From pap at sotonians.org.uk Fri Sep 15 16:02:30 2000 From: pap at sotonians.org.uk (Paul Taylor) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:56 2004 Subject: O'Reilly Catalog Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20000915214818.009582c0@mail.quik.co.uk> Hello Mongers, I've recently received around four O'Reilly catalogues of their entire book range. Apparently, they often let established mongers get free copies of their books and such-like. I think the reality is that they know we're a soft target for their range of books. Anyway, I know that some of you are fans of the O'Reilly books, so I'll dish the cats out to whoever wants them. I could post them, but you'll get them when the 16th edition of the Camel book is out and Perl lets you program in a mixture of ASCII, Cyrillic and all 10,000-odd Chinese ideograms simultaneously. In other words, it'd probably be a good idea to have an informal meet to discuss stuff. I invite members of the group, as well as their Perl-curious friends. I think a crap pub on a quiet night might be in order. Any preferences? Also, anytime in the next couple of weeks is cool, but it might be nice to arrive at some consensus. Anyways, get back to the list. State availability. Turn up. Speak. Go home and question whether being a Monger *really* impresses the girls... Pap. From wayne at metaverse.fsnet.co.uk Sat Sep 16 13:35:24 2000 From: wayne at metaverse.fsnet.co.uk (wayne keenan) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:56 2004 Subject: O'Reilly Catalog References: <4.2.0.58.20000915214818.009582c0@mail.quik.co.uk> Message-ID: <004d01c0200c$e4839960$ce100914@eu.csc.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Taylor" To: Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 10:02 PM Subject: O'Reilly Catalog Hi, > Hello Mongers, > > I've recently received around four O'Reilly catalogues of their entire book > range. Apparently, they often let established mongers get free copies of > their books and such-like. I think the reality is that they know we're a > soft target for their range of books. Anyway, I know that some of you are > fans of the O'Reilly books, so I'll dish the cats out to whoever wants them. I would like a copy thanks, and maybe free books too :) raffle them somehow??? :) > > I could post them, but you'll get them when the 16th edition of the Camel > book is out and Perl lets you program in a mixture of ASCII, Cyrillic and > all 10,000-odd Chinese ideograms simultaneously. In other words, it'd > probably be a good idea to have an informal meet to discuss stuff. That would also be the same time as PerlOS 4.5 takes the larger share of the entire OS industry, Perl domination, nah.... > I invite members of the group, as well as their Perl-curious friends. I > think a crap pub on a quiet night might be in order. Any > preferences? Also, anytime in the next couple of weeks is cool, but it > might be nice to arrive at some consensus. I' m easy... > > Anyways, get back to the list. State availability. Turn up. Speak. Go > home and question whether being a Monger *really* impresses the girls... greater than 7pm Mon-Fri. I'm flex. on all other times. Wayne From Gareth.Noyce at pennantplc.co.uk Mon Sep 18 03:24:14 2000 From: Gareth.Noyce at pennantplc.co.uk (Gareth Noyce) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:56 2004 Subject: O'Reilly Catalog Message-ID: > Hello Mongers, Hello... Re: Pub night, as far as I'm aware we have members in Portswood/Shirely and one in Hedge End. Anyone else I'm missing? I merely ask as that kinda dictates the pub that we meet at, my obvious preference being the brief... Re: O'Reilly... Gimme, Share the wealth etc... Meeting on a thursday is good for me, although I'll probably bow to consensus... G From Kevin.Cornmell at ntl.com Mon Sep 18 03:38:24 2000 From: Kevin.Cornmell at ntl.com (Kevin.Cornmell@ntl.com) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:56 2004 Subject: O'Reilly Catalog Message-ID: <69841B8175B8D3118C050060084A4316012B3881@mast-wi0-se02.private.ntl.com> Hi, Im from Chandlers Ford ... So anything this side of town is great. Thursday is good for me too. I can probably make it by 8.30 And as for impressing the girlies.. my wife thinks not, but she's not easily impressed ;) Theres an obvious joke here. regards Kevin Cornmell -----Original Message----- From: Gareth Noyce [mailto:Gareth.Noyce@pennantplc.co.uk] Sent: 18 September 2000 09:24 To: 'southampton-pm@happyfunball.pm.org' Subject: RE: O'Reilly Catalog > Hello Mongers, Hello... Re: Pub night, as far as I'm aware we have members in Portswood/Shirely and one in Hedge End. Anyone else I'm missing? I merely ask as that kinda dictates the pub that we meet at, my obvious preference being the brief... Re: O'Reilly... Gimme, Share the wealth etc... Meeting on a thursday is good for me, although I'll probably bow to consensus... G From Gareth.Noyce at pennantplc.co.uk Mon Sep 18 03:45:50 2000 From: Gareth.Noyce at pennantplc.co.uk (Gareth Noyce) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:56 2004 Subject: O'Reilly Catalog Message-ID: > Im from Chandlers Ford ... > So anything this side of town is great. So Portswood would be Ok? > Thursday is good for me too. > > I can probably make it by 8.30 Same for me. Anything before 8:30 is pants... > And as for impressing the girlies.. my wife thinks not, but > she's not easily > impressed ;) Theres an obvious joke here. Must control fingers of sarcasm... ;) Cheers G From pap at sotonians.org.uk Mon Sep 18 04:48:18 2000 From: pap at sotonians.org.uk (Pap Taylor) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:57 2004 Subject: Meeting nights. In-Reply-To: ; from Gareth.Noyce@pennantplc.co.uk on Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 09:45:50AM +0100 References: Message-ID: <20000918104818.A377@kylie.office.vi.net> Thursdays are cool for me too (social calendar not like it used to be). I'm ok on Portswood too, although we need to make sure that there isn't going to be some wailing blues act in the pub. Time sounds reasonable too. Won't be getting from London til around eight anyway. I'd say that a week this Thursday ( 28th Sept ) looks promising; we'll have time to propose a mini-agenda, although probably the best thing to do for an intro session is work out where people's strengths and interests lie. P. From Gareth.Noyce at pennantplc.co.uk Mon Sep 18 05:06:04 2000 From: Gareth.Noyce at pennantplc.co.uk (Gareth Noyce) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:57 2004 Subject: Meeting nights. Message-ID: > Thursdays are cool for me too (social calendar not like it > used to be). I'm > ok on Portswood too, although we need to make sure that there > isn't going to > be some wailing blues act in the pub. Time sounds reasonable We could always go to the Dolphin/Mitre... or somewhere less likely to have an Irish Jam sesh... Brief is good because of comfy chairs! G From pap at sotonians.org.uk Mon Sep 18 05:15:40 2000 From: pap at sotonians.org.uk (Pap Taylor) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:57 2004 Subject: Meeting nights. In-Reply-To: ; from Gareth.Noyce@pennantplc.co.uk on Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 11:06:04AM +0100 References: Message-ID: <20000918111540.A558@kylie.office.vi.net> > We could always go to the Dolphin/Mitre... or somewhere less likely to have > an Irish Jam sesh... Brief is good because of comfy chairs! Ok. I might nip out this Thursday to do a bit of reconnaissance work. All in the cause of a greater understanding of Perl, of course. P. From Kevin.Cornmell at ntl.com Mon Sep 18 09:07:23 2000 From: Kevin.Cornmell at ntl.com (Kevin.Cornmell@ntl.com) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:57 2004 Subject: Meeting nights. Message-ID: <69841B8175B8D3118C050060084A4316012B3888@mast-wi0-se02.private.ntl.com> Thurday 28th is good for me too. -----Original Message----- From: Pap Taylor [mailto:pap@sotonians.org.uk] Sent: 18 September 2000 10:48 To: southampton-pm@happyfunball.pm.org Subject: Meeting nights. Thursdays are cool for me too (social calendar not like it used to be). I'm ok on Portswood too, although we need to make sure that there isn't going to be some wailing blues act in the pub. Time sounds reasonable too. Won't be getting from London til around eight anyway. I'd say that a week this Thursday ( 28th Sept ) looks promising; we'll have time to propose a mini-agenda, although probably the best thing to do for an intro session is work out where people's strengths and interests lie. P. From wayne at metaverse.fsnet.co.uk Mon Sep 18 16:38:07 2000 From: wayne at metaverse.fsnet.co.uk (wayne keenan) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:57 2004 Subject: Meeting nights. References: Message-ID: <004301c021b8$c39b2e40$ce100914@eu.csc.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gareth Noyce" To: Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 11:06 AM Subject: RE: Meeting nights. > > Thursdays are cool for me too (social calendar not like it > > used to be). I'm > > ok on Portswood too, although we need to make sure that there > > isn't going to > > be some wailing blues act in the pub. Time sounds reasonable > > We could always go to the Dolphin/Mitre... or somewhere less likely to have > an Irish Jam sesh... Brief is good because of comfy chairs! Thursday 28th cool for me, comfy chairs more so. W From pap at sotonians.org.uk Mon Sep 25 06:22:26 2000 From: pap at sotonians.org.uk (Pap Taylor) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:57 2004 Subject: Thursday night agenda. Message-ID: <20000925122226.A12747@kylie.office.vi.net> Hello Perl Mongers, Thursday night is almost upon us, so now would probably be an opportune time to discuss the Perl Monger meeting. Venue ===== We really need a mix between accessible and noise-level here. The Brief looks to be the winner here, unless they've got a band on. That being the case, we can trundle 30metres down the road to the Hobbit, where it'll be quiet in at least one place. Bring your jackets in case we sit in the garden. Time ==== 8pm sounds good for me, and we can let the meet go on until about half-nine. Be prompt if you can. Agenda ====== Suggested agenda is :- + Introductions - Easy, really. Unless someone fancies being evasive. + Southampton.pm.org website - Nothing happening with this right now. Expect that to change. + Local business contacts. - Discussion on how to gauge level of Perl usage in the Southampton area. Additionally, strategies on contacting local companies in the city. Ok, comments back to the list. If you have any Perly-friends that you want to bring along, all the better. P. From Kevin.Cornmell at ntl.com Mon Sep 25 10:35:04 2000 From: Kevin.Cornmell at ntl.com (Kevin.Cornmell@ntl.com) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:57 2004 Subject: Thursday night agenda. Message-ID: <69841B8175B8D3118C050060084A4316012B38C0@mast-wi0-se02.private.ntl.com> Hi, Can you do something obvious like have the camel book on the table so I can guess where to sit. Failing that a line of Guinesses. I dont do the red carnation thing... regards Kevin Cornmell -----Original Message----- From: Pap Taylor [mailto:pap@sotonians.org.uk] Sent: 25 September 2000 12:22 To: Southampton.pm mailing list. Subject: Thursday night agenda. Hello Perl Mongers, Thursday night is almost upon us, so now would probably be an opportune time to discuss the Perl Monger meeting. Venue ===== We really need a mix between accessible and noise-level here. The Brief looks to be the winner here, unless they've got a band on. That being the case, we can trundle 30metres down the road to the Hobbit, where it'll be quiet in at least one place. Bring your jackets in case we sit in the garden. Time ==== 8pm sounds good for me, and we can let the meet go on until about half-nine. Be prompt if you can. Agenda ====== Suggested agenda is :- + Introductions - Easy, really. Unless someone fancies being evasive. + Southampton.pm.org website - Nothing happening with this right now. Expect that to change. + Local business contacts. - Discussion on how to gauge level of Perl usage in the Southampton area. Additionally, strategies on contacting local companies in the city. Ok, comments back to the list. If you have any Perly-friends that you want to bring along, all the better. P. From Gareth.Noyce at pennantplc.co.uk Mon Sep 25 10:57:09 2000 From: Gareth.Noyce at pennantplc.co.uk (Gareth Noyce) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:57 2004 Subject: Thursday night agenda. Message-ID: > Hi, > > Can you do something obvious like have the camel book on the table > so I can guess where to sit. Failing that a line of Guinesses. > > I dont do the red carnation thing... > > regards > > Kevin Cornmell That's a good point. I'll bring a perl book (O'reilly) and leave it visible on a table/back of my coat so you can at least spot one of us... Alternatively, if you get stuck -- Look for: * One seriously tall (~6ft 3) individual with four pints in front of him and enough hair to make him look like Chewbacca (wayne) * One medium build 'Dominic Diamond'/'Ben Elton' look-a-like with glasses, a dodgy goatee - playing with his Nokia 7110 trying to look like Neo (me) * One extremely short person (making most of the noise in the bar) telling the other two how much he loves us (Pap)... If you want my mobile number so you can SMS me if you get stuck let me know... From wayne at metaverse.fsnet.co.uk Mon Sep 25 16:24:53 2000 From: wayne at metaverse.fsnet.co.uk (wayne keenan) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:57 2004 Subject: Thursday night agenda. References: <69841B8175B8D3118C050060084A4316012B38C0@mast-wi0-se02.private.ntl.com> Message-ID: <002901c02737$0e195680$ce100914@eu.csc.com> How about a fluffy toy camel? I'll try and find it, but depending how much we (or I) get laughed at, it might not be making an appearance! So dont count on it. I think Gareths descriprions are, well, you'll see! Wayne ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 4:35 PM Subject: RE: Thursday night agenda. > Hi, > > Can you do something obvious like have the camel book on the table > so I can guess where to sit. Failing that a line of Guinesses. > > I dont do the red carnation thing... > > regards > > Kevin Cornmell > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pap Taylor [mailto:pap@sotonians.org.uk] > Sent: 25 September 2000 12:22 > To: Southampton.pm mailing list. > Subject: Thursday night agenda. > > > Hello Perl Mongers, > > Thursday night is almost upon us, so now would probably be an opportune time > to discuss the Perl Monger meeting. > > Venue > ===== > We really need a mix between accessible and noise-level here. The Brief > looks > to be the winner here, unless they've got a band on. That being the case, > we > can trundle 30metres down the road to the Hobbit, where it'll be quiet in at > least one place. Bring your jackets in case we sit in the garden. > > Time > ==== > 8pm sounds good for me, and we can let the meet go on until about half-nine. > Be prompt if you can. > > Agenda > ====== > > Suggested agenda is :- > > + Introductions > - Easy, really. Unless someone fancies being evasive. > > + Southampton.pm.org website > - Nothing happening with this right now. Expect that to change. > > + Local business contacts. > - Discussion on how to gauge level of Perl usage in the Southampton area. > Additionally, strategies on contacting local companies in the city. > > Ok, comments back to the list. If you have any Perly-friends that you want > to bring along, all the better. > > P. > From wayne at metaverse.fsnet.co.uk Mon Sep 25 16:44:31 2000 From: wayne at metaverse.fsnet.co.uk (wayne keenan) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:57 2004 Subject: got the t-shirt? Message-ID: <006601c02739$ca87f220$ce100914@eu.csc.com> I'm going to obtain the t-shirt and the cap (3-4 weeks :( ), anybody else interested? http://orders.geekstuff.com/catalog.cgi?page=perlmongers.html&cart_id= anyone know of a closer one? Regards Wayne -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/archives/southampton-pm/attachments/20000925/210f1592/attachment.htm From wayne at metaverse.fsnet.co.uk Mon Sep 25 16:50:34 2000 From: wayne at metaverse.fsnet.co.uk (wayne keenan) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:57 2004 Subject: wish list... Message-ID: <007101c0273a$a2916d40$ce100914@eu.csc.com> Is anybody else waiting for the O'Reilly "Perl and XML" book? I think thats a bit of a hole in the Perl coverage. Regards Wayne -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/archives/southampton-pm/attachments/20000925/269555a8/attachment.htm From Gareth.Noyce at pennantplc.co.uk Tue Sep 26 02:31:12 2000 From: Gareth.Noyce at pennantplc.co.uk (Gareth Noyce) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:57 2004 Subject: wish list... Message-ID: Is anybody else waiting for the O'Reilly "Perl and XML" book? I think thats a bit of a hole in the Perl coverage. Regards Wayne [Gareth Noyce] Hate to be the only monger that's not a perl bigot, but I'd seriously use Python for any HC XML mangling. Simple stuff in Perl is good (XML::simple), but I prefer the Python approach. It's closer to the output from parsers such as nsgmls. All SGML stuff is OO/Tree/Grove based now, and it's a shit load easier to traverse an object tree in Python IMHO... But, I'm still waiting for someone to loan me the OO Perl book! ;) From Kevin.Cornmell at ntl.com Thu Sep 28 10:12:34 2000 From: Kevin.Cornmell at ntl.com (Kevin.Cornmell@ntl.com) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:57 2004 Subject: kids stop play Message-ID: <69841B8175B8D3118C050060084A4316012B38E3@mast-wi0-se02.private.ntl.com> Sorry Mongers, Sick kids stop play, both my wee-spawn have spent last night heeving with a cold bug, and there aint enough dilithium crystal left in the old 'gal for her to manage on her own tonight. Next time. > Kevin Cornmell > Ingres DBA - Winnersh Data Centre > * Kevin.Cornmell@ntl.com > * 0118-954-4161 > > > > From Gareth.Noyce at pennantplc.co.uk Thu Sep 28 10:35:39 2000 From: Gareth.Noyce at pennantplc.co.uk (Gareth Noyce) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:57 2004 Subject: kids stop play Message-ID: Oh, that's a shame. Hope they get well soon. I was really looking forward to meeting you as well! Shall we arrange a meeting for next week so we can all introduce each other? G > Sorry Mongers, > > Sick kids stop play, both my wee-spawn have spent last night > heeving with a > cold bug, > and there aint enough dilithium crystal left in the old 'gal > for her to > manage on her own > tonight. > > Next time. > > > Kevin Cornmell > > Ingres DBA - Winnersh Data Centre > > * Kevin.Cornmell@ntl.com > > * 0118-954-4161 > > > > > > > > > From pap at sotonians.org.uk Thu Sep 28 10:37:32 2000 From: pap at sotonians.org.uk (Pap Taylor) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:57 2004 Subject: kids stop play In-Reply-To: ; from Gareth.Noyce@pennantplc.co.uk on Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 04:35:39PM +0100 References: Message-ID: <20000928163732.A20767@kylie.office.vi.net> On Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 04:35:39PM +0100, Gareth Noyce wrote: > Oh, that's a shame. Hope they get well soon. I was really looking forward to > meeting you as well! > > Shall we arrange a meeting for next week so we can all introduce each other? > I'm cool with that. Maybe get some other people over too. P. From Kevin.Cornmell at ntl.com Thu Sep 28 10:39:04 2000 From: Kevin.Cornmell at ntl.com (Kevin.Cornmell@ntl.com) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:57 2004 Subject: kids stop play Message-ID: <69841B8175B8D3118C050060084A4316012B38E7@mast-wi0-se02.private.ntl.com> Gareth, Same time same place will do fine. regards Kevin -----Original Message----- From: Gareth Noyce [mailto:Gareth.Noyce@pennantplc.co.uk] Sent: 28 September 2000 16:36 To: 'southampton-pm@happyfunball.pm.org' Subject: RE: kids stop play Oh, that's a shame. Hope they get well soon. I was really looking forward to meeting you as well! Shall we arrange a meeting for next week so we can all introduce each other? G > Sorry Mongers, > > Sick kids stop play, both my wee-spawn have spent last night > heeving with a > cold bug, > and there aint enough dilithium crystal left in the old 'gal > for her to > manage on her own > tonight. > > Next time. > > > Kevin Cornmell > > Ingres DBA - Winnersh Data Centre > > * Kevin.Cornmell@ntl.com > > * 0118-954-4161 > > > > > > > > > From Gareth.Noyce at pennantplc.co.uk Thu Sep 28 10:39:47 2000 From: Gareth.Noyce at pennantplc.co.uk (Gareth Noyce) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:57 2004 Subject: kids stop play Message-ID: > On Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 04:35:39PM +0100, Gareth Noyce wrote: > > Oh, that's a shame. Hope they get well soon. I was really > looking forward to > > meeting you as well! > > > > Shall we arrange a meeting for next week so we can all > introduce each other? > > > > I'm cool with that. Maybe get some other people over too. I assume that tonights meeting is going ahead? From Gareth.Noyce at pennantplc.co.uk Thu Sep 28 10:41:58 2000 From: Gareth.Noyce at pennantplc.co.uk (Gareth Noyce) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:57 2004 Subject: kids stop play Message-ID: Cool. See you then... > Gareth, > > Same time same place will do fine. > > regards > > Kevin From pap at sotonians.org.uk Thu Sep 28 10:42:03 2000 From: pap at sotonians.org.uk (Pap Taylor) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:57 2004 Subject: kids stop play In-Reply-To: ; from Gareth.Noyce@pennantplc.co.uk on Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 04:39:47PM +0100 References: Message-ID: <20000928164203.A20808@kylie.office.vi.net> On Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 04:39:47PM +0100, Gareth Noyce wrote: > > I assume that tonights meeting is going ahead? > Yep. There's still the issue of web sites, colo's and things like that to cover. P. From Gareth.Noyce at pennantplc.co.uk Thu Sep 28 10:44:25 2000 From: Gareth.Noyce at pennantplc.co.uk (Gareth Noyce) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:57 2004 Subject: kids stop play Message-ID: > On Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 04:39:47PM +0100, Gareth Noyce wrote: > > > > I assume that tonights meeting is going ahead? > > > > Yep. There's still the issue of web sites, colo's and things > like that to > cover. Ok, See you at the brief at 8pm. G