From jobs-noreply at seattleperl.org  Fri May  2 10:58:10 2008
From: jobs-noreply at seattleperl.org (SPUG Jobs)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 10:58:10 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: SPUG: JOB: Anti-fraud app dev, Internet Identity, Tacoma
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0805021054210.822-100000@gandalf.addnorya.net>

Perl Anti-Fraud Development Opportunity
=======================================

Internet Identity is experiencing rapid growth and needs Perl / MySQL 
Superstars to help build upon the world's leading anti-phishing system. 

This is an excellent opportunity for experienced developers to design 
and build the next generation of industry leading Anti-Fraud software 
and services.  As a leading company in malicious website mitigation, our 
systems and services help protect millions of Internet users daily from 
the very worst kinds of attacks.  If you are a highly motivated 
individual who slices and dices code with ease and would like to take on 
the challenge of doing the same to on-line criminals, then this is the 
place for you.

Candidates must be able to learn new systems quickly and hit the ground 
running.  Demonstration of sound software design practices and ability 
work on multiple projects with limited supervision are required.


Duties will include:

 - concurrent development using both Perl and PHP, interfacing with
   MySQL and PostgreSQL database engines.
 - website development using PHP, MySQL, JavaScript, AJAX
 - data processing using Perl, MySQL
 - generating ad hoc reports
 - development of application specifications integrating input from
   customers and other departments


Requirements:

 - Degree in computer science, engineering or equivalent experience
 - 3+ years work experience with Perl on Unix/Linux
 - 2+ years work experience with MySQL on Unix/Linux
 - 1+ years work experience with PHP on Unix/Linux
 - Solid understanding of HTML/CSS


Bonus Experience:

 - Familiarity with the 'Agile Development' philosophy
 - PostgreSQL
 - IP Networking
 - DNS/BIND
 - AJAX
 - Ruby
 - Java


Pay, Benefits & Work Schedule:

This is a full time position with competitive compensation and benefits, 
located in Tacoma's financial district.  Flexible work schedule for the 
right candidates.


Company Information:

Internet Identity is focused on helping financial services, e-commerce 
and internet services companies protect their users against phishing and 
other forms of online fraud. We provide low cost, high value phishing 
readiness and response services that enable all companies -- from the 
smallest community banks to the largest ISPs -- to protect their 
customers.


How to Apply:

Send resume and cover letter to:   careers at internetidentity.com
ATTN:  David DeMartini


David DeMartini
Director - Product Development
Internet Identity
253-590-4095


From haircut at gmail.com  Fri May  2 15:10:00 2008
From: haircut at gmail.com (Adam Monsen)
Date: Fri, 2 May 2008 15:10:00 -0700
Subject: SPUG: Fwd: OSCON 2008: batteries included
In-Reply-To: <9ebd65110804241019i41ae99ael4e120f6d270d235b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9ebd65110804241019i41ae99ael4e120f6d270d235b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9ebd65110805021510t2bc8a5ceha8aec4b5ffa44b5e@mail.gmail.com>

< Followup-To: linux-list at ssc.com >

Hi there, just wanted to put in a plug for a talk at OSCON 2008 about
the project I'm currently working on. While I'm still not on the
business side of things, I've always been interested in how the heck
to make money writing FLOSS. Only a handful of companies appear to do
so successfully. We're going to do it, too. Find out how!

Additionally, I've recently become interested in socially responsible
companies; this is also part of the talk. Hope you can make it!

The speaker--George Conard--is awesome, by the way. He's basically the
head man for Mifos right now.

(original post from
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.finance.mifos.devel/4560 follows)

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Adam Monsen <haircut at gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 10:19 AM
Subject: OSCON 2008: batteries included
To: Developer <mifos-developer at lists.sourceforge.net>


Mifos will be part of the O'Reilly Open Source Convention 2008 in
 Portland, Oregon, USA! George Conard will be giving what promises to
 be quite an interesting presentation:

 http://en.oreilly.com/oscon2008/public/schedule/detail/2705

 I just signed up for the conference. It would be cool if folks that
 sign up share which tutorials they plan on attending. I signed up for
 "sessions plus two tutorials days".

 Monday:
 "Programming Vim" (taught by the legendary Damian Conway)
 "Introduction to Seaside"

 Tuesday:
 "Secrets of JavaScript Libraries"
 "People for Geeks"

-- 
Adam Monsen

From twists at gmail.com  Sat May  3 09:02:32 2008
From: twists at gmail.com (Joshua ben Jore)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 09:02:32 -0700
Subject: SPUG: threading, atomicity and safeness
In-Reply-To: <200804281447.28671.m3047@inwa.net>
References: <20080304170902.GJ1680@infula.helvella.org>
	<200804281447.28671.m3047@inwa.net>
Message-ID: <dc5c751d0805030902l4a53286al266dcc1b293a101@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Fred Morris <m3047 at inwa.net> wrote:
> "Atomicity" refers to an operation which simply cannot and will not be
>  interrupted. For instance a single machine instruction executing on a single
>  CPU is generally considered atomic (although the VAX had certain machine
>  instructions which *were* interruptible, and had certain others which had an
>  "interlocked" form which asserted a halt against other CPUs on the bus IIRC).
>  So no thread can possibly be interrupted in the middle of one of these
>  operations.
>
>  "Safeness" refers to something which happens up a level or two, when compilers
>  optimize instructions out of memory and into registers... hence it is not
>  safe for multiple threads to attempt to modify the "same" variable (because
>  each has a different register copy)... and therefore compilers end up with
>  "unsafe" pragmas and flags to keep certain variables from being optimized
>  that way.
>
>  This gets a little inside-out or at least the level of abstraction is more or
>  less levelled out, but I find myself wondering some of these same things
>  about Perl (and Python) and I don't find any discussion of these issues.
>
>  Who cares? Well:
>
>  * Atomicity means you can modify a value (on the VAX this was not just store,
>  but increment and add... and a few other oddball things) without throwing a
>  lock around it. Ok, maybe this "just isn't safe" if you've never taken a dive
>  beneath the flotsam generated by compilers and so you just don't go there,
>  but if you've ever written assembler maybe you've skipped a couple
>  locking/semaphore library calls with complete impunity... besides, it's
>  faster (that's a fact).
>
>  * Safeness means that two threads are actually assured that they are in fact
>  reading (or I suppose updating, but if reading isn't safe then who cares) the
>  same value... or at least the same storage location (since they might not
>  read it at the same time, and without locking the value could change).
>
>  Assume I'm talking about a hash because it's been blessed into a class as an
>  instance (and because I'm curious about the same questions regarding Python,
>  and its instances are basically hashes).
>
>  So then, given that I have two threads which are free-running, I pose these
>  questions:
>
>  * Is "$self->{foo} = $x;" atomic: that is, can I assume that if two threads
>  start to update $self->{foo} at the "same" time (or one starts updating while
>  the other starts reading), the one which actually goes first will finish
>  first?

No. The statement $self->{foo} = $x decomposes to the following atomic
operations:

sassign(
  helem(
    rv2hv(
      padsv( '$self' )
    )
    const( 'foo' )
  )
  padsv( '$x' )
)

For synchronization purposes, you must be sure that all your variables
are locked appropriately. In your example, there are four variables
each of which may need to be locked depending on what all you're
sharing.

The scalar $self.
The hash %$self.
The scalar $self->{'foo'}.
The scalar $x.

>  * Is "$self->{foo}++;" atomic? Ok, I had to ask. ;-) If it was, then the next

Also no. Here is the decomposition of your above expression.

preinc(
  helem(
    rv2hv(
      padsv( '$self' )
    )
    const( 'foo' )
  )
)

>  * Is "$x = $self->{foo};" safe?

Yes, provided you use locks. All the above is also safe provided you
use locks. If you would like to get away from this in Perl 5, consider
using DBM::Deep to synchronize your shared state.

Josh

From twists at gmail.com  Sat May  3 15:46:15 2008
From: twists at gmail.com (Joshua ben Jore)
Date: Sat, 3 May 2008 15:46:15 -0700
Subject: SPUG: threading, atomicity and safeness
In-Reply-To: <dc5c751d0805030902l4a53286al266dcc1b293a101@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080304170902.GJ1680@infula.helvella.org>
	<200804281447.28671.m3047@inwa.net>
	<dc5c751d0805030902l4a53286al266dcc1b293a101@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dc5c751d0805031546m91757e9h7ef79703d09b5e16@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, May 3, 2008 at 9:02 AM, Joshua ben Jore <twists at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 2:47 PM, Fred Morris <m3047 at inwa.net> wrote:
>  > "Atomicity" refers to an operation which simply cannot and will not be
>  >  interrupted.

Oh say, btw, those operations I listed are "atomic" in only some
senses. Two threads can and will overlap when executing each.
Typically their atomicity is relevant when considering signal
handling. That is, perl's safe signals are triggered only between each
operation. Each individual operation is just a C function and each may
possibly involve recursing into whole new runloops.

Josh

From rise at knavery.net  Tue May  6 13:23:51 2008
From: rise at knavery.net (Jonathan)
Date: Tue, 06 May 2008 13:23:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: SPUG: Daemonized work queue handling
Message-ID: <20080506.132351.193728332.rise@knavery.net>

We've got a process at work that handles generating and sending out
about 20M monthly newsletter emails to site members distributed over a
small cluster and I'm looking for a better way to run it.  Currently
each machine starts a cron job that forks semi-daemonized child
processes and redirects their output to a log file in /tmp.  They've
been converted to pull work blocks from a db-side queue and get all
their data from it as well, so there's no local state to care about.
Any recommendations or warnings for something that'll play well with
starting from an init script and running for months?

Things that look like they have potential:

Poe::Queue / POE::XS::Queue::Array
  http://search.cpan.org/~rcaputo/POE-1.0001/lib/POE.pm#POE::Queue_and_POE::Queue::Array
(possibly using POE::Wheel::Curses and dtach for a management/debugging REPL)

Daemon::Simple
  http://search.cpan.org/~khs/Daemon-Simple-0.02/lib/Daemon/Simple.pm
Pretty minimal solution

Daemon::Generic
  http://search.cpan.org/~muir/Daemon-Generic-0.51/lib/Daemon/Generic.pod
A little more featureful and feels more traditional
  
Net::Daemon
  http://search.cpan.org/~muir/Daemon-Generic-0.51/lib/Daemon/Generic.pod

TaskForest
  http://search.cpan.org/~enoor/TaskForest-1.09/lib/TaskForest.pm
Looks a little crufty, but that may just be the job control file syntax

-- 
Jonathan Conway                                                rise at knavery.net
    Checking whether build environment is sane ... build environment is
          grinning and holding a spatula.  Guess not. - xkcd #371

From tyemq at cpan.org  Wed May  7 10:25:39 2008
From: tyemq at cpan.org (Tye McQueen)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 10:25:39 -0700
Subject: SPUG: Suggestion (PerlMonks on LinkedIn)
Message-ID: <f57370570805071025y1ec3950et4acb1aa049275394@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed Apr 16 15:23:34 PDT 2008 Andrew Sweger wrote:

> On Wed, 16 Apr 2008, Amit Sett wrote:
> > I would also appreciate it if someone could reply with the link to the
> > LinkedIn Perlmonks group.
>
> I don't remember seeing one for Perlmonks.

I started forming a linkedin group for PerlMonks but ran into e-mail
problems via pair.com and got distracted.  I'll try to revive that
project...
Tye
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From jobs-noreply at seattleperl.org  Wed May  7 16:53:23 2008
From: jobs-noreply at seattleperl.org (SPUG Jobs)
Date: Wed, 7 May 2008 16:53:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: SPUG: JOB: Perl Developer, LAMP, Seattle, Contract
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0805071650150.28713-100000@gandalf.addnorya.net>

Title:  Software Developer - mod_perl 

Location:  Seattle - Downtown

Duration: 3-5 months

W-2 or 1099's 

Rate is open and depends on experience

Sr. Software Engineer:  5 years of experience! 

 - mod_perl
 - Java
 - JavaScript
 - LAMP
 - MySQL 

There will be 3 people assigned to this project so they must be self
managed.

The web site they are developing is a side project from their normal
core business.

This will be a high profile site/ revenue generating site.


Interested parties please apply to me at:

Michael Whalen
Bradson Technology
(425) 456-8900 Office
(206) 852-7922 Cell
mike at bradsontech.com
http://www.bradsontech.com


From jobs-noreply at seattleperl.org  Thu May  8 14:00:17 2008
From: jobs-noreply at seattleperl.org (SPUG Jobs)
Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 14:00:17 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: SPUG: JOB: Perl Dev and QA Positions, Seattle
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.21.0805081356240.28713-100000@gandalf.addnorya.net>

Each of the positions below are a 3-month contract with potential for
extension. 

Rate depends on experience and type of contract preference (1099 or W2) and
is negotiable. (in the range of $30-$50/hr-W2)

Location: downtown Seattle

No telecommuting

Placement is through a recruiting agency (iMatch) please contact Alisha
Siecinski

alisha at imatch.com or 206-262-1661x113

This team will be responsible for completing a series of defined projects
with milestones that are independent of the dev team's ongoing efforts and
requires consultants who can work autonomously to drive these key projects
to completion. Scope of work will consist primarily of functionality
changes and additions to existing data driven websites and web
applications utilizing XSLT, HTML, CSS, JavaScript, and Perl in a Linux
environment. Project requires experienced contract engineers with a
successful track record of completing visible, short-term deliverables and
working in a time sensitive, self-managed environment.  completing
visible, short-term deliverables and working in a time sensitive,
self-managed environment. The company provides online directory services.


Web Developer 
-------------

 - Requires recent web development experience in a Linux environment
   using technologies below. Successful candidate will also have some
   Perl development skills in a Linux environment.
 - 5+ years web development utilizing DHTML, CSS, advanced JavaScript.
 - Must have recent experience developing XSLT
 - Previous web application development in a Linux environment using
   Perl is preferred
 - Solid understanding of relational databases and SQL


QA Engineer
-----------

 - Requires experienced web application tester with experience
   utilizing web technologies (below) in a Linux environment. Previous
   experience writing test automation scripts within a Perl framework
   is a must have.
 - 5+ years of experience testing websites and web-based software
   products written in HTML, CSS, XSLT, advanced JavaScript, and Perl.
 - Knowledge of Perl or equivalent automation programming language(s).
   Will be developing complex test scripts for an online environment
   within a Perl framework.
 - Intermediate to advanced experience with SQL, Oracle, Postgres,
   MySQL, or related technologies.
 - Experience developing complex test cases from business requirements
   and functional specifications.
 

Software Engineer
-----------------

 - Must have previous experience implementing database driven, web based
   applications. Recent Perl development experience is required.
 - 5+ years development experience.
 - Advanced knowledge of Perl; intermediate to advanced knowledge of
   Linux/UNIX.
 - Knowledge of DBI and experience using Perl with relational databases.
 - Intermediate to advanced experience with mod_perl and Apache.
 - Advanced experience with Postgres, MySQL, and/or Oracle databases
 

Alisha Siecinski  
Technical Recruiter
iMatch Technical Services
1417 4th Ave. Suite 810, Seattle, WA
Phone: 206-262-1661 x113
http://www.imatch.com/

http://www.jobster.com/view.html?i=PATOCRSMUEWU iMatch <-- Click Here To
View Our Open Positions & Connect To Our Network


From cmeyer at helvella.org  Wed May 14 14:40:15 2008
From: cmeyer at helvella.org (Colin Meyer)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 14:40:15 -0700
Subject: SPUG: Meeting Announcement -- 20 May 2008
Message-ID: <20080514214015.GA3389@infula.helvella.org>

Please note the new meeting location.

    May 2008 Seattle Perl Users Group (SPUG) Meeting
    ====================================================

    Topic: The WhitePages.com Public Search API
    Speaker: Dan Sabath
    Meeting Date: Tuesday, 20 May 2008
    Meeting Time: 6:30 - 8:30 p.m.
    Location: Marchex - 4th & Pine 

    Cost: Admission is free and open to the public
    Info: http://seattleperl.org/

    ====================================================

Tuesday, May 20th, is the next meeting of the THE SEATTLE PERL
USERS GROUP.

Please note that there is a new meeting location this month. See below
for directions.

The WhitePages.com API exposes our basic query types via a REST
interface, allowing any developer to create mashups or stand alone
applications of their own. It is built on a solid and extensible OO
framework which handles simple Apache requests, data retrieval, and
returns a multitude of formats. Dan will be talking about the generic
aspects of the framework as well as some of the specifics of its
development.

Dan Sabath is an underemployed Marine Biologist working as a software
engineer at WhitePages.com on the backend search team. Dan first wrote
some Perl in 1995 but really came to love it working with data
transformation for his thesis. His most recent project has been
developing the WhitePages.com API.


Meeting Location
================

Marchex
413 Pine St, Suite 500
Seattle, WA  98101

Contact: Jackie Wolfstone - 206-491-8072

The building is just south of Westlake Center. Enter on 4th Avenue, near
Pine street. The entry is near the Dog In The Park hotdog stand.

  http://www.baylis.org/static/marchex.png

Due to all of the shopping around us there is plenty of parking
available in garages, but it can be hard to find street parking in
the evening.

See you there! 

From cmeyer at helvella.org  Wed May 14 14:46:04 2008
From: cmeyer at helvella.org (Colin Meyer)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 14:46:04 -0700
Subject: SPUG: Meeting Announcement -- 20 May 2008
In-Reply-To: <20080514214015.GA3389@infula.helvella.org>
References: <20080514214015.GA3389@infula.helvella.org>
Message-ID: <20080514214604.GB3389@infula.helvella.org>

I forgot to mention that our new host is providing pizza and beer
for the meeting.

-Colin.

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 02:40:15PM -0700, Colin Meyer wrote:
> 
> Meeting Location
> ================
> 
> Marchex
> 413 Pine St, Suite 500
> Seattle, WA  98101
> 
> Contact: Jackie Wolfstone - 206-491-8072
> 
> The building is just south of Westlake Center. Enter on 4th Avenue, near
> Pine street. The entry is near the Dog In The Park hotdog stand.
> 
>   http://www.baylis.org/static/marchex.png
> 

From cmeyer at helvella.org  Wed May 14 16:02:31 2008
From: cmeyer at helvella.org (Colin Meyer)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 16:02:31 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: SPUG:  Meeting Announcement -- 20 May 2008
Message-ID: <20080514.160231.117603859923738795.jconway@classmates.com>

Please note the new meeting location.

    May 2008 Seattle Perl Users Group (SPUG) Meeting
    ====================================================

    Topic: The WhitePages.com Public Search API
    Speaker: Dan Sabath
    Meeting Date: Tuesday, 20 May 2008
    Meeting Time: 6:30 - 8:30 p.m.
    Location: Marchex - 4th & Pine 

    Cost: Admission is free and open to the public
    Info: http://seattleperl.org/

    ====================================================

Tuesday, May 20th, is the next meeting of the THE SEATTLE PERL
USERS GROUP.

Please note that there is a new meeting location this month. See below
for directions.

The WhitePages.com API exposes our basic query types via a REST
interface, allowing any developer to create mashups or stand alone
applications of their own. It is built on a solid and extensible OO
framework which handles simple Apache requests, data retrieval, and
returns a multitude of formats. Dan will be talking about the generic
aspects of the framework as well as some of the specifics of its
development.

Dan Sabath is an underemployed Marine Biologist working as a software
engineer at WhitePages.com on the backend search team. Dan first wrote
some Perl in 1995 but really came to love it working with data
transformation for his thesis. His most recent project has been
developing the WhitePages.com API.


Meeting Location
================

Marchex
413 Pine St, Suite 500
Seattle, WA  98101

Contact: Jackie Wolfstone - 206-491-8072

The building is just south of Westlake Center. Enter on 4th Avenue, near
Pine street. The entry is near the Dog In The Park hotdog stand.

  http://www.baylis.org/static/marchex.png

Due to all of the shopping around us there is plenty of parking
available in garages, but it can be hard to find street parking in
the evening.

See you there! 
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From rise at knavery.net  Wed May 14 16:12:24 2008
From: rise at knavery.net (Jonathan)
Date: Wed, 14 May 2008 16:12:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: SPUG: Meeting Announcement -- 20 May 2008
In-Reply-To: <20080514.160231.117603859923738795.jconway@classmates.com>
References: <20080514.160231.117603859923738795.jconway@classmates.com>
Message-ID: <20080514.161224.71117608.rise@knavery.net>

Sorry folks, hit a bad behavior in my mail client with resends and
spammed the list with another copy of Colin's announcement.  Time to
file a bug report on Mew and I may owe a round pre-meeting.

-- 
Jonathan Conway                                                rise at knavery.net
    Checking whether build environment is sane ... build environment is
          grinning and holding a spatula.  Guess not. - xkcd #371

From cmeyer at helvella.org  Fri May 16 09:30:30 2008
From: cmeyer at helvella.org (Colin Meyer)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 09:30:30 -0700
Subject: SPUG: Meeting Announcement -- 20 May 2008
In-Reply-To: <20080514214015.GA3389@infula.helvella.org>
References: <20080514214015.GA3389@infula.helvella.org>
Message-ID: <20080516163030.GO3389@infula.helvella.org>

I'm going to propose a new pre-meeting beer/food get-together
location:

  Elephant & Castle, at 4th Ave & Union, downtown.
  http://www.elephantcastle.com/content/locations/seattle

Anyone who is interested should gather there at 5PM. I suggest
gathering at the bar, to avoid auto-tipping fees associated with
large parties. There are some small tables on the far side of the
bar. We can use a few of these.

Also, I'd like to remind you that there is a SPUG IRC channel, for
those who like that sort of thing. It's a good place to get a quick
question answered, to coordinate car-pooling for the meeting, or for
sharing your unbelief at the amazingly wtf code snippet you just came
across in your codebase.

  #spug on irc.perl.org

See you on Tuesday,
-Colin.

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 02:40:15PM -0700, Colin Meyer wrote:
> Please note the new meeting location.
> 
>     May 2008 Seattle Perl Users Group (SPUG) Meeting
>     ====================================================
> 
>     Topic: The WhitePages.com Public Search API
>     Speaker: Dan Sabath
>     Meeting Date: Tuesday, 20 May 2008
>     Meeting Time: 6:30 - 8:30 p.m.
>     Location: Marchex - 4th & Pine 
> 
>     Cost: Admission is free and open to the public
>     Info: http://seattleperl.org/
> 
>     ====================================================

From MichaelRWolf at att.net  Fri May 16 11:25:16 2008
From: MichaelRWolf at att.net (Michael R. Wolf)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 11:25:16 -0700
Subject: SPUG: 3-day Intro to Perl class - June 2-4
Message-ID: <015e01c8b782$30f51a20$640010ac@mlaptop>

I'll be teaching an open enrollment 3-day Intro to Perl class in Kent.

Do you know anyone who would be interested in attending?  If so, I'd
appreciate if you could make an introduction.

Thanks,
Michael

P.S.  Enrollments earn you a cash referral.

-- 
Michael R. Wolf
    All mammals learn by playing!
        MichaelRWolf at att.net



From amitsett at gmail.com  Fri May 16 11:56:13 2008
From: amitsett at gmail.com (Amit Sett)
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 11:56:13 -0700
Subject: SPUG: 3-day Intro to Perl class - June 2-4
In-Reply-To: <015e01c8b782$30f51a20$640010ac@mlaptop>
References: <015e01c8b782$30f51a20$640010ac@mlaptop>
Message-ID: <4d8419da0805161156i148c9cdejbb40585ccf54eb10@mail.gmail.com>

I'd be interested if this is on the weekends or late in the evenings.

-Amit

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 11:25 AM, Michael R. Wolf <MichaelRWolf at att.net>
wrote:

> I'll be teaching an open enrollment 3-day Intro to Perl class in Kent.
>
> Do you know anyone who would be interested in attending?  If so, I'd
> appreciate if you could make an introduction.
>
> Thanks,
> Michael
>
> P.S.  Enrollments earn you a cash referral.
>
> --
> Michael R. Wolf
>    All mammals learn by playing!
>        MichaelRWolf at att.net
>
>
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From cmeyer at helvella.org  Tue May 20 07:03:38 2008
From: cmeyer at helvella.org (Colin Meyer)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 07:03:38 -0700
Subject: SPUG: Meeting Announcement -- 20 May 2008
In-Reply-To: <20080516163030.GO3389@infula.helvella.org>
References: <20080514214015.GA3389@infula.helvella.org>
	<20080516163030.GO3389@infula.helvella.org>
Message-ID: <20080520140338.GD4908@infula.helvella.org>

Oops, the E&C is on 5th Ave, not on 4th.

See you there,
-Colin.

On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 09:30:30AM -0700, Colin Meyer wrote:
> I'm going to propose a new pre-meeting beer/food get-together
> location:
> 
>   Elephant & Castle, at 4th Ave & Union, downtown.
                          ^^^
                          5th

>   http://www.elephantcastle.com/content/locations/seattle
> 
> Anyone who is interested should gather there at 5PM. I suggest
> gathering at the bar, to avoid auto-tipping fees associated with
> large parties. There are some small tables on the far side of the
> bar. We can use a few of these.
> 
> Also, I'd like to remind you that there is a SPUG IRC channel, for
> those who like that sort of thing. It's a good place to get a quick
> question answered, to coordinate car-pooling for the meeting, or for
> sharing your unbelief at the amazingly wtf code snippet you just came
> across in your codebase.
> 
>   #spug on irc.perl.org
> 
> See you on Tuesday,
> -Colin.
> 
> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 02:40:15PM -0700, Colin Meyer wrote:
> > Please note the new meeting location.
> > 
> >     May 2008 Seattle Perl Users Group (SPUG) Meeting
> >     ====================================================
> > 
> >     Topic: The WhitePages.com Public Search API
> >     Speaker: Dan Sabath
> >     Meeting Date: Tuesday, 20 May 2008
> >     Meeting Time: 6:30 - 8:30 p.m.
> >     Location: Marchex - 4th & Pine 
> > 
> >     Cost: Admission is free and open to the public
> >     Info: http://seattleperl.org/
> > 
> >     ====================================================
> _____________________________________________________________
> Seattle Perl Users Group Mailing List  
>      POST TO: spug-list at pm.org
> SUBSCRIPTION: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/spug-list
>     MEETINGS: 3rd Tuesdays
>     WEB PAGE: http://seattleperl.org/

From telcodev at gmail.com  Tue May 20 09:08:05 2008
From: telcodev at gmail.com (Joseph Werner)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 09:08:05 -0700
Subject: SPUG: Meeting Announcement -- 20 May 2008
In-Reply-To: <20080514214015.GA3389@infula.helvella.org>
References: <20080514214015.GA3389@infula.helvella.org>
Message-ID: <4c93055f0805200908i8e28726qb4f1cfd131568fe1@mail.gmail.com>

Where is a good place to park for the meeting tonight?
Thanks,
Joseph

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Colin Meyer <cmeyer at helvella.org> wrote:
> Please note the new meeting location.
>
>    May 2008 Seattle Perl Users Group (SPUG) Meeting
>    ====================================================
>
>    Topic: The WhitePages.com Public Search API
>    Speaker: Dan Sabath
>    Meeting Date: Tuesday, 20 May 2008
>    Meeting Time: 6:30 - 8:30 p.m.
>    Location: Marchex - 4th & Pine
>
>    Cost: Admission is free and open to the public
>    Info: http://seattleperl.org/
>
>    ====================================================
>
> Tuesday, May 20th, is the next meeting of the THE SEATTLE PERL
> USERS GROUP.
>
> Please note that there is a new meeting location this month. See below
> for directions.
>
> The WhitePages.com API exposes our basic query types via a REST
> interface, allowing any developer to create mashups or stand alone
> applications of their own. It is built on a solid and extensible OO
> framework which handles simple Apache requests, data retrieval, and
> returns a multitude of formats. Dan will be talking about the generic
> aspects of the framework as well as some of the specifics of its
> development.
>
> Dan Sabath is an underemployed Marine Biologist working as a software
> engineer at WhitePages.com on the backend search team. Dan first wrote
> some Perl in 1995 but really came to love it working with data
> transformation for his thesis. His most recent project has been
> developing the WhitePages.com API.
>
>
> Meeting Location
> ================
>
> Marchex
> 413 Pine St, Suite 500
> Seattle, WA  98101
>
> Contact: Jackie Wolfstone - 206-491-8072
>
> The building is just south of Westlake Center. Enter on 4th Avenue, near
> Pine street. The entry is near the Dog In The Park hotdog stand.
>
>  http://www.baylis.org/static/marchex.png
>
> Due to all of the shopping around us there is plenty of parking
> available in garages, but it can be hard to find street parking in
> the evening.
>
> See you there!
> _____________________________________________________________
> Seattle Perl Users Group Mailing List
>     POST TO: spug-list at pm.org
> SUBSCRIPTION: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/spug-list
>    MEETINGS: 3rd Tuesdays
>    WEB PAGE: http://seattleperl.org/
>



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submission to telcodev at gmail.com
Joseph Werner

From rick.croote at philips.com  Tue May 20 10:30:29 2008
From: rick.croote at philips.com (Rick Croote)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 10:30:29 -0700
Subject: SPUG: Meeting Announcement -- 20 May 2008
In-Reply-To: <4c93055f0805200908i8e28726qb4f1cfd131568fe1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <OFE5105229.446DD82A-ON8825744F.005FFF51-8825744F.00602CC9@philips.com>

Yes I want to know this as well, and someplace that won't have my car
locked up overnight because they closed.  Last time I attempted to go to a
meeting I ended up turning around and going home because of parking.

---
Rick Croote
Software Engineer
Environment and Tools Team
Philips Medical Systems
Bothell, WA
Rick.Croote at Philips.com
Phone: 425-487-7834


spug-list-bounces+rick.croote=philips.com at pm.org wrote on 2008-05-20
09:08:05 AM:

> Where is a good place to park for the meeting tonight?
> Thanks,
> Joseph
>
> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Colin Meyer <cmeyer at helvella.org> wrote:
> > Please note the new meeting location.
> >
> >    May 2008 Seattle Perl Users Group (SPUG) Meeting
> >    ====================================================
> >
> >    Topic: The WhitePages.com Public Search API
> >    Speaker: Dan Sabath
> >    Meeting Date: Tuesday, 20 May 2008
> >    Meeting Time: 6:30 - 8:30 p.m.
> >    Location: Marchex - 4th & Pine
> >
> >    Cost: Admission is free and open to the public
> >    Info: http://seattleperl.org/
> >
> >    ====================================================
> >
> > Tuesday, May 20th, is the next meeting of the THE SEATTLE PERL
> > USERS GROUP.
> >
> > Please note that there is a new meeting location this month. See below
> > for directions.
> >
> > The WhitePages.com API exposes our basic query types via a REST
> > interface, allowing any developer to create mashups or stand alone
> > applications of their own. It is built on a solid and extensible OO
> > framework which handles simple Apache requests, data retrieval, and
> > returns a multitude of formats. Dan will be talking about the generic
> > aspects of the framework as well as some of the specifics of its
> > development.
> >
> > Dan Sabath is an underemployed Marine Biologist working as a software
> > engineer at WhitePages.com on the backend search team. Dan first wrote
> > some Perl in 1995 but really came to love it working with data
> > transformation for his thesis. His most recent project has been
> > developing the WhitePages.com API.
> >
> >
> > Meeting Location
> > ================
> >
> > Marchex
> > 413 Pine St, Suite 500
> > Seattle, WA  98101
> >
> > Contact: Jackie Wolfstone - 206-491-8072
> >
> > The building is just south of Westlake Center. Enter on 4th Avenue,
near
> > Pine street. The entry is near the Dog In The Park hotdog stand.
> >
> >  http://www.baylis.org/static/marchex.png
> >
> > Due to all of the shopping around us there is plenty of parking
> > available in garages, but it can be hard to find street parking in
> > the evening.
> >
> > See you there!
> > _____________________________________________________________
> > Seattle Perl Users Group Mailing List
> >     POST TO: spug-list at pm.org
> > SUBSCRIPTION: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/spug-list
> >    MEETINGS: 3rd Tuesdays
> >    WEB PAGE: http://seattleperl.org/
> >
>
>
>
> --
> I require any third parties to obtain my permission to submit my
> information to any other party for each such submission. I further
> require any third party to follow up on any submittal of my
> information by sending detailed information regarding each such
> submission to telcodev at gmail.com
> Joseph Werner
> _____________________________________________________________
> Seattle Perl Users Group Mailing List
>      POST TO: spug-list at pm.org
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From xiebob at gmail.com  Tue May 20 10:39:59 2008
From: xiebob at gmail.com (Christie P Robertson)
Date: Tue, 20 May 2008 10:39:59 -0700
Subject: SPUG: Meeting Announcement -- 20 May 2008
In-Reply-To: <OFE5105229.446DD82A-ON8825744F.005FFF51-8825744F.00602CC9@philips.com>
References: <4c93055f0805200908i8e28726qb4f1cfd131568fe1@mail.gmail.com>
	<OFE5105229.446DD82A-ON8825744F.005FFF51-8825744F.00602CC9@philips.com>
Message-ID: <10d16e520805201039u5f8de4acr8320386be0b6e3f3@mail.gmail.com>

I park in a garage on 2nd and Pike. It's $5 or $6 after 5pm.
Christie

On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Rick Croote <rick.croote at philips.com> wrote:
> Yes I want to know this as well, and someplace that won't have my car locked
> up overnight because they closed. Last time I attempted to go to a meeting I
> ended up turning around and going home because of parking.
>
> ---
> Rick Croote
> Software Engineer
> Environment and Tools Team
> Philips Medical Systems
> Bothell, WA
> Rick.Croote at Philips.com
> Phone: 425-487-7834
>
>
> spug-list-bounces+rick.croote=philips.com at pm.org wrote on 2008-05-20
> 09:08:05 AM:
>
>> Where is a good place to park for the meeting tonight?
>> Thanks,
>> Joseph
>>
>> On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Colin Meyer <cmeyer at helvella.org> wrote:
>> > Please note the new meeting location.
>> >
>> >    May 2008 Seattle Perl Users Group (SPUG) Meeting
>> >    ====================================================
>> >
>> >    Topic: The WhitePages.com Public Search API
>> >    Speaker: Dan Sabath
>> >    Meeting Date: Tuesday, 20 May 2008
>> >    Meeting Time: 6:30 - 8:30 p.m.
>> >    Location: Marchex - 4th & Pine
>> >
>> >    Cost: Admission is free and open to the public
>> >    Info: http://seattleperl.org/
>> >
>> >    ====================================================
>> >
>> > Tuesday, May 20th, is the next meeting of the THE SEATTLE PERL
>> > USERS GROUP.
>> >
>> > Please note that there is a new meeting location this month. See below
>> > for directions.
>> >
>> > The WhitePages.com API exposes our basic query types via a REST
>> > interface, allowing any developer to create mashups or stand alone
>> > applications of their own. It is built on a solid and extensible OO
>> > framework which handles simple Apache requests, data retrieval, and
>> > returns a multitude of formats. Dan will be talking about the generic
>> > aspects of the framework as well as some of the specifics of its
>> > development.
>> >
>> > Dan Sabath is an underemployed Marine Biologist working as a software
>> > engineer at WhitePages.com on the backend search team. Dan first wrote
>> > some Perl in 1995 but really came to love it working with data
>> > transformation for his thesis. His most recent project has been
>> > developing the WhitePages.com API.
>> >
>> >
>> > Meeting Location
>> > ================
>> >
>> > Marchex
>> > 413 Pine St, Suite 500
>> > Seattle, WA  98101
>> >
>> > Contact: Jackie Wolfstone - 206-491-8072
>> >
>> > The building is just south of Westlake Center. Enter on 4th Avenue, near
>> > Pine street. The entry is near the Dog In The Park hotdog stand.
>> >
>> >  http://www.baylis.org/static/marchex.png
>> >
>> > Due to all of the shopping around us there is plenty of parking
>> > available in garages, but it can be hard to find street parking in
>> > the evening.
>> >
>> > See you there!
>> > _____________________________________________________________
>> > Seattle Perl Users Group Mailing List
>> >     POST TO: spug-list at pm.org
>> > SUBSCRIPTION: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/spug-list
>> >    MEETINGS: 3rd Tuesdays
>> >    WEB PAGE: http://seattleperl.org/
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> I require any third parties to obtain my permission to submit my
>> information to any other party for each such submission. I further
>> require any third party to follow up on any submittal of my
>> information by sending detailed information regarding each such
>> submission to telcodev at gmail.com
>> Joseph Werner
>> _____________________________________________________________
>> Seattle Perl Users Group Mailing List
>>      POST TO: spug-list at pm.org
>> SUBSCRIPTION: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/spug-list
>>     MEETINGS: 3rd Tuesdays
>>     WEB PAGE: http://seattleperl.org/
>
> _____________________________________________________________
> Seattle Perl Users Group Mailing List
>     POST TO: spug-list at pm.org
> SUBSCRIPTION: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/spug-list
>    MEETINGS: 3rd Tuesdays
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>