From tim at retout.co.uk  Tue Jul  1 00:46:33 2014
From: tim at retout.co.uk (Tim Retout)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 08:46:33 +0100
Subject: [Southampton-pm] July meeting
Message-ID: <CADc0ge_momZ-SBkHp6t0DUg+m66rPsYySKFZbFWv7-eSTWoqrQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Southampton Perl Mongers will meet as usual at 8pm at the Platform Tavern
tomorrow (Wednesday).

Kind regards,

Tim
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From w at rren.co.uk  Tue Jul  1 05:07:03 2014
From: w at rren.co.uk (Warren Humphreys)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 13:07:03 +0100
Subject: [Southampton-pm] July meeting
In-Reply-To: <CADc0ge_momZ-SBkHp6t0DUg+m66rPsYySKFZbFWv7-eSTWoqrQ@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <1B1CC7F9-8EBB-4830-B99C-11732F8BD463@rren.co.uk>

See you there!

Sent from my iPhone

> On 1 Jul 2014, at 08:46, Tim Retout <tim at retout.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Southampton Perl Mongers will meet as usual at 8pm at the Platform Tavern tomorrow (Wednesday).
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Tim
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Southampton-pm mailing list
> Southampton-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/southampton-pm
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From vytdau at gmail.com  Tue Jul  1 05:38:25 2014
From: vytdau at gmail.com (Vytautas D)
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2014 13:38:25 +0100
Subject: [Southampton-pm] July meeting
In-Reply-To: <1B1CC7F9-8EBB-4830-B99C-11732F8BD463@rren.co.uk>
References: <CADc0ge_momZ-SBkHp6t0DUg+m66rPsYySKFZbFWv7-eSTWoqrQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<1B1CC7F9-8EBB-4830-B99C-11732F8BD463@rren.co.uk>
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I and Anton will be there from 6.15 PM, in case someone wants to join us
earlier :)


On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Warren Humphreys <w at rren.co.uk> wrote:

> See you there!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 1 Jul 2014, at 08:46, Tim Retout <tim at retout.co.uk> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Southampton Perl Mongers will meet as usual at 8pm at the Platform Tavern
> tomorrow (Wednesday).
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Tim
>
> _______________________________________________
> Southampton-pm mailing list
> Southampton-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/southampton-pm
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Southampton-pm mailing list
> Southampton-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/southampton-pm
>
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From duncan.garland at ntlworld.com  Wed Jul  2 12:28:44 2014
From: duncan.garland at ntlworld.com (GARLAND DUNCAN)
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2014 20:28:44 +0100
Subject: [Southampton-pm] July meeting
In-Reply-To: <CADc0ge_momZ-SBkHp6t0DUg+m66rPsYySKFZbFWv7-eSTWoqrQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADc0ge_momZ-SBkHp6t0DUg+m66rPsYySKFZbFWv7-eSTWoqrQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAYfoV9GPS6LxJs+LcW0YtR7+bOgvehS_zQSQbbtXzquecrH2A@mail.gmail.com>

Can't make it this month.

On 01/07/2014, Tim Retout <tim at retout.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Southampton Perl Mongers will meet as usual at 8pm at the Platform Tavern
> tomorrow (Wednesday).
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Tim
>

From vytdau at gmail.com  Thu Jul  3 01:41:00 2014
From: vytdau at gmail.com (Vytautas D)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 09:41:00 +0100
Subject: [Southampton-pm] July meeting
In-Reply-To: <CAAYfoV9GPS6LxJs+LcW0YtR7+bOgvehS_zQSQbbtXzquecrH2A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADc0ge_momZ-SBkHp6t0DUg+m66rPsYySKFZbFWv7-eSTWoqrQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAYfoV9GPS6LxJs+LcW0YtR7+bOgvehS_zQSQbbtXzquecrH2A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAO5K3OexdCQDygmney15aqkevfwY_L+wRXtKJdWZ1LH7KSt3Rw@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Duncan, you missed my announcement, which I think you will be happy to hear
- we are doing a lecture/workshop or presentation to promote Perl at
University of Portsmouth some time between October-December. Format or time
allowance for the talk is not yet agreed, but I would like to know how much
time we think we need and how many of us wants to participate?

I think our goal should be to invite students to our meetings & suggest to
make Perl club at UoP.

Warren came back from Mojo conference in Norway and are planning to offer
Mojo community to make the next year Mojo conference at Southampton.

In overall, it was very productive meeting, where we talked a lot about
Perl and we all cheered that CGI was at last deprecated, nice MOP might
come to core & hopefully by 5.22 we might have nice sub signatures finished
& etc etc :)

Hope you like these news :)
Vytas


On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 8:28 PM, GARLAND DUNCAN <duncan.garland at ntlworld.com>
wrote:

> Can't make it this month.
>
> On 01/07/2014, Tim Retout <tim at retout.co.uk> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Southampton Perl Mongers will meet as usual at 8pm at the Platform Tavern
> > tomorrow (Wednesday).
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Tim
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Southampton-pm mailing list
> Southampton-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/southampton-pm
>
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From duncan.garland at ntlworld.com  Thu Jul  3 11:51:33 2014
From: duncan.garland at ntlworld.com (GARLAND DUNCAN)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 19:51:33 +0100
Subject: [Southampton-pm] July meeting
In-Reply-To: <CAO5K3OexdCQDygmney15aqkevfwY_L+wRXtKJdWZ1LH7KSt3Rw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CADc0ge_momZ-SBkHp6t0DUg+m66rPsYySKFZbFWv7-eSTWoqrQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAAYfoV9GPS6LxJs+LcW0YtR7+bOgvehS_zQSQbbtXzquecrH2A@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAO5K3OexdCQDygmney15aqkevfwY_L+wRXtKJdWZ1LH7KSt3Rw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAYfoV92e=FrO=mb84GiaxKNCuFAAj8+8FnB2_n-8hGMnvGwAw@mail.gmail.com>

How did you manage that? Did Philip Scott contact you or did you find
some other way in?

Either way it's good news.

On 03/07/2014, Vytautas D <vytdau at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Duncan, you missed my announcement, which I think you will be happy to hear
> - we are doing a lecture/workshop or presentation to promote Perl at
> University of Portsmouth some time between October-December. Format or time
> allowance for the talk is not yet agreed, but I would like to know how much
> time we think we need and how many of us wants to participate?
>
> I think our goal should be to invite students to our meetings & suggest to
> make Perl club at UoP.
>
> Warren came back from Mojo conference in Norway and are planning to offer
> Mojo community to make the next year Mojo conference at Southampton.
>
> In overall, it was very productive meeting, where we talked a lot about
> Perl and we all cheered that CGI was at last deprecated, nice MOP might
> come to core & hopefully by 5.22 we might have nice sub signatures finished
> & etc etc :)
>
> Hope you like these news :)
> Vytas
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 8:28 PM, GARLAND DUNCAN
> <duncan.garland at ntlworld.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Can't make it this month.
>>
>> On 01/07/2014, Tim Retout <tim at retout.co.uk> wrote:
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > Southampton Perl Mongers will meet as usual at 8pm at the Platform
>> > Tavern
>> > tomorrow (Wednesday).
>> >
>> > Kind regards,
>> >
>> > Tim
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> Southampton-pm mailing list
>> Southampton-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/southampton-pm
>>
>

From tim at retout.co.uk  Thu Jul  3 14:41:52 2014
From: tim at retout.co.uk (Tim Retout)
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2014 22:41:52 +0100
Subject: [Southampton-pm] Learning Rust
Message-ID: <CADc0ge_RLon-OYp_oaj5FP3c_txxo3T2qWQBRs351woNT60fxA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Bear with me, I'm hoping this will not in fact be off-topic. :)

Last night, Anton and I agreed that we would learn Rust, more to look
at another language than anything else (at least in my case).  We each
vetoed COBOL and Golang, as I recall.

Rust seems quite different to Perl - the emphasis seems to be on
memory safety (so the compiler prevents dangling pointers and so on).
It has compile-time type checking.  It seems designed to interoperate
with C code quite easily - structs are laid out identically in memory,
which I presume helps.

I've started by reading these links today:

http://www.rust-lang.org/
http://doc.rust-lang.org/tutorial.html

I've got half an idea in mind that an NNTP reader might be a useful
project... a bit old school, but there are NNTP interfaces to lots of
mailing lists, and networking libraries could use a bit of type
safety/concurrency, IMHO.

To preempt the question about why it's good to look at other languages
- it's the exposure to different concepts/ideas that should make it
worth it, even if I don't end up writing any production code using
Rust.  Look at how much the Perl community has borrowed from Ruby
recently!  Or read the stackexchange version:

https://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/136133/why-should-i-learn-a-new-programming-language

So if anyone's interested in joining in, do feel free, and we can
compare notes at the next meeting.  I'll post updates here if they
turn out to be interesting enough!

-- 
Tim Retout <tim at retout.co.uk>

From vytdau at gmail.com  Thu Jul 10 03:28:34 2014
From: vytdau at gmail.com (Vytautas D)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 11:28:34 +0100
Subject: [Southampton-pm] FYI
Message-ID: <CAO5K3OfJEXEOLQWuv7nu=sr08kvtY2AHbJDPoHXNMusrXZGZEA@mail.gmail.com>

Some of you might be interested at this:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2083389021/create-perl-competition-to-the-php-content-managem
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From vytdau at gmail.com  Thu Jul 10 03:36:34 2014
From: vytdau at gmail.com (Vytautas D)
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2014 11:36:34 +0100
Subject: [Southampton-pm] July meeting
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It's not through Philip Scott, I contacted head of computing department,
who promised to fit a talk or something


On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 7:51 PM, GARLAND DUNCAN <duncan.garland at ntlworld.com>
wrote:

> How did you manage that? Did Philip Scott contact you or did you find
> some other way in?
>
> Either way it's good news.
>
> On 03/07/2014, Vytautas D <vytdau at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Duncan, you missed my announcement, which I think you will be happy to
> hear
> > - we are doing a lecture/workshop or presentation to promote Perl at
> > University of Portsmouth some time between October-December. Format or
> time
> > allowance for the talk is not yet agreed, but I would like to know how
> much
> > time we think we need and how many of us wants to participate?
> >
> > I think our goal should be to invite students to our meetings & suggest
> to
> > make Perl club at UoP.
> >
> > Warren came back from Mojo conference in Norway and are planning to offer
> > Mojo community to make the next year Mojo conference at Southampton.
> >
> > In overall, it was very productive meeting, where we talked a lot about
> > Perl and we all cheered that CGI was at last deprecated, nice MOP might
> > come to core & hopefully by 5.22 we might have nice sub signatures
> finished
> > & etc etc :)
> >
> > Hope you like these news :)
> > Vytas
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 8:28 PM, GARLAND DUNCAN
> > <duncan.garland at ntlworld.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Can't make it this month.
> >>
> >> On 01/07/2014, Tim Retout <tim at retout.co.uk> wrote:
> >> > Hi all,
> >> >
> >> > Southampton Perl Mongers will meet as usual at 8pm at the Platform
> >> > Tavern
> >> > tomorrow (Wednesday).
> >> >
> >> > Kind regards,
> >> >
> >> > Tim
> >> >
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Southampton-pm mailing list
> >> Southampton-pm at pm.org
> >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/southampton-pm
> >>
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Southampton-pm mailing list
> Southampton-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/southampton-pm
>
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From vytdau at gmail.com  Mon Jul 14 08:55:22 2014
From: vytdau at gmail.com (Vytautas D)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 16:55:22 +0100
Subject: [Southampton-pm] London PM technical meeting on Thursday 24th of
	July
Message-ID: <CAO5K3Of1sXBM1YY24W7LZDzOoFgJhDmOwmvHG7WS1WmD-kLgKQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Is anyone interested in going to London Perl Mongers technical meeting on
Thursday 24th of July? It starts at 18.30.

For some time now, I am thinking to organise Southampton PM technical
meeting, though I never attended one, so I would like to see how they
organise it before I do something silly (:

see here for details:
http://perlhacks.com/2014/07/london-perl-mongers-meeting/

Vytas
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From duncan.garland at ntlworld.com  Mon Jul 14 12:38:43 2014
From: duncan.garland at ntlworld.com (GARLAND DUNCAN)
Date: Mon, 14 Jul 2014 20:38:43 +0100
Subject: [Southampton-pm] London PM technical meeting on Thursday 24th
	of July
In-Reply-To: <CAO5K3Of1sXBM1YY24W7LZDzOoFgJhDmOwmvHG7WS1WmD-kLgKQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO5K3Of1sXBM1YY24W7LZDzOoFgJhDmOwmvHG7WS1WmD-kLgKQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAAYfoV9FpbWwtE43uGwbDEHF5P_01uDkWhTcPFx03C=cYyX0cA@mail.gmail.com>

I normally go, but I'll be goimg straight from Thames Ditton so I
can't offer a lift.

On 14/07/2014, Vytautas D <vytdau at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is anyone interested in going to London Perl Mongers technical meeting on
> Thursday 24th of July? It starts at 18.30.
>
> For some time now, I am thinking to organise Southampton PM technical
> meeting, though I never attended one, so I would like to see how they
> organise it before I do something silly (:
>
> see here for details:
> http://perlhacks.com/2014/07/london-perl-mongers-meeting/
>
> Vytas
>

From tim at retout.co.uk  Tue Jul 15 07:20:57 2014
From: tim at retout.co.uk (Tim Retout)
Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 15:20:57 +0100
Subject: [Southampton-pm] London PM technical meeting on Thursday 24th
	of July
In-Reply-To: <CAO5K3Of1sXBM1YY24W7LZDzOoFgJhDmOwmvHG7WS1WmD-kLgKQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO5K3Of1sXBM1YY24W7LZDzOoFgJhDmOwmvHG7WS1WmD-kLgKQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CADc0ge-MQy_mOaNgYpxd5stimM7oan95-JQS8dZnQqjW0j4y6Q@mail.gmail.com>

OX!  I want to know if anyone's using it in production, because it
looks so modular...

I may well join you.

On 14 July 2014 16:55, Vytautas D <vytdau at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is anyone interested in going to London Perl Mongers technical meeting on
> Thursday 24th of July? It starts at 18.30.
>
> For some time now, I am thinking to organise Southampton PM technical
> meeting, though I never attended one, so I would like to see how they
> organise it before I do something silly (:
>
> see here for details:
> http://perlhacks.com/2014/07/london-perl-mongers-meeting/
>
> Vytas
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Southampton-pm mailing list
> Southampton-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/southampton-pm



-- 
Tim Retout <tim at retout.co.uk>