From mm at yuhu.biz Sun Feb 3 16:02:07 2013 From: mm at yuhu.biz (Marian Marinov) Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2013 02:02:07 +0200 Subject: [Sofia-pm] Talk at the workshop? Message-ID: <510EFA7F.7040305@yuhu.biz> Guys, ????? ???? ?? ?? ?????? ??????? ?? ?????? ?? ???? ?? Perl Workshop-a? http://search.cpan.org/~beppu/Squatting-0.81/lib/Squatting.pm ?????? From mm at yuhu.biz Sun Feb 10 04:59:47 2013 From: mm at yuhu.biz (Marian Marinov) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 14:59:47 +0200 Subject: [Sofia-pm] Perl courses Message-ID: <511799C3.7070101@yuhu.biz> ?????, ????? ?? ? ?????????? ?? ???????? ? ?????? ??? ?? ??? ?????? ?? Perl ???? :) ?????? ???, ???? ? ?? ?? ?? ??????? ????, ?? ? ? ????? ?? ?? ??????? ???? ? ???????? ??? ???????? ??????. ??????, ????? ?? ?????? ???? ???????? ?? ? ???? ???? ????? ?? ???? ?? ??? ? hosting space :) ?????? From k.berov at gmail.com Sun Feb 10 12:11:43 2013 From: k.berov at gmail.com (Krasimir Berov) Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 22:11:43 +0200 Subject: [Sofia-pm] Perl courses Message-ID: ?????????, ???? ????? ???? (?????? ?? ?????? ?? ???????), ????? ????????? ?? ????????? :). http://www.i-can.eu/ ????????? ?? ???????? ???: https://github.com/kberov/PerlProgrammingCourse ????????? *.odp ?? ?? *_bg.odp ??????? ??????? ? ???????????. -- -- --------------------------------------------------- With Regards: ????? ????? https://www.linkedin.com/in/berov -------------------------------------------------- From k.berov at gmail.com Sun Feb 10 15:07:11 2013 From: k.berov at gmail.com (Krasimir Berov) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 01:07:11 +0200 Subject: [Sofia-pm] Perl courses In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: ?????????, ???? ????? ???? (?????? ?? ????? ?? ???????), ????? ????????? ?? ????????? :). ???? ?? ????????????, ?????? ?? ?? ????? ?????. http://www.i-can.eu/ ????????? ?? ???????? ???: https://github.com/kberov/PerlProgrammingCourse ????????? *.odp ?? ?? *_bg.odp ??????? ??????? ? ???????????. ?????, ?? ??? ??????? ?? Perl ??????????? ? ???????? ????? ???????? ?? ??????? ? ??????. ??????? ?? ???????? ????? ??? ??????? ?? ???? ? ??????? ??????????. ????? ????? ??????????: ---------------------------------------------------------- ??????? ?????, ?????? ?? ???????? ?????? ???? ? ??????????? ????????, ????? ?? ??????? ?????? ???????: ? http://academy.telerik.com/student-courses/external-courses/photoshop-course/ ??? ?????? ???????????, ??????? ? ?.?. ????? ???? ????? ?????????? ??????? (?? ?????????? ?????), ?????? ?????????? ????? ?? ???????? ??????? ? ?? ???????? ???????, ?? ?? ?????? ? ???????, ?? ?? ??????? ???? ?? ????? ? ???????: http://telerikacademy.com/Courses/Courses/Details/9 ?? ???????????? ?? ?????? ???? ?? ???????: 1) ???????????? (??? ??????????????? ????) 2) ?????? ???????? (1 ??? ???????? ?? 3-4 ????, ?? ?????? ?? 2 ??????) 3) ????? ?? ????????? (????? / ?????? / ???? / ?) 4) ???????? ?? ????? (???????? ?? ?????) ?????? ????? ???? ????, ????????? ??????? ????, ???????? ????? ? ???????. ???????? ??? ??????????? ?? ???????? ???????????, ?? ?? ???? ???????? ??????? ? ?? ??????? ????? + ?? ?????????? ? ??????? ????? ??????. ?? ???????? ???????? ??????? ?? ?????????? ? ?????? ???????? ?? ?? ???????. ??????? ? ??? ????????, ?? ?? ??????? ???????, ?????? ?? ? ???, ?? ?? ?????????. ????????, --------------------------------- -- --------------------------------------------------- With Regards: ????? ????? https://www.linkedin.com/in/berov -------------------------------------------------- From alexx.todorov at gmail.com Sun Feb 10 23:32:00 2013 From: alexx.todorov at gmail.com (Alexander Todorov) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:32:00 +0200 Subject: [Sofia-pm] Perl courses In-Reply-To: <511799C3.7070101@yuhu.biz> References: <511799C3.7070101@yuhu.biz> Message-ID: <51189E70.4000905@gmail.com> ?? 10.02.2013 14:59, Marian Marinov ??????: > ?????, > ????? ?? ? ?????????? ?? ???????? ? ?????? ??? ?? ??? ?????? ?? Perl ???? :) > > ?????? ???, ???? ? ?? ?? ?? ??????? ????, ?? ? ? ????? ?? ?? ??????? ???? ? > ???????? ??? ???????? ??????. > ?????? ??????, ??? ??? ??? ????? ?? ???????? ?? ???? ?? Perl, ????? ?? ??????? ????? ????? ?????. ?????? ? ?? ?????????. https://github.com/fosscourse/wiki/wiki/????_?_??????????????_??_Perl ??? ? ?? ?????????. ?????????, ??? ?? ? ???????. ????????, ?????. From mm at yuhu.biz Mon Feb 11 05:20:27 2013 From: mm at yuhu.biz (Marian Marinov) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 15:20:27 +0200 Subject: [Sofia-pm] Perl courses In-Reply-To: <51189E70.4000905@gmail.com> References: <511799C3.7070101@yuhu.biz> <51189E70.4000905@gmail.com> Message-ID: <5118F01B.4040704@yuhu.biz> On 02/11/2013 09:32 AM, Alexander Todorov wrote: > ?? 10.02.2013 14:59, Marian Marinov ??????: >> ?????, >> ????? ?? ? ?????????? ?? ???????? ? ?????? ??? ?? ??? ?????? ?? Perl ???? :) >> >> ?????? ???, ???? ? ?? ?? ?? ??????? ????, ?? ? ? ????? ?? ?? ??????? ???? ? >> ???????? ??? ???????? ??????. >> > > ?????? ??????, > ??? ??? ??? ????? ?? ???????? ?? ???? ?? Perl, ????? ?? ??????? ????? ????? ?????. ?????? ? ?? ?????????. > > https://github.com/fosscourse/wiki/wiki/????_?_??????????????_??_Perl > > ??? ? ?? ?????????. ?????????, ??? ?? ? ???????. ???? ??? ?? ??????? ? ???? ?? ?????? ? ??????, ?? ????? ????????? :) ?? ?? ????, ???? ?? ?? ???? ????? ????? ?? ???? ???? ?? ?? host-?? ?? sofia.pm.org. ?????? ?? ?? ???? ?????? ????? :) ?????? From mm at yuhu.biz Mon Feb 11 07:56:09 2013 From: mm at yuhu.biz (Marian Marinov) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 17:56:09 +0200 Subject: [Sofia-pm] Linux virtualization management with Perl Message-ID: <51191499.9000300@yuhu.biz> ????, ????? ?? ??? ?? ? ???????? ? ?????????? ?? management ?? VMs ?? Perl. ?? ????????? ?? CPAN ? ????? ??? ????????: - Sys::Virt - Linux::Virt Sys::Virt ??????? ????? ???? ?????? ?? libvirt(1.0.0 ??? ??-????) a ?????a ?????????? ???? ?? LTS Linux ?????????????. Linux::Virt ???? ???? ???????, ?? ??????? ????? ???????????????. ????????? ?? ?, ????? ?? ??? ???? ?? ? ????? ? ???? ???????? ?????? From k.berov at gmail.com Mon Feb 11 13:36:38 2013 From: k.berov at gmail.com (Krasimir Berov) Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 23:36:38 +0200 Subject: [Sofia-pm] Perl Courses Message-ID: ???? ?????? ??????? ???? ?? ?? ??????, ?? ??????????? "Modern Perl" ?? ???? ?????? ????? ???? ??? ?????. ???? ???? ?????????? ??? ????? ????. ??? ?????? ??? ????????: https://github.com/kberov/modern_perl_book/tree/master/sections_bg -- -- --------------------------------------------------- With Regards: ????? ????? https://www.linkedin.com/in/berov -------------------------------------------------- From pshangov at yahoo.com Tue Feb 12 02:17:19 2013 From: pshangov at yahoo.com (Peter Shangov) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 02:17:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sofia-pm] Fw: 25 Dev's needed that eat, sleep and live Perl! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1360664239.35331.YahooMailNeo@web160303.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> ????, booking.com ?????????? ?????? ? ?????? ?? ??????, ??? ?? ????? ?? ?? ????? ? ????????? ?? ???? ??-???? ??? ?? ?? ????. ?. ----- Forwarded Message ----- >From: Ingrid Eigenraam >To: "pshangov at yahoo.com" >Sent: Monday, 21 January 2013, 15:10 >Subject: 25 Dev's needed that eat, sleep and live Perl! > > > >Dear Peter, >? >I saw that you are the Group Leader of the Sofia?s Perl Mongers group and I like to ask for your help. >You probably heard about Booking.com - the #1 Accommodation website in the world ? from sponsoring the Open Source Community. >We are urgently in need of 25 Developers to join our great big Perl shop in Amsterdam. >The position is open to worldwide candidates. Visa (approximately 3 weeks) and relocation package are included! >For more information, check out the job description: Perl Developer. >Please spread the word among your group members and feel free to contact me in case of sponsoring events. >If you are interested, you can also contact me directly. >We appreciate your help! >? >Ingrid Eigenraam >Recruiter >? >Herengracht 597. >Amsterdam, 1017 CE, Netherlands >Direct: +31(0)207158393. > >Subsidiary of the Priceline Group (NASDAQ:PCLN) >41 languages, 85+ offices worldwide, 41,000+ global destinations, 400,000+ room nights booked every day >No booking fees, best price always guaranteed. > > From kumcho at vulcho.com Tue Feb 12 02:24:03 2013 From: kumcho at vulcho.com (Vulcho Nedelchev) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 12:24:03 +0200 Subject: [Sofia-pm] Fw: 25 Dev's needed that eat, sleep and live Perl! In-Reply-To: <1360664239.35331.YahooMailNeo@web160303.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1360664239.35331.YahooMailNeo@web160303.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: ????? ?? ??? ????????? ??? ??????? ????????? ? ?????? ???? On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Peter Shangov wrote: > ????, booking.com ?????????? ?????? ? ?????? ?? ??????, ??? ?? ????? ?? > ?? ????? ? ????????? ?? ???? ??-???? ??? ?? ?? ????. > > ?. > > > > > ----- Forwarded Message ----- > >From: Ingrid Eigenraam > >To: "pshangov at yahoo.com" > >Sent: Monday, 21 January 2013, 15:10 > >Subject: 25 Dev's needed that eat, sleep and live Perl! > > > > > > > >Dear Peter, > > > >I saw that you are the Group Leader of the Sofia?s Perl Mongers group and > I like to ask for your help. > >You probably heard about Booking.com - the #1 Accommodation website in > the world ? from sponsoring the Open Source Community. > >We are urgently in need of 25 Developers to join our great big Perl shop > in Amsterdam. > >The position is open to worldwide candidates. 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URL: From pshangov at yahoo.com Tue Feb 12 02:45:24 2013 From: pshangov at yahoo.com (Peter Shangov) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 02:45:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sofia-pm] Fw: 25 Dev's needed that eat, sleep and live Perl! In-Reply-To: References: <1360664239.35331.YahooMailNeo@web160303.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1360665924.59467.YahooMailNeo@web160303.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> ???? ????????? ?? ?????? ?????. ?? ????? ?????? ?? ????? ?? ??????? ????? - ?????? ????? ? ????? ????? ? ???? ?? ???? ???????. >________________________________ > From: Vulcho Nedelchev >To: Peter Shangov ; The Sofia Perl Mongers List >Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 10:24 >Subject: Re: [Sofia-pm] Fw: 25 Dev's needed that eat, sleep and live Perl! > > >????? ?? ??? ????????? ??? ??????? ????????? ? ?????? ???? > > > >On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 12:17 PM, Peter Shangov wrote: > >????, booking.com ?????????? ?????? ? ?????? ?? ??????, ??? ?? ????? ?? ?? ????? ? ????????? ?? ???? ??-???? ??? ?? ?? ????. >> >>?. >> >> >> >> >>----- Forwarded Message ----- >>>From: Ingrid Eigenraam >>>To: "pshangov at yahoo.com" >>>Sent: Monday, 21 January 2013, 15:10 >>>Subject: 25 Dev's needed that eat, sleep and live Perl! >>> >>> >>> >>>Dear Peter, >>>? >>>I saw that you are the Group Leader of the Sofia?s Perl Mongers group and I like to ask for your help. >>>You probably heard about Booking.com - the #1 Accommodation website in the world ? from sponsoring the Open Source Community. >>>We are urgently in need of 25 Developers to join our great big Perl shop in Amsterdam. >>>The position is open to worldwide candidates. Visa (approximately 3 weeks) and relocation package are included! >>>For more information, check out the job description: Perl Developer. >>>Please spread the word among your group members and feel free to contact me in case of sponsoring events. >>>If you are interested, you can also contact me directly. >>>We appreciate your help! >>>? >>>Ingrid Eigenraam >>>Recruiter >>>? >>>Herengracht 597. >>>Amsterdam, 1017 CE, Netherlands >>>Direct: +31(0)207158393. >>> >>>Subsidiary of the Priceline Group (NASDAQ:PCLN) >>>41 languages, 85+ offices worldwide, 41,000+ global destinations, 400,000+ room nights booked every day >>>No booking fees, best price always guaranteed. >>> >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>Sofia-pm mailing list >>Sofia-pm at pm.org >>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sofia-pm > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andy at shitov.ru Tue Feb 12 02:55:08 2013 From: andy at shitov.ru (Andrew Shitov) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 11:55:08 +0100 Subject: [Sofia-pm] Fw: 25 Dev's needed that eat, sleep and live Perl! In-Reply-To: References: <1360664239.35331.YahooMailNeo@web160303.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:24 AM, Vulcho Nedelchev wrote: > ????? ?? ??? ????????? ??? ??????? ????????? ? ?????? ???? If you relocate to Amsterdam as a foreign high-skilled migrant (kennismigrant in Dutch), the company cannot pay you less than ~50 k? /year if you are above 30 year old, and 37 k? otherwise (see details at http://www.everaert.nl/nl/nieuws/13-bedrijven/100-vanaf-1-januari-2012-nieuw-looncriterium-voor-kennismigranten, this may vary a bit). Note also that the yearly salary in the Netherlands includes 8% vacation payment, which is paid once a year in May. Thus (50 - 8%) / 12 would be your monthly salary before taxation. There are also high enough taxes which are progressive, and effectively will take about 1/3 of your income. Also, you may apply for so called 30% ruling, which means that if you are a high skilled one, you will not pay taxes from 30% of your income during the first 8 years. That's simple :-) -- Andrew Shitov ______________________________________________________________________ andy at shitov.ru | http://shitov.ru From andy at shitov.ru Tue Feb 12 03:12:35 2013 From: andy at shitov.ru (Andrew Shitov) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 12:12:35 +0100 Subject: [Sofia-pm] Fw: 25 Dev's needed that eat, sleep and live Perl! In-Reply-To: <1360665924.59467.YahooMailNeo@web160303.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> References: <1360664239.35331.YahooMailNeo@web160303.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> <1360665924.59467.YahooMailNeo@web160303.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Peter Shangov wrote: > ???? ????????? ?? ?????? ?????. ?? ????? ?????? ?? ????? ?? ??????? ????? - > ?????? ????? ? ????? ????? ? ???? ?? ???? ???????. Very briefly: it is nice for those who likes "stability" in sense of having regularly paid salary and having a beer party every last Friday of the month. Or you will be highly disappointed if you prefer changing the world, using new technologies and not being stuck by dirty code, which is dirty not because it was a quick hack but because creating crappy code with the old technologies is a philosophy. -- Andrew Shitov ______________________________________________________________________ andy at shitov.ru | http://shitov.ru From k.berov at gmail.com Tue Feb 12 05:40:51 2013 From: k.berov at gmail.com (Krasimir Berov) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 15:40:51 +0200 Subject: [Sofia-pm] Fw: 25 Dev's needed that eat, sleep and live Perl! Message-ID: I was called yesterday for this position. This was my second time. First was one and half year ago when they canceled my application. I think for Euro-political reasons :). I also found that there is no point for me to move there, having in mind that I have big family. It turns out that I am living better here with far lower salary but lest taxes and lower cost of living. Otherwise what can be expected form a code base that evolved may be 10 years. The situation was similar in Skrill(Moneybookers) and They are now writing new code in Java, totally upgrading/changing the architecture. They are using Mason . This is what I know. -- -- --------------------------------------------------- With Regards: ????? ????? https://www.linkedin.com/in/berov -------------------------------------------------- From pshangov at yahoo.com Tue Feb 12 06:43:38 2013 From: pshangov at yahoo.com (Peter Shangov) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 06:43:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Sofia-pm] Fw: 25 Dev's needed that eat, sleep and live Perl! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1360680218.66396.YahooMailNeo@web160306.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> ?????? ???? ???????, ????? ??????? ? Moneybookers, ??????? ??? ??????, ? ????? ?? ??????? ???????? ?? ????? ?? ?????? ???? - ????? ??????? ?? ????? ??????. >________________________________ > From: Krasimir Berov >To: sofia-pm at pm.org >Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2013, 13:40 >Subject: [Sofia-pm] Fw: 25 Dev's needed that eat, sleep and live Perl! > >I was called yesterday for this position. >This was my second time. First was one and half year ago when they >canceled my application. >I think for Euro-political reasons :). >I also found that there is no point for me to move there, having in >mind that I have big family. >It turns out that I am living better here with far lower salary but >lest taxes and lower cost of living. >Otherwise what can be expected form a code base that evolved may be 10 years. >The situation was similar in Skrill(Moneybookers) and They are now >writing new code in Java, totally upgrading/changing the architecture. >They are using Mason . This is what I know. >-- >-- >--------------------------------------------------- >With Regards: ????? ????? >https://www.linkedin.com/in/berov >-------------------------------------------------- >_______________________________________________ >Sofia-pm mailing list >Sofia-pm at pm.org >http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sofia-pm > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From k.berov at gmail.com Tue Feb 12 08:18:14 2013 From: k.berov at gmail.com (Krasimir Berov) Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:18:14 +0200 Subject: [Sofia-pm] Fw: 25 Dev's needed that eat, sleep and live Perl! Message-ID: ?? ???? ????? ??? ??? ?? ??? ?? ????? ????? ? ??? ???. ?? ????? ???? ???? 2009. ??? ? ?? ??????. ???????? ???? ????????????? ? ?? ?? ????? ?????? ????????? ????????, ?? ????? ?? ????? ???????? ???? ? ? ???? ?????? ????? ?? ???? ?? ???? ????. ?? ?? ???? ??? ??? ? ???? ?? ???????? ?????. ??????? ??? ???? ?? ???????? ?? ?? ???????????? ???? ? ???????, ? ?? ?? ?????? ???????????? ????? ????? ? ??. ???? ???? ??? ???? ?? ???? ?????? ?? ????????????? ???? ? ???????. ???? ????????? ??????????? ? ??????? ? ????. -- --------------------------------------------------- With Regards: ????? ????? https://www.linkedin.com/in/berov --------------------------------------------------