SPUG: FW: Giving up on computer jobs & usefulness of placementfi rms

[Peter Darley]

Marc,
	I guess I assume that everyone has a life outside of work, weither they
include it on their resume or not.  Not everyone has the kind of interest in
the technical side of things that they explore it outside of work however,
so I look for that in a resume.
	Someone who really doesn't have a life outside of work is going to be so
broken that they'll be screened out of the hiring process anyway. :)
Thanks,
Peter Darley

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I have to strongly disagree with Peter on this one. I want to hire well
rounded individuals who have lives outside of the technology field. I think
there is such as thing as being too close to things and thus never seeing
the large picture. I also find the technology addicted tend to not know when
they are too tired to continue (and thus make lots of stupid errors they
then waste even more time finding and fixing).

Give me someone who is emotionally invested in their work yet have lives
outside of the workplace. I should note that in my 25+ year career I have
been involved in many hiring decisions. I have never regretted one hire made
with my agreement, nor regretted one not hired with me joining in the thumbs
down.

-Marc

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Darley <pdarley at kinesis-cem.com>
Sent: Aug 13, 2003 9:08 AM
To: SPUG <spug-list at mail.pm.org>
Subject: SPUG: FW: Giving up on computer jobs & usefulness of placement fi
rms

Folks,

	I have often been in a position to hire tech folks, and the number one
thing that impresses me when looking at a resume is personal interests.  A
programmer who writes programs for themselves in their free time is likely
to rise to the top, a network administrator who doesn't have a network at
their home isn't likely to perform well on the job.

	The thing that is the biggest red flag to me is an applicant who focuses a
lot on their industry certifications (especially MCSEs).  Having them isn't
a mark against them, but if it's what they put forward as proof that they
know what they're doing that tells me that they probably don't have much
real world experience, weather it's at work, school, noodling around at
home, etc.

Thanks,
Peter Darley

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