From andrew at sweger.net Fri Apr 1 00:57:05 2005 From: andrew at sweger.net (Andrew Sweger) Date: Fri Apr 1 00:57:14 2005 Subject: SPUG: PR: For Immediate Release Message-ID: Press Releases OOP Leader Seattle Python Interest Group Acquires SPUG Seattle, WA -- April 1, 2005 -- Seattle Python Interest Group (SeaPIG), users of the highly acclaimed Python programming language, today announced that it has acquired SPUG, the Seattle Perl Users Group, for an undisclosed amount of cash. With the acquisition, SeaPIG solidifies its position as the region's recognized leader in programmer user group. The Seattle Perl Users Group, a languishing community of Perl programmers who hold on to the dying programming language, is run by Andrew Sweger and was founded by Dr. Tim Maher in 1993. Perl helped fuel the rapid growth of Intarnet programming in the late 90's by offering geeks a free and expresive language to build so-called "interactive" websites. Dr. Maher said, "It's about time something like this happened. I've known for years that Perl was going nowhere fast." The SeaPIG organization will assume ownership of the SPUG assets and will be renamed The Seattle Python Users Group effective immediately. All members of the former SPUG organization are encouraged to buy a copy of Programming Python right away and start learning a decent language for once. Andrew Sweger, El Presidente de Facto del Spugo, will join SeaPIG as the organizations minister of conversions, leading Perl programmers on the one true path. Sweger says, "I for one welcome our new slithery overlords (and a new Porche!)." "Andrew and the Perl users will make a fine addition to the new SPUG," said Guido van Rossum, inventor of the Python language. "I think Adam Feuer and Brian Dorsey made the right move in acquiring SPUG." "We are now the only user group to offer the full range of programming tools needed by modern programmers to the Puget Sound," said Adam Feuer, co-founder of SeaPIG. About SeaPIG SeaPIG (Seattle Python Interest Group), based in Seattle, WA, is the user group behind making the Python programming language popular in many development shops in the area. SeaPIG's sole focus is to force whitespace delimited structures on every programmer in its grasp. From creede at penguinsinthenight.com Fri Apr 1 10:47:50 2005 From: creede at penguinsinthenight.com (Creede Lambard) Date: Fri Apr 1 10:48:00 2005 Subject: SPUG: PR: For Immediate Release In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050401184750.GQ6589@igor.penguinsinthenight.com> I for one welcome our Burmese, reticulated, spotted and bi-colored rock overlords. Although at first I read the press release as "GOP Leader Seattle Python Interest Group" and thought, "Wow, I thought the GOP Leader was George Bush. I better pay more attention to the SeaPIG mailing list." On Fri, Apr 01, 2005 at 12:57:05AM -0800, Andrew Sweger wrote: > Press Releases > > OOP Leader Seattle Python Interest Group Acquires SPUG > -- =================================================================== * .~. ( : Creede Lambard : Never rush a miracle man. . / V \ . :------------------------: You get lousy miracles. /( )\ : creede at : --------------------------------^^-^^----: penguinsinthenight : Linux. Reliable and free. Pick any two. : dot com : =================================================================== -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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From james at banshee.com Fri Apr 1 13:02:44 2005 From: james at banshee.com (James Moore) Date: Fri Apr 1 13:02:53 2005 Subject: SPUG: Okay, already In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <200504011959.j31Jxke11102@server2.chocolatelust.com> And don't forget to check today's date. - James From mako at debian.org Sat Apr 2 11:59:56 2005 From: mako at debian.org (Benj. Mako Hill) Date: Sat Apr 2 12:00:14 2005 Subject: SPUG: Okay, already In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050402195956.GR22575@nozomi> > What is with all the emails asking me if this Python thing is for realz? > Read the press release, see the website[1], and have a laugh. It'll be > gone soon. What? You mean it's *not* real? 1Damn.. ;) Later, Mako -- Benjamin Mako Hill mako@atdot.cc http://mako.yukidoke.org/ Creativity can be a social contribution, but only in so far as society is free to use the results. --RMS -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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So can somebody tell me if there's an easy way to find modules, related to a certain topic, that are not OO? Sure, you can reject those whose docs provide matches for the telltale "->" sequence in the Synopsis section, but I'm wondering if there's an easier way. IIRC, CPAN's PAUSE system asks when you upload a module if it's OO or not, which suggests to me that that info should be available somewhere, and possible searchable. Any thoughts? -Tim *--------------------------------------------------------------------------* | Tim Maher, PhD (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com http://TeachMePerl.Com http://TeachMeUnix.Com | *+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* | Watch for my June, 2005 book: "Minimal Perl for UNIX/Linux People" | *--------------------------------------------------------------------------* From tim at consultix-inc.com Mon Apr 4 14:00:54 2005 From: tim at consultix-inc.com (Tim Maher) Date: Mon Apr 4 14:01:11 2005 Subject: SPUG: Where's CGI.pm's "extra WS" option? Message-ID: <20050404210054.GA11723@jumpy.consultix-inc.com> I thought there was an option to CGI.pm to ask it to insert extra newlines into the HTML it generates, but I can't find it in the man page or by googling around. Can somebody help? -Tim *--------------------------------------------------------------------------* | Tim Maher, PhD (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com http://TeachMePerl.Com http://TeachMeUnix.Com | *+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* | Watch for my June, 2005 book: "Minimal Perl for UNIX/Linux People" | *--------------------------------------------------------------------------* From cos at indeterminate.net Mon Apr 4 14:07:22 2005 From: cos at indeterminate.net (John Costello) Date: Mon Apr 4 14:07:31 2005 Subject: SPUG: Where's CGI.pm's "extra WS" option? In-Reply-To: <20050404210054.GA11723@jumpy.consultix-inc.com> Message-ID: On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, Tim Maher wrote: > I thought there was an option to CGI.pm to ask it to insert extra > newlines into the HTML it generates, but I can't find it in the > man page or by googling around. Can somebody help? The only mention I see in my somewhat old docs is that one should use Brian Paulsen's CGI::Pretty to get pretty output, including carriage returns. Looking at CGI.pm in my 5.8.0 distro, Lincoln's recommendation still is to use CGI::Pretty. > -Tim John ----- John Costello - cos at indeterminate dot net "His mind is a wasteland of porn and sugar."--F. Wall From sthoenna at efn.org Mon Apr 4 16:21:03 2005 From: sthoenna at efn.org (Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes) Date: Mon Apr 4 16:21:23 2005 Subject: SPUG: How find non-OO modules In-Reply-To: <20050404205937.GA11693@jumpy.consultix-inc.com> References: <20050404205937.GA11693@jumpy.consultix-inc.com> Message-ID: <20050404232103.GA4016@efn.org> On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 01:59:37PM -0700, Tim Maher wrote: > Sure, you can reject those whose docs provide matches for the > telltale "->" sequence in the Synopsis section, but I'm > wondering if there's an easier way. IIRC, CPAN's PAUSE > system asks when you upload a module if it's OO or not, > which suggests to me that that info should be available > somewhere, and possible searchable. Any thoughts? Those flags are provided in $CPAN/modules/03modlist.tar.gz, but IIRC only for approved module names (a shrinking category). I forget where it is documented which character is what. From tim at consultix-inc.com Mon Apr 4 16:25:47 2005 From: tim at consultix-inc.com (Tim Maher) Date: Mon Apr 4 16:25:59 2005 Subject: SPUG: Where's CGI.pm's "extra WS" option? In-Reply-To: References: <20050404210054.GA11723@jumpy.consultix-inc.com> Message-ID: <20050404232547.GA12663@jumpy.consultix-inc.com> On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 02:07:22PM -0700, John Costello wrote: > On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, Tim Maher wrote: > > > I thought there was an option to CGI.pm to ask it to insert extra > > newlines into the HTML it generates, but I can't find it in the > > man page or by googling around. Can somebody help? > > Looking at CGI.pm in my 5.8.0 distro, Lincoln's recommendation still is to > use CGI::Pretty. > > John > ----- Yep, that sorta* works; thanks! -Tim P.S. The output of Dump(), which is a nested list of bullet items, does NOT get indented, which is a shame. *--------------------------------------------------------------------------* | Tim Maher, PhD (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com http://TeachMePerl.Com http://TeachMeUnix.Com | *+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* | Watch for my June, 2005 book: "Minimal Perl for UNIX/Linux People" | *--------------------------------------------------------------------------* From glim at mycybernet.net Sun Apr 10 09:26:00 2005 From: glim at mycybernet.net (Gerard Lim) Date: Sun Apr 10 09:44:44 2005 Subject: SPUG: Reminder: Yet Another Perl Conference in Toronto, June 27 - 29 Message-ID: Yet Another YAPC::NA 2005 Conference Reminder --------------------------------------------- YAPC::NA 2005 is Yet Another Perl Conference, North America, this year to be held in downtown Toronto, Ontario, Canada, Mon - Wed 27 - 29 June 2005. Important Dates/Deadlines ------------------------- April 18 -- deadline for paper submissions May 12 -- last day of guaranteed accommodations YAPC::NA is a grassroots, all-volunteer conference. The speaker quality is high, the participants lively, and there are many extra social activities scheduled. We expect a bit over 400 people this year, and registration is proceeding faster this year than in the past. The registration cost is USD$85. Information on registration: http://yapc.org/America/register-2005.shtml http://yapc.org/America/registration-announcement-2005.txt Direct link to registration: http://donate.perlfoundation.org/index.pl?node=registrant%20info&conference_id=423 Want to be a speaker? Deadline for proposal submission is April 18, just over 1 week from now. Go to: http://yapc.org/America/cfp-2005.shtml Need accommodations in Toronto? Go to: http://yapc.org/America/accommodations-2005.shtml If you book before May 13 you will be guaranteed a hotel space. After that getting accommodations will become progressively more difficult. Prices we have arranged are in two different price ranges: approximately US$50 for a dorm room, US$72 for a decent hotel room. All accommodations are very nearby the conference venue. This message comes from the YAPC::NA 2005 organizers in Toronto.pm, http://to.pm.org/, on behalf of The Perl Foundation, http://www.perlfoundation.org/ We look forward to seeing you in Toronto! If you have any questions please contact na-help@yapc.org From andrew at sweger.net Tue Apr 12 11:23:09 2005 From: andrew at sweger.net (Andrew Sweger) Date: Tue Apr 12 11:23:18 2005 Subject: SPUG: meeting next week Message-ID: I realize we're supposed to have a meeting next week. I do not have things organized very well. There are two people that have contacted me about giving a beginner's oriented presentation. I don't have anything prepared for a Subversion presentation. And I have not yet confirmed that our meeting location is available. Send me some energy here, folks. Should I get off my butt and get things organized? -- Andrew B. Sweger -- The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. From andrew at sweger.net Tue Apr 12 11:25:42 2005 From: andrew at sweger.net (Andrew Sweger) Date: Tue Apr 12 11:25:51 2005 Subject: SPUG: Meetup wants money now Message-ID: Hmmm. Now Meetup.com wants $19.00 per month per group for their services ($9.00 per month if I act now!). Is it worth it? Or do I ditch Meetup and we roll our own RSVP? Please discuss. -- Andrew B. Sweger -- The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. From jay at scherrer.com Tue Apr 12 12:09:16 2005 From: jay at scherrer.com (Jay Scherrer) Date: Tue Apr 12 12:09:29 2005 Subject: SPUG: Meetup wants money now In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1113332956.5477.26.camel@gimly> Seems the $9.00 would buy almost a good pitcher of Flat Tire after the talks (if not before ;-)). Jay Scherrer On Tue, 2005-04-12 at 11:25 -0700, Andrew Sweger wrote: > Hmmm. Now Meetup.com wants $19.00 per month per group for their services > ($9.00 per month if I act now!). Is it worth it? Or do I ditch Meetup and > we roll our own RSVP? Please discuss. > From sthoenna at efn.org Tue Apr 12 12:35:55 2005 From: sthoenna at efn.org (Yitzchak Scott-Thoennes) Date: Tue Apr 12 12:36:04 2005 Subject: SPUG: Meetup wants money now In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050412193554.GC1356@efn.org> On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 11:25:42AM -0700, Andrew Sweger wrote: > Hmmm. Now Meetup.com wants $19.00 per month per group for their services > ($9.00 per month if I act now!). Is it worth it? Or do I ditch Meetup and > we roll our own RSVP? Please discuss. Ditch meetup. Does it have to be more complicated than a wiki page (I say, having never actually visited the wiki). From andrew at sweger.net Tue Apr 12 15:57:00 2005 From: andrew at sweger.net (Andrew Sweger) Date: Tue Apr 12 15:57:09 2005 Subject: SPUG: RSVP at Wiki Message-ID: So be it. The mob has spoken. RSVPs will be handled on our Wiki. http://wiki.seattleperl.org/index.cgi?MeetingApril2005 -- Andrew B. Sweger -- The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. From ingy at ttul.org Tue Apr 12 17:02:40 2005 From: ingy at ttul.org (Brian Ingerson) Date: Tue Apr 12 17:02:39 2005 Subject: SPUG: RSVP at Wiki In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050413000240.GE14706@ttul.org> I can give a talk, but not a beginner specific one. Let me know :) On 12/04/05 15:57 -0700, Andrew Sweger wrote: > So be it. The mob has spoken. RSVPs will be handled on our Wiki. > > http://wiki.seattleperl.org/index.cgi?MeetingApril2005 > > -- > Andrew B. Sweger -- The great thing about multitasking is that several > things can go wrong at once. > > _____________________________________________________________ > Seattle Perl Users Group Mailing List > POST TO: spug-list@pm.org > SUBSCRIPTION: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/spug-list > MEETINGS: 3rd Tuesdays, Location: Amazon.com Pac-Med > WEB PAGE: http://seattleperl.org/ From billy at idiom.com Tue Apr 12 18:30:08 2005 From: billy at idiom.com (William T) Date: Tue Apr 12 18:30:18 2005 Subject: SPUG: Meetup wants money now In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050413013008.GB39303@idiom.com> On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 11:25:42AM -0700, Andrew Sweger wrote: > Hmmm. Now Meetup.com wants $19.00 per month per group for their services > ($9.00 per month if I act now!). Is it worth it? Or do I ditch Meetup and > we roll our own RSVP? Please discuss. Ditch Meetup, but I don't think you have to roll your own. There are a few different dynamic web site packages. There are lots of tools to make your own too. -wjt From pierrepp at gmail.com Tue Apr 12 18:41:23 2005 From: pierrepp at gmail.com (Pierre Pham-Phu) Date: Tue Apr 12 18:41:40 2005 Subject: SPUG: Meetup wants money now In-Reply-To: <20050413013008.GB39303@idiom.com> References: <20050413013008.GB39303@idiom.com> Message-ID: <1336b8a0504121841620ac721@mail.gmail.com> Maybe http://www.evite.com/ can do the job. If you want a nice free calendar integramod (built over phpBB2) can do the job. You can check one example with some url info on a little forum I have installed here : http://forumfrancophone.ouvaton.org/viewtopic.php?t=114 Pierre On 4/12/05, William T wrote: > On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 11:25:42AM -0700, Andrew Sweger wrote: > > Hmmm. Now Meetup.com wants $19.00 per month per group for their services > > ($9.00 per month if I act now!). Is it worth it? Or do I ditch Meetup and > > we roll our own RSVP? Please discuss. > > Ditch Meetup, but I don't think you have to roll your own. There are a few > different dynamic web site packages. There are lots of tools to make your own > too. > > -wjt > _____________________________________________________________ > Seattle Perl Users Group Mailing List > POST TO: spug-list@pm.org > SUBSCRIPTION: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/spug-list > MEETINGS: 3rd Tuesdays, Location: Amazon.com Pac-Med > WEB PAGE: http://seattleperl.org/ > From entropy at zipcon.com Tue Apr 12 20:06:20 2005 From: entropy at zipcon.com (Jim Clark) Date: Tue Apr 12 20:06:38 2005 Subject: SPUG: DBD::CSV Problems Message-ID: <200504122006200613.1F1473A6@mail.zipcon.com> Hi All, I feel a brief history is in order before I get to my problem. I retired in 2002 and have not cut a line of production code since July of that year. A former co-worker asked me to crunch some data for the small business he started. Being out of the workforce for a while, I'm definitely not up to date with perl so I may ask stupid questions. That being said, here is my problem. I have some .csv files I need to read, parse and write. I planned on using DBI/DBD. I have been unable to open the csv files with a connect. I have a lot of experience with DBD::Oracle but am at an empass with DBD::CSV. I'm not looking forward to writing code to parse a csv file. Here is where I'm at... OS RH 9.2 Perl 5.8.0 DBI/DBD drivers installed within the last month SQL::Statement is installed Text::CSV_XS is installed Here is the connect sub... sub connect_to_yahoo { my $dbh = DBI->connect( "DBI:CSV:f_dir=/home/jc/data/yahoo.csv" ) ; return ( $DBI::err ? 0 : $dbh ) ; } and the error message No such directory '/home/jc/data/yahoo.csv' at ./dbtest.pl line 27 The directory and the file definitely exist. Any help would be greatly apprecieated. Thanks, JC -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.7 - Release Date: 4/12/2005 From mathin at mathin.com Tue Apr 12 20:48:33 2005 From: mathin at mathin.com (Dan Ebert) Date: Tue Apr 12 20:48:53 2005 Subject: SPUG: DBD::CSV Problems In-Reply-To: <200504122006200613.1F1473A6@mail.zipcon.com> References: <200504122006200613.1F1473A6@mail.zipcon.com> Message-ID: <425C9691.5030304@mathin.com> You might try Text::CSV (available on CPAN). I've used it before and it's pretty good. Dan. Jim Clark wrote: >Hi All, > I feel a brief history is in order before I get to >my problem. > >I retired in 2002 and have not cut a line of production >code since July of that year. A former co-worker asked me >to crunch some data for the small business he started. Being >out of the workforce for a while, I'm definitely not >up to date with perl so I may ask stupid questions. > >That being said, here is my problem. > >I have some .csv files I need to read, parse and >write. I planned on using DBI/DBD. I have been >unable to open the csv files with a connect. >I have a lot of experience with DBD::Oracle >but am at an empass with DBD::CSV. I'm not looking >forward to writing code to parse a csv file. > >Here is where I'm at... > >OS RH 9.2 >Perl 5.8.0 >DBI/DBD drivers installed within the last month >SQL::Statement is installed >Text::CSV_XS is installed > >Here is the connect sub... > >sub connect_to_yahoo >{ > > my $dbh = DBI->connect( "DBI:CSV:f_dir=/home/jc/data/yahoo.csv" ) ; > > return ( $DBI::err ? 0 : $dbh ) ; > >} > >and the error message > >No such directory '/home/jc/data/yahoo.csv' at ./dbtest.pl line 27 > >The directory and the file definitely exist. > >Any help would be greatly apprecieated. > >Thanks, > >JC > > > > > > > From creede at penguinsinthenight.com Tue Apr 12 20:56:40 2005 From: creede at penguinsinthenight.com (Creede Lambard) Date: Tue Apr 12 20:56:51 2005 Subject: SPUG: DBD::CSV Problems In-Reply-To: <200504122006200613.1F1473A6@mail.zipcon.com> References: <200504122006200613.1F1473A6@mail.zipcon.com> Message-ID: <20050413035640.GE4551@igor.penguinsinthenight.com> I will admit to never having used DBI::CSV, but I notice that your connect string is my $dbh = DBI->connect("DBI:CSV:f_dir=/home/jc/data/yahoo.csv"); ^^^^^ and your error message is No such directory '/home/jc/data/yahoo.csv' at ./dbtest.pl line 27 ^^^^^^^^^ so I'm just guessing here that you're using the wrong method to specify the file you want to open. A quick look at Google indicates that you do indeed need to specify a directory as the argument to f_dir, but I didn't google far enough to find out how to specify the file. Good luck! On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 08:06:20PM -0700, Jim Clark wrote: > Hi All, > I feel a brief history is in order before I get to > my problem. > > I retired in 2002 and have not cut a line of production > code since July of that year. A former co-worker asked me > to crunch some data for the small business he started. Being > out of the workforce for a while, I'm definitely not > up to date with perl so I may ask stupid questions. > > That being said, here is my problem. > > I have some .csv files I need to read, parse and > write. I planned on using DBI/DBD. I have been > unable to open the csv files with a connect. > I have a lot of experience with DBD::Oracle > but am at an empass with DBD::CSV. I'm not looking > forward to writing code to parse a csv file. > > Here is where I'm at... > > OS RH 9.2 > Perl 5.8.0 > DBI/DBD drivers installed within the last month > SQL::Statement is installed > Text::CSV_XS is installed > > Here is the connect sub... > > sub connect_to_yahoo > { > > my $dbh = DBI->connect( "DBI:CSV:f_dir=/home/jc/data/yahoo.csv" ) ; > > return ( $DBI::err ? 0 : $dbh ) ; > > } > > and the error message > > No such directory '/home/jc/data/yahoo.csv' at ./dbtest.pl line 27 > > The directory and the file definitely exist. > > Any help would be greatly apprecieated. > > Thanks, > > JC > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.7 - Release Date: 4/12/2005 > > _____________________________________________________________ > Seattle Perl Users Group Mailing List > POST TO: spug-list@pm.org > SUBSCRIPTION: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/spug-list > MEETINGS: 3rd Tuesdays, Location: Amazon.com Pac-Med > WEB PAGE: http://seattleperl.org/ -- =================================================================== * .~. 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West) Date: Tue Apr 12 21:00:01 2005 Subject: SPUG: Re: DBD::CSV Problems References: <200504122006200613.1F1473A6@mail.zipcon.com> Message-ID: Note that you specified a file name, not a directory name, as if it were a directory containing CSV files. Try Text::CSV_XS for parsing text that's already in a file. Or try creating a table within the CSV "database" (datasource) to see how the DBD driver organizes and names its files. Did you read the docs? http://search.cpan.org/~jzucker/DBD-CSV-0.22/lib/DBD/CSV.pm This might work: my $dbh = DBI->connect( "DBI:CSV:f_dir=/home/jc/data/" ) ; my $sth = $dbh->prepare("SELECT * FROM yahoo.csv"); ... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Clark" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:06 PM Subject: SPUG: DBD::CSV Problems Hi All, I feel a brief history is in order before I get to my problem. I retired in 2002 and have not cut a line of production code since July of that year. A former co-worker asked me to crunch some data for the small business he started. Being out of the workforce for a while, I'm definitely not up to date with perl so I may ask stupid questions. That being said, here is my problem. I have some .csv files I need to read, parse and write. I planned on using DBI/DBD. I have been unable to open the csv files with a connect. I have a lot of experience with DBD::Oracle but am at an empass with DBD::CSV. I'm not looking forward to writing code to parse a csv file. Here is where I'm at... OS RH 9.2 Perl 5.8.0 DBI/DBD drivers installed within the last month SQL::Statement is installed Text::CSV_XS is installed Here is the connect sub... sub connect_to_yahoo { my $dbh = DBI->connect( "DBI:CSV:f_dir=/home/jc/data/yahoo.csv" ) ; return ( $DBI::err ? 0 : $dbh ) ; } and the error message No such directory '/home/jc/data/yahoo.csv' at ./dbtest.pl line 27 The directory and the file definitely exist. Any help would be greatly apprecieated. Thanks, JC -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.7 - Release Date: 4/12/2005 _____________________________________________________________ Seattle Perl Users Group Mailing List POST TO: spug-list@pm.org SUBSCRIPTION: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/spug-list MEETINGS: 3rd Tuesdays, Location: Amazon.com Pac-Med WEB PAGE: http://seattleperl.org/ From spug at punch.net Tue Apr 12 21:52:34 2005 From: spug at punch.net (Tom Heady) Date: Tue Apr 12 21:52:04 2005 Subject: SPUG: DBD::CSV Problems In-Reply-To: <200504122006200613.1F1473A6@mail.zipcon.com> References: <200504122006200613.1F1473A6@mail.zipcon.com> Message-ID: <425CA592.1000100@punch.net> > my $dbh = DBI->connect( "DBI:CSV:f_dir=/home/jc/data/yahoo.csv" ) ; This should be: my $dbh = DBI->connect( "DBI:CSV:f_dir=/home/jc/data/" ) ; Then later.. my $sth = $dbh->prepare( "select * from yahoo" ); The directory is the "database". The file is the "table". The ".csv" is unnecessary. This and more is available in the docs here: http://search.cpan.org/dist/DBD-CSV/ From bill at celestial.com Wed Apr 13 09:35:49 2005 From: bill at celestial.com (Bill Campbell) Date: Wed Apr 13 09:35:23 2005 Subject: SPUG: Meetup wants money now In-Reply-To: <20050413013008.GB39303@idiom.com> References: <20050413013008.GB39303@idiom.com> Message-ID: <20050413163549.GA34361@alexis.mi.celestial.com> On Tue, Apr 12, 2005, William T wrote: >On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 11:25:42AM -0700, Andrew Sweger wrote: >> Hmmm. Now Meetup.com wants $19.00 per month per group for their services >> ($9.00 per month if I act now!). Is it worth it? Or do I ditch Meetup and >> we roll our own RSVP? Please discuss. > >Ditch Meetup, but I don't think you have to roll your own. There are a few >different dynamic web site packages. There are lots of tools to make your own >too. I volunteered to host a Plone site here months ago. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Software LLC UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ When you have an efficient government, you have a dictatorship. -- Harry Truman From andrew at sweger.net Wed Apr 13 11:38:06 2005 From: andrew at sweger.net (Andrew Sweger) Date: Wed Apr 13 11:38:16 2005 Subject: SPUG: Call for volunteer to setup Plone content In-Reply-To: <20050413163549.GA34361@alexis.mi.celestial.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 13 Apr 2005, Bill Campbell wrote: > I volunteered to host a Plone site here months ago. Bill's not kidding. The system is there and running and just waiting for someone to set it up and put things where they belong. I personally am having trouble finding time to "get *in* to it" enough to put content where it needs to go. Would anyone like to step up and be responsible for this? You'd be working with me (and to a small extent, Bill) primarily. > When you have an efficient government, you have a dictatorship. > -- Harry Truman Amen. -- Andrew B. Sweger -- The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. From entropy at zipcon.com Wed Apr 13 12:59:15 2005 From: entropy at zipcon.com (Jim Clark) Date: Wed Apr 13 12:59:38 2005 Subject: SPUG: Re: DBD::CSV Problem Solved In-Reply-To: References: <200504122006200613.1F1473A6@mail.zipcon.com> Message-ID: <200504131259150132.22B3CC1D@mail.zipcon.com> That's it. Problem solved. Thank you all. JC *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 4/12/2005 at 8:59 PM Aaron W. West wrote: >Note that you specified a file name, not a directory name, as if >it were a directory containing CSV files. > >Try Text::CSV_XS for parsing text that's already in a file. > >Or try creating a table within the CSV "database" (datasource) to >see how the DBD driver organizes and names its files. > >Did you read the docs? > >http://search.cpan.org/~jzucker/DBD-CSV-0.22/lib/DBD/CSV.pm > >This might work: > my $dbh = DBI->connect( "DBI:CSV:f_dir=/home/jc/data/" ) ; > my $sth = $dbh->prepare("SELECT * FROM yahoo.csv"); > ... > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Jim Clark" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:06 PM >Subject: SPUG: DBD::CSV Problems > > >Hi All, > I feel a brief history is in order before I get to >my problem. > >I retired in 2002 and have not cut a line of production >code since July of that year. A former co-worker asked me >to crunch some data for the small business he started. Being >out of the workforce for a while, I'm definitely not >up to date with perl so I may ask stupid questions. > >That being said, here is my problem. > >I have some .csv files I need to read, parse and >write. I planned on using DBI/DBD. I have been >unable to open the csv files with a connect. >I have a lot of experience with DBD::Oracle >but am at an empass with DBD::CSV. I'm not looking >forward to writing code to parse a csv file. > >Here is where I'm at... > >OS RH 9.2 >Perl 5.8.0 >DBI/DBD drivers installed within the last month >SQL::Statement is installed >Text::CSV_XS is installed > >Here is the connect sub... > >sub connect_to_yahoo >{ > > my $dbh = DBI->connect( >"DBI:CSV:f_dir=/home/jc/data/yahoo.csv" ) ; > > return ( $DBI::err ? 0 : $dbh ) ; > >} > >and the error message > >No such directory '/home/jc/data/yahoo.csv' at ./dbtest.pl line 27 > >The directory and the file definitely exist. > >Any help would be greatly apprecieated. > >Thanks, > >JC > > > > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.7 - Release Date: >4/12/2005 > >_____________________________________________________________ >Seattle Perl Users Group Mailing List > POST TO: spug-list@pm.org >SUBSCRIPTION: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/spug-list > MEETINGS: 3rd Tuesdays, Location: Amazon.com Pac-Med > WEB PAGE: http://seattleperl.org/ > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.7 - Release Date: 4/12/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.7 - Release Date: 4/12/2005 From kmeyer at blarg.net Wed Apr 13 21:51:08 2005 From: kmeyer at blarg.net (Ken Meyer) Date: Wed Apr 13 21:51:24 2005 Subject: SPUG: Pogo Linux Bus Message-ID: Our great benefactors at Pogo Linux, facilitated by Paul Bibaud, have offered to provide bus service to LinuxFest, at the Bellingham Technical College, again this year. For information on the fest, see: http://www.linuxnorthwest.org To sign up for a place on the bus, see: http://www.pogolinux.com/info/lfnw2005.html This service has been extremely successful in the past, to the tune of two full Greyhound-type highway busses. Sign-up to insure a place. In the past, the Pogo People wouldn't turn away a walk-in if seats remain, but if not, its 1:20 on the highway for you (if you can find BTC in a reasonable amount of time). It is most likely that the busses will leave from the North Seattle Community College campus's southeast parking lot at 8:00 AM, per previous years; but confirmation should be on your task list. The Pogo People have shown movies such as "Revolution" on the busses on the way up, and this year they are soliciting recommendations for the Movie of the Year. Contact: paul.b @ pogolinux.com LinuxFest is an amazing event (check-out the schedule et al), with an estimated 900 attendees last year. This is the painless way to get there and back, having the only potential disadvantage of returning relatively quickly after the event officially ends. Bet you can catch a ride back with someone, if you decide to hang around. Ken Meyer From andrew at sweger.net Mon Apr 18 17:41:50 2005 From: andrew at sweger.net (Andrew Sweger) Date: Mon Apr 18 17:41:59 2005 Subject: SPUG: Meeting CANCELLED -- 19 April 2005 Message-ID: I don't recall if this has ever happened before. I am canceling the regular SPUG meeting for tomorrow, 19 April 2005. I've been taken down by a sudden illness, from which I am slowly recovering, and our Director of Facilities Coordination and Solicitor of Wickedly Cool Speakers, C.J., has been called away on out-of-town business in Santa Clara (ahem). My profuse apologies to the folks who have offered to present tomorrow night for waiting to the last day to let you know. I'll try to come up with a way to make it up to everyone (I think Jay has the right idea; a few pitchers of Flat Tire). Note to other do-it-yourself home remodelers: consider wearing an appropriate filter mask when demolishing a 45 year-old basement staircase that might have lots of icky dust and crud in it. Who knows what's living and growing in my lungs right now, but it consumes the larger share of the air I breathe. I plan to see you Tuesday, 17 May 2005. -- Andrew B. Sweger -- The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. From bill at celestial.com Mon Apr 18 18:32:16 2005 From: bill at celestial.com (Bill Campbell) Date: Mon Apr 18 18:31:55 2005 Subject: SPUG: Meeting CANCELLED -- 19 April 2005 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20050419013216.GA69662@alexis.mi.celestial.com> On Mon, Apr 18, 2005, Andrew Sweger wrote: >I don't recall if this has ever happened before. I am canceling the >regular SPUG meeting for tomorrow, 19 April 2005. ... >Note to other do-it-yourself home remodelers: consider wearing an >appropriate filter mask when demolishing a 45 year-old basement staircase >that might have lots of icky dust and crud in it. Who knows what's living >and growing in my lungs right now, but it consumes the larger share of the >air I breathe. I wonder if that's worse than the time I sanded all the paint off the fiberglass body of a Turner 950-S while wearing shorts and no shirt. I didn't sneeze a lot, but it sure was prickly for a few days. Bill -- INTERNET: bill@Celestial.COM Bill Campbell; Celestial Systems, Inc. UUCP: camco!bill PO Box 820; 6641 E. Mercer Way FAX: (206) 232-9186 Mercer Island, WA 98040-0820; (206) 236-1676 URL: http://www.celestial.com/ ``It is surprising how much new stuff users find that developers never do. You put a copy in front of a normal user and they find all these bugs that you would think developers would find. The real users and developers are completely different species as far as I am concerned.'' --Linux creator Linus Torvalds From michaelrwolf at att.net Mon Apr 18 21:22:13 2005 From: michaelrwolf at att.net (michaelrwolf@att.net) Date: Mon Apr 18 21:22:04 2005 Subject: SPUG: Meeting CANCELLED -- 19 April 2005 Message-ID: <041920050422.402.4264877500057052000001922160376223000401999D040A0E080C0703@att.net> -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Andrew Sweger > I don't recall if this has ever happened before. I am canceling the > regular SPUG meeting for tomorrow, 19 April 2005. I'd personally lead an ad-hoc "social" meeting, but am currently on the road preaching the gospel (i.e. teaching a Perl class). This is one of the first outbound messages from my new Linux laptop that came to life on Sunday. Actually, the "preaching" isn't such a stretch. I had two copies of a bible on the table in the back of the conference room I set up last night -- one placed by the Gideons, one pertaining to Perl. :-) Evangelistically yours, Michael Running (as in around-teaching-Perl) Wolf From jay at scherrer.com Mon Apr 18 23:15:55 2005 From: jay at scherrer.com (Jay Scherrer) Date: Mon Apr 18 23:16:15 2005 Subject: SPUG: Meeting CANCELLED -- 19 April 2005 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1113891355.5157.19.camel@gimly> That's what I'm talkin about; It's the only "Flat Tire" I'd recommend. But thinking of Staircases, I had performed a petri dish experiment on a staircase dust once. But I would probably rather use the formula: $steps = ((($height/12)/7.25)-1); $run = ($length/11.75); Just to make sure I could rebuild those steps. (Before the owner's came home) :-) Jay Scherrer On Mon, 2005-04-18 at 17:41 -0700, Andrew Sweger wrote: > I don't recall if this has ever happened before. I am canceling the > regular SPUG meeting for tomorrow, 19 April 2005. > > I've been taken down by a sudden illness, from which I am slowly > recovering, and our Director of Facilities Coordination and Solicitor of > Wickedly Cool Speakers, C.J., has been called away on out-of-town business > in Santa Clara (ahem). My profuse apologies to the folks who have offered > to present tomorrow night for waiting to the last day to let you know. > > I'll try to come up with a way to make it up to everyone (I think Jay has > the right idea; a few pitchers of Flat Tire). > > Note to other do-it-yourself home remodelers: consider wearing an > appropriate filter mask when demolishing a 45 year-old basement staircase > that might have lots of icky dust and crud in it. Who knows what's living > and growing in my lungs right now, but it consumes the larger share of the > air I breathe. > > I plan to see you Tuesday, 17 May 2005. > > -- > Andrew B. Sweger -- The great thing about multitasking is that several > things can go wrong at once. > > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Seattle Perl Users Group Mailing List > POST TO: spug-list@pm.org > SUBSCRIPTION: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/spug-list > MEETINGS: 3rd Tuesdays, Location: Amazon.com Pac-Med > WEB PAGE: http://seattleperl.org/ From jobs-noreply at seattleperl.org Tue Apr 19 16:56:20 2005 From: jobs-noreply at seattleperl.org (SPUG Jobs) Date: Tue Apr 19 16:56:40 2005 Subject: SPUG: JOB: SE at IDX Systems Message-ID: The Tools team at IDX Systems is hiring a full-time (W-2) software engineer. We use Perl extensively in writing development and configuration tools for the Carecast clinical information system. I'm happy to answer any questions I can, but please DO NOT send me resumes or applications; those must be submitted through the link below to get to HR. http://idx.interviewexchange.com/jobofferdetails.jsp?JOBID=1763 Job Description: The SW Engineer/Dev/Lead on the Carecast TSD Tools Team: * Develops and maintains software in perl (plus smaller amounts of code in other languages). * Maintains and extends a large, heavily reused code base written in perl. * Creates simple, elegant solutions to complex problems. * Identifies opportunities to improve processes by applying existing tools and developing new ones. * Develops tools and performs analysis to enforce and extend exit criteria for standard product builds. This position may be hired at the Associate, Senior or Lead level, depending on qualifications. Requirements: Important Knowledge, Skills, and Abilities (Required Qualifications): * Must have demonstrated success writing application software in a 3rd generation procedural language. * Minimum 2 years experience as a Software Developer. * Accomplished programmer, either with strong academic background in computer science or having written >50,000 lines of code in a variety of languages. * Strong team player, enjoying team programming, collaborative design, and rigorous code reviews. * Driven to produce simple, elegant solutions to complex problems. * Able to interact with a wide variety of other programs, databases, and the web; build and manipulate complex data structures. Additional Knowledge, Skills, and Abilities of Value (Desired Qualifications): * perl programming experience is highly desired. * COBOL and/or TACL programming experience is a plus. * Experience building tools in a large system environment is a strong plus. * Linux/Unix, Tandem, and Windows development experience are plusses. Preferred minimum education: Bachelors degree in Computer Science or related discipline is required. Estimated Travel: Less than 10%. Location: This position is located in Seattle, WA and is not available for remote employment. No relocation assistance is available. Additional Information: Hard work is rewarded at IDX. Our benefits package reflects our commitment that our employees lead happy, healthy lives. Medical/Dental/Vision Insurance Retirement Plan and Profit Sharing, 401(k) with Match Tuition Assistance Paid Vacation and Holidays New hires start with 3 weeks vacation Child Care Resource Center Employee Stock Purchase Plan Employee Assistance Program Flexible Spending Reimbursement Accounts Short and Long-Term Disability Supplemental Insurance IDX is an EEO/Affirmative Action Employer -- Jack Foy Software engineer, Tools IDX Systems From tim at consultix-inc.com Wed Apr 20 18:24:43 2005 From: tim at consultix-inc.com (Tim Maher) Date: Wed Apr 20 18:24:57 2005 Subject: SPUG: Stas Bekman for Summer Speaker? Message-ID: <20050421012443.GA11524@jumpy.consultix-inc.com> Stas Bekman is looking for a reason to come to Seattle to give a SPUGly talk sometime around his 7/31-8/6 visit to Portland, and a 8/7 visit to Vancouver (according to http://stason.org/schedule.html, and use.perl.org's "mod_perl ... teaching tour" article). IMHO, the head SPUGniks should look into seizing this opportunity, and the SPUGsters themselves should help by asking their companies to ponie (sic) up some D'oh! to pay his expenses. -Tim, J.A.F.S.L. ("Just Another Former Spug Leader") *--------------------------------------------------------------------------* | Tim Maher, PhD (206) 781-UNIX (866) DOC-PERL (866) DOC-UNIX | | tim(AT)Consultix-Inc.Com http://TeachMePerl.Com http://TeachMeUnix.Com | *+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-* | Watch for my June, 2005 book: "Minimal Perl for UNIX/Linux People" | *--------------------------------------------------------------------------* From andrew at sweger.net Thu Apr 21 00:05:39 2005 From: andrew at sweger.net (Andrew Sweger) Date: Thu Apr 21 00:05:56 2005 Subject: SPUG: Stas Bekman for Summer Speaker? In-Reply-To: <20050421012443.GA11524@jumpy.consultix-inc.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 20 Apr 2005, Tim Maher wrote: > IMHO, the head SPUGniks should look into seizing this opportunity, Already started on it. > and the SPUGsters themselves should help by asking their companies > to ponie (sic) up some D'oh! to pay his expenses. ...and maybe fund some quality one-on-one time with your engineers so they can exploit the most from mod_perl. If you or your company might be interested in persuing this, please get in touch with me. -- Andrew B. Sweger -- The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. From andrew at sweger.net Thu Apr 21 14:29:38 2005 From: andrew at sweger.net (Andrew Sweger) Date: Thu Apr 21 14:29:56 2005 Subject: SPUG: Stas Bekman visiting Seattle in August Message-ID: I've been talking to Stas Bekman (ya know, the mod_perl dude) about visiting Seattle in early August (after OSCON) to give a mod_perl presentation. He is very interested in meeting with local users groups. He is also interested in getting a chance to explore the area and enjoys hiking. Send specific topic requests to me (off-list) so I can compile a list for him. If your company is interested in helping to cover his expenses while visiting, please put me in touch with the appropriate people to make this happen. There may also be an opportunity for Stas to meet with your engineers at your company. Feel free to forward this on to other regional user groups you feel may be interested (please Cc: me). In Perlocity, Andrew B. Sweger President, Seattle Perl Users Group From andrew at sweger.net Tue Apr 26 08:41:09 2005 From: andrew at sweger.net (Andrew Sweger) Date: Tue Apr 26 08:41:30 2005 Subject: SPUG: Stas Bekman visiting Seattle in August In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hello? I'm being serious (no, really). Stas Bekman. Do you work for a company that runs lots of mod_perl code? Do you think they could afford a couple hundred bucks to buy Stas a flight and a couple nights in a dive off Aurora Avenue? He's booking flights now and trying to fill his calendar. Here's a great chance to have Mr. mod_perl teach and inspire your team to even higher levels of Perl wizardry. On Thu, 21 Apr 2005, Andrew Sweger wrote: > I've been talking to Stas Bekman (ya know, the mod_perl dude) about > visiting Seattle in early August (after OSCON) to give a mod_perl > presentation. He is very interested in meeting with local users groups. He > is also interested in getting a chance to explore the area and enjoys > hiking. Send specific topic requests to me (off-list) so I can compile a > list for him. > > If your company is interested in helping to cover his expenses while > visiting, please put me in touch with the appropriate people to make this > happen. There may also be an opportunity for Stas to meet with your > engineers at your company. > > Feel free to forward this on to other regional user groups you feel may be > interested (please Cc: me). -- Andrew B. Sweger -- The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. From jerry.gay at gmail.com Tue Apr 26 09:15:29 2005 From: jerry.gay at gmail.com (jerry gay) Date: Tue Apr 26 09:15:45 2005 Subject: SPUG: Stas Bekman visiting Seattle in August In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1d9a3f400504260915bcb9e7f@mail.gmail.com> i don't want this thread to go unanswered. i'd love to see stas in action, but i'm self-employed, and don't have deep pockets right now. i'd be happy to chip in, and would even be happy to host Stas (in Madrona) if it helps keep costs down. i'm not a big mod_perl user, but i appreciate it's use and am quite willing to learn more. if there's real interest (unfortunately it looks like that's not the case) i'll cough up some money, but i can't fund his visit myself. let me second andrew's request: does anyone else have interest in meeting stas bekman and learning more about mod_perl direct from the source? if so, please respond to the list. ~jerry On 4/26/05, Andrew Sweger wrote: > Hello? I'm being serious (no, really). Stas Bekman. Do you work for a > company that runs lots of mod_perl code? Do you think they could afford a > couple hundred bucks to buy Stas a flight and a couple nights in a dive > off Aurora Avenue? He's booking flights now and trying to fill his > calendar. Here's a great chance to have Mr. mod_perl teach and inspire > your team to even higher levels of Perl wizardry. > > On Thu, 21 Apr 2005, Andrew Sweger wrote: > > > I've been talking to Stas Bekman (ya know, the mod_perl dude) about > > visiting Seattle in early August (after OSCON) to give a mod_perl > > presentation. He is very interested in meeting with local users groups. He > > is also interested in getting a chance to explore the area and enjoys > > hiking. Send specific topic requests to me (off-list) so I can compile a > > list for him. > > > > If your company is interested in helping to cover his expenses while > > visiting, please put me in touch with the appropriate people to make this > > happen. There may also be an opportunity for Stas to meet with your > > engineers at your company. > > > > Feel free to forward this on to other regional user groups you feel may be > > interested (please Cc: me). > > -- > Andrew B. Sweger -- The great thing about multitasking is that several > things can go wrong at once. > > _____________________________________________________________ > Seattle Perl Users Group Mailing List > POST TO: spug-list@pm.org > SUBSCRIPTION: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/spug-list > MEETINGS: 3rd Tuesdays, Location: Amazon.com Pac-Med > WEB PAGE: http://seattleperl.org/ > From jay at scherrer.com Tue Apr 26 10:37:12 2005 From: jay at scherrer.com (Jay Scherrer) Date: Tue Apr 26 10:37:31 2005 Subject: SPUG: Stas Bekman visiting Seattle in August In-Reply-To: <1d9a3f400504260915bcb9e7f@mail.gmail.com> References: <1d9a3f400504260915bcb9e7f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1114537032.6527.13.camel@gimly> Same here. How bout a book lunch auction. Or what ever they used call it were everybody chips in to a draw. The winner gets a paid lunch with the speaker? Or a book and a lunch? Either way count me in for Twenty or Thirty bucks. Jay Scherrer Scherrer Company On Tue, 2005-04-26 at 09:15 -0700, jerry gay wrote: > i don't want this thread to go unanswered. i'd love to see stas in > action, but i'm self-employed, and don't have deep pockets right now. > i'd be happy to chip in, and would even be happy to host Stas (in > Madrona) if it helps keep costs down. > > i'm not a big mod_perl user, but i appreciate it's use and am quite > willing to learn more. if there's real interest (unfortunately it > looks like that's not the case) i'll cough up some money, but i can't > fund his visit myself. > > let me second andrew's request: does anyone else have interest in > meeting stas bekman and learning more about mod_perl direct from the > source? if so, please respond to the list. > ~jerry > > On 4/26/05, Andrew Sweger wrote: > > Hello? I'm being serious (no, really). Stas Bekman. Do you work for a > > company that runs lots of mod_perl code? Do you think they could afford a > > couple hundred bucks to buy Stas a flight and a couple nights in a dive > > off Aurora Avenue? He's booking flights now and trying to fill his > > calendar. Here's a great chance to have Mr. mod_perl teach and inspire > > your team to even higher levels of Perl wizardry. > > > > On Thu, 21 Apr 2005, Andrew Sweger wrote: > > > > > I've been talking to Stas Bekman (ya know, the mod_perl dude) about > > > visiting Seattle in early August (after OSCON) to give a mod_perl > > > presentation. He is very interested in meeting with local users groups. He > > > is also interested in getting a chance to explore the area and enjoys > > > hiking. Send specific topic requests to me (off-list) so I can compile a > > > list for him. > > > > > > If your company is interested in helping to cover his expenses while > > > visiting, please put me in touch with the appropriate people to make this > > > happen. There may also be an opportunity for Stas to meet with your > > > engineers at your company. > > > > > > Feel free to forward this on to other regional user groups you feel may be > > > interested (please Cc: me). > > > > -- > > Andrew B. Sweger -- The great thing about multitasking is that several > > things can go wrong at once. > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > Seattle Perl Users Group Mailing List > > POST TO: spug-list@pm.org > > SUBSCRIPTION: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/spug-list > > MEETINGS: 3rd Tuesdays, Location: Amazon.com Pac-Med > > WEB PAGE: http://seattleperl.org/ > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Seattle Perl Users Group Mailing List > POST TO: spug-list@pm.org > SUBSCRIPTION: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/spug-list > MEETINGS: 3rd Tuesdays, Location: Amazon.com Pac-Med > WEB PAGE: http://seattleperl.org/ -- No matter how much you know today, you'll have to know more tomorrow. From cos at indeterminate.net Tue Apr 26 10:52:30 2005 From: cos at indeterminate.net (John Costello) Date: Tue Apr 26 10:52:42 2005 Subject: SPUG: Stas Bekman visiting Seattle in August In-Reply-To: <1114537032.6527.13.camel@gimly> Message-ID: On Tue, 26 Apr 2005, Jay Scherrer wrote: > Same here. > How bout a book lunch auction. Or what ever they used call it were > everybody chips in to a draw. The winner gets a paid lunch with the > speaker? Or a book and a lunch? > Either way count me in for Twenty or Thirty bucks. Count me in for the same amount. > Jay Scherrer > Scherrer Company From andrew at sweger.net Tue Apr 26 11:41:51 2005 From: andrew at sweger.net (Andrew Sweger) Date: Tue Apr 26 11:42:10 2005 Subject: SPUG: Stas Bekman visiting Seattle in August Message-ID: I meant to Cc: this to the group. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Andrew Sweger To: jerry gay Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:41:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: SPUG: Stas Bekman visiting Seattle in August On Tue, 26 Apr 2005, jerry gay wrote: > how much does stas need to cover in order to make it to seattle? if we > had an approximate amount, it may be easier to get buy-in (literally) > from the group. Lots of unknowns here. Figure there's a flight and at least a couple nights staying somewhere. A few hundred bucks? > BTW any chance of a social meeting before the next tech meeting? i > just moved to seattle from philidelphia, and i'm looking to make > friends and meet colleagues. i'm working from home for a client in > princeton, nj. i don't get to meet many people that way :) We used to have these wickedly cool Open Sauce Lunches that would spring up periodically. Anyone can schedule one. http://wiki.seattleperl.org/index.cgi?OpenSauceLunch -- Andrew B. Sweger -- The great thing about multitasking is that several things can go wrong at once. From charles.e.derykus at boeing.com Tue Apr 26 11:45:41 2005 From: charles.e.derykus at boeing.com (DeRykus, Charles E) Date: Tue Apr 26 11:46:15 2005 Subject: SPUG: Stas Bekman visiting Seattle in August Message-ID: <5DF8FDE8DFE8744388602480FDCC0E3106CF117F@xch-nw-23.nw.nos.boeing.com> I'd like to contribute in the $20-30 amount mentioned. -- Charles DeRykus -----Original Message----- From: Jay Scherrer [mailto:jay@scherrer.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:37 AM To: jerry gay Cc: Andrew Sweger; Seattle Perl Users Group Subject: Re: SPUG: Stas Bekman visiting Seattle in August Same here. How bout a book lunch auction. Or what ever they used call it were everybody chips in to a draw. The winner gets a paid lunch with the speaker? Or a book and a lunch? Either way count me in for Twenty or Thirty bucks. Jay Scherrer Scherrer Company On Tue, 2005-04-26 at 09:15 -0700, jerry gay wrote: > i don't want this thread to go unanswered. i'd love to see stas in > action, but i'm self-employed, and don't have deep pockets right now. > i'd be happy to chip in, and would even be happy to host Stas (in > Madrona) if it helps keep costs down. > > i'm not a big mod_perl user, but i appreciate it's use and am quite > willing to learn more. if there's real interest (unfortunately it > looks like that's not the case) i'll cough up some money, but i can't > fund his visit myself. > > let me second andrew's request: does anyone else have interest in > meeting stas bekman and learning more about mod_perl direct from the > source? if so, please respond to the list. ~jerry > > On 4/26/05, Andrew Sweger wrote: > > Hello? I'm being serious (no, really). Stas Bekman. Do you work for > > a company that runs lots of mod_perl code? Do you think they could > > afford a couple hundred bucks to buy Stas a flight and a couple > > nights in a dive off Aurora Avenue? He's booking flights now and > > trying to fill his calendar. Here's a great chance to have Mr. > > mod_perl teach and inspire your team to even higher levels of Perl > > wizardry. > > > > On Thu, 21 Apr 2005, Andrew Sweger wrote: > > > > > I've been talking to Stas Bekman (ya know, the mod_perl dude) > > > about visiting Seattle in early August (after OSCON) to give a > > > mod_perl presentation. He is very interested in meeting with local > > > users groups. He is also interested in getting a chance to explore > > > the area and enjoys hiking. Send specific topic requests to me > > > (off-list) so I can compile a list for him. > > > > > > If your company is interested in helping to cover his expenses > > > while visiting, please put me in touch with the appropriate people > > > to make this happen. There may also be an opportunity for Stas to > > > meet with your engineers at your company. > > > > > > Feel free to forward this on to other regional user groups you > > > feel may be interested (please Cc: me). > > > > -- > > Andrew B. Sweger -- The great thing about multitasking is that several > > things can go wrong at once. > > > > _____________________________________________________________ > > Seattle Perl Users Group Mailing List > > POST TO: spug-list@pm.org > > SUBSCRIPTION: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/spug-list > > MEETINGS: 3rd Tuesdays, Location: Amazon.com Pac-Med > > WEB PAGE: http://seattleperl.org/ > > > _____________________________________________________________ > Seattle Perl Users Group Mailing List > POST TO: spug-list@pm.org > SUBSCRIPTION: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/spug-list > MEETINGS: 3rd Tuesdays, Location: Amazon.com Pac-Med > WEB PAGE: http://seattleperl.org/ -- No matter how much you know today, you'll have to know more tomorrow. _____________________________________________________________ Seattle Perl Users Group Mailing List POST TO: spug-list@pm.org SUBSCRIPTION: http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/spug-list MEETINGS: 3rd Tuesdays, Location: Amazon.com Pac-Med WEB PAGE: http://seattleperl.org/ From jay at scherrer.com Tue Apr 26 12:20:07 2005 From: jay at scherrer.com (Jay Scherrer) Date: Tue Apr 26 12:20:26 2005 Subject: SPUG: Stas Bekman visiting Seattle in August In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1114543207.6527.21.camel@gimly> To bad we didn't know earlier, Stas could've given a lecture at the Linux fest. Maybe If I sweet talk my associates maybe I could put Stas up in one of my empty apartments. Does he do any painting or maintenance? :-) Just joking! Has anyone checked Velocity for round trip AIR? Jay Scherrer On Tue, 2005-04-26 at 11:41 -0700, Andrew Sweger wrote: > I meant to Cc: this to the group. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Andrew Sweger > To: jerry gay > Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2005 11:41:05 -0700 (PDT) > Subject: Re: SPUG: Stas Bekman visiting Seattle in August > > On Tue, 26 Apr 2005, jerry gay wrote: > > > how much does stas need to cover in order to make it to seattle? if we > > had an approximate amount, it may be easier to get buy-in (literally) > > from the group. > > Lots of unknowns here. Figure there's a flight and at least a couple > nights staying somewhere. A few hundred bucks? > > > BTW any chance of a social meeting before the next tech meeting? i > > just moved to seattle from philidelphia, and i'm looking to make > > friends and meet colleagues. i'm working from home for a client in > > princeton, nj. i don't get to meet many people that way :) > > We used to have these wickedly cool Open Sauce Lunches that would spring > up periodically. Anyone can schedule one. > > http://wiki.seattleperl.org/index.cgi?OpenSauceLunch > From bri at ifokr.org Tue Apr 26 17:18:43 2005 From: bri at ifokr.org (Brian Hatch) Date: Tue Apr 26 17:19:08 2005 Subject: SPUG: Stas Bekman visiting Seattle in August In-Reply-To: <5DF8FDE8DFE8744388602480FDCC0E3106CF117F@xch-nw-23.nw.nos.boeing.com> References: <5DF8FDE8DFE8744388602480FDCC0E3106CF117F@xch-nw-23.nw.nos.boeing.com> Message-ID: <20050427001843.GI10506@ifokr.org> > I'd like to contribute in the $20-30 amount mentioned. Ditto. -- Brian Hatch "DNS and Active Directory Systems and synchronisation! 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