From pap at sotonians.org.uk Mon Jul 3 05:01:03 2000 From: pap at sotonians.org.uk (Pap Taylor) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:56 2004 Subject: [tidbit@sri.net: golf invite (fwd)] Message-ID: <20000703110103.A4189@kylie.office.vi.net> What do you reckon? I'm not sure I fancy being shown up.... P. ----- Forwarded message from brian d foy ----- Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 00:52:39 -0400 (EDT) From: brian d foy To: groups@lists.panix.com, news@perl.org, perl-mongers-announce@happyfunball.pm.org Subject: golf invite (fwd) ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 19:11:24 -0400 From: Uri Guttman To: brian d foy Subject: golf invite brian, lease forward this to the monger group leaders and ask them to forward it to their local lists. note, they have first crack at registering and in a few days i will announce it everywhere else. you can say something to that effect (and it is in the invitation too). thanx, uri Announcing the First Annual Perl Golf Apocalypse Larry Wall, the father of Perl, has observed that the three virtues of a programmer are laziness, impatience, and hubris. Laziness has been explained as doing more with less. A variation of that is doing the same with less. For quite a while the newsgroup comp.lang.perl.misc has had threads where each poster was trying to solve a basic problem with shorter code than the previous post. This type of coding competition was named Perl Golf by Greg Bacon because in both Perl and physical golf the goal is to finish with the fewest (key)strokes. Now the Perl Golf Committee (led by Uri, who conceived the idea) has been hard at work organizing a Perl Golf Tournament for the 4th Perl Conference in Monterey this July. The Perl Golf Apocalypse (PGA) is for 10 teams, each comprised of up to 3 Perl hackers. Each team will be given its own computer to use and will to try to solve a set of simple problems by writing a short piece of Perl code. Each team must submit its code, which will then be tested and compared to the answers from the other teams. Each problem (or hole as we call them) will be given to all the teams at the same time and will have a time limit (about 5-7 minutes, depending on the hole). There will be 9 holes in all and after 4 of them the 5 lowest scoring teams will be cut (just like in real golf tournaments). There are three ways to score points on a hole. * First, if the code submitted by a team correctly solves the problem, 1 point is awarded. * Second, the correct answer with the fewest keystrokes is awarded 6 points with the next two runners up getting 5 and 4 points each. * Third, the correct answer which was submitted the earliest, is awarded 3 points with the next two runners up getting 2 and 1 points each. So a team can earn a maximum of 10 points on one hole. It is important to note that the execution speed of the code is not a factor in scoring. The holes will be judged by a Perl script created by us. It will check the correctness of all the submissions, rank them by the shortest code and also rank them by the timestamps on the submitted answer files. Then the script will award points and keep track of scores for each team. Another script will be used by the commentators to display the current point totals for the teams, the scoring for a given hole and the actual code submitted by the teams. After all the holes are finished, the teams will be ranked by score, and from highest to lowest, they will be allowed to choose their prizes. The prize list includes computers, refrigerators stuffed with booty, cruise discounts, cdroms, books, clothing, etc. Everyone who enters the tournament is guaranteed a prize. Our two guests, Chip Salzenberg and Chris Nandor will provide an entertaining commentary on the proceedings. This invitation is being sent to the Perl Mongers in advance of other groups to give you a first chance to register to play in the PGA. Groups of 3 or 2 registering together as a team will be given preference over single entrants, so get your local monger group to enter a team. Send your registration request to golf@sysarch.com with this information: Monger Affiliation Team Name Member Count Real name and email for each team member If you are a single entrant, do you want us to put you on a team? Optionally, tell us your level of perl experience You can also visit the Perl Golf page at http://www.sysarch.com/perl/golf/ which has the PGA rules and invitation, the prize and sponsor list, a real golfing thread from c.l.p.misc, and more. The Perl Golf Apocalypse Team Uri Guttman Brand Hilton Ronald Kimball Larry Rosler Damian Conway -- Uri Guttman --------- uri@sysarch.com ---------- http://www.sysarch.com SYStems ARCHitecture, Software Engineering, Perl, Internet, UNIX Consulting The Perl Books Page ----------- http://www.sysarch.com/cgi-bin/perl_books The Best Search Engine on the Net ---------- http://www.northernlight.com **Majordomo list services provided by PANIX ** **To Unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe groups" to majordomo@lists.pm.org** ----- End forwarded message ----- From Gareth.Noyce at pennantplc.co.uk Mon Jul 3 05:06:34 2000 From: Gareth.Noyce at pennantplc.co.uk (Gareth Noyce) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:06:56 2004 Subject: [tidbit@sri.net: golf invite (fwd)] Message-ID: Yeah right. We'd stand fuck all chance... Let's go for it...! :) > -----Original Message----- > From: Pap Taylor [mailto:pap@sotonians.org.uk] > Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 11:01 AM > To: southampton-pm@happyfunball.pm.org > Subject: [tidbit@sri.net: golf invite (fwd)] > > > What do you reckon? I'm not sure I fancy being shown up.... > > P. > > ----- Forwarded message from brian d foy ----- > > Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 00:52:39 -0400 (EDT) > From: brian d foy > To: groups@lists.panix.com, news@perl.org, > perl-mongers-announce@happyfunball.pm.org > Subject: golf invite (fwd) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 19:11:24 -0400 > From: Uri Guttman > To: brian d foy > Subject: golf invite > > > brian, > > lease forward this to the monger group leaders and ask them to forward > it to their local lists. note, they have first crack at > registering and > in a few days i will announce it everywhere else. you can say > something > to that effect (and it is in the invitation too). > > thanx, > > uri > > Announcing the First Annual Perl Golf Apocalypse > > Larry Wall, the father of Perl, has observed that the three > virtues of a > programmer are laziness, impatience, and hubris. Laziness has been > explained as doing more with less. A variation of that is > doing the same > with less. For quite a while the newsgroup comp.lang.perl.misc has had > threads where each poster was trying to solve a basic problem with > shorter code than the previous post. This type of coding > competition was > named Perl Golf by Greg Bacon because in both Perl and > physical golf the > goal is to finish with the fewest (key)strokes. > > Now the Perl Golf Committee (led by Uri, who conceived the > idea) has been > hard at work organizing a Perl Golf Tournament for the 4th > Perl Conference > in Monterey this July. > > The Perl Golf Apocalypse (PGA) is for 10 teams, each > comprised of up to 3 > Perl hackers. Each team will be given its own computer to use and will > to try to solve a set of simple problems by writing a short piece of > Perl code. Each team must submit its code, which will then > be tested and > compared to the answers from the other teams. Each problem > (or hole as > we call them) will be given to all the teams at the same time and will > have a time limit (about 5-7 minutes, depending on the hole). There > will be 9 holes in all and after 4 of them the 5 lowest scoring teams > will be cut (just like in real golf tournaments). > > There are three ways to score points on a hole. > > * First, if the code submitted by a team correctly solves the > problem, 1 point is awarded. > > * Second, the correct answer with the fewest keystrokes is awarded 6 > points with the next two runners up getting 5 and 4 points each. > > * Third, the correct answer which was submitted the earliest, is > awarded 3 points with the next two runners up getting 2 > and 1 points > each. > > So a team can earn a maximum of 10 points on one hole. It is > important > to note that the execution speed of the code is not a factor > in scoring. > > The holes will be judged by a Perl script created by us. It will check > the correctness of all the submissions, rank them by the shortest code > and also rank them by the timestamps on the submitted answer > files. Then > the script will award points and keep track of scores for each > team. Another script will be used by the commentators to display the > current point totals for the teams, the scoring for a given > hole and the > actual code submitted by the teams. > > After all the holes are finished, the teams will be ranked by > score, and > from highest to lowest, they will be allowed to choose their > prizes. The > prize list includes computers, refrigerators stuffed with > booty, cruise > discounts, cdroms, books, clothing, etc. Everyone who enters the > tournament is guaranteed a prize. > > Our two guests, Chip Salzenberg and Chris Nandor will provide > an entertaining commentary on the proceedings. > > > This invitation is being sent to the Perl Mongers in advance of other > groups to give you a first chance to register to play in the PGA. > Groups of 3 or 2 registering together as a team will be given > preference > over single entrants, so get your local monger group to enter a team. > > Send your registration request to golf@sysarch.com with this > information: > > Monger Affiliation > Team Name > Member Count > Real name and email for each team member > > If you are a single entrant, do you want us to put you on a > team? > > Optionally, tell us your level of perl experience > > You can also visit the Perl Golf page at > http://www.sysarch.com/perl/golf/ which has the PGA rules and > invitation, the prize and sponsor list, a real golfing thread from > c.l.p.misc, and more. > > The Perl Golf Apocalypse Team > > Uri Guttman > Brand Hilton > Ronald Kimball > Larry Rosler > Damian Conway > > > > -- > Uri Guttman --------- uri@sysarch.com ---------- http://www.sysarch.com SYStems ARCHitecture, Software Engineering, Perl, Internet, UNIX Consulting The Perl Books Page ----------- http://www.sysarch.com/cgi-bin/perl_books The Best Search Engine on the Net ---------- http://www.northernlight.com **Majordomo list services provided by PANIX ** **To Unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe groups" to majordomo@lists.pm.org** ----- End forwarded message -----