From gaurav at ggvaidya.com  Mon Nov  3 07:35:30 2008
From: gaurav at ggvaidya.com (Gaurav Vaidya)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 23:35:30 +0800
Subject: [singapore-pm] Welcome new members!
Message-ID: <295AB975-4336-48E8-999C-62758D7B64B2@ggvaidya.com>

Hi everybody,

Sorry for being so tardy with sending out a welcome e-mail to  
everybody who's joined us from SLUGnet; I've been (and continue to be)  
somewhat sick, so the festivities can't begin as soon as I'd've liked.  
Ah well, so it goes.

We've picked up almost a dozen members (roughly) in the last week. We  
started off with around forty members, who signed up for the  
Singapore.pm mailing list, back when it started in 1999, bringing our  
total number up to about 54. Which isn't a bad start, I think :-).

I'd really like to get back to my pills and medicines and whatnot, so  
that's all from me for now. I'll "introduce" myself properly when I'm  
feeling a little more up to it, hopefully sometime later this week.  
But please, go ahead and tell us all about you, where your interest in  
Perl lies, and what you'd like to get out of this group. I don't care  
much how technically adept or scintillatingly cutting edge this group  
becomes, as long as its a nice place to relax, talk Perl - or anything  
peripherally related - and to be nice to one another in. Larry Wall  
once wrote of Perl that he hoped it would build "healthy communities";  
I think that's an excellent goal for Singapore.pm to have.

So: introductions, discussions, hellos, or welcomes. Go ahead, say  
what you like. The microphone is on.

cheers,
Gaurav

From gaurav at ggvaidya.com  Wed Nov  5 19:53:04 2008
From: gaurav at ggvaidya.com (Gaurav Vaidya)
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:53:04 +0800
Subject: [singapore-pm] Fwd: [pm_groups] Fwd: IMPORTANT - help us estimate
	the size of the Catalyst user base
In-Reply-To: <D1542422-5361-4075-BECD-A81C5E2027DD@jays.net>
References: <20081106015135.GG19200@mvale-ach-172-30-221-45.wlan.uow.edu.au>
	<D1542422-5361-4075-BECD-A81C5E2027DD@jays.net>
Message-ID: <2665a3df0811051953h5105f6c8x5a0ba0d481ea9b68@mail.gmail.com>

Hey,

Any Catalyst users in this group?

cheers,
Gaurav

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Jay Hannah <jay at jays.net>
Date: 2008/11/6
Subject: [pm_groups] Fwd: IMPORTANT - help us estimate the size of the
Catalyst user base
To: pm_groups at pm.org


Please forward to your local group if you deem this appropriate.

Thank you,

j
Omaha.pm
Chief pm.org ticket monkey slacker



From: Kieren Diment <zarquon at cpan.org>
Date: November 5, 2008 7:51:35 PM CST

Hi All,

Apologies for the cross-posting, I'm trying to representatives of as
many organisations as possible who use Catalyst as possible to reply
to this email.

We need your assistance to help estimate the number of users of
Catalyst.  Matt Trout and I have written a proposal for a Catalyst
book, and while we have a well known, credible publisher interested,
they want the assurance that the market for the book is large enough
to make it worth their while.

If you could take the time to provide the following information (I've
set reply-to to me for your confidentiality, and so that we don't
pollute the list with this stuff) this would be really useful.  I'll
also let you know the results of this survey when I have them.

I will treat this information in confidence, and will only use
aggregated data so that you or your organisation will not be
identifiable in the report I make on this data.

There are about 1000 subscribers on the catalyst mailing list, and I'd
hope for a response rate of about 10% (i.e. about 100 replies).  The
information I'm collecting is likely to result in an outcome that is
useful to you in a commercial way, so your participation would be much
appreciated.

Please try to ensure that only one person from your organisation
answers these questions.

1.  What country are you in?

2.  How many people are on your team?

3.  How many of those people are writing code with Catalyst?

3a.  If there are non Catalyst coders on your team, how many of the
whole team would you like to be writing Catalyst code?

4.  How many people using Catalyst on your team are subscribers to the
Catalyst mailing list?

5.  How many people writing Catalyst code on your team use the
#catalyst irc channel on irc.perl.org?

6.  These two questions are about the potential for the growth of
Catalyst usage in your organisation.

6a.  How many people do you think will be using Catalyst in your
organisation in 12 months time?

6b.  How many people do you think will be using Catalyst in your
organisation in 2 years time?

Thanks for your cooperation.  If you know of any teams who are users
of Catalyst but that do not subscribe to the Catalyst mailing list, or
are on the IRC channel, please forward this email to them.

Thanks.

Kieren Diment

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From gaurav at ggvaidya.com  Tue Nov 11 23:38:33 2008
From: gaurav at ggvaidya.com (Gaurav Vaidya)
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:38:33 +0800
Subject: [singapore-pm] ANNOUNCE: Perl 5.8.9 RC 1 is out.
Message-ID: <2665a3df0811112338o2f38b13co7ae42f5ea98d4ccb@mail.gmail.com>

Hey everybody,

The first release candidate for Perl 5.8.9 is out. If you can't (or
don't want to) move onto the 'given-when' and '//' goodness of Perl
5.10, you might want to run your code against this and help weed out
any bugs. The announcement also warns that 5.8.9 will be the last
release of Perl 5.8: "5.8.10 is likely to be build failures only - no
bug fixes". If all goes according to plan, 5.8.9 will be released
within in the next two weeks.

Announcement at: http://use.perl.org/article.pl?sid=08/11/11/1842248
The "build failures only" quote is from:
http://use.perl.org/~nicholas/journal/37858

cheers,
Gaurav

From gaurav at ggvaidya.com  Mon Nov 24 18:20:15 2008
From: gaurav at ggvaidya.com (Gaurav Vaidya)
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2008 10:20:15 +0800
Subject: [singapore-pm] Parrot 1.0 release date announced: March 17, 2009
Message-ID: <722EF316-EA45-4FF2-806F-7E9D0E7FB278@ggvaidya.com>

Hi everybody,

As most of you probably know, Parrot 0.8.1 was released a few weeks  
ago. The Parrot team have now announced that they hope to have a  
complete, working 1.0 release by March 2009.
	Allison Randal's announcement: http://lists.parrot.org/pipermail/parrot-dev/2008-November/000234.html
	Parrot's roadmap: https://trac.parrot.org/parrot/wiki/ParrotRoadmap
	What is Parrot?: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parrot_virtual_machine

I for one can't for the day we'll have Perl5, Perl6, Ruby, Python and  
Tcl all running on the same virtual machine together :-).

cheers,
Gaurav

From gaurav at ggvaidya.com  Wed Nov 26 20:53:38 2008
From: gaurav at ggvaidya.com (Gaurav Vaidya)
Date: Thu, 27 Nov 2008 12:53:38 +0800
Subject: [singapore-pm] Ad-hoc localization for the busy linguist
Message-ID: <2665a3df0811262053q798f2573p77a2431ae687f5ec@mail.gmail.com>

Hey,

Gabor Szabo is looking for help localizing his in-development Perl IDE
(Padre: http://padre.perlide.org/). Anybody interested? There's "only"
223 messages to translate.

cheers,
Gaurav

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Gabor Szabo <szabgab at gmail.com>
Date: 2008/11/27
Subject: [pm_groups] How do you say Padre in ... your language?
To: PM Groups <pm_groups at pm.org>


A month or so ago I was surprised to see Heiko Jansen sending me
a German translation of Padre, the Perl IDE http://padre.perlide.org/

Then yesterday I received a Korean version from Keedi Kim and
today a Hungarian version from Gy?rgy P?sztor.
(OK, I asked for the last one but he did it within 2 hours I think)

Let's see how fast can your local user group come up with a translation.
I think it would be awesome to have 20+ translations in the next release
on Monday 1st December.

Actually it isn't a lot of work either.
Right now the only thing that needs to be done is creating the relevant .po
file based on the messages.pot file just as the others were created
See the files here:

http://svn.perlide.org/padre/trunk/share/locale/

These are all plain text files.

So I'd like to ask the PM group leaders (especially those with
readership in other
those 4 languages) to send out this call to their respective groups.

Thanks for your cooperation.

Gabor
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From gaurav at ggvaidya.com  Fri Nov 28 20:24:56 2008
From: gaurav at ggvaidya.com (Gaurav Vaidya)
Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 12:24:56 +0800
Subject: [singapore-pm] Announcing: OSSPAC
Message-ID: <33182E36-AA64-4C2E-890D-3D32E92980C6@ggvaidya.com>

Hi everybody,

I just got an e-mail about "the Open Source Singapore-Pacific-Asia  
Conference & Expo" (http://www.osspac.com/). It doesn't seem all the  
interesting (certainly not as freewheeling as the recently concluded  
FOSS.my) but I'll pass it on in case it's of interest to anyone.

cheers,
Gaurav