From Rafiq.Ismail at MorganStanley.com Tue Feb 26 03:21:57 2008 From: Rafiq.Ismail at MorganStanley.com (Ismail, Rafiq (IT)) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:21:57 -0000 Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] O'REILLY UK User Group Program Message-ID: <0F354FDFECA12647B75F7B154EC382850AB39819@LNWEXMB58.msad.ms.com> Congratulations Group, We're now official members of the O'Reilly UK User Group Program. I've received a parcel with a copy of "Perl Testing - A Developer's Notebook." Please let me know if anyone is intersting in writing a review for this book? We are also eligible for: * A 35% discount on all O'Reilly books and no P&P. "To get this discount, please ask your members to use the "UK shopping cart" on www.oreilly.com and quote reference OR111 when ordering." * If anyone has any other titles which they would be intersted in reviewing, let me know and I'll see if I can arrange it. Now, let's find a venue? They have also said that they can assist in arranging talks by O'Reilly authors. Further, I have lots of O'Reilly postcards to distribute. :) :) Rafiq Ismail Morgan Stanley | Technology 20 Bank Street | Canary Wharf | Floor 12 London, E14 4AD Phone: +44 20 7677-2923 Rafiq.Ismail at MorganStanley.com -------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not intend to waive confidentiality or privilege. Use of this email is prohibited when received in error. From Rafiq.Ismail at MorganStanley.com Tue Feb 26 03:42:04 2008 From: Rafiq.Ismail at MorganStanley.com (Ismail, Rafiq (IT)) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 11:42:04 -0000 Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] O'REILLY UK User Group Program In-Reply-To: <0F354FDFECA12647B75F7B154EC382850AB39819@LNWEXMB58.msad.ms.com> References: <0F354FDFECA12647B75F7B154EC382850AB39819@LNWEXMB58.msad.ms.com> Message-ID: <0F354FDFECA12647B75F7B154EC382850AB39838@LNWEXMB58.msad.ms.com> Btw, apologies for the smilies.. > -----Original Message----- > From: > thamesvalley-pm-bounces+rafiq.ismail=morganstanley.com at pm.org > [mailto:thamesvalley-pm-bounces+rafiq.ismail=morganstanley.com @pm.org] On Behalf Of Ismail, Rafiq (IT) > Sent: 26 February 2008 11:22 > To: ThamesValley Perl Mongers > Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] O'REILLY UK User Group Program > > Congratulations Group, > > We're now official members of the O'Reilly UK User Group Program. > > I've received a parcel with a copy of "Perl Testing - A > Developer's Notebook." Please let me know if anyone is > intersting in writing a review for this book? > > We are also eligible for: > > * A 35% discount on all O'Reilly books and no P&P. "To get this > discount, please ask your members to use the "UK shopping > cart" on www.oreilly.com and quote reference OR111 when ordering." > > * If anyone has any other titles which they would be > intersted in reviewing, let me know and I'll see if I can arrange it. > > Now, let's find a venue? They have also said that they can > assist in arranging talks by O'Reilly authors. Further, I > have lots of O'Reilly postcards to distribute. :) > > :) > > Rafiq Ismail > Morgan Stanley | Technology > 20 Bank Street | Canary Wharf | Floor 12 London, E14 4AD > Phone: +44 20 7677-2923 > Rafiq.Ismail at MorganStanley.com > -------------------------------------------------------- > > NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify > sender. Sender does not intend to waive confidentiality or > privilege. Use of this email is prohibited when received in error. > _______________________________________________ > Thamesvalley-pm mailing list > Thamesvalley-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/thamesvalley-pm > -------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not intend to waive confidentiality or privilege. Use of this email is prohibited when received in error. From lw at judocoach.com Tue Feb 26 05:54:27 2008 From: lw at judocoach.com (Lance Wicks) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 13:54:27 +0000 Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] O'REILLY UK User Group Program Message-ID: I'd be happy to do a review from a "new to TDD" perspective. I have been working on a project, where I actually started to do things in a more test driven manner. No promises on quality of writing. By the way, when is the next meetup? I am determined to make the next one. Lance -original message- Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] O'REILLY UK User Group Program From: "Ismail, Rafiq \(IT\)" Date: 26/02/2008 11:22 am Congratulations Group, We're now official members of the O'Reilly UK User Group Program. I've received a parcel with a copy of "Perl Testing - A Developer's Notebook." Please let me know if anyone is intersting in writing a review for this book? We are also eligible for: * A 35% discount on all O'Reilly books and no P&P. "To get this discount, please ask your members to use the "UK shopping cart" on www.oreilly.com and quote reference OR111 when ordering." * If anyone has any other titles which they would be intersted in reviewing, let me know and I'll see if I can arrange it. Now, let's find a venue? They have also said that they can assist in arranging talks by O'Reilly authors. Further, I have lots of O'Reilly postcards to distribute. :) :) Rafiq Ismail Morgan Stanley | Technology 20 Bank Street | Canary Wharf | Floor 12 London, E14 4AD Phone: +44 20 7677-2923 Rafiq.Ismail at MorganStanley.com -------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not intend to waive confidentiality or privilege. Use of this email is prohibited when received in error. _______________________________________________ Thamesvalley-pm mailing list Thamesvalley-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/thamesvalley-pm From dave at dave.org.uk Tue Feb 26 06:11:05 2008 From: dave at dave.org.uk (Dave Cross) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 14:11:05 +0000 Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] O'REILLY UK User Group Program In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20080226141105.ouq2x3o9s0sgskow@webmail.mag-sol.com> Quoting Lance Wicks : > I'd be happy to do a review from a "new to TDD" perspective. > I have been working on a project, where I actually started to do > things in a more test driven manner. "Perl Testing - A Developer's Notebook" isn't actually about test-driven development. It's an introduction to all of the various kinds of Perl testing technologies. In fact, TDD isn't even in the index. Not that this is in any way a criticism. It's a great book. I highly recommend it. Dave... From lw at judocoach.com Tue Feb 26 15:20:25 2008 From: lw at judocoach.com (Lance Wicks) Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 23:20:25 +0000 Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] O'REILLY UK User Group Program In-Reply-To: <20080226141105.ouq2x3o9s0sgskow@webmail.mag-sol.com> References: <20080226141105.ouq2x3o9s0sgskow@webmail.mag-sol.com> Message-ID: <8FB53B49-3F2D-4FA8-9173-E74E75832A00@judocoach.com> Hi Dave, would you consider it a good intro text for someone just getting started with testing? I am at the stage where I am starting to write basic tests with test::more Lance On Feb 26, 2008, at 2:11 PM, Dave Cross wrote: > Quoting Lance Wicks : > >> I'd be happy to do a review from a "new to TDD" perspective. >> I have been working on a project, where I actually started to do >> things in a more test driven manner. > > "Perl Testing - A Developer's Notebook" isn't actually about > test-driven development. It's an introduction to all of the various > kinds of Perl testing technologies. > > In fact, TDD isn't even in the index. > > Not that this is in any way a criticism. It's a great book. I highly > recommend it. > > Dave... > > _______________________________________________ > Thamesvalley-pm mailing list > Thamesvalley-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/thamesvalley-pm Below are my contact details: =============================== telephone: +44 (0)207 871 9516 email: lw at judocoach.com web: www.judocoach.com ICQ: 9908585 AIM: lancewicks Google Talk: Y!: lwicks_2000 MSN: akagewicks at hotmail.com (** I do not use hotmail for eMail) Jabber:lwicks at jabber.org IRC: lwicks at irc.freenode.net Skype: lwicks =============================== -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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As the only one to come forward, you win the right to write this review. I'll drop you a seperate email directly. Thanks, Raf ________________________________ From: thamesvalley-pm-bounces+rafiq.ismail=ms.com at pm.org [mailto:thamesvalley-pm-bounces+rafiq.ismail=ms.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Lance Wicks Sent: 26 February 2008 23:20 To: ThamesValley Perl Mongers Subject: Re: [Thamesvalley-pm] O'REILLY UK User Group Program Hi Dave, would you consider it a good intro text for someone just getting started with testing? I am at the stage where I am starting to write basic tests with test::more Lance On Feb 26, 2008, at 2:11 PM, Dave Cross wrote: Quoting Lance Wicks : I'd be happy to do a review from a "new to TDD" perspective. I have been working on a project, where I actually started to do things in a more test driven manner. "Perl Testing - A Developer's Notebook" isn't actually about test-driven development. It's an introduction to all of the various kinds of Perl testing technologies. In fact, TDD isn't even in the index. Not that this is in any way a criticism. It's a great book. I highly recommend it. Dave... _______________________________________________ Thamesvalley-pm mailing list Thamesvalley-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/thamesvalley-pm Below are my contact details: =============================== telephone: +44 (0)207 871 9516 email: lw at judocoach.com web: www.judocoach.com ICQ: 9908585 AIM: lancewicks Google Talk: Y!: lwicks_2000 MSN: akagewicks at hotmail.com (** I do not use hotmail for eMail) Jabber:lwicks at jabber.org IRC: lwicks at irc.freenode.net Skype: lwicks =============================== -------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not intend to waive confidentiality or privilege. 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Nothing is perfect but it is worth buying. See my previous review: http://www.debian-administration.org/users/ajt/weblog/104 and someone else's review: http://edinburgh.pm.org/book-reviews/perl-testing-developers-notebook.html -- Adam Trickett Overton, HANTS, UK The animals are not as stupid as one thinks - they have neither doctors nor lawyers. -- L Doquier -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. Url : http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/thamesvalley-pm/attachments/20080227/232ac609/attachment.bin From dave at dave.org.uk Thu Feb 28 08:30:43 2008 From: dave at dave.org.uk (Dave Cross) Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:30:43 +0000 Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] O'REILLY UK User Group Program In-Reply-To: <8FB53B49-3F2D-4FA8-9173-E74E75832A00@judocoach.com> References: <20080226141105.ouq2x3o9s0sgskow@webmail.mag-sol.com> <8FB53B49-3F2D-4FA8-9173-E74E75832A00@judocoach.com> Message-ID: <20080228163043.fa47byzvkgkog8o4@webmail.mag-sol.com> Quoting Lance Wicks : [ talking about "Perl Testing - A Developer's Handbook" ] > would you consider it a good intro text for someone just getting > started with testing? > I am at the stage where I am starting to write basic tests with test::more Definitely. I think it works for people at all levels of testing experience. Dave...