From andrew at geekuni.com  Tue Jun  1 09:42:17 2021
From: andrew at geekuni.com (Andrew Solomon)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2021 17:42:17 +0100
Subject: [sf-perl] A shared vision of Perl
Message-ID: <CAN=twKuewMsao=uYEWPvAF-orPtQ8jxY=QFhFr=8-eGPyVXJ8g@mail.gmail.com>

On behalf of The Perl Foundation <https://www.perlfoundation.org/>, Gobby
<https://gobby.io/> is running a survey to identify the shared values of
the Perl community, and their vision of the Perl ecosystem in years to come.

The goal is to provide information on which The Perl Foundation, community
groups, and individuals can make informed decisions and plans for the
future.

Please click here <https://gobbysurvey.com/asharedvisionofperl> to share
*your* values and vision for the future of Perl.

The background to this survey, and the results so far, will be discussed at The
Perl and Raku Conference <https://sched.co/jMSQ> on June 10.
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From doomvox at gmail.com  Tue Jun  1 13:04:09 2021
From: doomvox at gmail.com (Joseph Brenner)
Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2021 13:04:09 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] A shared vision of Perl
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Andrew Solomon <andrew at geekuni.com> wrote:
> On behalf of The Perl Foundation <https://www.perlfoundation.org/>, Gobby
> <https://gobby.io/> is running a survey to identify the shared values of
> the Perl community, and their vision of the Perl ecosystem in years to
> come.

Well, I crunched through it, and would certainly encourage others to do so.

I have to say this "gobby" concept looks like a well-intentioned
notion that people are just likely to find confusing.  When you ask
people to "vote" on some alternatives, they don't expect it to be an
evolving, expanding list of alternatives that anyone can add to at any
time, and I can't imagine how you can report the results in a way that
will make sense-- the number of "votes" an answer gets depends on when
it was added to the list.    Could I go back and "vote" again on the
new entries that were added after I voted this time?

(As for the hot topics here, it's kind of drag that the "Community
Affairs Team" blundering around has gotten us stuck in culture wars
territory...)

From wjm1 at caa.columbia.edu  Thu Jun  3 08:59:43 2021
From: wjm1 at caa.columbia.edu (William Michels)
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 08:59:43 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] A shared vision of Perl
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Closed!

https://gobbysurvey.com/asharedvisionofperl

On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 1:04 PM Joseph Brenner <doomvox at gmail.com> wrote:

> Andrew Solomon <andrew at geekuni.com> wrote:
> > On behalf of The Perl Foundation <https://www.perlfoundation.org/>,
> Gobby
> > <https://gobby.io/> is running a survey to identify the shared values of
> > the Perl community, and their vision of the Perl ecosystem in years to
> > come.
>
> Well, I crunched through it, and would certainly encourage others to do so.
>
> I have to say this "gobby" concept looks like a well-intentioned
> notion that people are just likely to find confusing.  When you ask
> people to "vote" on some alternatives, they don't expect it to be an
> evolving, expanding list of alternatives that anyone can add to at any
> time, and I can't imagine how you can report the results in a way that
> will make sense-- the number of "votes" an answer gets depends on when
> it was added to the list.    Could I go back and "vote" again on the
> new entries that were added after I voted this time?
>
> (As for the hot topics here, it's kind of drag that the "Community
> Affairs Team" blundering around has gotten us stuck in culture wars
> territory...)
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From doomvox at gmail.com  Sun Jun  6 14:34:57 2021
From: doomvox at gmail.com (Joseph Brenner)
Date: Sun, 6 Jun 2021 14:34:57 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Perl/Raku "Conference in the Clouds" (and the Raku Study
 Group postponed)
Message-ID: <CAFfgvXUpPzJyWVXJgZbX3KiQDs==2cFFm5bFSrKKvoEe0M1L1A@mail.gmail.com>

As I expect most of you have heard, there's another
perl/raku "conference in the clouds" coming up this week,
starting on Tuesday.  The schedule is online:

  https://perlconference.us/tprc-2021-cloud/schedule/

Tickets for this one are just $10:

  https://www.eventbrite.com/e/conference-in-the-cloud-2021-a-perl-raku-conference-tickets-149184602161

And I've decided to postpone the next Raku Study Group meeting to
May 20th: doing one right after this conference would be a
little too much, I'd think.

From earl at ruby.org  Thu Jun 10 17:23:34 2021
From: earl at ruby.org (Earl Ruby)
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 2021 17:23:34 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Perl/Raku "Conference in the Clouds" (and the Raku
 Study Group postponed)
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References: <CAFfgvXUpPzJyWVXJgZbX3KiQDs==2cFFm5bFSrKKvoEe0M1L1A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAPBkEsgHx-r_n9EufX+xoUHQaqL+tGw5RSQtvdb4PvW7E3u7oA@mail.gmail.com>

May 20th of what year?

On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 2:34 PM Joseph Brenner <doomvox at gmail.com> wrote:

> As I expect most of you have heard, there's another
> perl/raku "conference in the clouds" coming up this week,
> starting on Tuesday.  The schedule is online:
>
>   https://perlconference.us/tprc-2021-cloud/schedule/
>
> Tickets for this one are just $10:
>
>
> https://www.eventbrite.com/e/conference-in-the-cloud-2021-a-perl-raku-conference-tickets-149184602161
>
> And I've decided to postpone the next Raku Study Group meeting to
> May 20th: doing one right after this conference would be a
> little too much, I'd think.
> _______________________________________________
> SanFrancisco-pm mailing list
> SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org
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>


-- 
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From doomvox at gmail.com  Fri Jun 11 07:52:45 2021
From: doomvox at gmail.com (Joseph Brenner)
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 07:52:45 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Perl/Raku "Conference in the Clouds" (and the Raku
 Study Group postponed)
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References: <CAFfgvXUpPzJyWVXJgZbX3KiQDs==2cFFm5bFSrKKvoEe0M1L1A@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAFfgvXXaWnJAOXr71FjDFphe8TZ56bkpxicOMO_JFTuN1GScuA@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry, I meant June 20th.


On 6/10/21, Earl Ruby <earl at ruby.org> wrote:
> May 20th of what year?
>
> On Sun, Jun 6, 2021 at 2:34 PM Joseph Brenner <doomvox at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> As I expect most of you have heard, there's another
>> perl/raku "conference in the clouds" coming up this week,
>> starting on Tuesday.  The schedule is online:
>>
>>   https://perlconference.us/tprc-2021-cloud/schedule/
>>
>> Tickets for this one are just $10:
>>
>>
>> https://www.eventbrite.com/e/conference-in-the-cloud-2021-a-perl-raku-conference-tickets-149184602161
>>
>> And I've decided to postpone the next Raku Study Group meeting to
>> May 20th: doing one right after this conference would be a
>> little too much, I'd think.
>> _______________________________________________
>> SanFrancisco-pm mailing list
>> SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org
>> https://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm
>>
>
>
> --
> Earl Ruby
> http://earlruby.org/
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/earlruby
> https://twitter.com/earlruby
>

From doomvox at gmail.com  Thu Jun 17 17:00:25 2021
From: doomvox at gmail.com (Joseph Brenner)
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2021 17:00:25 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] The SF Perl Raku Study Group, 06/20 at 1pm PDT
Message-ID: <CAFfgvXXp-QzB0gH6+48rYRTMn8ZmwmRAnr=rTtM5E2B_3sDf1Q@mail.gmail.com>

Edgar Rice Burroughs, "Tarzan of the Apes" (1914)
Ch 7, "The Light of Knowledge":

  His little face was tense in study, for he had
  partially grasped, in a hazy, nebulous way, the
  rudiments of a thought which was destined to
  prove the key and the solution to the puzzling
  problem of the strange little bugs.

The Raku Study Group

June 20, 2021  1pm in California, 8pm in the UK

Zoom meeting link:
  https://us02web.zoom.us/j/87429079850?pwd=VENuRi9YbjAzZ1paRmtoVW9iaWtvUT09

Passcode: 4RakuRoll

RSVPs are useful, though not needed:
  https://www.meetup.com/San-Francisco-Perl/events/278735631/