From Rafiq.Ismail at MorganStanley.com Mon Sep 3 05:33:10 2007 From: Rafiq.Ismail at MorganStanley.com (Ismail, Rafiq (IT)) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 13:33:10 +0100 Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] Something better than pod2html? Message-ID: <0F354FDFECA12647B75F7B154EC3828507A1451E@LNWEXMB58.msad.ms.com> People... Does anyone know of tool which will generate more javadoc style html from perldoc's? I remember seeing something presented which didn't need additional markup, but was able to link back to super classes - and looked pertty.. Thoughts? Rafiq Ismail Prism Team Securities Reference Data +44 (0)20 7677 2923 -------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not intend to waive confidentiality or privilege. Use of this email is prohibited when received in error. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/thamesvalley-pm/attachments/20070903/b8934097/attachment.html From oliver.gorwits at oucs.ox.ac.uk Mon Sep 3 06:42:20 2007 From: oliver.gorwits at oucs.ox.ac.uk (Oliver Gorwits) Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 14:42:20 +0100 Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] Something better than pod2html? In-Reply-To: <0F354FDFECA12647B75F7B154EC3828507A1451E@LNWEXMB58.msad.ms.com> References: <0F354FDFECA12647B75F7B154EC3828507A1451E@LNWEXMB58.msad.ms.com> Message-ID: <46DC0F3C.9060900@oucs.ox.ac.uk> Ismail, Rafiq (IT) wrote: > People... > > Does anyone know of tool which will generate more javadoc style html > from perldoc's? I remember seeing something presented which didn't need > additional markup, but was able to link back to super classes - and > looked pertty.. perhaps OODoc? http://search.cpan.org/perldoc?OODoc regards, oliver. -- Oliver Gorwits, Network and Telecommunications Group, Oxford University Computing Services From Rafiq.Ismail at MorganStanley.com Mon Sep 3 07:18:51 2007 From: Rafiq.Ismail at MorganStanley.com (Ismail, Rafiq (IT)) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 15:18:51 +0100 Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] Something better than pod2html? In-Reply-To: <46DC0F3C.9060900@oucs.ox.ac.uk> References: <0F354FDFECA12647B75F7B154EC3828507A1451E@LNWEXMB58.msad.ms.com> <46DC0F3C.9060900@oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: <0F354FDFECA12647B75F7B154EC3828507A145BE@LNWEXMB58.msad.ms.com> Looks very much like what I remember having seen.. Thanks, Raf > -----Original Message----- > From: > thamesvalley-pm-bounces+rafiq.ismail=morganstanley.com at pm.org > [mailto:thamesvalley-pm-bounces+rafiq.ismail=morganstanley.com @pm.org] On Behalf Of Oliver Gorwits > Sent: 03 September 2007 14:42 > To: ThamesValley Perl Mongers > Subject: Re: [Thamesvalley-pm] Something better than pod2html? > > Ismail, Rafiq (IT) wrote: > > People... > > > > Does anyone know of tool which will generate more javadoc > style html > > from perldoc's? I remember seeing something presented which didn't > > need additional markup, but was able to link back to super > classes - > > and looked pertty.. > > perhaps OODoc? > > http://search.cpan.org/perldoc?OODoc > > regards, > oliver. > -- > Oliver Gorwits, Network and Telecommunications Group, Oxford > University Computing Services > _______________________________________________ > Thamesvalley-pm mailing list > Thamesvalley-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/thamesvalley-pm > -------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not intend to waive confidentiality or privilege. Use of this email is prohibited when received in error. From adam.trickett at iredale.net Mon Sep 3 08:08:53 2007 From: adam.trickett at iredale.net (Adam Trickett) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 16:08:53 +0100 Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] Next Meeting? Message-ID: <200709031609.03147.adam.trickett@iredale.net> Hi, When and where will the next meeting take place? I'm giving my Perl Introduction talk to the Surrey/Hants LUG next Saturday I can try to drum up support if I know when the next meeting is. -- Adam Trickett Overton, HANTS, UK Capitalism is the extraordinary belief that the nastiest of men, for the nastiest of reasons, will somehow work for the benefit of us all. -- John Maynard Keynes -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/thamesvalley-pm/attachments/20070903/334e91f5/attachment.bin From Rafiq.Ismail at MorganStanley.com Mon Sep 3 08:31:42 2007 From: Rafiq.Ismail at MorganStanley.com (Ismail, Rafiq (IT)) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 16:31:42 +0100 Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] Next Meeting? In-Reply-To: <200709031609.03147.adam.trickett@iredale.net> References: <200709031609.03147.adam.trickett@iredale.net> Message-ID: <0F354FDFECA12647B75F7B154EC3828507A14623@LNWEXMB58.msad.ms.com> Friday, 21st September? If we can have a show of interest I'll drop a mail to our venue. Btw, has anyone managed to prospect any other venues in the region? Regards, Raf > -----Original Message----- > From: thamesvalley-pm-bounces+rafiq.ismail=ms.com at pm.org > [mailto:thamesvalley-pm-bounces+rafiq.ismail=ms.com at pm.org] > On Behalf Of Adam Trickett > Sent: 03 September 2007 16:09 > To: ThamesValley Mongers > Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] Next Meeting? > > Hi, > > When and where will the next meeting take place? > > I'm giving my Perl Introduction talk to the Surrey/Hants LUG > next Saturday I can try to drum up support if I know when the > next meeting is. > > > -- > Adam Trickett > Overton, HANTS, UK > > Capitalism is the extraordinary belief that the nastiest of men, for > the nastiest of reasons, will somehow work for the benefit of us all. > -- John Maynard Keynes > -------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not intend to waive confidentiality or privilege. Use of this email is prohibited when received in error. From wdhawes at gmail.com Mon Sep 3 09:01:11 2007 From: wdhawes at gmail.com (Will Hawes) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 17:01:11 +0100 Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] Next Meeting? In-Reply-To: <0F354FDFECA12647B75F7B154EC3828507A14623@LNWEXMB58.msad.ms.com> References: <200709031609.03147.adam.trickett@iredale.net> <0F354FDFECA12647B75F7B154EC3828507A14623@LNWEXMB58.msad.ms.com> Message-ID: <360eac500709030901u77551e49v316f243f3ab0add6@mail.gmail.com> Hi everyone, I'm new to the list and would like to attend if possible. Where is the venue? On 03/09/07, Ismail, Rafiq (IT) wrote: > > Friday, 21st September? > > If we can have a show of interest I'll drop a mail to our venue. > > Btw, has anyone managed to prospect any other venues in the region? > > Regards, > > Raf > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: thamesvalley-pm-bounces+rafiq.ismail=ms.com at pm.org > > [mailto:thamesvalley-pm-bounces+rafiq.ismail=ms.com at pm.org] > > On Behalf Of Adam Trickett > > Sent: 03 September 2007 16:09 > > To: ThamesValley Mongers > > Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] Next Meeting? > > > > Hi, > > > > When and where will the next meeting take place? > > > > I'm giving my Perl Introduction talk to the Surrey/Hants LUG > > next Saturday I can try to drum up support if I know when the > > next meeting is. > > > > > > -- > > Adam Trickett > > Overton, HANTS, UK > > > > Capitalism is the extraordinary belief that the nastiest of men, for > > the nastiest of reasons, will somehow work for the benefit of us all. > > -- John Maynard Keynes > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender > does not intend to waive confidentiality or privilege. Use of this email is > prohibited when received in error. > _______________________________________________ > Thamesvalley-pm mailing list > Thamesvalley-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/thamesvalley-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/thamesvalley-pm/attachments/20070903/e701fe80/attachment.html From Rafiq.Ismail at MorganStanley.com Mon Sep 3 09:34:00 2007 From: Rafiq.Ismail at MorganStanley.com (Ismail, Rafiq (IT)) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 17:34:00 +0100 Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] Next Meeting? In-Reply-To: <360eac500709030901u77551e49v316f243f3ab0add6@mail.gmail.com> References: <200709031609.03147.adam.trickett@iredale.net><0F354FDFECA12647B75F7B154EC3828507A14623@LNWEXMB58.msad.ms.com> <360eac500709030901u77551e49v316f243f3ab0add6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0F354FDFECA12647B75F7B154EC3828507A14651@LNWEXMB58.msad.ms.com> Directions are provided in: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/thamesvalley-pm/2007-July/000044.html Once we have sufficient interest.. I'll seek out confirmation of the venue. Speakers, please come forward. Adam? Raf ________________________________ From: thamesvalley-pm-bounces+rafiq.ismail=ms.com at pm.org [mailto:thamesvalley-pm-bounces+rafiq.ismail=ms.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Will Hawes Sent: 03 September 2007 17:01 To: ThamesValley Perl Mongers Subject: Re: [Thamesvalley-pm] Next Meeting? Hi everyone, I'm new to the list and would like to attend if possible. Where is the venue? On 03/09/07, Ismail, Rafiq (IT) < Rafiq.Ismail at morganstanley.com > wrote: Friday, 21st September? If we can have a show of interest I'll drop a mail to our venue. Btw, has anyone managed to prospect any other venues in the region? Regards, Raf > -----Original Message----- > From: thamesvalley-pm-bounces+rafiq.ismail= ms.com at pm.org > [mailto:thamesvalley-pm-bounces+rafiq.ismail=ms.com at pm.org] > On Behalf Of Adam Trickett > Sent: 03 September 2007 16:09 > To: ThamesValley Mongers > Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] Next Meeting? > > Hi, > > When and where will the next meeting take place? > > I'm giving my Perl Introduction talk to the Surrey/Hants LUG > next Saturday I can try to drum up support if I know when the > next meeting is. > > > -- > Adam Trickett > Overton, HANTS, UK > > Capitalism is the extraordinary belief that the nastiest of men, for > the nastiest of reasons, will somehow work for the benefit of us all. > -- John Maynard Keynes > -------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not intend to waive confidentiality or privilege. Use of this email is prohibited when received in error. _______________________________________________ Thamesvalley-pm mailing list Thamesvalley-pm at pm.org http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/thamesvalley-pm -------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not intend to waive confidentiality or privilege. Use of this email is prohibited when received in error. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/thamesvalley-pm/attachments/20070903/e26d6e76/attachment-0001.html From lw at judocoach.com Mon Sep 3 13:33:33 2007 From: lw at judocoach.com (Lance Wicks) Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 21:33:33 +0100 Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] Next Meeting? In-Reply-To: <360eac500709030901u77551e49v316f243f3ab0add6@mail.gmail.com> References: <200709031609.03147.adam.trickett@iredale.net> <0F354FDFECA12647B75F7B154EC3828507A14623@LNWEXMB58.msad.ms.com> <360eac500709030901u77551e49v316f243f3ab0add6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B9725FB-A607-4E4A-906A-ABA7DD3E48AE@judocoach.com> Given good luck, good planning and good intentions, I'll be there. Lance Wicks lw at judocoach.com On 3 Sep 2007, at 17:01, Will Hawes wrote: > Hi everyone, I'm new to the list and would like to attend if > possible. Where is the venue? > > On 03/09/07, Ismail, Rafiq (IT) < Rafiq.Ismail at morganstanley.com> > wrote: > Friday, 21st September? > > If we can have a show of interest I'll drop a mail to our venue. > > Btw, has anyone managed to prospect any other venues in the region? > > Regards, > > Raf > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: thamesvalley-pm-bounces+rafiq.ismail= ms.com at pm.org > > [mailto:thamesvalley-pm-bounces+rafiq.ismail=ms.com at pm.org] > > On Behalf Of Adam Trickett > > Sent: 03 September 2007 16:09 > > To: ThamesValley Mongers > > Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] Next Meeting? > > > > Hi, > > > > When and where will the next meeting take place? > > > > I'm giving my Perl Introduction talk to the Surrey/Hants LUG > > next Saturday I can try to drum up support if I know when the > > next meeting is. > > > > > > -- > > Adam Trickett > > Overton, HANTS, UK > > > > Capitalism is the extraordinary belief that the nastiest of men, for > > the nastiest of reasons, will somehow work for the benefit of us > all. > > -- John Maynard Keynes > > > -------------------------------------------------------- > > NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. > Sender does not intend to waive confidentiality or privilege. 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In-Reply-To: <46CD63AD.2050207@nerc.ac.uk> References: <200708202123.58650.adam.trickett@iredale.net> <46CAE979.8080801@nerc.ac.uk> <46CAF406.8040701@phekda.gotadsl.co.uk> <46CAF78F.1090008@nerc.ac.uk> <46CB133C.9010003@phekda.gotadsl.co.uk> <46CC0CF1.4010802@nerc.ac.uk> <46CD4FE3.6070408@ntlworld.com> <46CD63AD.2050207@nerc.ac.uk> Message-ID: <46DD1644.9050807@phekda.gotadsl.co.uk> Morning, Greg Matthews wrote: > Jacqui caren wrote: >> I am in the process of designing/writing a sax-like engine for >> email, The objective is to search for a pattern/s in message >> headers/content by serially expanding the MIME tree without >> holding the whole message in memory or files. > > interesting, why the requirement to not hold the message in memory? [snip] I'm guessing here, since I don't know the requirements. Mails can be bigger than physical memory. Or have crazy structures. Examples: * 4.7GB DVD image compressed to 450MB and then attached to a message. * Message with 2,500 attachments. * Message with 2,500 nesting levels. Bye, Rich =] -- Richard Dawe [ http://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~phekda/richdawe/ ] "You just amass stuff while you are alive. It's like stuff washed up on a beach somewhere, and that somewhere is you." -- Damien Hirst From mark.robson at surfcontrol.com Tue Sep 4 01:58:24 2007 From: mark.robson at surfcontrol.com (Mark Robson) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 09:58:24 +0100 Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] calling all Perl newbies! In-Reply-To: <46DD1644.9050807@phekda.gotadsl.co.uk> References: <200708202123.58650.adam.trickett@iredale.net> <46CAE979.8080801@nerc.ac.uk> <46CAF406.8040701@phekda.gotadsl.co.uk> <46CAF78F.1090008@nerc.ac.uk> <46CB133C.9010003@phekda.gotadsl.co.uk> <46CC0CF1.4010802@nerc.ac.uk> <46CD4FE3.6070408@ntlworld.com> <46CD63AD.2050207@nerc.ac.uk> <46DD1644.9050807@phekda.gotadsl.co.uk> Message-ID: <1188896304.27723.26.camel@mrobson-dt.mr.mailcontrol.com> On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 09:24 +0100, Richard Dawe wrote: > Mails can be bigger than physical memory. Or have crazy structures. > Examples: > > * 4.7GB DVD image compressed to 450MB and then attached to a message. > * Message with 2,500 attachments. > * Message with 2,500 nesting levels. Hi, I intend to attend the 21st Sept meeting. Anyway, working for a company which specialises in email scanning, I can confirm that people do definitely do crazy things with attachments. Of course we scan messages for viruses etc. We need to be able to deal with silly things like 10-level nested .zip files, tar.gz files, MIME attachments etc. Our system can do this but it can take some time to scan these crazy format messages. I discovered a message with around 8,000 attachments (albeit inside a .tar.gz). The message wasn't even that large. Mark _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender. If you believe that you have received this email in error, please contact the sender. This message has been scanned for viruses and spam by SurfControl E-Mail Filter. From john at stumbles.org.uk Tue Sep 4 02:54:31 2007 From: john at stumbles.org.uk (John Stumbles) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 10:54:31 +0100 Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] calling all Perl newbies! In-Reply-To: <1188896304.27723.26.camel@mrobson-dt.mr.mailcontrol.com> References: <200708202123.58650.adam.trickett@iredale.net> <46CAE979.8080801@nerc.ac.uk> <46CAF406.8040701@phekda.gotadsl.co.uk> <46CAF78F.1090008@nerc.ac.uk> <46CB133C.9010003@phekda.gotadsl.co.uk> <46CC0CF1.4010802@nerc.ac.uk> <46CD4FE3.6070408@ntlworld.com> <46CD63AD.2050207@nerc.ac.uk> <46DD1644.9050807@phekda.gotadsl.co.uk> <1188896304.27723.26.camel@mrobson-dt.mr.mailcontrol.com> Message-ID: <46DD2B57.5070201@stumbles.org.uk> Mark Robson wrote: > I discovered a message with around 8,000 attachments (albeit inside a .tar.gz). The > message wasn't even that large. I'm thinking that an attachment is where you have Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="FooBar" ... --FooBar ... Attachment 1 --FooBar ... Attachment 2 etc So do you mean you had a message with 8000 parts like the above (each inside its own tgz) rather than one attachment of a tgz with 8000 files in it? -- John Stumbles From mark.robson at surfcontrol.com Tue Sep 4 03:19:22 2007 From: mark.robson at surfcontrol.com (Mark Robson) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 11:19:22 +0100 Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] calling all Perl newbies! In-Reply-To: <46DD2B57.5070201@stumbles.org.uk> References: <200708202123.58650.adam.trickett@iredale.net> <46CAE979.8080801@nerc.ac.uk> <46CAF406.8040701@phekda.gotadsl.co.uk> <46CAF78F.1090008@nerc.ac.uk> <46CB133C.9010003@phekda.gotadsl.co.uk> <46CC0CF1.4010802@nerc.ac.uk> <46CD4FE3.6070408@ntlworld.com> <46CD63AD.2050207@nerc.ac.uk> <46DD1644.9050807@phekda.gotadsl.co.uk> <1188896304.27723.26.camel@mrobson-dt.mr.mailcontrol.com> <46DD2B57.5070201@stumbles.org.uk> Message-ID: <1188901162.27723.34.camel@mrobson-dt.mr.mailcontrol.com> On Tue, 2007-09-04 at 10:54 +0100, John Stumbles wrote: > So do you mean you had a message with 8000 parts like the above (each > inside its own tgz) rather than one attachment of a tgz with 8000 files > in it? No, it was just one mime part with a .tar.gz containing 8,000 small files. But either way, they all need to be scanned for viruses. Mark _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender. If you believe that you have received this email in error, please contact the sender. This message has been scanned for viruses and spam by SurfControl E-Mail Filter. From Rafiq.Ismail at MorganStanley.com Tue Sep 4 03:19:59 2007 From: Rafiq.Ismail at MorganStanley.com (Ismail, Rafiq (IT)) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 11:19:59 +0100 Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] Venue Issues Message-ID: <0F354FDFECA12647B75F7B154EC3828507A14767@LNWEXMB58.msad.ms.com> Gentle perlies, Bad news. Our venue, MWB, is bailing on us. Well, actually, they are trying to charge us 'money.' :) Anyway, we'll have to be more like the other groups and seek out Perl friendly venues. Anyone got alternatives? Contacts at the university of Reading? On good terms with your own employers? Rafiq Ismail Prism Team Securities Reference Data +44 (0)20 7677 2923 -------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not intend to waive confidentiality or privilege. Use of this email is prohibited when received in error. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/thamesvalley-pm/attachments/20070904/08c15933/attachment-0001.html From adam.trickett at iredale.net Tue Sep 4 04:30:59 2007 From: adam.trickett at iredale.net (Dr Adam J Trickett) Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 12:30:59 +0100 Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] Next Meeting? In-Reply-To: <0F354FDFECA12647B75F7B154EC3828507A14651@LNWEXMB58.msad.ms.com> References: <360eac500709030901u77551e49v316f243f3ab0add6@mail.gmail.com> <0F354FDFECA12647B75F7B154EC3828507A14651@LNWEXMB58.msad.ms.com> Message-ID: <20070904113059.GT22690@iredale.net> On Mon, 03 Sep 2007 at 05:34:00PM +0100, Ismail, Rafiq (IT) wrote: > Directions are provided in: > > http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/thamesvalley-pm/2007-July/000044.html > > Once we have sufficient interest.. I'll seek out confirmation of the > venue. I may be able to make the meeting, September is turning out to be very busy. > Speakers, please come forward. Adam? I'll give a talk if I can make it. Topics: 1) perl quality (repeat in case you missed it) 2) Templating utopia - or some thing similar. 3) Using PErl with SAP in the enterprise. -- Adam Trickett Overton, HANTS, UK The problem with cruel and unusual punishment is that you have to keep being creative. For example, some may call it cruel and unusual to turn a spammer into spam, but by the time you feed the hundredth into the woodchipper it's become quite usual. -- Anthony de Boer in the Monastery From jacqui.caren at ntlworld.com Tue Sep 4 05:09:45 2007 From: jacqui.caren at ntlworld.com (Jacqui caren) Date: Tue, 04 Sep 2007 13:09:45 +0100 Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] calling all Perl newbies! In-Reply-To: <46DD1644.9050807@phekda.gotadsl.co.uk> References: <200708202123.58650.adam.trickett@iredale.net> <46CAE979.8080801@nerc.ac.uk> <46CAF406.8040701@phekda.gotadsl.co.uk> <46CAF78F.1090008@nerc.ac.uk> <46CB133C.9010003@phekda.gotadsl.co.uk> <46CC0CF1.4010802@nerc.ac.uk> <46CD4FE3.6070408@ntlworld.com> <46CD63AD.2050207@nerc.ac.uk> <46DD1644.9050807@phekda.gotadsl.co.uk> Message-ID: <46DD4B09.2040708@ntlworld.com> Richard Dawe wrote: > I'm guessing here, since I don't know the requirements. The most basic requirement is to grep for a specific pattern throughout the email (including attachements). My initial attempt at a serialised message expansion was not very effecient but was some 10* faster than any of the existing MIME parsers when scanning lots of NDR's, spam etc. > Mails can be bigger than physical memory. Or have crazy structures. > Examples: > > * 4.7GB DVD image compressed to 450MB and then attached to a message. > * Message with 2,500 attachments. > * Message with 2,500 nesting levels. Attachments can be big but MIME nesting levels max out a 5 deep. Jacqui From Rafiq.Ismail at MorganStanley.com Fri Sep 7 01:06:29 2007 From: Rafiq.Ismail at MorganStanley.com (Ismail, Rafiq (IT)) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 09:06:29 +0100 Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] Venues? Message-ID: <0F354FDFECA12647B75F7B154EC3828507BBCE32@LNWEXMB58.msad.ms.com> We're still void of a venue and Iain just reminded me that there were a couple of you over from Pipex at the last meeting. I wondered if it might be possible for one of you to arrange a room on your end? Just a thought. Rafiq Ismail Prism Team Securities Reference Data +44 (0)20 7677 2923 -------------------------------------------------------- NOTICE: If received in error, please destroy and notify sender. Sender does not intend to waive confidentiality or privilege. Use of this email is prohibited when received in error. From jacqui.caren at ntlworld.com Fri Sep 7 05:47:15 2007 From: jacqui.caren at ntlworld.com (Jacqui caren) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 13:47:15 +0100 Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] Venues? In-Reply-To: <0F354FDFECA12647B75F7B154EC3828507BBCE32@LNWEXMB58.msad.ms.com> References: <0F354FDFECA12647B75F7B154EC3828507BBCE32@LNWEXMB58.msad.ms.com> Message-ID: <46E14853.9090609@ntlworld.com> Ismail, Rafiq (IT) wrote: > We're still void of a venue and Iain just reminded me that there were a > couple of you over from Pipex at the last meeting. > > I wondered if it might be possible for one of you to arrange a room on > your end? Surrey LUG is meeting this saturday at Surry Uni. This may a tad far for some but there are a few perlites coming and you would be made welcome. Jacqui From vato at limpid.org.uk Fri Sep 7 13:21:50 2007 From: vato at limpid.org.uk (Ian Dickinson) Date: Fri, 07 Sep 2007 21:21:50 +0100 Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] Venues? In-Reply-To: <0F354FDFECA12647B75F7B154EC3828507BBCE32@LNWEXMB58.msad.ms.com> References: <0F354FDFECA12647B75F7B154EC3828507BBCE32@LNWEXMB58.msad.ms.com> Message-ID: <46E1B2DE.7040805@limpid.org.uk> Ismail, Rafiq (IT) wrote: > We're still void of a venue and Iain just reminded me that there were a > couple of you over from Pipex at the last meeting. Indeed. > I wondered if it might be possible for one of you to arrange a room on > your end? Unfortunately, our location isn't suitable - it's very open plan, but is a 24 hour engineering operation not designed for any 3rd party activity. Ian From adam.trickett at iredale.net Fri Sep 7 13:21:59 2007 From: adam.trickett at iredale.net (Dr Adam J Trickett) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 21:21:59 +0100 Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] Venues? In-Reply-To: <46E14853.9090609@ntlworld.com> References: <0F354FDFECA12647B75F7B154EC3828507BBCE32@LNWEXMB58.msad.ms.com> <46E14853.9090609@ntlworld.com> Message-ID: <20070907202159.GE9516@iredale.net> On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 at 01:47:15PM +0100, Jacqui caren wrote: > Ismail, Rafiq (IT) wrote: > > We're still void of a venue and Iain just reminded me that there were a > > couple of you over from Pipex at the last meeting. > > > > I wondered if it might be possible for one of you to arrange a room on > > your end? > > Surrey LUG is meeting this saturday at Surry Uni. > This may a tad far for some but there are a few perlites coming and > you would be made welcome. I'll be giving my Perl Intro talk again, in fact. I think that Perl BOF events at LUGs is a good idea. There is the Oxford, Surrey, Hampshire and Berkshire LUGs to gate-crash. -- Adam Trickett Overton, HANTS, UK My organ doesn't work properly and emits strange burning smells -- seen on Usenet From dickon-ml at fluff.org Fri Sep 7 14:28:34 2007 From: dickon-ml at fluff.org (Dickon Hood) Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 22:28:34 +0100 Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] Venues? In-Reply-To: <20070907202159.GE9516@iredale.net> References: <0F354FDFECA12647B75F7B154EC3828507BBCE32@LNWEXMB58.msad.ms.com> <46E14853.9090609@ntlworld.com> <20070907202159.GE9516@iredale.net> Message-ID: <20070907212834.GG27128@splodge.fluff.org> On Fri, Sep 07, 2007 at 21:21:59 +0100, Dr Adam J Trickett wrote: : I'll be giving my Perl Intro talk again, in fact. I think that Perl BOF : events at LUGs is a good idea. There is the Oxford, Surrey, Hampshire : and Berkshire LUGs to gate-crash. There's no Berkshire LUG that I'm aware of, but SCLUG (the Silicon Corridor LUG -- don't blame me...) meets in the Back of Beyond on the second Wednesday of the month (ie, next week) at 1930 until closing time. The pub is roughly here. Feel free to gatecrash. You'd be most welcome. -- Dickon Hood Due to digital rights management, my .sig is temporarily unavailable. Normal service will be resumed as soon as possible. We apologise for the inconvenience in the meantime. No virus was found in this outgoing message as I didn't bother looking. From adam.trickett at iredale.net Mon Sep 10 02:27:50 2007 From: adam.trickett at iredale.net (Adam Trickett) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:27:50 +0100 Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] Venue Issues In-Reply-To: <0F354FDFECA12647B75F7B154EC3828507A14767@LNWEXMB58.msad.ms.com> References: <0F354FDFECA12647B75F7B154EC3828507A14767@LNWEXMB58.msad.ms.com> Message-ID: <200709101027.50877.adam.trickett@iredale.net> On Tuesday 04 September 2007 11:19, Ismail, Rafiq (IT) wrote: > Gentle perlies, > > Bad news. > > Our venue, MWB, is bailing on us. Well, actually, they are trying to > charge us 'money.' :) > > Anyway, we'll have to be more like the other groups and seek out Perl > friendly venues. > Anyone got alternatives? Contacts at the university of Reading? On > good terms with your own employers? I think we can easily gate crash the local LUG meetings, especially if we spread our selves about, and offer talks! The Silicon Corridor (Berkshire) have monthly meetings in a pub in Reading on a Wednesday which may be a good spot for the occasional social meeting. Hampshire LUG have a good venue at the University of Southampton every other month on a Saturday, they have two rooms, one for talks and one for a meeting. They are currently holding a joint meeting with the Surrey LUG at University of Surrey at Guildford on the alternate Saturday. Surrey LUG have both pub and bring-a-box meetings once per month, one of the BaB meetings being shared with Hants-LUG. As with Hants the University is a good meeting venue. There are two LUGs in the Oxford area, don't know much about them. If we were able to aim to have one meeting per-month we could gate-crash the LUGs if we spread ourselves around over the three active groups - anyone in Oxford know if they are active? Next we need to get a contact at Oracle, Uni of Reading or someone other central location who can hold meetings for us. 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Well, actually, they are ... > > Anyone got alternatives? Contacts at the university of > Reading? On > > good terms with your own employers? > > I think we can easily gate crash the local LUG meetings, > especially if we spread our selves about, and offer talks! Sounds like an idea. > The Silicon Corridor (Berkshire) have monthly meetings in a > pub in Reading on a Wednesday which may be a good spot for > the occasional social meeting. Do we know which Pub this is? They might be willing to host our own meetings? > Hampshire LUG have a good venue at the University of > Southampton every other month on a Saturday, they have two > rooms, one for talks and one for a meeting. They are > currently holding a joint meeting with the Surrey LUG at > University of Surrey at Guildford on the alternate Saturday. I'm wondering if this might turn out to be far for many of our members? Still sounds like an option. > Surrey LUG have both pub and bring-a-box meetings once per > month, one of the BaB meetings being shared with Hants-LUG. > As with Hants the University is a good meeting venue. Nice. > There are two LUGs in the Oxford area, don't know much about them. Iain Emsley has offered to talk to someone at the 'Jericho Tavern,' in Oxford. Apparently they already hold regular tech-nights. He's also suggested that there might be interest from the university.. > > Next we need to get a contact at Oracle, Uni of Reading or I sent an email to the head of cs at Reading. Still waiting for a response. > someone other central location who can hold meetings for us. > The Reading Remix is an open source project with space that > is one possibility - their site is down at the moment. Thanks. Sounds like we might survive. Do you know anyone involved with the regional lug's who we might be able to suggest our periodic gate crashings to? 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From dickon-ml at fluff.org Mon Sep 10 03:22:18 2007 From: dickon-ml at fluff.org (Dickon Hood) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:22:18 +0100 Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] Venue Issues In-Reply-To: <0F354FDFECA12647B75F7B154EC3828507BBD167@LNWEXMB58.msad.ms.com> References: <0F354FDFECA12647B75F7B154EC3828507A14767@LNWEXMB58.msad.ms.com> <200709101027.50877.adam.trickett@iredale.net> <0F354FDFECA12647B75F7B154EC3828507BBD167@LNWEXMB58.msad.ms.com> Message-ID: <20070910102218.GI27128@splodge.fluff.org> On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 10:43:20 +0100, Ismail, Rafiq (IT) wrote: : Hi Adam, : > The Silicon Corridor (Berkshire) have monthly meetings in a : > pub in Reading on a Wednesday which may be a good spot for : > the occasional social meeting. : Do we know which Pub this is? They might be willing to host our own : meetings? It's the Back of Beyond, a Wetherspoon's. It's a large pub, but unfortunately they've started doing quizzes on Wednesday nights now. Big enough that it doesn't disturb us, but then we're a fairly small group anyway. -- Dickon Hood Due to digital rights management, my .sig is temporarily unavailable. Normal service will be resumed as soon as possible. We apologise for the inconvenience in the meantime. No virus was found in this outgoing message as I didn't bother looking. From dave at dave.org.uk Thu Sep 13 08:30:52 2007 From: dave at dave.org.uk (Dave Cross) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 16:30:52 +0100 Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] JOB: Fwd: Any recommendations for this Perl assignment ?? Message-ID: <20070913163052.mx2blt2xokkss8ko@webmail.mag-sol.com> Do you have any rules about posting job ads to this list yet? Hope I'm not breaking them. I've just got this from an agency. It's based in Farnborough, so I think it's more likely to appeal to ThamesValley.pm than London.pm. If you're interested, then contact Christian directly, but tell him Dave sent you. Cheers, Dave... ----- Forwarded message from cl at waconsultants.com ----- Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 16:07:45 +0100 From: Christian Larder Subject: Any recommendations for this Perl assignment ?? To: dave at mag-sol.com Hi Dave Thanks for your time earlier.......as dicussed here is a copy of the requirement I have with Nokia in Farnborough. The initial requirement is for 6 months and the hourly rate is negotiable although I expect it to be between ?35-45 per hour depending on the successful candidate's experience. GSCM is a globally distributed project, where team members are located at all Nokia R&D sites and responsible for the software configuration tool Synergy/ CM (supplied by Telelogic). The candidate we are looking for is needed to help maintain and develop applications used and installed on all Nokia R&D sites. The main activities on a day to day basis is to fix problems with Perl scripts, develop and update web based applications (running under apache) and help maintain data in an Oracle database. You will be working with with a multi-national team and hence good communication skills are a must. Requirements: Good understanding of Perl (OO Perl preferable) Knowledge of Apache web servers SQL (preference given to knowledge of Oracle PL/SQL) Additional skills (good to have) Knowledge of Synergy/ CM Oracle database administration Job Requirements: The candidate we are looking for is needed to help maintain and develop applications used and installed on all Nokia R&D sites. The main activities on a day to day basis is to fix problems with Perl scripts, develop and update web based applications (running under apache) and help maintain data in an Oracle database. You will be working with with a multi-national team and hence good communication skills are a must. Requirements: Good understanding of Perl (OO Perl preferable) mod_perl AJAX Knowledge of Apache web servers SQL (preference given to knowledge of Oracle PL/SQL) Additional skills (good to have) Knowledge of Synergy/ CM Oracle database administration Std Working Week 37.5 hrs with an asap start Sincerely Christian Larder Senior Consultant _____ WA Consultants Recruitment Specialists Emblem House Pynes Hill Exeter Devon EX2 5BA Directions _____ Direct Dial: +44 (0) 1392 666072 Switchboard: +44 (0) 1392 666060 Fax: +44 (0) 1392 666061 Email: cl at waconsultants.com Web: www.waconsultants.com Disclaimer This email is confidential and intended for the individual to whom it is addressed. The views expressed are that of the author and may not necessarily constitute or imply its endorsement or recommendation by WA Consultants. If you are not the intended recipient be advised that you have read this email in error and any use of it is prohibited; please notify the sender and delete the message. WA Consultants do not warrant that any attachments are free from viruses or other defects and accept no liability for any losses resulting from infected email transmissions. WA Consultants is an Employment Business and an Employment Agency as described within The Conduct of Employment Agencies and Employment Businesses Regulations 2003. WA Consultants is a company registered in England and Wales at Emblem House, Pynes Hill, Exeter, EX2 5BA. Registration No. 2888082. ----- End forwarded message ----- -------------- next part -------------- Hi Dave Thanks for your time earlier.......as dicussed here is a copy of the requirement I have with Nokia in Farnborough. The initial requirement is for 6 months and the hourly rate is negotiable although I expect it to be between ?35-45 per hour depending on the successful candidate's experience. GSCM is a globally distributed project, where team members are located at all Nokia R&D sites and responsible for the software configuration tool Synergy/ CM (supplied by Telelogic). The candidate we are looking for is needed to help maintain and develop applications used and installed on all Nokia R&D sites. The main activities on a day to day basis is to fix problems with Perl scripts, develop and update web based applications (running under apache) and help maintain data in an Oracle database. You will be working with with a multi-national team and hence good communication skills are a must. Requirements: Good understanding of Perl (OO Perl preferable) Knowledge of Apache web servers SQL (preference given to knowledge of Oracle PL/SQL) Additional skills (good to have) Knowledge of Synergy/ CM Oracle database administration Job Requirements: The candidate we are looking for is needed to help maintain and develop applications used and installed on all Nokia R&D sites. The main activities on a day to day basis is to fix problems with Perl scripts, develop and update web based applications (running under apache) and help maintain data in an Oracle database. You will be working with with a multi-national team and hence good communication skills are a must. Requirements: Good understanding of Perl (OO Perl preferable) mod_perl AJAX Knowledge of Apache web servers SQL (preference given to knowledge of Oracle PL/SQL) Additional skills (good to have) Knowledge of Synergy/ CM Oracle database administration Std Working Week 37.5 hrs with an asap start Sincerely Christian Larder Senior Consultant _____ WA Consultants Recruitment Specialists Emblem House Pynes Hill Exeter Devon EX2 5BA Directions _____ Direct Dial: Switchboard: Fax: Email: Web: +44 (0) 1392 666072 +44 (0) 1392 666060 +44 (0) 1392 666061 cl at waconsultants.com www.waconsultants.com Disclaimer This email is confidential and intended for the individual to whom it is addressed. The views expressed are that of the author and may not necessarily constitute or imply its endorsement or recommendation by WA Consultants. 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In-Reply-To: <46EAF3AB.6030802@stumbles.org.uk> References: <46EAF3AB.6030802@stumbles.org.uk> Message-ID: <200709150927.24110.adam.trickett@iredale.net> On Friday 14 Sep 2007, John Stumbles wrote: > When editing a large Perl script it would be nice if one could jump from > a current function invocation to the function's implementation, or find > other invocations of it etc. I'm sure there are lots of other useful > things an editor that to some extent understood the code it was editing > could do. > > Are there any such beasts around? For linux platforms ... Eclipse with the EPIC plugin or ActiveState's Komodo are pretty sophisticated and understand Perl. Both VIM and Emacs have Perl modes and can be made quite smart. I must confess I use smaller scale tools because the slow start up of the full-blown IDEs puts me off. I've found Geany and Kate acceptable tradeoffs between speed and functionality, but I really should look at the bigger tools again... 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In-Reply-To: <46EAF3AB.6030802@stumbles.org.uk> References: <46EAF3AB.6030802@stumbles.org.uk> Message-ID: <20070919203807.735ba18f@workstation> On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 21:48:43 +0100 John Stumbles wrote: > When editing a large Perl script it would be nice if one could jump > from a current function invocation to the function's implementation, > or find other invocations of it etc. I'm sure there are lots of other > useful things an editor that to some extent understood the code it > was editing could do. > > Are there any such beasts around? For linux platforms ... I've seen a couple of messages for perl IDE's, my personal preference is gvim, sometimes with the perl-support plugin. However, I had an idea at the back of my mind that active state might offer something, so, have you tried the komodo IDE? I have not, but there is a trial that you might be interested in. I am surprised there is no obvious IDE written in perl that could do the job. http://www.activestate.com/openkomodo/ http://www.activestate.com/Products/komodo_ide/ -- The dirt trail to the DVD player is reporting 100% packet loss because of a trailing space in /etc/passwd. Han Solo is watching IP theater. :: http://www.s5h.net/ :: http://www.s5h.net/gpg -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/thamesvalley-pm/attachments/20070919/51d3e9c9/attachment.bin From harrypooni at gmail.com Wed Sep 19 14:23:01 2007 From: harrypooni at gmail.com (Harry Pooni) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:23:01 +0100 Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] Perlie editors? In-Reply-To: <20070919203807.735ba18f@workstation> References: <46EAF3AB.6030802@stumbles.org.uk> <20070919203807.735ba18f@workstation> Message-ID: <46F19335.8090009@gmail.com> I have looked at Komodo, the problem with that is that it replaces the standard perl debugger with one supplied by Komodo, which in my humble opinion is a no no as it's not standard perl install. ed wrote: > On Fri, 14 Sep 2007 21:48:43 +0100 > John Stumbles wrote: > > >> When editing a large Perl script it would be nice if one could jump >> from a current function invocation to the function's implementation, >> or find other invocations of it etc. I'm sure there are lots of other >> useful things an editor that to some extent understood the code it >> was editing could do. >> >> Are there any such beasts around? 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Sender does not intend to waive confidentiality or privilege. Use of this email is prohibited when received in error. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/thamesvalley-pm/attachments/20070921/639b96fe/attachment.html From adam.trickett at iredale.net Mon Sep 24 07:49:12 2007 From: adam.trickett at iredale.net (Adam Trickett) Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:49:12 +0100 Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] How about a social? In-Reply-To: <0F354FDFECA12647B75F7B154EC3828507F2FCE4@LNWEXMB58.msad.ms.com> References: <0F354FDFECA12647B75F7B154EC3828507F2FCE4@LNWEXMB58.msad.ms.com> Message-ID: <200709241549.12583.adam.trickett@iredale.net> On Friday 21 Sep 2007, Ismail, Rafiq (IT) wrote: > Given that we're between venues - I was thinking that it might be an > idea to have a social? > Iain mentioned a pub in Oxford which does GeekNights. Perhaps we could > pick this as a venue? > Friday night, about 2 weeks from now? Can't make Oxford mid-week it's just too far. I could make a technical Saturday meeting there though. > I'm hoping that if we knock heads we might be able to come up with a > regular venue for the tech nights. That would be useful. On the local LUG fronts: The SC-LUG meetings are in Reading and usually on Wednesday at the Back of Beyond Pub. The next one being 19:30 Wed 10th Oct 2007, I can get that far and I need to say hello to people there in person anyway. The next Hants-LUG meeting is in Southampton on 6 October, a bit far for most people. I can't do anything that weekend anyway - too many family commitments! The next Surrey-LUG meeting is at Surrey University in Guildford on Saturday 20th of October. They have plenty of space, and my Perl talk went down well there. Email Dominic Cleal or "john at johnwash.co.uk" for more details. I'm trying to get through to the Basingstoke Volunteer Centre, they have meeting rooms and stuff, as long as people don't mind Basingstoke. Getting some one at Oracle in Reading would be really nice, or perhaps the University to host us would be convenient for most people I think. -- Adam Trickett Overton, HANTS, UK Reality leaves a lot to the imagination. -- John Lennon From adam.trickett at iredale.net Sat Sep 29 03:05:26 2007 From: adam.trickett at iredale.net (Adam Trickett) Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 11:05:26 +0100 Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] Fwd: Announce: London Perl Workshop 2007 Message-ID: <200709291105.34687.adam.trickett@iredale.net> From the London list. This is usually well worth attending! ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Subject: Announce: London Perl Workshop 2007 Date: Friday 28 Sep 2007 From: Greg McCarroll To: "London.pm Perl M[ou]ngers" This is an early announcement. With just the facts that we know so far, I have not listed the facts I don't know or the facts I don't yet know I don't know. With this in mind. When: 1/12/2007 9:30-4.30 ish Where: Westminster University (or is that UoW), CS Department (Thanks!) What: Perl talks, some talks hopefully about other scripting languages or technologies so we all get a little more brain food. I'm going to try and push heavily for lots of lightning talks, cos I like them and so do others. I'd also encourage people who have not spoken before to consider doing such a talk, but please look up the many fine pieces of advice (someone please reply with links) or ask for help so you get the best possible response and the punters get good knowledge/entertainment. If there is something practical that you reckon would compete with a large slot of lightning talks please suggest it - e.g. a series of catalyst talks or whatever. I'm looking to find someway to give something back to the Univ. as they have been great supporters of these events, more on this soon. Price: 0 (but signup will be required - if you are intending to fly in, i'm willing to cheat for you if you send me a private message _before_ i get the signup working as numbers will be limited) We'll do the web page, call for talks, etc. etc. soon. Please, please, be patient. Also don't be offended if I ignore suggestions for features until we have speakers and attendees. G. ------------------------------------------------------- -- Adam Trickett Overton, HANTS, UK A feature is a bug with seniority. -- anon -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part. 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Name: not available Url: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/thamesvalley-pm/attachments/20070904/61a308b0/attachment.pl From mark at gensortium.com Mon Sep 10 13:14:10 2007 From: mark at gensortium.com (Mark Robson) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 20:14:10 -0000 Subject: [Thamesvalley-pm] Venue Issues In-Reply-To: <0F354FDFECA12647B75F7B154EC3828507BBD167@LNWEXMB58.msad.ms.com> References: <0F354FDFECA12647B75F7B154EC3828507A14767@LNWEXMB58.msad.ms.com> <200709101027.50877.adam.trickett@iredale.net> <0F354FDFECA12647B75F7B154EC3828507BBD167@LNWEXMB58.msad.ms.com> Message-ID: <200709102116.45353.mark@gensortium.com> On Monday 10 September 2007 10:43, Ismail, Rafiq (IT) wrote: > > There are two LUGs in the Oxford area, don't know much about them. As far as I'm aware, neither currently has regular meetings. I'm a member of OxLUG, we have pub meetings sometimes but are not well attended. > Iain Emsley has offered to talk to someone at the 'Jericho Tavern,' in > Oxford. Apparently they already hold regular tech-nights. He's also > suggested that there might be interest from the university.. "Oxford Geek Nights" has been there. Three have happened so far all of which were good. It's a good venue (basically a music venue). But Geek Nights was more of a web design / graphic design based thing, focusing largely on design topics, and buzz about "Web 2.0" sites etc. Mark