From jobs-noreply at seattleperl.org  Wed Sep  1 17:02:32 2010
From: jobs-noreply at seattleperl.org (SPUG Jobs)
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 17:02:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: SPUG: JOB: LAMP developer, contract, telecommute
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.1009011330350.16847-100000@gandalf.addnorya.net>

[This posting is different. Normally I try to edit them to fit a standard
format so they're easier to skim for people familiar with the format. This
is part of a conversation and information would be lost if I did the usual
formatting. When responding to this posting, please address both Messrs.
Partee & Egan -ed]

From: Timothy Partee <timothy.partee at gmail.com>
To: James C. Egan <james at eganattorney.com>
Cc: jobs at seattleperl.org

Required Skill Sets:
- Perl 5.x (CGI, DBI, daemons) Required
- MySQL 5.0 (InnoDB tables, Foreign Keys, Backup, Repair, Optimization)
  Required
- Telnet 3270 (t3270 and x3270 scripting/scraping) Required
- Linux Ubuntu (9.x, cron management) Desired
- Apache 2.x (SSL, .htpasswd, CGI/Perl) Desired

Contract/Perm:
- Part-Time Contract Work (Side Project)

Expected Duration and Pay Range:
- Duration is ongoing Part-Time and Maintenance
- Rate is negotiable with client (has office in downtown Seattle - Pioneer
  Square)

W-2 vs. 1099 status:
1099 Independent Contractor

   Work involves maintaining and improving existing codebase on a
series of Perl daemons and scripts which are started by crontab to
search and categorize public records data. Database fell over after a
couple years of applying band-aids to keep the DB running under severe
loads and tables with nearly 100 million records. I'm the original
developer, but a couple other developers have assisted in some of the
development. Code is 100% in Perl, some components are simple scripts,
some are daemons, some are Perl/CGI through Apache. Right now, more
than anything, the database needs to be repaired or rebuilt if
possible, knowledge of how to accomplish that is beyond my skills, I
have been working as a Windows UI developer for 8+ years now,
databases and LAMP skills are no longer in my skills inventory in any
relevant way.

   Please inquire if you need any additional details. Thanks,

- Tim Partee


On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:57 PM, James C. Egan <james at eganattorney.com> wrote:
> Dear Seattle Perl Group and Tim
>
> Tim Partee is a programmer that has developed a database program I have that
> apparently is corrupted. Apparently I need to find a LAMP developer to fix
> an immediate problem. I do not know the lingo nor the specific problem, so
> I hope my programmer Tim Partee and the Seattle Perl group can help post a
> request for help shortly. I will pay for the fix, but would hope the Perl
> group or potential programmer can speak directly with Tim (cc me on all) and
> be vetted for the assignment. The most I know about it is:
>
> Restoring from the March backup is the best bet in my mind, I should be able
> to do that relatively quickly. But it would forgo trying to repair the
> current database and saving the data that MAY be recoverable from it. To do
> that you need a database guru, which I am not. Also, considering my
> availability lately and the fact that I now live 900 miles away, you may
> want to consider finding a LAMP developer up there closer to home who can
> help you out with this stuff instead of me.
>
> Tim, I don't know how to identify the following which the Perl group wants
> for assignments:
>
> required skill-set (?)
> contract or permanent position CONTRACT?
> for contracts, expected duration and pay range (?)
> directly with company? YES IF NEEDED
> W-2 vs. 1099 status W-2
> physical location : DOWNTOWN SEATTLE
> telecommuting possible? YES OF COURSE
> company's product or service RESEARCH OF PUBLIC DATABASES
>
> Please advise at convenience. The failure of the database is going to cost
> us.
>
> James Egan
> Attorney
> ______________________________
> The Law Offices of James C. Egan
> 605 First Avenue Suite 400
> Seattle, WA 98104
> Ph: ++ (206) - 749-0441
> Cell: ++ (206) - 795-3429
> Fax: ++ (206) - 749-5888
> Web: www.eganattorney.com



From m3047 at m3047.net  Fri Sep  3 04:35:28 2010
From: m3047 at m3047.net (Fred Morris)
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2010 03:35:28 -0800
Subject: SPUG: Lawyers, oh my Re:  JOB: LAMP developer, contract, telecommute
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.21.1009011330350.16847-100000@gandalf.addnorya.net>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.21.1009011330350.16847-100000@gandalf.addnorya.net>
Message-ID: <201009030335.28705.m3047@m3047.net>

100,000,000 row tables: The problem with putting your mouth around a fire hose 
is: how do you pull it out without the stream ripping off your face? 
(WARNING: People with bodies attached are not advised to try this in the 
first place.)

InnoDB.. wow, I thought I had problems with MyISAM. BTW, you do know that 
Oracle now owns much of your (future) database codebase?

3270... wow! Nah, I do (or rather I should say "have done") the old DEC stuff. 
;-)

Now... I have had some counterintuitive experiences with my current employer 
tuning InnoDB databases which are constantly trampled into the mud. As far as 
I know, I can share those publicly.

I feel for you, barrister Eagan. However technology changes (and with it the 
practitioners, driven as they are by the need to eat... silly meat puppets), 
and successful systems have a really nasty habit of outgrowing their success. 
There's plenty of lit about these phenomena.

A track about Really Large Databases and the Data Streams That Feed Them  
might get me to attend BarCampTacoma  
http://barcamptacoma.org/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page

Just a thought...

--

Fred Morris

On Wednesday 01 September 2010 16:02, SPUG Jobs wrote:
> [...]
> Required Skill Sets:
> - Perl 5.x (CGI, DBI, daemons) Required
> - MySQL 5.0 (InnoDB tables, Foreign Keys, Backup, Repair, Optimization)
>   Required
> - Telnet 3270 (t3270 and x3270 scripting/scraping) Required
> - Linux Ubuntu (9.x, cron management) Desired
> - Apache 2.x (SSL, .htpasswd, CGI/Perl) Desired
> 
> Contract/Perm:
> - Part-Time Contract Work (Side Project)
> 
> Expected Duration and Pay Range:
> - Duration is ongoing Part-Time and Maintenance
> - Rate is negotiable with client (has office in downtown Seattle - Pioneer
>   Square)
> 
> W-2 vs. 1099 status:
> 1099 Independent Contractor
> 
>    Work involves maintaining and improving existing codebase on a
> series of Perl daemons and scripts which are started by crontab to
> search and categorize public records data. Database fell over after a
> couple years of applying band-aids to keep the DB running under severe
> loads and tables with nearly 100 million records. I'm the original
> developer, but a couple other developers have assisted in some of the
> development. Code is 100% in Perl, some components are simple scripts,
> some are daemons, some are Perl/CGI through Apache. Right now, more
> than anything, the database needs to be repaired or rebuilt if
> possible, knowledge of how to accomplish that is beyond my skills, I
> have been working as a Windows UI developer for 8+ years now,
> databases and LAMP skills are no longer in my skills inventory in any
> relevant way.
> [...]
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:57 PM, James C. Egan <james at eganattorney.com> 
wrote:
> > Dear Seattle Perl Group and Tim
> >
> > Tim Partee is a programmer that has developed a database program I have 
that
> > apparently is corrupted. Apparently I need to find a LAMP developer to fix
> > an immediate problem. I do not know the lingo nor the specific problem, so
> > I hope my programmer Tim Partee and the Seattle Perl group can help post a
> > request for help shortly. I will pay for the fix, but would hope the Perl
> > group or potential programmer can speak directly with Tim (cc me on all) 
and
> > be vetted for the assignment. The most I know about it is:
> >
> > Restoring from the March backup is the best bet in my mind, I should be 
able
> > to do that relatively quickly. But it would forgo trying to repair the
> > current database and saving the data that MAY be recoverable from it. To 
do
> > that you need a database guru, which I am not. Also, considering my
> > availability lately and the fact that I now live 900 miles away, you may
> > want to consider finding a LAMP developer up there closer to home who can
> > help you out with this stuff instead of me.
> >
> > Tim, I don't know how to identify the following which the Perl group wants
> > for assignments:
> >
> > required skill-set (?)
> > contract or permanent position CONTRACT?
> > for contracts, expected duration and pay range (?)
> > directly with company? YES IF NEEDED
> > W-2 vs. 1099 status W-2
> > physical location : DOWNTOWN SEATTLE
> > telecommuting possible? YES OF COURSE
> > company's product or service RESEARCH OF PUBLIC DATABASES
> >
> > Please advise at convenience. The failure of the database is going to cost
> > us.
> > [...]


From tmlems2000 at yahoo.com  Tue Sep  7 11:43:55 2010
From: tmlems2000 at yahoo.com (thomas lems)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 11:43:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: SPUG: TK perl
Message-ID: <876367.47215.qm@web80501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I?m new to Perl, and i used  TK Perl to create a table with five columns and 30 rows.  I was able to save the output to a text file, but I?m struggling on how to keep the data in the text file cause every time I run the script I t override the previous data.
> I believe the issue it?s in the Sub Save Data procedure.
> #!/usr/local/bin/perl -w
> 
> # Table application example
> 
> use strict;
> 
> use Tk;
> use Tk::Button;
> use Tk::Entry;
> use Tk::Frame;
> use Tk::Pane;
> 
> my $file_name = 'data.txt';
> my $data = &ReadData($file_name);
> my $rows = 5;
> my $cols = 10;
> my (@headings) = ('Jan','Feb','Mar','Apr','May','Jun','Jul','Aug','Sep','Oct','Nov','Dec');
> my (@width) = (18,30,16,15,19,14,12,13,15,19,12,17);
> #================= Tk part:
> my $mw=MainWindow->new(-title=>"Input table data");
> $mw->geometry('=700x250+120+1'); # initial window position
> #===vptk widgets definition===< DO NOT WRITE UNDER THIS LINE >===
> my $w_Frame_001 = $mw -> Scrolled ( 'Frame', -relief=>'flat', -scrollbars=>'osoe' ) -> pack(-anchor=>'n', -side=>'top', -fill=>'both', -expand=>1);
> my $w_Frame_002 = $mw -> Frame ( -relief=>'flat' ) -> pack(-anchor=>'n', -side=>'top', -fill=>'y', -expand=>1,-pady=>5);
> my $w_Button_001 = $w_Frame_002 -> Button ( -overrelief=>'raised', -relief=>'raised', -text=>'Dismiss', -compound=>'none', -command=>sub {exit}, -state=>'normal' ) -> pack( -side=>'left', -padx=>10);
> my $w_Button_002 = $w_Frame_002 -> Button ( -overrelief=>'raised', -relief=>'raised', -text=>'Save', -compound=>'none', -command=>[\&SaveData,$file_name,$data,$rows,$cols], -state=>'normal' ) -> pack( -side=>'left', -padx=>10);
> &FillTable($w_Frame_001,$data,$rows,$cols,\@headings,\@width);
> 
> MainLoop;
> 
> #===vptk end===< DO NOT CODE ABOVE THIS LINE >===
> sub ReadData {
>   my ($file_name)=@_;
>   my %data;
> 
>   return \%data unless -e $file_name;
>   open(DATA,$file_name) or die "$0 ERROR: read $file_name - $!";
>   my $i = 0;
>   while(<DATA>)
>   {
>     chomp;
>     my (@elements) = /<([^<>]*)>\s+/g;
>     for(my $j=0;$j<scalar(@elements);$j++)
>     {
>       $data{"$i,$j"} = $elements[$j];
>     }
>     $i++;
>   }
>   close DATA;
>   return \%data;
> }
> 
> sub SaveData {
>   my ($file_name,$data,$rows,$cols) = @_;
> 
>   open(DATA,">$file_name") or die "$0 ERROR: write $file_name - $!"; 
>   for (my $i=0;$i<$rows;$i++)
>   {
>     for (my $j=0;$j<$cols;$j++)
>     {
>       printf DATA ("<%s> ",$data->{"$i,$j"});
>     }
>     print DATA "\n";
>   }
>   close DATA;
>   exit;
> }
> 
> sub FillTable {
>   my ($container,$data,$rows,$cols,$headings,$width) = @_;
> 
>   for (my $j=0;$j<scalar(@$headings) && $j<$cols; $j++)
>   {
>     $container -> Label(-text=>$headings->[$j]) ->
>         grid(-row=>0, -ipady=>2, -ipadx=>2, -sticky=>'ew', -column=>$j);
>   }
>   for (my $i=0;$i<$rows;$i++)
>   {
>     for (my $j=0;$j<$cols;$j++)
>     {
>       my $Entry = $container -> 
>         Entry ( 
>           -justify=>'left', 
>           -relief=>'sunken', 
>           -validate=>'none', 
>           -state=>'normal', 
>           -width=>$width->[$j],
>           -textvariable=>\$data->{"$i,$j"} ) -> 
>         grid(-row=>$i+1, -ipady=>2, -ipadx=>2, -sticky=>'ew', -column=>$j);
>       $data->{"$i,$j"} = '' unless $data->{"$i,$j"};
>     }
>   }
> }
> Please help!
> Thanks
> 



      

From m3047 at m3047.net  Tue Sep  7 13:07:35 2010
From: m3047 at m3047.net (Fred Morris)
Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2010 12:07:35 -0800
Subject: SPUG: TK perl
In-Reply-To: <876367.47215.qm@web80501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <876367.47215.qm@web80501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <201009071207.35286.m3047@m3047.net>

On Tuesday 07 September 2010 10:43, thomas lems wrote:
> [...] how to keep the data in the text file cause every time I run the
> script I t override the previous data.
> > [...]
> >   open(DATA,">$file_name") or die "$0 ERROR: write $file_name - $!"; 

open(DATA,">>$file_name") or die "$0 ERROR: write $file_name - $!"; 


HTH!

--

Fred Morris

From jay at scherrer.com  Tue Sep  7 13:21:38 2010
From: jay at scherrer.com (Jay Scherrer)
Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2010 13:21:38 -0700
Subject: SPUG: TK perl
In-Reply-To: <876367.47215.qm@web80501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <876367.47215.qm@web80501.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4C869ED2.9060105@scherrer.com>

  Your problem is in the following line:

  open(DATA,">$file_name") or die "$0 ERROR: write $file_name - $!";

You are opening the file but if it exists everything will be erased.
Instead open the file for both reading and writing with:

  open(DATA,"+<$file_name") or die "$0 ERROR: write $file_name - $!";

Jay Scherrer



On 09/07/2010 11:43 AM, thomas lems wrote:
>   open(DATA,">$file_name") or die "$0 ERROR: write $file_name - $!";


From vaticide at gmail.com  Mon Sep 13 20:36:22 2010
From: vaticide at gmail.com (Bryce Baril)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:36:22 -0700
Subject: SPUG: September Meeting?
Message-ID: <AANLkTikzuDkjt2CCQWbTNe3heLY6QowHVa3_Uc7THHQ9@mail.gmail.com>

Are there already plans in place for a September meeting?

If not, I volunteer to put something together to end the meeting drought.

-Bryce

From andrew at sweger.net  Mon Sep 13 20:54:57 2010
From: andrew at sweger.net (Andrew Sweger)
Date: Mon, 13 Sep 2010 20:54:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: SPUG: September Meeting?
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikzuDkjt2CCQWbTNe3heLY6QowHVa3_Uc7THHQ9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.1009132045440.16847-100000@gandalf.addnorya.net>

No. And I'm in fail mode as far as having a hand on the tiller or anything
(the ship is in irons, as they say). Maybe I should have said something
sooner. Fail mode FTW. Anything you do will help.

On Mon, 13 Sep 2010, Bryce Baril wrote:

> Are there already plans in place for a September meeting?
> 
> If not, I volunteer to put something together to end the meeting drought.
> 
> -Bryce
> _____________________________________________________________
> Seattle Perl Users Group Mailing List
>      POST TO: spug-list at pm.org
> SUBSCRIPTION: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/spug-list
>     MEETINGS: 3rd Tuesdays
>     WEB PAGE: http://seattleperl.org/
> 

-- 
Andrew B. Sweger -- The great thing about multitasking is that several
                                things can go wrong at once.


From jobs-noreply at seattleperl.org  Thu Sep 16 09:22:20 2010
From: jobs-noreply at seattleperl.org (SPUG Jobs)
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:22:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: SPUG: JOB: OO Perl Programmer, Belmont, CA
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.1009160918180.16847-100000@gandalf.addnorya.net>

CONTACT:
Angelo Caruana 
Creative Direction Recruiting
Tel #: (408) 266-3999
www.cdrecruiting.com 
www.linkedin.com/in/angelocaruana 

Sr. Software Engineer/Developer

Permanent/Full-time position - Must be US Citizens

Location: Belmont, CA (Bay Area)- Some telecommuting possible after a time
but employee to reside in the Bay Area

Salary: $120K - $125K + relocation assistance + stock options
Benefits: Comprehensive benefits package (medical/dental/vision, 2 weeks
vacation, stock options, etc). Benefits begin on day 1 of employment.

Our Client

Founded in 2003, our client is seeking a highly motivated Senior Software
Engineer/Developer who has significant experience designing and implementing
complex applications (OO Perl). Our client provides Strategic On-Demand
Billing Solutions for Marketing and Sales (online merchants). They support
online merchants across multiple business models, from subscriptions to
microtransactions, and focus on maximizing customer acquisition and retention
through a secure, scalable infrastructure. Products include: Subscription
Billing - Fraud Management - CashBox - ChargeBox - Client Services.

Responsibilities:

 - Write robust production-ready server-side code for web-based
   applications and develop prototypes quickly - all in Object Oriented
   Perl. Design and plan the implementation, including documenting and
   presenting that design

 - Coordinate with business product managers and client services to
   validate and maintain project requirements

 - Develop and execute unit tests, then interact with QA department to
   coordinate testing activities

 - Estimate and meet timelines for development releases

 - Lead small teams of engineers on larger projects as needed

 - Proactively participate in maintaining team standards and best
   practices

 - You will be responsible for the writing server-side code with
   occasional front-end responsibilities.

 - You will recommend and implement changes to the software that will
   enable us to optimize, scale and grow.


Requirements:

 - MUST HAVE 10+ years of development experience in designing and
   delivering complex, large-volume, diverse system applications

 - Extensive experience with Object Oriented Programming (Perl in
   particular), Oracle, SQL, Linux and/or Unix derivatives

 - Solid knowledge of development methodologies and project life cycles

 - Strong analytical skills

 - Excellent interpersonal and communication skills

CONTACT:
Angelo Caruana 
Creative Direction Recruiting
Tel #: (408) 266-3999
www.cdrecruiting.com 
www.linkedin.com/in/angelocaruana


From mark_swayne at charter.net  Sun Sep 19 21:25:35 2010
From: mark_swayne at charter.net (Mark Swayne)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 21:25:35 -0700
Subject: SPUG: Meeting this month?
Message-ID: <8948B734-E868-4E1E-AE61-97F2B4332D7C@charter.net>

Is there going to be a meeting this month?

I haven't seen anything about one.

I am planning to be in the Seattle area this week, and I may extend my stay to attend if there is going to be a meeting.

--Mark Swayne

From vaticide at gmail.com  Sun Sep 19 21:28:07 2010
From: vaticide at gmail.com (Bryce Baril)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 21:28:07 -0700
Subject: SPUG: Meeting this month?
In-Reply-To: <8948B734-E868-4E1E-AE61-97F2B4332D7C@charter.net>
References: <8948B734-E868-4E1E-AE61-97F2B4332D7C@charter.net>
Message-ID: <AANLkTimsOhuK9VVZ8XwN+VNYiRe0_dNBpHXiMfB-FsC1@mail.gmail.com>

Yes -- I am preparing as we speak. I'll send out an email tonight.

On Sep 19, 2010 9:26 PM, "Mark Swayne" <mark_swayne at charter.net> wrote:
> Is there going to be a meeting this month?
>
> I haven't seen anything about one.
>
> I am planning to be in the Seattle area this week, and I may extend my
stay to attend if there is going to be a meeting.
>
> --Mark Swayne
> _____________________________________________________________
> Seattle Perl Users Group Mailing List
> POST TO: spug-list at pm.org
> SUBSCRIPTION: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/spug-list
> MEETINGS: 3rd Tuesdays
> WEB PAGE: http://seattleperl.org/
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From vaticide at gmail.com  Sun Sep 19 23:16:27 2010
From: vaticide at gmail.com (Bryce Baril)
Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2010 23:16:27 -0700
Subject: SPUG: September 2010 Meeting Announcement
Message-ID: <AANLkTinazzLRWnGfc_D=OJ4UFjnttioiDpWx1LjhnW_z@mail.gmail.com>

   September 2010 Seattle Perl Users Group (SPUG) Meeting
   ====================================================

   Topic: SPUG Perl Bake-Off
   Officiator: Bryce Baril
   Meeting Date: Tuesday, 21 September 2010
   Meeting Time: 6:30 - 8:30+ p.m.
   Location: Marchex - 520 Pike Street
      - Note: Our normal conference room is not available.  I am
working on finding us another room in the same building -- most likely
on the 20th floor.

   Cost: Admission is free and open to the public
   Food/Drink: Sorry, no food this time, but soda will be provided.
   Info: http://seattleperl.org/

=== DETAILS ===

SPUG, I challenge* you all to a live coding contest at the next SPUG meeting.

Yes, there will be prizes.

This contest is open to those of any skill level.  Don't be
intimidated -- if you think you'll need help we'll pair you with
someone who can provide some expertise.

One of my main goals with this experiment is mentoring.  I am really
hoping those of you who consider yourselves new to or rusty with Perl
to come and learn some new tricks, maybe a little "Modern" Perl from
some of our seasoned regulars.

Likewise if someone is planning on trying something interesting you
want to learn more about (e.g. Perl 6, MooseX::Declare, etc.) you can
try and team up with that person.

The rules of the contest will be this:

* Teams of 2(ish)
* The contest will be writing simple clients to play a game
* Your code will compete in the game directly against the other
participants to determine the winner
* Full details to be released at the start of the meeting
* It will use a simple web API
* Someone on your team will need a laptop (I will provide wireless best I can)
* No cheating


The team size (soft) max is 2 because I don't want to buy that many prizes.

The contest I've chosen is purposefully simple in order to try and
make it possible to create working entries with enough time to run the
tournament and present prizes at the end of the meeting.


Pre-Meeting
===========

If you are so inclined, please come to the pre-meeting at the nearby
Elephant & Castle pub on 5th & Union (see map link below). Come enjoy some
friendly conversation and perhaps a favorite beverage (they have a full
restaurant too). We can usually be found at the back under the TV near the
rear entrance that goes up into the hotel (if you enter through the front
doors, just go straight back past the bar). We'll be there from 5:00 pm to
6:19 pm.

Meeting Location
================

Marchex
520 Pike Street, Suite 1800
Seattle, WA  98101

The building is just East of Westlake Center. Enter from Pike Street.

 http://xrl.us/spugmap

Due to all of the shopping around us there is plenty of parking available
in garages, but it can be hard to find street parking in the evening.
There is also a parking garage in the building, but check the rates and
closing time (subject to change due to downtown events)!

Attendees will need to wait near the elevators in the lobby and a Marchex
employee will provide access to the 18th floor where the meeting room is
located. If no one shows up to let you in, call (425) 533-2964 to let them
know you're in the lobby.

Good Luck!
-Bryce


* I will be officiating, not participating.  I am writing the contest
server, after all.

From rick.croote at philips.com  Tue Sep 21 11:30:58 2010
From: rick.croote at philips.com (Croote, Rick)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 20:30:58 +0200
Subject: SPUG: September 2010 Meeting Announcement
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinazzLRWnGfc_D=OJ4UFjnttioiDpWx1LjhnW_z@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTinazzLRWnGfc_D=OJ4UFjnttioiDpWx1LjhnW_z@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6A00D845EC61DF46810F2D5BCB5F6E0465B23EB69E@NLCLUEXM06.connect1.local>

Interesting.   I believe my laptop has Perl 5.8.9 (work PC, and the version used there).  Is there some specific environment/Perl requirements to play this game?

-----Original Message-----
From: spug-list-bounces+rick.croote=philips.com at pm.org [mailto:spug-list-bounces+rick.croote=philips.com at pm.org] On Behalf Of Bryce Baril
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 11:16 PM
To: spug-list at pm.org
Subject: SPUG: September 2010 Meeting Announcement

   September 2010 Seattle Perl Users Group (SPUG) Meeting
   ====================================================

   Topic: SPUG Perl Bake-Off
   Officiator: Bryce Baril
   Meeting Date: Tuesday, 21 September 2010
   Meeting Time: 6:30 - 8:30+ p.m.
   Location: Marchex - 520 Pike Street
      - Note: Our normal conference room is not available.  I am
working on finding us another room in the same building -- most likely
on the 20th floor.

   Cost: Admission is free and open to the public
   Food/Drink: Sorry, no food this time, but soda will be provided.
   Info: http://seattleperl.org/

=== DETAILS ===

SPUG, I challenge* you all to a live coding contest at the next SPUG meeting.

Yes, there will be prizes.

This contest is open to those of any skill level.  Don't be
intimidated -- if you think you'll need help we'll pair you with
someone who can provide some expertise.

One of my main goals with this experiment is mentoring.  I am really
hoping those of you who consider yourselves new to or rusty with Perl
to come and learn some new tricks, maybe a little "Modern" Perl from
some of our seasoned regulars.

Likewise if someone is planning on trying something interesting you
want to learn more about (e.g. Perl 6, MooseX::Declare, etc.) you can
try and team up with that person.

The rules of the contest will be this:

* Teams of 2(ish)
* The contest will be writing simple clients to play a game
* Your code will compete in the game directly against the other
participants to determine the winner
* Full details to be released at the start of the meeting
* It will use a simple web API
* Someone on your team will need a laptop (I will provide wireless best I can)
* No cheating


The team size (soft) max is 2 because I don't want to buy that many prizes.

The contest I've chosen is purposefully simple in order to try and
make it possible to create working entries with enough time to run the
tournament and present prizes at the end of the meeting.


Pre-Meeting
===========

If you are so inclined, please come to the pre-meeting at the nearby
Elephant & Castle pub on 5th & Union (see map link below). Come enjoy some
friendly conversation and perhaps a favorite beverage (they have a full
restaurant too). We can usually be found at the back under the TV near the
rear entrance that goes up into the hotel (if you enter through the front
doors, just go straight back past the bar). We'll be there from 5:00 pm to
6:19 pm.

Meeting Location
================

Marchex
520 Pike Street, Suite 1800
Seattle, WA  98101

The building is just East of Westlake Center. Enter from Pike Street.

 http://xrl.us/spugmap

Due to all of the shopping around us there is plenty of parking available
in garages, but it can be hard to find street parking in the evening.
There is also a parking garage in the building, but check the rates and
closing time (subject to change due to downtown events)!

Attendees will need to wait near the elevators in the lobby and a Marchex
employee will provide access to the 18th floor where the meeting room is
located. If no one shows up to let you in, call (425) 533-2964 to let them
know you're in the lobby.

Good Luck!
-Bryce


* I will be officiating, not participating.  I am writing the contest
server, after all.
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From vaticide at gmail.com  Tue Sep 21 11:47:02 2010
From: vaticide at gmail.com (Bryce Baril)
Date: Tue, 21 Sep 2010 11:47:02 -0700
Subject: SPUG: September 2010 Meeting Announcement
In-Reply-To: <6A00D845EC61DF46810F2D5BCB5F6E0465B23EB69E@NLCLUEXM06.connect1.local>
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Any perl should work. The client will run on your system and talk to a
server via json over HTTP

-Bryce

On Sep 21, 2010 11:31 AM, "Croote, Rick" <rick.croote at philips.com> wrote:
> Interesting. I believe my laptop has Perl 5.8.9 (work PC, and the version
used there). Is there some specific environment/Perl requirements to play
this game?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: spug-list-bounces+rick.croote=philips.com at pm.org [mailto:
spug-list-bounces+rick.croote <spug-list-bounces%2Brick.croote>=philips.com@
pm.org] On Behalf Of Bryce Baril
> Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 11:16 PM
> To: spug-list at pm.org
> Subject: SPUG: September 2010 Meeting Announcement
>
> September 2010 Seattle Perl Users Group (SPUG) Meeting
> ====================================================
>
> Topic: SPUG Perl Bake-Off
> Officiator: Bryce Baril
> Meeting Date: Tuesday, 21 September 2010
> Meeting Time: 6:30 - 8:30+ p.m.
> Location: Marchex - 520 Pike Street
> - Note: Our normal conference room is not available. I am
> working on finding us another room in the same building -- most likely
> on the 20th floor.
>
> Cost: Admission is free and open to the public
> Food/Drink: Sorry, no food this time, but soda will be provided.
> Info: http://seattleperl.org/
>
> === DETAILS ===
>
> SPUG, I challenge* you all to a live coding contest at the next SPUG
meeting.
>
> Yes, there will be prizes.
>
> This contest is open to those of any skill level. Don't be
> intimidated -- if you think you'll need help we'll pair you with
> someone who can provide some expertise.
>
> One of my main goals with this experiment is mentoring. I am really
> hoping those of you who consider yourselves new to or rusty with Perl
> to come and learn some new tricks, maybe a little "Modern" Perl from
> some of our seasoned regulars.
>
> Likewise if someone is planning on trying something interesting you
> want to learn more about (e.g. Perl 6, MooseX::Declare, etc.) you can
> try and team up with that person.
>
> The rules of the contest will be this:
>
> * Teams of 2(ish)
> * The contest will be writing simple clients to play a game
> * Your code will compete in the game directly against the other
> participants to determine the winner
> * Full details to be released at the start of the meeting
> * It will use a simple web API
> * Someone on your team will need a laptop (I will provide wireless best I
can)
> * No cheating
>
>
> The team size (soft) max is 2 because I don't want to buy that many
prizes.
>
> The contest I've chosen is purposefully simple in order to try and
> make it possible to create working entries with enough time to run the
> tournament and present prizes at the end of the meeting.
>
>
> Pre-Meeting
> ===========
>
> If you are so inclined, please come to the pre-meeting at the nearby
> Elephant & Castle pub on 5th & Union (see map link below). Come enjoy some
> friendly conversation and perhaps a favorite beverage (they have a full
> restaurant too). We can usually be found at the back under the TV near the
> rear entrance that goes up into the hotel (if you enter through the front
> doors, just go straight back past the bar). We'll be there from 5:00 pm to
> 6:19 pm.
>
> Meeting Location
> ================
>
> Marchex
> 520 Pike Street, Suite 1800
> Seattle, WA 98101
>
> The building is just East of Westlake Center. Enter from Pike Street.
>
> http://xrl.us/spugmap
>
> Due to all of the shopping around us there is plenty of parking available
> in garages, but it can be hard to find street parking in the evening.
> There is also a parking garage in the building, but check the rates and
> closing time (subject to change due to downtown events)!
>
> Attendees will need to wait near the elevators in the lobby and a Marchex
> employee will provide access to the 18th floor where the meeting room is
> located. If no one shows up to let you in, call (425) 533-2964 to let them
> know you're in the lobby.
>
> Good Luck!
> -Bryce
>
>
> * I will be officiating, not participating. I am writing the contest
> server, after all.
> _____________________________________________________________
> Seattle Perl Users Group Mailing List
> POST TO: spug-list at pm.org
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From twists at gmail.com  Wed Sep 22 07:04:56 2010
From: twists at gmail.com (Joshua ben Jore)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 07:04:56 -0700
Subject: SPUG: September 2010 Meeting Announcement
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinazzLRWnGfc_D=OJ4UFjnttioiDpWx1LjhnW_z@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sun, Sep 19, 2010 at 11:16 PM, Bryce Baril <vaticide at gmail.com> wrote:
> ? September 2010 Seattle Perl Users Group (SPUG) Meeting
> ? ====================================================
>
> ? Topic: SPUG Perl Bake-Off
> ? Officiator: Bryce Baril
> ? Meeting Date: Tuesday, 21 September 2010
> ? Meeting Time: 6:30 - 8:30+ p.m.
> ? Location: Marchex - 520 Pike Street
> ? ? ?- Note: Our normal conference room is not available. ?I am
> working on finding us another room in the same building -- most likely
> on the 20th floor.

This sounded like fun. I couldn't be there. I obviously can't win
anything but could you tell the list about the contest and its
results?

Josh

From jon at hogue.org  Wed Sep 22 07:18:47 2010
From: jon at hogue.org (Jonathan Hogue)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 10:18:47 -0400
Subject: SPUG: September 2010 Meeting Announcement
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTin1=RBpTHWgsXKVLiiO-DfUmj-y0Mqhf3XKtC3S@mail.gmail.com>
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On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Joshua ben Jore <twists at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This sounded like fun. I couldn't be there. I obviously can't win
> anything but could you tell the list about the contest and its
> results?
>
> Josh
>
>
How did it go?

I'm thinking about doing something similar in Columbus PM with this game:
http://www.weewar.com/
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From vaticide at gmail.com  Wed Sep 22 22:56:40 2010
From: vaticide at gmail.com (Bryce Baril)
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2010 22:56:40 -0700
Subject: SPUG: September 2010 Meeting Announcement
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinSqvOhaV-QN=GXH3gax4mif5HaDw+L-+2fegXw@mail.gmail.com>
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	<AANLkTin1=RBpTHWgsXKVLiiO-DfUmj-y0Mqhf3XKtC3S@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTinSqvOhaV-QN=GXH3gax4mif5HaDw+L-+2fegXw@mail.gmail.com>
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It went pretty well -- it certainly suffered from some first try bugs,
but we all had fun.

The contest was duelling cannons.  Each player was a fixed cannon
somewhere on a 1000 meter linear playing field.

They knew their own position, but not their opponents.  Each turn they
could provide an angle and a power.  If they hit they would get
information on where it landed and if it did any damage to the
opponent or themselves.

The task was to build the client that would register itself for a
tournament, request status, and if it was their turn, fire.

Things I will do differently next time:
1. Provide the reference client immediately and suggest people start
with that.  While that part was interesting and an opportunity for
learning for some contestants who had never used anything like a REST
protocol or JSON, it added unnecessary complexity to the problem.
With a reference client they could focus on the logic of search and
destroy.

2. Simplify the registration.  I had included an overly-robust
security layer on the game which caused issues.  Players were assigned
session-based tokens for each tournament, but due to the quick coding
time, clients would crash and lose their token info.  Rather than
session based, I am leaning towards one-time registration to get a
permanent token.

3. More prep time.  There were a couple bugs with the server, and I
had to do some major late night crunch work a few nights in a row to
get it ready in time for the meeting.

4. Reuse my tournament management server.  The overhead of registering
clients, managing turns, brackets, status, and leaderboards is 99% of
the code.  The actual cannon-specific logic is miniscule.  Hopefully
that will enable me to do more competitions in the future without
quite as much prep time.

5. Simple is good.  The goal in this game was pretty simple.  It still
took from about 6:30 to 9:30 to get everyone ready to compete.  If I
decide to do any more interesting problems, they will be take home and
compete at SPUG.

6. Easier testing for the clients.  Partway through the competition I
added a testfire method.  This helped people quite a bit.  The
overhead for creating test matches against yourself was still a manual
process by me, though.  In the future I'll plug increased ability for
people to test as they build.

As for the results, we didn't actually succeed in running the full
tournament.  Laptop batteries died, clients kept crashing, and it was
too late to try and salvage things.  In the end we walked through
examining everyone's implementations and I picked the winners based on
completeness of implementation.  It was really hard and a very close
call.  I was really counting on the tournament to pick the winner.

Turnout was fairly low, possibly due to the long break between SPUG
meetings, but that wasn't necessarily bad.  It made it easier for me
to help people out.

In the end, team "And Elbows" of Mark and Josh were awarded the
trophies.  (Yes, there were trophies)  They managed to net a win in
the trophy when their opponent suicided.

Team "rcroot" was also a great implementation, with a team of just
Rick.  He not only managed a working implementation, but it was OO
Perl.  He had a very compelling argument for receiving a trophy too,
and if I had another I probably would have also awarded him.  He also
managed to net a win in the competition when my entry (the reference
client) killed itself.

Team "imadeamarshmallow" of Dave and Auggy won the "square root of a
negative number" prize, and was the only team (so far as I saw) who
used version control.

Finally, team "sameteam!sameteam!" another solo competitor (sorry! I
forgot your name :( ) had a very creative entry.  He created a web
interface using jQuery that used Ajax to poll the server for when it
was his turn and allowed him to enter his moves to play manually
against the other team's AIs.

If I can catch up on some sleep, I'll patch up the server and send out
the API specifications so people can play around with it, if you like.

It was also a lot of fun for me, and I definitely plan on doing it again.

Thanks!
-Bryce

On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 7:18 AM, Jonathan Hogue <jon at hogue.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Joshua ben Jore <twists at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> This sounded like fun. I couldn't be there. I obviously can't win
>> anything but could you tell the list about the contest and its
>> results?
>>
>> Josh
>>
>
> How did it go?
> I'm thinking about doing something similar in Columbus PM with this
> game:?http://www.weewar.com/
> _____________________________________________________________
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> ? ? POST TO: spug-list at pm.org
> SUBSCRIPTION: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/spug-list
> ? ?MEETINGS: 3rd Tuesdays
> ? ?WEB PAGE: http://seattleperl.org/
>

From mark_swayne at charter.net  Thu Sep 23 10:02:24 2010
From: mark_swayne at charter.net (Mark Swayne)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:02:24 -0700
Subject: SPUG: September 2010 Meeting Announcement
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=RZ0OrPuuQft=P=oFVVzrsZ9z3UhFe1ABPPwh7@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <1285261344.7538.21.camel@tiny>

On Wed, 2010-09-22 at 22:56 -0700, Bryce Baril wrote:
> It went pretty well -- it certainly suffered from some first try bugs,
> but we all had fun.
> 
> The contest was duelling cannons.  Each player was a fixed cannon
> somewhere on a 1000 meter linear playing field.

Bryce, thanks for hosting this event.  I enjoyed the challenge, and I
think everyone else did too.

As you mention I worked with Josh Juran on the team "And Elbows". After
a quick chat about a firing strategy, we divided the work.  I focused on
the client implementation while Josh put together the firing logic.

I've attached our code, uncleaned and (at least in my case) somewhat
ugly.

The client worked as intended, but I wrote it to terminate after one
game, so I kludged in a hardcoded set of credentials so I could rejoin
the tournament.

For future tournaments, I like the idea of a standard client library
that would allow teams to focus on the primary task.

Once again, thanks to Bryce and to everyone who showed up.  I had a good
time and look forward to future meetings.

--Mark Swayne



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From jobs-noreply at seattleperl.org  Thu Sep 23 12:50:06 2010
From: jobs-noreply at seattleperl.org (SPUG Jobs)
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:50:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: SPUG: JOB: 12 month (Mason) contract, Kirkland
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.1009231237200.16847-100000@gandalf.addnorya.net>

Required skill-set

 - Perl (DBI, Mason), Subversion, Linux

Contract or permanent position

 - Contract

For contracts, expected duration and pay range

 - Duration: 12 Months
 - Pay: Unfortunately, I don't know the exact rate, but it will be competitive
   to the local market and negotiable based on skill-set.

For permanent positions, availability of stock options or other incentive plans

 - N/A

Placement through recruiter, or directly with company?

 - Directly with company
 
W-2 vs. 1099 status

 - 1099

Any restrictions on 1099 status: Corporation, etc.?

 - None known

Physical location

 - 747 6th Street South, Kirkland

Telecommuting possible?

 - No

Company's product or service (e.g., e-commerce, grocery shopping,
nuclear weapons, pornography, etc.)

 - Ad management website

For questions or to apply for this position, please contact:

Josh McAdams
joshua.mcadams at gmail.com
312.285.0803


From cmeyer at helvella.org  Mon Sep 27 14:43:23 2010
From: cmeyer at helvella.org (Colin Meyer)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 14:43:23 -0700
Subject: SPUG: facebook group
Message-ID: <AANLkTimBBK=rP9Y9zhahOVjt7HXtYi4D24qrpPB_m5iO@mail.gmail.com>

Hi folks,

I've made a facebook group for SPUGger social network dorks. Find it at:

  http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=137930522919794

Have fun,
-Colin.
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From jd at commandprompt.com  Mon Sep 27 14:45:41 2010
From: jd at commandprompt.com (Joshua D. Drake)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 14:45:41 -0700
Subject: SPUG: facebook group
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimBBK=rP9Y9zhahOVjt7HXtYi4D24qrpPB_m5iO@mail.gmail.com>
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On Mon, 2010-09-27 at 14:43 -0700, Colin Meyer wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> I've made a facebook group for SPUGger social network dorks. Find it
> at:
> 
>   http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=137930522919794
> 

You are so positive.



> Have fun,
> -Colin.
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From cjac at colliertech.org  Mon Sep 27 15:55:19 2010
From: cjac at colliertech.org (C.J. Adams-Collier KF7BMP)
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 15:55:19 -0700
Subject: SPUG: [Gslug-general] Unix scripting fundamentals courses or
	training
In-Reply-To: <6dd8a9b5-b03f-4df1-b3d9-7fbb4fe427c8@t5g2000prd.googlegroups.com>
References: <6dd8a9b5-b03f-4df1-b3d9-7fbb4fe427c8@t5g2000prd.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <1285628119.5235.509.camel@calcifer.loc.colliertech.org>

I attended an introductory course on unix at EdCC in 1998 and found it
informative.  My friend Erin (cc'd) also took the perl course the same
quarter and can tell you whether she found it useful or not.

But that was a while ago, so I can't say whether the current offerings
are good.

I also enjoyed the presentations given by Tim Maher at various SPUG
meetings.  He runs a company that does training, and I'd highly
recommend him as well.  Grab his book.  I reviewed chapter 3 :)

http://teachmeperl.com/
http://minimalperl.com/

I hope this helps,

C.J.


On Mon, 2010-09-27 at 15:19 -0700, Tyler wrote:

> Hi GSLUG, my first post here after years of lurking off and on.
> 
> I am looking for a local course or some sort of training program I can
> send an employee to in hopes that they come back with some basic Unix
> scripting fundamentals. I browsed the course offerings for UW
> extension, SCCC, and BCCC, and didn't see anything that was as
> specific as I want it to be. Something in shell (Bash probably) or
> Perl or Python or maybe even trying to build scripting fundamentals in
> a more web orientated way like PHP or Ruby is an option. The
> requirements are pretty loose as long as it's done at a *nix prompt
> with vim or so :)
> 
> My first reaction to being asked to look into this was to offer a book
> and a project, but we have the opportunity to do something a little
> more formal so we might as well see what's out there.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Tyler
> 


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From tim at consultix-inc.com  Tue Sep 28 08:22:33 2010
From: tim at consultix-inc.com (Tim Maher)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 08:22:33 -0700
Subject: SPUG: [Gslug-general] Unix scripting fundamentals courses or
	training
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	<1285628119.5235.509.camel@calcifer.loc.colliertech.org>
Message-ID: <20100928152233.GA25051@jumpy.consultix-inc.com>

On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 03:55:19PM -0700, C.J. Adams-Collier KF7BMP wrote:
> 
> I also enjoyed the presentations given by Tim Maher at various SPUG
> meetings.  He runs a company that does training, and I'd highly
> recommend him as well.  Grab his book.  I reviewed chapter 3 :)
> 
> http://teachmeperl.com/
> http://minimalperl.com/
> 
> I hope this helps,
> C.J.

Thanks for the kind words, CJ!

Here's our latest schedule of public classes in the Seattle area,
followed by our latest announcement to our customers:

          TITLE               DATES   Days
   Shell Programming        10/25-10/27  3
   UNIX/Linux Utilities     10/28-10/29  2
   Perl Programming         11/15-11/17  3
   Using Perl Modules       11/18        1
   UNIX/Linux Fundamentals  11/29-12/02  4
   Intermediate Perl        12/07-12/09  3
   Adv. Shell Programming   12/13-12/16  4
   
  ****************************************************************
From: Tim Maher, Consultix 
  Re: Contract Programming and Tutoring

New Service: CONTRACT PROGRAMMING 

What should an IT manager do when all staff programmers are
already overworked, but a team /really/ needs to have an existing
program modified *right away*, or to have a critical new program written
from scratch ASAP? A practical option can be to subcontract the
software development work to an outside expert.

That's where we come in, because Consultix has highly qualified
programmers with decades of experience available to help you.

Our areas of expertise include the UNIX/Linux utility programs, the
Perl language, the Bourne, Korn, Bash, and POSIX shell languages,
and popular tools such as mySQL, Perl's CGI module, and the
Template Toolkit.

So whether you need to modify a *grep* or *sed* command that has a
seemingly incomprehensible wild-card pattern, convert an ancient AWK
program to Perl, port a Shell script from UNIX to Linux, add new
features to a CGI script, or create a UNIX/Linux Shell script from
scratch, we can help.

See http://consultix-inc.com/contract_programming.html for details on
this service.

TUTORING SERVICE

In cases where it's not practical for corporate employees to attend
multiple consecutive full days of off-site training, or to wait a month
for the next scheduled public class for the training you need, we can
help! Specifically, we can provide any of our standard classes to
groups as small as /one person/ on your schedule, at your location,
using our Tutoring service!

So consider joining organizations such as the City of Seattle,
International Paper, AT&T, and Research in Motion in using this
increasingly popular training service from Consultix.

See http://consultix-inc.com/tutoring.html for details.


CLASS REQUESTS

As always, let us know which classes you're interested in and we'll do
our best to put them on our schedule at a time convenient for you! Or
call to discuss the possibility of an on-site class at your location.

See http://consultix-inc.com/courses for our complete list of courses.

The Fall class schedule follows below.

Best wishes,
-Tim Maher
(206) 781-8649

                 CONSULTIX ON-LINE RESOURCES
General Information:
        http://www.consultix-inc.com

Public Training Classes:
        http://www.consultix-inc.com/sched.html

On-Site Training:
        http://www.consultix-inc.com/on-site.html

Tutoring:
        http://www.consultix-inc.com/tutoring.html

Contract Programming:
        http://www.consultix-inc.com/contract_programming.html

Course Listings:
        Perl,       http://teachmeperl.com/perllist.html
        UNIX/Shell, http://teachmeunix.com/unixlist.html

Registration and Pricing: http://consultix-inc.com/register.html
  Instructor Evaluations: http://consultix-inc.com/evals.html
      Course Evaluations: http://consultix-inc.com/course_evals.html

*----------------------------------------------------------------------*
|    Tim Maher, PhD  (206) 781-UNIX    http://www.consultix-inc.com    |
|     tim at ( TeachMePerl, TeachMeLinux, or TeachMeUnix ) dot Com     |
*-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-
|  > "Minimal Perl for UNIX People" has been an Amazon Best Seller! <  |
|  * Download chapters, read reviews, and order at: MinimalPerl.com *  |
*----------------------------------------------------------------------*

From MichaelRWolf at att.net  Tue Sep 28 09:52:01 2010
From: MichaelRWolf at att.net (Michael R. Wolf)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 09:52:01 -0700
Subject: SPUG: facebook group
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTimBBK=rP9Y9zhahOVjt7HXtYi4D24qrpPB_m5iO@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AANLkTimBBK=rP9Y9zhahOVjt7HXtYi4D24qrpPB_m5iO@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9EF778B5-FD21-4D4A-8A07-9FD6B7EC9A73@att.net>

On Sep 27, 2010, at 2:43 PM, Colin Meyer wrote:
> I've made a facebook group for SPUGger social network dorks. Find it at:

Thanks Colin.

Back in July, I traded emails with Andy about a SPUG group for *LinkedIn*, bud didn't move it forward.  I was triggered by noticing that  there was Perl Monger (general) group as well as (sub-)groups for various mongerhoods (Boston, Israel, St Louis, Atlanta...).

Although I hate to duplicate the maintenance efforts by doubling the social networking sites, I've heard that some folks use LinkedIn as a *professional* site and Facebook as a *social* site.  Since SPUG is *both* social and professional -- unlike drinking-only mongerhoods (you know who you are) -- perhaps TMTOWTDI.

What do folks think about having a SPUG group on LinkedIn?

Michael

-- 
Michael R. Wolf
    All mammals learn by playing!
        MichaelRWolf at att.net



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From cjac at colliertech.org  Tue Sep 28 10:01:15 2010
From: cjac at colliertech.org (C.J. Adams-Collier KF7BMP)
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 2010 10:01:15 -0700
Subject: SPUG: facebook group
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Dooooo Eeeeet!  Go Michael!

On Tue, 2010-09-28 at 09:52 -0700, Michael R. Wolf wrote:
> 
> On Sep 27, 2010, at 2:43 PM, Colin Meyer wrote:
> > I've made a facebook group for SPUGger social network dorks. Find it
> > at:
> 
> 
> Thanks Colin.
> 
> 
> Back in July, I traded emails with Andy about a SPUG group for
> *LinkedIn*, bud didn't move it forward.  I was triggered by noticing
> that  there was Perl Monger (general) group as well as (sub-)groups
> for various mongerhoods (Boston, Israel, St Louis, Atlanta...).
> 
> 
> Although I hate to duplicate the maintenance efforts by doubling the
> social networking sites, I've heard that some folks use LinkedIn as a
> *professional* site and Facebook as a *social* site.  Since SPUG is
> *both* social and professional -- unlike drinking-only mongerhoods
> (you know who you are) -- perhaps TMTOWTDI.
> 
> 
> What do folks think about having a SPUG group on LinkedIn?
> 
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> -- 
> Michael R. Wolf
>     All mammals learn by playing!
>         MichaelRWolf at att.net
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From MichaelRWolf at att.net  Wed Sep 29 18:11:07 2010
From: MichaelRWolf at att.net (Michael R. Wolf)
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 18:11:07 -0700
Subject: SPUG: LinkedIn group
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On Sep 27, 2010, at 2:43 PM, Colin Meyer wrote:

> I've made a facebook group for SPUGger social network dorks. Find it at:
> 
>   http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=137930522919794

And, in the spirit of TMOWTDI, I made a LinkedGroup:

http://www.linkedin.com/groups?home=&gid=3486738

-- 
Michael R. Wolf
    All mammals learn by playing!
        MichaelRWolf at att.net



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