somebody's profile in the kwiki ya'll use had this on the signature: box% perl -e '( $ ,, $ ")=("a".."z")[0,-1]; print "sh", $ ","m\n";;";;"' shazam box% While I'm not all that new to perl , I am not familiar with these ,,'s and ;;'s . Could someone point me to some proper documentation? perldoc perlop only had .., which I already use frequently