on Tuesday. > Then, we can spend the entire hour debating where we'll all eat next. > Cool? Way! > --Mark > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Herbert" > To: > Sent: Monday, August 07, 2000 3:06 PM > Subject: RE: A compromise? > > > > On Mon, 7 Aug 2000, Brent Fulgham wrote: > > > > > Whoops! My mistake -- I am actually coming from Moorpark, > > > so based on the map below I'm coming from the opposite > > > direction. I would be taking the 101 from left-to-right > > > on this page. > > > > Oh, so you did mean the 23 Freeway, sorry, _my_ mistake. > > > > Roxy's is easy from the southbound 23 Freeway if you take the > > Hillcrest/T.O.Blvd exit, go straight across Hillcrest Dr, turn left > > onto T.O. Blvd, cross Rancho Rd, and Roxy's is on your left. > > > > If you are taking the 101 (either direction), the Rancho Rd exit > > is always less than 1/10 of a mile after the northbound 23 Freeway > > exit. Go down the exit ramp, then turn north on Rancho Rd, turn > > right at the first traffic light (T.O. Blvd), and Roxy's is on > > your left. > > > > There are also a bunch of restaurants at the 23 Freeway and Avenida > > de Los Arboles (go east to the first traffic light), behind the > > DMV office on the right. Anyone know what's back there these days? > > > > > > Oaktree West | > > > > -----------------------+----------------------------- T.O. Blvd > > > > [Piati's] | California Pizza Kitchen > > > > Appleby's | Macaroni Grill > > > > | Chili's > > > > | Marmalade Cafe > > > > | [Stix Chinese] > > > > | (Italian) > > > > | > > > > -----------------------+----------------------------- US 101 > > > > | > > > > -----------------------+----------------------------- > Townsgate Rd > > > > Carl's Jr. | Jack's Deli > > > > Cisco's Mexican | Tuscany's Annex? > > > > (Italian) | (Argentinian) > > > > Johnny P's (BBQ) | > > > > | > > > > Hampshire Rd ----------+----------------------------- Agoura Rd > > > > | > > > > | > > > > Westlake Blvd (South CA 23) > > > > > > > > > > Daniel: > > > > How about Roxy's Famous Deli? It's very close to where the > > > > 23 and T.O. cross. > > > > > > This would be fine with me. I'll need semi-precise directions > > > to get there, but I guess MapQuest is always available. :-) > > > > > > -Brent > > > > -- > > John Herbert Habanero Technologies, LLC > > E-Mail: jbh@ftel.net Phone: (805) 279-8891 > From Dan.Sherer at wellpoint.com Tue Aug 8 10:37:00 2000 From: Dan.Sherer at wellpoint.com (Dan.Sherer@wellpoint.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: Perl Monger's lunch Message-ID: Ok, I'll see you all at Roxy's, 1:00pm today. I'll be the one with the black "Perl Monger" t-shirt. I'll grab a table for 6, I guess. We'll see how it goes from there. Daniel From ask at valueclick.com Tue Aug 8 12:36:12 2000 From: ask at valueclick.com (Ask Bjoern Hansen) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: Perl Monger's lunch In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 8 Aug 2000 Dan.Sherer@wellpoint.com wrote: > Ok, I'll see you all at Roxy's, 1:00pm today. uhmn, I lost the directions .... :) -- ask bjoern hansen - more than 70M impressions per day, From brent.fulgham at xpsystems.com Tue Aug 8 12:48:07 2000 From: brent.fulgham at xpsystems.com (Brent Fulgham) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: A compromise? Message-ID: > > Ok, I'll see you all at Roxy's, 1:00pm today. > > uhmn, I lost the directions .... > > :) > Here's what John said: > Roxy's is easy from the southbound 23 Freeway if you take the > Hillcrest/T.O.Blvd exit, go straight across Hillcrest Dr, turn left > onto T.O. Blvd, cross Rancho Rd, and Roxy's is on your left. > > If you are taking the 101 (either direction), the Rancho Rd exit > is always less than 1/10 of a mile after the northbound 23 Freeway > exit. Go down the exit ramp, then turn north on Rancho Rd, turn > right at the first traffic light (T.O. Blvd), and Roxy's is on > your left. > See you guys at 1! -Brent From Dan.Sherer at wellpoint.com Tue Aug 8 12:48:00 2000 From: Dan.Sherer at wellpoint.com (Dan.Sherer@wellpoint.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: Perl Monger's lunch Message-ID: according to mapquest, Roxy's is located at: 1345 E Thousand Oaks Blvd, Thousand Oaks, CA Attached is a map. Daniel ------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )--------------------- Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2000 10:36:12 -0700 (PDT) To: Dan.Sherer Cc: thousand-oaks-pm-list@pm.org From: ask@valueclick.com Subject: Re: Perl Monger's lunch On Tue, 8 Aug 2000 Dan.Sherer@wellpoint.com wrote: > Ok, I'll see you all at Roxy's, 1:00pm today. uhmn, I lost the directions .... :) -- ask bjoern hansen - more than 70M impressions per day, -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: roxy.gif Type: application/octet-stream Size: 12404 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/archives/thousand-oaks-pm/attachments/20000808/8e1d1b2c/roxy.obj From ask at valueclick.com Tue Aug 8 18:04:21 2000 From: ask at valueclick.com (Ask Bjoern Hansen) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: Perl Monger's lunch In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 8 Aug 2000 Dan.Sherer@wellpoint.com wrote: > according to mapquest, Roxy's is located at: > > 1345 E Thousand Oaks Blvd, Thousand Oaks, CA > > Attached is a map. geeez, I got stuck in some urgent issues so I couldn't make it. I'll try again next time. At least two of the other programmers here would also love to go (but were in meetings today). Ssooooooo, let's try soon again! :) - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - more than 70M impressions per day, From Dan.Sherer at wellpoint.com Tue Aug 8 18:24:00 2000 From: Dan.Sherer at wellpoint.com (Dan.Sherer@wellpoint.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: Nice Lunch Message-ID: Hey everybody, I enjoyed lunch today and meeting those of you who were able to attend. There was Mark, Brent, Gary, Jerry and myself. We each discussed our work environment, how long we've been using Perl and some of the things we hope to accomplish through this group. We planned to do some rotating book reviews. *** I have a copy of O'Reilly's new "Perl for system administrators" coming. I think this one has more of a Unix focus, so perhaps Brent would like to take a crack at it??? (I'm also very active on Unix, but there may be some other members who want this one) *** The reviewer gets to keep the book. I told the members that I get a steady stream of job offers and requests to post jobs. We decided we'd set a section up on our website for this and offer it to recruiters in exchange for sponsoring our meetings. We'll have to mull this over a bit, but we may be able to work it out. Mark brought a programming example (a search engine that he is implementing on one of his websites) and posed a question about scope of variables. This format seemed to work well for us (or at least for those present) and we agreed we'd like to meet again over lunch. Thanks, Daniel From brent.fulgham at xpsystems.com Tue Aug 8 18:40:40 2000 From: brent.fulgham at xpsystems.com (Brent Fulgham) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: Nice Lunch Message-ID: > We planned to do some rotating book reviews. *** I have a > copy of O'Reilly's new "Perl for system administrators" > coming. I think this one has more of a Unix focus, so > perhaps Brent would like to take a crack at it??? (I'm also > very active on Unix, but there may be some other members who > want this one) *** The reviewer gets to keep the book. > Well, sure! I also use Perl a lot for my work on the Debian GNU/Linux project (I didn't get into that at lunch since there was so much other ground to cover), so it might be pretty interesting. However, I'll be working through Damian Conway's "Object Oriented Programming with Perl" for another week or two at least, so if someone's looking for reading material they might want to jump on it first. I'll be happy to give a review of "OOPw/P", too/instead, if anyone's interested. Thanks, -Brent From markwild at markwild.com Wed Aug 9 14:00:53 2000 From: markwild at markwild.com (Mark Widawer) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: Server utilization Message-ID: <005101c00234$264e6240$3400010a@totalfunding.com> Hi guys. Haven't tried the regex mods you suggested at lunch yet, but I likely will tonight. I want to monitor the load on my *nix web server. I know I can watch the numbers with top, but I'd like to have the server record them so I can graph them later. I'm sure there is a way to do this already. Anyone know? I'm less interested in how many hits as I am with utilization percentages and idle time. (In other words, I don't want to parse the logs!) --Mark -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/archives/thousand-oaks-pm/attachments/20000809/441d1454/attachment.htm From gansok at digisle.net Wed Aug 9 15:29:45 2000 From: gansok at digisle.net (Gary Ansok) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: Server utilization References: <005101c00234$264e6240$3400010a@totalfunding.com> Message-ID: <3991BF39.2CDBBB6@digisle.net> > Mark Widawer wrote: > Haven't tried the regex mods you suggested at lunch yet, but I likely > will tonight. A better solution may be to store your substitution strings in a single hash rather than in separate variables. my %subs = (var1 => 'value1', var2 => 'value2'); s/%%(\w+)%%/$subs{$1}/g; I think this is actually the "recommended" way. It works fine whether the hash is "my" or global. I have a recollection that using the symbolic references can also be dangerous if your input is coming from untrusted sources (perhaps not in this simple case), whereas the hash is safer. > I want to monitor the load on my *nix web server. I know I can watch > the numbers with top, but I'd like to have the server record them so I > can graph them later. I'm sure there is a way to do this already. I don't know of anything better than just running top (or some other program that has the info you need) and parsing the output. "top" has a batch mode where it will just print the info once and exit. Sounds like a good candidate for a module! -- Gary From ask at valueclick.com Thu Aug 17 15:23:30 2000 From: ask at valueclick.com (Ask Bjoern Hansen) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: food. Message-ID: don't you guys ever eat? How about lunch the 29th? - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - more than 70M impressions per day, From jbh at 3dlci138-2.icsfm.com Thu Aug 17 15:41:11 2000 From: jbh at 3dlci138-2.icsfm.com (John Herbert) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: food. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: > don't you guys ever eat? > > How about lunch the 29th? > > - ask Yeah, I call this the Perl Mongers Diet: one meal every three weeks (whether I'm hungry or not :-). I should be able to protect the 29th. - John From brent.fulgham at xpsystems.com Thu Aug 17 16:06:17 2000 From: brent.fulgham at xpsystems.com (Brent Fulgham) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: food. Message-ID: No way Ask -- You're not going to fool me twice!!! ;-) Seriously, the 29th sounds fine to me. -Brent > -----Original Message----- > From: Ask Bjoern Hansen [mailto:ask@valueclick.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 1:24 PM > To: thousand-oaks-pm-list@pm.org > Subject: food. > > > > don't you guys ever eat? > > How about lunch the 29th? > > > - ask > > -- > ask bjoern hansen - > more than 70M impressions per day, > From ask at valueclick.com Thu Aug 17 16:30:01 2000 From: ask at valueclick.com (Ask Bjoern Hansen) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: food. In-Reply-To: <20000817204527.28253.qmail@web125.yahoomail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, 17 Aug 2000, Daniel Sherer wrote: > > --- Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: > > > > don't you guys ever eat? > > > > How about lunch the 29th? > > Cool. Name the place. My suggestions would just be from the lists you and Brent have sent me. ;-) > You gonna come to this one? ;-) yup, that was the idea. :) you should put a note on the webpage about the last lunch and the next one so people browsing by can see how active we are. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - more than 70M impressions per day, From mark at markwild.com Thu Aug 17 19:17:48 2000 From: mark at markwild.com (Mark Widawer) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: food. References: Message-ID: <001801c008a9$be504240$0301010a@widawer> In the immortal words of Michael Jackson. . . . " I'll be there. . . " --Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: Ask Bjoern Hansen To: Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2000 1:23 PM Subject: food. > > don't you guys ever eat? > > How about lunch the 29th? > > > - ask > > -- > ask bjoern hansen - > more than 70M impressions per day, From mark at markwild.com Fri Aug 25 00:02:18 2000 From: mark at markwild.com (Mark Widawer) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: LWP and DICE Message-ID: <003801c00e51$a5c27ba0$0301010a@widawer> Hello all. Another perl puzzler for us. I want to write a script that automatically queries Dice.com. Of course, the right way to do that is with LWP. And, of course, there is more than one way to do it. I think I've found a method that is on the path to working, but haven't even been able to query the site successfully yet. Here's the nitty gritty. If you look at the source for the dice query form, you'll see that it is making a POST request. The method and variables are pretty clear. If you do the query from your browser, you'll see a URL for (what looks like) a GET request. That URL seems to have a session id in it. It looks like this: http://jobsearch.dice.com/jobsearch/jobresults.cgi?sr=1&hp=25&cf=1e.32836500&brief=0&banner=1 If you monkey with some of the parameters, you can modify the way the listing appears. If I send that particular GET request via my script, I get the correct search results HTML page. However, that URL becomes invalid by the next day (and probably sooner). So what (I think) I need to do is make the original POST and then allow LWP to be redirected to the GET URL. The search form I am trying to emulate (simplified from the original at dice.com) is this: --------------------
-------------------- Save that form as an HTML file and load it into your browser and it works as expected. What I think is happening in the browser is that the script executed by the POST returns a redirect to a page that uses the GET. If any one has an alternate idea of what is going on, and how to make it work, I'm all ears. I've written code (adapted from the LWP docs) that does the post, which follows: ----------------- use HTTP::Request::Common qw(POST); use LWP::UserAgent; $ua=LWP::UserAgent->new(); my $req = POST 'http://jobsearch.dice.com/jobsearch/jobresults.cgi' , [ query => 'perl', method => 'and', banner => 1, num_to_retrieve => 250, num_per_page => 10, submit => 'Search' ]; my $content = $ua->request($req)->as_string; print $content; ----------------- The content that I get back from this request is: ---------------- HTTP/1.1 302 Found Connection: close Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 04:24:31 GMT Location: http://www.dice.com/jobsearch/index.html Server: Apache/1.3.11 (Unix) Content-Type: text/html Client-Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 04:21:06 GMT Client-Peer: 208.128.117.192:80 Title: 302 Found 302 Found

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---------------- I figured that I would get a redirect in the HTTP header, but no such luck. If one were sent, I could parse the header for the redirect string, and then do a second LWP request to that URL. One last comment: When I've substituted other URLs into this same Perl script, I get back the content that I expect. Anyway, I've blabbed enough here. If anyone has any ideas about what it will take to make this work, I'm all ears. Thanks in advance for your help. --Mark Widawer -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/archives/thousand-oaks-pm/attachments/20000824/0bf56c10/attachment.htm From ask at valueclick.com Fri Aug 25 18:38:09 2000 From: ask at valueclick.com (Ask Bjoern Hansen) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: lunch tuesday? Message-ID: Hi PM'ers, are we still up for lunch tuesday? - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - more than 70M impressions per day, From Dan.Sherer at wellpoint.com Mon Aug 28 09:15:00 2000 From: Dan.Sherer at wellpoint.com (Dan.Sherer@wellpoint.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: lunch tuesday? Message-ID: Yeah, Let's do it. Let's do this one at Roxy's (like the previous time). I didn't hear any complaints about the food or service. Plus, this way, we don't have to go through all the confusion with directions. See you there at 1:00 Daniel ------------------( Forwarded letter 1 follows )--------------------- Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2000 16:38:09 -0700 (PDT) To: thousand-oaks-pm-list@pm.org From: ask@valueclick.com Sender: owner-thousand-oaks-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org Subject: lunch tuesday? Hi PM'ers, are we still up for lunch tuesday? - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - more than 70M impressions per day, From brent.fulgham at xpsystems.com Tue Aug 29 12:41:03 2000 From: brent.fulgham at xpsystems.com (Brent Fulgham) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: lunch tuesday? Message-ID: > > > > are we still up for lunch tuesday? > > > Yeah, Let's do it. > > Let's do this one at Roxy's (like the previous time). I > didn't hear any > complaints about the food or service. Plus, this way, we > don't have to go > through all the confusion with directions. > > See you there at 1:00 > Okay guys, it's 10:40. Is everyone still planning on coming? :-) -Brent From ask at valueclick.com Tue Aug 29 13:03:35 2000 From: ask at valueclick.com (Ask Bjoern Hansen) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: lunch tuesday? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Brent Fulgham wrote: > > > are we still up for lunch tuesday? > > > > > Yeah, Let's do it. > > > > Let's do this one at Roxy's (like the previous time). I > > didn't hear any > > complaints about the food or service. Plus, this way, we > > don't have to go > > through all the confusion with directions. > > > > See you there at 1:00 > > > Okay guys, it's 10:40. Is everyone still planning > on coming? :-) yup. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - more than 70M impressions per day, From jbh at 3dlci138-2.icsfm.com Tue Aug 29 13:17:12 2000 From: jbh at 3dlci138-2.icsfm.com (John Herbert) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: lunch tuesday? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Me too. - John On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Ask Bjoern Hansen wrote: > On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Brent Fulgham wrote: > > > > > are we still up for lunch tuesday? > > > > > > > Yeah, Let's do it. > > > > > > Let's do this one at Roxy's (like the previous time). I > > > didn't hear any > > > complaints about the food or service. Plus, this way, we > > > don't have to go > > > through all the confusion with directions. > > > > > > See you there at 1:00 > > > > > Okay guys, it's 10:40. Is everyone still planning > > on coming? :-) > > yup. > > - ask From gansok at digisle.net Tue Aug 29 13:26:23 2000 From: gansok at digisle.net (Gary Ansok) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: lunch tuesday? References: Message-ID: <39AC004F.DC08F033@digisle.net> I'll be there! -- Gary From Dan.Sherer at wellpoint.com Tue Aug 29 16:51:00 2000 From: Dan.Sherer at wellpoint.com (Dan.Sherer@wellpoint.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: Lunch report Message-ID: Great lunch, thanks to all who showed-up (Brent, John, Gary, Ask, Mark, Jerry and myself). Interesting discussion: map/code-readability, perl as a mainframe replacement, UTICA?, and advanced code examples. (Mark, what was the URL to that website? I tried www.stonehenge.com, but it wasn't working.) Also, as I said, O'Reilly is offering us a 20% discount on their "University of Perl 2000" (to be held in L.A. Oct. 5 & 6). See http://conferences.oreilly.com/uperl2k for details. Thanks, Daniel From ask at valueclick.com Tue Aug 29 17:35:50 2000 From: ask at valueclick.com (Ask Bjoern Hansen) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: Lunch report In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Tue, 29 Aug 2000 Dan.Sherer@wellpoint.com wrote: [...] > (Mark, what was the URL to that website? I tried www.stonehenge.com, but it > wasn't working.) It's the right url, the site is just down it seems. > Also, as I said, O'Reilly is offering us a 20% discount on their > "University of Perl 2000" (to be held in L.A. Oct. 5 & 6). See > http://conferences.oreilly.com/uperl2k for details. Damian Conway is always amazingly funny, interesting and a very good teacher. mjd's "Tricks of the Wizards" is a good introduction to "how perl works under the hood" if it's the tutorial I think it is. - ask -- ask bjoern hansen - more than 70M impressions per day, From brent.fulgham at xpsystems.com Tue Aug 29 18:18:43 2000 From: brent.fulgham at xpsystems.com (Brent Fulgham) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: Lunch report Message-ID: > > Also, as I said, O'Reilly is offering us a 20% discount on their > > "University of Perl 2000" (to be held in L.A. Oct. 5 & 6). See > > http://conferences.oreilly.com/uperl2k for details. > > Damian Conway is always amazingly funny, interesting and a very good > teacher. > He's also an excellent authory. I'm greatly enjoying his "Object Oriented Perl" book, and have long been a fan of his Coy.pm module. "Error messages strewn across my terminal. A vein starts to throb. Their reproof adds the injury of insult to the shame of failure. When a program dies what you need is a moment of serenity. The Coy.pm module brings tranquillity to your debugging." -Brent From ask at valueclick.com Wed Aug 30 15:26:40 2000 From: ask at valueclick.com (Ask Bjoern Hansen) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: www.stonehenge.com (fwd) Message-ID: :) -- ask bjoern hansen - more than 70M impressions per day, ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 30 Aug 2000 08:24:18 -0700 From: Randal L. Schwartz To: Ask Bjoern Hansen Subject: Re: www.stonehenge.com >>>>> "Ask" == Ask Bjoern Hansen writes: Ask> [ask@impatience ask]$ telnet www.stonehenge.com 80 Ask> Trying 209.102.105.69... Ask> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused Grr. thanks for pointing that out. Took my server down for a couple minutes when we were runinng out of swap, and forgot to put it back up. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! From brent.fulgham at xpsystems.com Wed Aug 30 15:42:31 2000 From: brent.fulgham at xpsystems.com (Brent Fulgham) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: www.stonehenge.com (fwd) Message-ID: So now that stonehenge is back up, can anyone remember which column was at issue? > -----Original Message----- > From: Ask Bjoern Hansen [mailto:ask@valueclick.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 1:27 PM > To: thousand-oaks-pm-list@pm.org > Subject: Re: www.stonehenge.com (fwd) > > > > :) > > -- > ask bjoern hansen - > more than 70M impressions per day, > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: 30 Aug 2000 08:24:18 -0700 > From: Randal L. Schwartz > To: Ask Bjoern Hansen > Subject: Re: www.stonehenge.com > > >>>>> "Ask" == Ask Bjoern Hansen writes: > > Ask> [ask@impatience ask]$ telnet www.stonehenge.com 80 > Ask> Trying 209.102.105.69... > Ask> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused > > Grr. thanks for pointing that out. Took my server down for a couple > minutes when we were runinng out of swap, and forgot to put > it back up. :) > > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - > +1 503 777 0095 > > Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and > open-enrollment Perl training! > From brent.fulgham at xpsystems.com Wed Aug 30 16:02:59 2000 From: brent.fulgham at xpsystems.com (Brent Fulgham) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: Mapping..... (Was Stonehenge) Message-ID: In fact ... all this talk yesterday of 'maps' was coming back to me this morning while I tried to get Damian Conway's Coy.pm module to work. There were several routines like the following: my $foo = join "|", map { chop; $_; } ( "anathema", "bema", "carcinoma", "charisma", "diploma", "dogma", "drama", "edema", "enema", "enigma", "lemma", "lymphoma", "magma", "melisma", "miasma", "oedema", "sarcoma", "schema", "soma", "stigma", "stoma", "trauma", "gumma", "pragma", ); I must admit, I wasn't exactly sure what this did. I fired it off in a test program to see what $foo is filled with: anathem|bem|carcinom|charism|...etc... So it basically modifies the unnamed list in place, to yield a list of words with the last character missing. The funny 'map' statement is a functional way of doing the following: my @list = ("anathema", "bema", ... ,"gumma", "pragma"); my $foo; foreach $word (@list) { chop $word; $foo .= $word $foo .= "|" } (except better because it doesn't stick an extra "|" at the end). Anyway, Perl 5.6 apparently changes things a bit so you can't modify an unnamed construct list (which is basically a constant) in-place. So the fix is to say: my $bar = join "|", map { my $val = $_; chop $val; $val} ( "anathema", "bema", "carcinoma", "charisma", "diploma", "dogma", "drama", "edema", "enema", "enigma", "lemma", "lymphoma", "magma", "melisma", "miasma", "oedema", "sarcoma", "schema", "soma", "stigma", "stoma", "trauma", "gumma", "pragma", ); Which just introduces a new temporary variable. Is it less efficient? Who knows. I sent a funny e-mail to Damian about the fix: -------------------------------- Tension mounting. Stress. Broken Coy is bad karma! Where can I find peace? It seems that Perl five point six broke your Coy module. Attached is a patch. You will, no doubt, need to make it harmonious with the rest of Coy. Water falls on a rock. A small gift from neophyte to the great teacher. --------------------------------- It was a great honor to get an e-mail back from him later this same day: When the student can patch the teacher's broken code, who is the master? Many thanks, grasshopper. Damian From gansok at digisle.net Wed Aug 30 16:58:21 2000 From: gansok at digisle.net (Gary Ansok) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:52 2004 Subject: Mapping..... (Was Stonehenge) References: Message-ID: <39AD837D.AE50E6B4@digisle.net> Brent Fulgham wrote: > Anyway, Perl 5.6 apparently changes things a bit so you can't modify an > unnamed > construct list (which is basically a constant) in-place. So the fix is to > say: > > my $bar = join "|", map { my $val = $_; chop $val; $val} > ( > "anathema", "bema", "carcinoma", "charisma", "diploma", > "dogma", "drama", "edema", "enema", "enigma", "lemma", > "lymphoma", "magma", "melisma", "miasma", "oedema", > "sarcoma", "schema", "soma", "stigma", "stoma", "trauma", > "gumma", "pragma", > ); Which is another way of saying my $bar = join "|", map { substr $_, 0, -1 } ( ... list ... ) Benchmarking shows that the substr() version is about 50% faster than the chop() version -- and I think the substr() version is easier to understand, too. The old chop() version (without the temporary) was pretty close to the substr() version -- I showed substr() just a little faster, but wouldn't be surprised if chop() was faster in a different environment. Even easier to understand might be { substr $_, 0, length($_) - 1 }, but that does impose a speed penalty and isn't nearly as Perlish. > Which just introduces a new temporary variable. Is it less efficient? Who > knows. That's what Benchmark.pm is for! Benchmark: timing 100000 iterations of chop, regexp, sublen, subneg... chop: 13 wallclock secs (12.51 usr + 0.00 sys = 12.51 CPU) @ 7994.88/s (n=100000) regexp: 14 wallclock secs (13.28 usr + 0.00 sys = 13.28 CPU) @ 7531.25/s (n=100000) sublen: 10 wallclock secs ( 9.60 usr + 0.00 sys = 9.60 CPU) @ 10413.41/s (n=100000) subneg: 7 wallclock secs ( 7.88 usr + 0.00 sys = 7.88 CPU) @ 12687.14/s (n=100000) (regexp was { /(.*).\z/ }; sublen was { substr $_, 0, (length($_) - 1) }) > I sent a funny e-mail to Damian about the fix: > > -------------------------------- > Tension mounting. Stress. > Broken Coy is bad karma! > Where can I find peace? > > It seems that Perl five > point six broke your Coy module. > Attached is a patch. > > You will, no doubt, need > to make it harmonious > with the rest of Coy. > > Water falls on a rock. > A small gift from neophyte > to the great teacher. > > --------------------------------- > > It was a great honor to get an e-mail back from him > later this same day: > > When the student can > patch the teacher's broken code, > who is the master? > > Many thanks, grasshopper. > > Damian LOL! -- Gary From brent.fulgham at xpsystems.com Wed Aug 30 17:33:35 2000 From: brent.fulgham at xpsystems.com (Brent Fulgham) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:53 2004 Subject: Did Perl 5.6 break Coy? Message-ID: > > Water falls on a rock. > > A small gift from neophyte > > to the great teacher. > > When the student can > patch the teacher's broken code, > who is the master? > > Many thanks, grasshopper. > Tale of the Cricket ----------------------------- Boasting broadly of the great help he provided. Grasshopper was proud. But the lizard said your map routine is too slow. Use 'substr' instead. Benchmark.pm # Note: Syllabals are right if you read it out shows you to be thirty percent too slow. Ashamed, Grasshopper must provide you a new patch. Better luck this time. -Brent begin 600 coy-2.diff M9&EF9B`M=V%R=3,@+R]C+W-C2`D4$Q?R!C:&]P.R`D7SL@?0T**VUY("103%]S8E]#7V%?871A(#T@:F]I;B`B?"(L M(&UA<"![('-U8G-T2`D4$Q?R!S=6)S='(@)%\L(#`L("TR('T-"B`H#0H@"2)B86-T97)I=6TB+`DB86=E M;F1U;2(L"2)D97-I9&5R871U;2(L"2)E2`D4$Q?&EM=6TB+`DB;6EN:6UU M;2(L"2)M;VUE;G1U;2(L"2)O<'1I;75M(BP-"B`)(G%U86YT=6TB+`DB8W)A M;FEU;2(L"2)C=7)R:6-U;'5M(BP)(F1I8W1U;2(L#0I`0"`M,3DT+#<@*S$Y M-"PW($!`#0H@#0H@(R!53D-/3D1)5$E/3D%,("(N+G5S(B`M/B`B:2(-"B`- M"BUM>2`D4$Q?R!S=6)S='(@)%\L(#`L("TR('T-"B`H#0H@"2)A;'5M;G5S(BP)(F%L=F5O M;'5S(BP)(F)A8VEL;'5S(BP)(F)R;VYC:'5S(BP-"B`)(FQO8W5S(BP)(FYU M8VQE=7,B+`DB2`D4$Q?R!C:&]P.R!C:&]P.R`D7SL@?0T**VUY("103%]S8E]57V]N7V$@ M/2!J;VEN(")\(BP@;6%P('L@2`D4$Q?6UO2`D M4$Q?%]I8V5S(#T@:F]I;B`B?"(L(&UA<"![('-U8G-T2`D4$Q?%]I8V5S(#T@:F]I;B`B?"(L(&UA M<"![('-U8G-T"(L"2)V97)T M97@B+`DB8V]R=&5X(BP)(FQA=&5X(BP-"B`)(G!O;G1I9F5X(BP)(F%P97@B 8+`D)(FEN9&5X(BP)(G-I;7!L97@B+`T* ` end From Dan.Sherer at wellpoint.com Wed Aug 30 20:43:00 2000 From: Dan.Sherer at wellpoint.com (Dan.Sherer@wellpoint.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:53 2004 Subject: 'map' and schwartzian transforms Message-ID: With regards to Mark's comments yesterday about the complexity of Randal Schwartz's use of the "map" command to sort a list. I did some research and found another author who uses that code and has created a nice explaination of it. He named the algorithm "The Schwartzian Transform" in honor of its author. Check out his description at http://www.5sigma.com/perl/schwtr.html His book is called "Effective Perl Programming" by Joseph N. Hall A sample "Schwartzian Transform" is: @sorted_by_size = map { $_->[0] } sort { $a->[1] <=> $b->[1] } map { [$_, -s] } @files; As it turns out, the most important thing to know about this is that the "key field" is determined by what you include to the bottom-most sort. In this example, "-s" is used. That is (of course) the file test to report size, in bytes. The second most important thing is the operator and the order of keys in the sort statement. In this case, we're using "<=>" which means "compare numbers". And, we've listed the sort parameters ($a and $b) in ASCENDING order. So the sort will be from smallest file to largest. (duh!) Slightly intimidating. Very fast and "powerful". Very Perl-ish! Daniel From mark at markwild.com Thu Aug 31 02:06:07 2000 From: mark at markwild.com (Mark Widawer) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:53 2004 Subject: www.stonehenge.com (fwd) References: Message-ID: <00aa01c01319$f1b73600$0301010a@widawer> Brent, You'll find the code at this URL: http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/WebTechniques/col51.listing.txt, lines 6 through 15. --Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: Brent Fulgham To: Ask Bjoern Hansen ; Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 1:42 PM Subject: RE: www.stonehenge.com (fwd) > So now that stonehenge is back up, can anyone remember > which column was at issue? > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Ask Bjoern Hansen [mailto:ask@valueclick.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2000 1:27 PM > > To: thousand-oaks-pm-list@pm.org > > Subject: Re: www.stonehenge.com (fwd) > > > > > > > > :) > > > > -- > > ask bjoern hansen - > > more than 70M impressions per day, > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > Date: 30 Aug 2000 08:24:18 -0700 > > From: Randal L. Schwartz > > To: Ask Bjoern Hansen > > Subject: Re: www.stonehenge.com > > > > >>>>> "Ask" == Ask Bjoern Hansen writes: > > > > Ask> [ask@impatience ask]$ telnet www.stonehenge.com 80 > > Ask> Trying 209.102.105.69... > > Ask> telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused > > > > Grr. thanks for pointing that out. Took my server down for a couple > > minutes when we were runinng out of swap, and forgot to put > > it back up. :) > > > > > > -- > > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - > > +1 503 777 0095 > > > > Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > > See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and > > open-enrollment Perl training! > > From gansok at digisle.net Thu Aug 31 11:08:33 2000 From: gansok at digisle.net (Gary Ansok) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:53 2004 Subject: www.stonehenge.com (fwd) References: <00aa01c01319$f1b73600$0301010a@widawer> Message-ID: <39AE8301.1EF546D0@digisle.net> SPOILERS below, so don't read if you want to try to figure Randal's code out yourself! Interesting... Randal's code is my @column_def = map [ m{^(\S+)\s+(.*)} ], <<'END_DEFINITION' =~ /(.+)/g; followed by a here-document containing lines like Name perl-mongers group name I might have written it as my @column_def = map [ split ' ', $_, 2 ], split /\n/, <<'END_DEFINITION'; This seems a lot clearer to me. I think it's the same result (it looks the same when I print it). But TMTOWTDI, of course! The only part of Randal's code that I would call _really_ obscure is the /(.+)/g at the end. -- Gary From brent.fulgham at xpsystems.com Thu Aug 31 11:42:11 2000 From: brent.fulgham at xpsystems.com (Brent Fulgham) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:53 2004 Subject: www.stonehenge.com (fwd) Message-ID: Gary, You have VERY strong Kung Fu. (continued) > SPOILERS below, so don't read if you want to try to figure > Randal's code > out yourself! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting... > > Randal's code is > my @column_def = map [ m{^(\S+)\s+(.*)} ], <<'END_DEFINITION' =~ > /(.+)/g; > > followed by a here-document containing lines like > Name perl-mongers group name > > I might have written it as > my @column_def = map [ split ' ', $_, 2 ], split /\n/, > <<'END_DEFINITION'; > > This seems a lot clearer to me. I think it's the same result > (it looks the same when I print it). But TMTOWTDI, of course! > > The only part of Randal's code that I would call _really_ obscure > is the /(.+)/g at the end. > The funky "<<'END_DEFEINITION' " construct is something I usually associate with shell scripts. It seems like pre-defining the hash might have been clearer, but I guess this way he only had to fill out the list one time and it generates both the columns array and the hash table... Interesting. -Brent