From sfpm at vmbrasseur.com Thu May 9 15:54:22 2013 From: sfpm at vmbrasseur.com (VM Brasseur) Date: Thu, 09 May 2013 15:54:22 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] [jobs] East Coast Perl shop opening an SF office In-Reply-To: <5176BCE3.2030300@vmbrasseur.com> References: <5176BCE3.2030300@vmbrasseur.com> Message-ID: <518C291E.6020107@vmbrasseur.com> Hello, all! We still have a couple more openings for Perlers in the new SF office. Drop me a line (sfpm at vmbrasseur.com or vmb at shoeless-consulting.com) if you're interested in learning more. --V, @vmbrasseur On 04/23/2013 09:54 , VM Brasseur wrote: > Hey there, gang! Long time no see. Gotta get myself back to an SF.pm > meeting some time in the near future but, well...life. It happens. > > In the meantime though... > > A friend of mine has recruited me to recruit [0] for the company he > works for. It's a mid-size, stable [1] company on the East Coast. > While--like any software of decent age--it has elements written in > Python, Ruby, Node.js and other languages, the primary language they use > for their software is Perl.[2] They think it's pretty swell and, really, > who can blame them? > > This company will be opening an office in San Francisco in the next > couple of months and, realizing that I know a lot of great Perlers, my > friend at the company has asked me to help them find some people to help > build the SF team. > > Their preference is for NICE people who know and love Perl and (ideally > but not a deal breaker) who also have some experience on the front end > (JS). People who don't know Perl but do know some other high-level > scripting language are also welcome.[3] > > The salary is SF-norm; the benefits are top notch; the people are smart > and helpful; the company is laid back yet innovative; the hours are > "have a real life" sane, not startup ridiculous. > > If you're interested--or know someone else who may be--drop me a line! > Please reply to me directly (vmb at shoeless-consulting.com or > sfpm at vmbrasseur.com) rather than to the list. No one needs the extra > noise in their inbox. > > Thanks, all! > > --VM Brasseur > @vmbrasseur > > > [0] Does that make it meta-recruiting? > [1] ~10 years old and still growing > [2] Modern Perl, not 5.8. HTML::Mason, Dancer, TDD, pair programming, > that sort of thing. > [3] The key qualities they look for are ability and humanity. They > realize they can teach anyone Perl but they can't teach someone how not > to be an asshole. > From sfpm at vmbrasseur.com Thu May 16 14:14:06 2013 From: sfpm at vmbrasseur.com (VM Brasseur) Date: Thu, 16 May 2013 14:14:06 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Survey about open source participation Message-ID: <51954C1E.60004@vmbrasseur.com> Hello, all! Have two minutes? Please take this quick survey about OpenSource participation to help me gather data in preparation for a presentation I'm giving at Open Source Bridge in June. https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1jcxorWRoUWfeGnaNkEhQfcNcYgSNzPYGt1XpVPbJndw/viewform The survey is for all members of the open source community: organizers, contributors and those who have never contributed. I'd be grateful if you could boost the signal by sharing this survey with others. Thank you for your help! --V @vmbrasseur From sfpm at vmbrasseur.com Fri May 17 08:11:15 2013 From: sfpm at vmbrasseur.com (VM Brasseur) Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 08:11:15 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Office hours: tech business consulting/career coaching and advice Message-ID: <51964893.90500@vmbrasseur.com> Hello, gang! shoeless consulting is having office hours at Capital One 360 Cafe in FiDi this upcoming Thursday between 10am and 3pm. Interested in getting 20 minutes of free business/marketing/management consulting for your technical company or idea? Or maybe you're just looking for career coaching? Hit the link below to grab your appointment before someone else does. http://www.snapappointments.com/listing/2HH (yeah, the UI is a bit clunky; but the scheduling options are pretty good) Only one office hours appointment per person, please. If you've previously attended shoeless office hours, please do not schedule another appointment. To learn more about shoeless consulting, please visit http://shoeless-consulting.com. I'm looking forward to meeting with you on Thursday! --V @vmbrasseur -- http://shoeless-consulting.com good doesn't have to be formal @shoelesstweets From jpbida at ambrosevaast.com Fri May 17 08:48:55 2013 From: jpbida at ambrosevaast.com (Jp Bida) Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 08:48:55 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] SF perl Job Message-ID: <3C7E5A3B-FBA9-42AA-9985-0A5EF3A82F6D@ambrosevaast.com> Capital One is looking for perl developers to join the SparkPay team (mobile payments) www.sparkpay.com If you know anyone that would be interested please forward me their contact info. ~Jp From russt at releasetools.org Fri May 17 09:31:43 2013 From: russt at releasetools.org (Russ Tremain) Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 09:31:43 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] another job opening.. in Alameda Message-ID: Perforce is a rare place to work: lots of fun, and heavy into perl. Free monthly massage, and an extra day of vacation every month. Need I say more? We have a heavily virtualized build/test/dev env, so good if you have practical vmware experience. Contact me directly and I will forward your resume. cheers, -Russ Job Opening: Senior QA/Test Engineer (Alameda) As a Senior QA/Test Engineer at Perforce you will be responsible for developing and implementing automated test solutions across multiple platforms. We are looking for creative candidates with solid technical skills and a passion for quality. ================ Responsibilities: ================ o As a member of the QA staff, develop automated tests and automation frameworks for a variety of software products. This will require expertise with Python, Perl, Ruby, and/or other scripting languages. o You will develop test plans and strategies for new products and for new functionality in existing products, and implement those plans with automated and manual test cases. o On a daily basis, you will work with QA staff, product advocates, developers, designers and tech support engineers to build the next generation of SCM tools. o As a senior engineer, you will serve as a technical resource to other staff members, sharing your knowledge and providing guidance as needed. This will include informal collaboration on projects, developing sample and proof-of-concept code, and writing technical papers for our internal web site. ============= Requirements: ============= o BA/BS or equivalent experience. o At least 5 years experience in software development, including experience in QA and Test. o Hands-on experience using Windows, Unix and Mac OS X. o Solid knowledge of at least one programming language, and at least some familiarity with C++. o Fluency with at least one scripting language: Unix/DOS shell, Perl, Ruby, Python, etc. o Excellent problem solving and communication skills. o The ability to work effectively on multiple concurrent projects, setting and managing priorities in a dynamic environment. o The ability to work independently, with minimal supervision. o The ability to communicate effectively, both verbally and in writing. o Experience using SCM tools in a production environment. o Familiarity with Perforce products and with SCM concepts and practices (preferred) From fred at redhotpenguin.com Fri May 17 11:02:27 2013 From: fred at redhotpenguin.com (Fred Moyer) Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 11:02:27 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Reminder regarding SF.pm mailing list rules and ettiquite Message-ID: Hello San Francisco Perl Mongers mailing list members, We've had a few posts recently which were followed by a number of mailman unsubscribes, so I wanted to take a quick minute and remind everyone of the list rules. You received a copy of these rules when you signed up for the mailing list [1], but someones we all need a refresher. Use the [job] tag for job postings. This not only helps people filter out job postings, but also helps them find those postings. You're looking for people who are looking for jobs right? Use the job tag and you'll have a much better chance of finding them. All Perl related posts are welcome, and other tech postings with the [offtopic] tag are ok, but commercial postings are strongly discouraged. If you are posting to give away free ipads (without an accompanying Perl application obviously), advertise your new startup that isn't Perl related, or give away special offers, your post probably does not belong here. Thanks, and happy Friday! [1] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Welcome to the SF.pm list! A few short guidelines: 1) Use [tags] where possible. This is required for any [job] posting, put the [job] tag in the subject line. 2) Be nice. If something bothers you, I want you to be nice. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_98FzVhcoVQ 3) Feel free to post anything Perl related. Other tech postings are allowed with the [off-topic] tag in the subject. Please note that commercial postings without the [off-topic] tag may result in being banned from the list. Thanks, and visit our meetup page at http://www.meetup.com/San-Francisco-Perl-Mongers/ From simbabque at hannover.pm Sat May 18 10:53:41 2013 From: simbabque at hannover.pm (simbabque) Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 19:53:41 +0200 Subject: [sf-perl] Visiting San Francisco in September Message-ID: Hi, my name's Julien and I'm a Perl guy from Hannover, Germany. Maybe I've met one or two of you at last year's YAPC::EU. I'm going to visit California at the end of August this year and will stay for four weeks. The first two weeks of that period I will spend in Fairfield and in San Fransisco. During that time, I would love to attend a SF.pm meeting. I know it's a bit early, but I'm in the middle of planning this whole thing, including a road trip. Please let me know if you are open to visitors from abroad, and how your meetings work. Here in Hannover, we just meet in a restaurant/pub every few weeks to discuss Perl, work or totally unrelated stuff, sometimes give spontaneous presentations and enjoy food. I have not attended any other PM meetings yet, so I have no idea what to expect. ;-) Thanks a lot, Julien PS: Do you have an IRC channel? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From frimicc at gmail.com Sun May 19 10:07:38 2013 From: frimicc at gmail.com (Michael Friedman) Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 10:07:38 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Visiting San Francisco in September In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: SF Perlmongers usually meets at the end of the month, but SV Perl has a meeting on August 1 for lightning talks. They meet about an hour's drive or train ride south of San Francisco and you'd be welcome to join us for that if you are in the area that early. Details are on meetup.com if you're interested. http://meetu.ps/tBgcj -- Mike Friedman _________________ Michael Friedman On May 18, 2013, at 10:53 AM, simbabque wrote: > Hi, > > my name's Julien and I'm a Perl guy from Hannover, Germany. Maybe I've met one or two of you at last year's YAPC::EU. > > I'm going to visit California at the end of August this year and will stay for four weeks. The first two weeks of that period I will spend in Fairfield and in San Fransisco. During that time, I would love to attend a SF.pm meeting. I know it's a bit early, but I'm in the middle of planning this whole thing, including a road trip. > > Please let me know if you are open to visitors from abroad, and how your meetings work. Here in Hannover, we just meet in a restaurant/pub every few weeks to discuss Perl, work or totally unrelated stuff, sometimes give spontaneous presentations and enjoy food. I have not attended any other PM meetings yet, so I have no idea what to expect. ;-) > > Thanks a lot, > Julien > > PS: Do you have an IRC channel? > _______________________________________________ > SanFrancisco-pm mailing list > SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm From simbabque at hannover.pm Mon May 20 07:54:18 2013 From: simbabque at hannover.pm (simbabque) Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 16:54:18 +0200 Subject: [sf-perl] Visiting San Francisco in September In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mike, thanks a lot for inviting me. It sounds great and I'd love to go. Unfortunately, we will arrive four weeks later, at the 26th of August. I will, however, also contact SV Perl, and look at the meetup page for both SV and SF over the next months. Seems like I was a bit early indeed. Julien 2013/5/19 Michael Friedman > SF Perlmongers usually meets at the end of the month, but SV Perl has a > meeting on August 1 for lightning talks. They meet about an hour's drive or > train ride south of San Francisco and you'd be welcome to join us for that > if you are in the area that early. > > Details are on meetup.com if you're interested. http://meetu.ps/tBgcj > > -- Mike Friedman > _________________ > Michael Friedman > > > On May 18, 2013, at 10:53 AM, simbabque wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > my name's Julien and I'm a Perl guy from Hannover, Germany. Maybe I've > met one or two of you at last year's YAPC::EU. > > > > I'm going to visit California at the end of August this year and will > stay for four weeks. The first two weeks of that period I will spend in > Fairfield and in San Fransisco. During that time, I would love to attend a > SF.pm meeting. 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URL: From frimicc at gmail.com Mon May 20 09:44:06 2013 From: frimicc at gmail.com (Michael Friedman) Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 09:44:06 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Visiting San Francisco in September In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Julien, I'm sorry, I misread your email. SF Perlmongers has a meeting scheduled for August 27th and SVPerl has another meeting scheduled for September 5th. (Both groups meet monthly.) These meetings are usually talks, with some members going out to a late dinner afterwards. You're welcome to join us at either one (or both!). -- Mike On May 20, 2013, at 7:54 AM, simbabque wrote: > Mike, > > thanks a lot for inviting me. It sounds great and I'd love to go. Unfortunately, we will arrive four weeks later, at the 26th of August. I will, however, also contact SV Perl, and look at the meetup page for both SV and SF over the next months. Seems like I was a bit early indeed. > > Julien > > > 2013/5/19 Michael Friedman > SF Perlmongers usually meets at the end of the month, but SV Perl has a meeting on August 1 for lightning talks. They meet about an hour's drive or train ride south of San Francisco and you'd be welcome to join us for that if you are in the area that early. > > Details are on meetup.com if you're interested. http://meetu.ps/tBgcj > > -- Mike Friedman > _________________ > Michael Friedman > > > On May 18, 2013, at 10:53 AM, simbabque wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > my name's Julien and I'm a Perl guy from Hannover, Germany. Maybe I've met one or two of you at last year's YAPC::EU. > > > > I'm going to visit California at the end of August this year and will stay for four weeks. The first two weeks of that period I will spend in Fairfield and in San Fransisco. During that time, I would love to attend a SF.pm meeting. I know it's a bit early, but I'm in the middle of planning this whole thing, including a road trip. > > > > Please let me know if you are open to visitors from abroad, and how your meetings work. Here in Hannover, we just meet in a restaurant/pub every few weeks to discuss Perl, work or totally unrelated stuff, sometimes give spontaneous presentations and enjoy food. I have not attended any other PM meetings yet, so I have no idea what to expect. ;-) > > > > Thanks a lot, > > Julien > > > > PS: Do you have an IRC channel? > > _______________________________________________ > > SanFrancisco-pm mailing list > > SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm > From simbabque at hannover.pm Mon May 20 10:03:06 2013 From: simbabque at hannover.pm (simbabque) Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 19:03:06 +0200 Subject: [sf-perl] Visiting San Francisco in September In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mike, no problem. Thanks a lot for the information. You are planning ahead quite well. I don't quite know if we can make the 27th. It's one day after we arrive and I believe we will be heavily jetlagged, but the other one should work. Is there a possibility of getting a few people together for a social meeting outside the schedule if we cannot make the tech talk meetings? I would hate to miss the opportunity of meeting more Perl people. It's probably best to ask this in August, and not three months earlier I guess... Julien 2013/5/20 Michael Friedman > Julien, > > I'm sorry, I misread your email. SF Perlmongers has a meeting scheduled > for August 27th and SVPerl has another meeting scheduled for September 5th. > (Both groups meet monthly.) These meetings are usually talks, with some > members going out to a late dinner afterwards. You're welcome to join us at > either one (or both!). > > -- Mike > > On May 20, 2013, at 7:54 AM, simbabque wrote: > > > Mike, > > > > thanks a lot for inviting me. It sounds great and I'd love to go. > Unfortunately, we will arrive four weeks later, at the 26th of August. I > will, however, also contact SV Perl, and look at the meetup page for both > SV and SF over the next months. Seems like I was a bit early indeed. > > > > Julien > > > > > > 2013/5/19 Michael Friedman > > SF Perlmongers usually meets at the end of the month, but SV Perl has a > meeting on August 1 for lightning talks. They meet about an hour's drive or > train ride south of San Francisco and you'd be welcome to join us for that > if you are in the area that early. > > > > Details are on meetup.com if you're interested. http://meetu.ps/tBgcj > > > > -- Mike Friedman > > _________________ > > Michael Friedman > > > > > > On May 18, 2013, at 10:53 AM, simbabque wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > my name's Julien and I'm a Perl guy from Hannover, Germany. Maybe I've > met one or two of you at last year's YAPC::EU. > > > > > > I'm going to visit California at the end of August this year and will > stay for four weeks. The first two weeks of that period I will spend in > Fairfield and in San Fransisco. During that time, I would love to attend a > SF.pm meeting. I know it's a bit early, but I'm in the middle of planning > this whole thing, including a road trip. > > > > > > Please let me know if you are open to visitors from abroad, and how > your meetings work. Here in Hannover, we just meet in a restaurant/pub > every few weeks to discuss Perl, work or totally unrelated stuff, sometimes > give spontaneous presentations and enjoy food. I have not attended any > other PM meetings yet, so I have no idea what to expect. ;-) > > > > > > Thanks a lot, > > > Julien > > > > > > PS: Do you have an IRC channel? > > > _______________________________________________ > > > SanFrancisco-pm mailing list > > > SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org > > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm > > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fred at redhotpenguin.com Mon May 20 14:31:50 2013 From: fred at redhotpenguin.com (Fred Moyer) Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 14:31:50 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Visiting San Francisco in September In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, it's always possible (and encouraged) to get people together outside of the normal meeting schedule. Email the list a few weeks before to set something up! On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 10:03 AM, simbabque wrote: > Mike, > > no problem. Thanks a lot for the information. You are planning ahead quite > well. I don't quite know if we can make the 27th. It's one day after we > arrive and I believe we will be heavily jetlagged, but the other one should > work. > > Is there a possibility of getting a few people together for a social meeting > outside the schedule if we cannot make the tech talk meetings? I would hate > to miss the opportunity of meeting more Perl people. It's probably best to > ask this in August, and not three months earlier I guess... > > Julien > > > 2013/5/20 Michael Friedman >> >> Julien, >> >> I'm sorry, I misread your email. SF Perlmongers has a meeting scheduled >> for August 27th and SVPerl has another meeting scheduled for September 5th. >> (Both groups meet monthly.) These meetings are usually talks, with some >> members going out to a late dinner afterwards. You're welcome to join us at >> either one (or both!). >> >> -- Mike >> >> On May 20, 2013, at 7:54 AM, simbabque wrote: >> >> > Mike, >> > >> > thanks a lot for inviting me. It sounds great and I'd love to go. >> > Unfortunately, we will arrive four weeks later, at the 26th of August. I >> > will, however, also contact SV Perl, and look at the meetup page for both SV >> > and SF over the next months. Seems like I was a bit early indeed. >> > >> > Julien >> > >> > >> > 2013/5/19 Michael Friedman >> > SF Perlmongers usually meets at the end of the month, but SV Perl has a >> > meeting on August 1 for lightning talks. They meet about an hour's drive or >> > train ride south of San Francisco and you'd be welcome to join us for that >> > if you are in the area that early. >> > >> > Details are on meetup.com if you're interested. http://meetu.ps/tBgcj >> > >> > -- Mike Friedman >> > _________________ >> > Michael Friedman >> > >> > >> > On May 18, 2013, at 10:53 AM, simbabque wrote: >> > >> > > Hi, >> > > >> > > my name's Julien and I'm a Perl guy from Hannover, Germany. Maybe I've >> > > met one or two of you at last year's YAPC::EU. >> > > >> > > I'm going to visit California at the end of August this year and will >> > > stay for four weeks. The first two weeks of that period I will spend in >> > > Fairfield and in San Fransisco. During that time, I would love to attend a >> > > SF.pm meeting. I know it's a bit early, but I'm in the middle of planning >> > > this whole thing, including a road trip. >> > > >> > > Please let me know if you are open to visitors from abroad, and how >> > > your meetings work. Here in Hannover, we just meet in a restaurant/pub every >> > > few weeks to discuss Perl, work or totally unrelated stuff, sometimes give >> > > spontaneous presentations and enjoy food. I have not attended any other PM >> > > meetings yet, so I have no idea what to expect. ;-) >> > > >> > > Thanks a lot, >> > > Julien >> > > >> > > PS: Do you have an IRC channel? >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > SanFrancisco-pm mailing list >> > > SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org >> > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm >> > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > SanFrancisco-pm mailing list > SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm > From sfpm at vmbrasseur.com Thu May 23 10:04:44 2013 From: sfpm at vmbrasseur.com (VM Brasseur) Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 10:04:44 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Schwern's coming to SF and wants to get together Message-ID: <519E4C2C.7080009@vmbrasseur.com> Michael Schwern, everyone's favorite MakeMaker maker and guru of git, will be in SF June 10-13 and would love to get together with some SF Perl Mongers during that time. He's left it open-ended as far as what a get together looks like. If someone has the space available, he'd be glad to give a presentation on something. The fallback position will be a laid back hangout at Thirsty Bear or some such location. What says the community? Any location ideas, presentation requests, etc.? --V @vmbrasseur From bobrere at jumpmark.com Thu May 23 12:34:03 2013 From: bobrere at jumpmark.com (bobrere at jumpmark.com) Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 12:34:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [sf-perl] i shoulda sent this yesterday Message-ID: http://razorcreative.blogspot.com/2013/05/hump-day.html -scott From jeff at imaginative-software.com Sun May 26 14:12:04 2013 From: jeff at imaginative-software.com (Jeffrey Ryan Thalhammer) Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 14:12:04 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Schwern's coming to SF and wants to get together In-Reply-To: <519E4C2C.7080009@vmbrasseur.com> References: <519E4C2C.7080009@vmbrasseur.com> Message-ID: <3D4163D0-0CD5-426A-B6FF-049CDAEC8941@imaginative-software.com> Even after using it for two years, I'm still a novice with Git. I'd love to get a piece of Schwern's wisdom on that. You can definitely count me in for the seminar, hackathon, or social -- whatever it ends up being. -Jeff From bob.goolsby at gmail.com Sun May 26 19:33:02 2013 From: bob.goolsby at gmail.com (Bob goolsby) Date: Sun, 26 May 2013 19:33:02 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Schwern's coming to SF and wants to get together In-Reply-To: <3D4163D0-0CD5-426A-B6FF-049CDAEC8941@imaginative-software.com> References: <519E4C2C.7080009@vmbrasseur.com> <3D4163D0-0CD5-426A-B6FF-049CDAEC8941@imaginative-software.com> Message-ID: I'd really like to attend, just not on a Tuesday.... B On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Jeffrey Ryan Thalhammer < jeff at imaginative-software.com> wrote: > Even after using it for two years, I'm still a novice with Git. I'd love > to get a piece of Schwern's wisdom on that. > > You can definitely count me in for the seminar, hackathon, or social -- > whatever it ends up being. > > -Jeff > > _______________________________________________ > SanFrancisco-pm mailing list > SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm > -- Bob Goolsby bob.goolsby at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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My > idea was a perl5i talk: > https://metacpan.org/module/NOIRIN/perl5i-v2.11.2/lib/perl5i.pm, > "Fix as much of perl as possible with one pragma". But for that to > happen, we're going to have to find a venue, and that hasn't happened yet.) > > > Bob goolsby wrote: > >> >> I'd really like to attend, just not on a Tuesday.... >> >> >> B >> >> >> On Sun, May 26, 2013 at 2:12 PM, Jeffrey Ryan Thalhammer < >> jeff at imaginative-software.com> wrote: >> >>> Even after using it for two years, I'm still a novice with Git. I'd >>> love to get a piece of Schwern's wisdom on that. >>> >>> You can definitely count me in for the seminar, hackathon, or social -- >>> whatever it ends up being. >>> >>> -Jeff >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> SanFrancisco-pm mailing list >>> SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org >>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Bob Goolsby >> bob.goolsby at gmail.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> SanFrancisco-pm mailing list >> SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm >> >> > -- Bob Goolsby bob.goolsby at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From frimicc at gmail.com Wed May 29 13:53:56 2013 From: frimicc at gmail.com (Michael Friedman) Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 13:53:56 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Anyone use Mustache? Message-ID: <7F0E8DBA-0C8A-4ECB-AAE6-F80C9C92EF85@gmail.com> One of my co-workers is interested in shared templating systems that work in both Perl and Javascript. We found Mustache ( http://mustache.github.io/ ), which seems to have a renderer in many languages, including both Perl and JS. However I can't find any examples of use of Template::Mustache anywhere and the in-module documentation is pretty bad. Does anyone have any knowledge of this system or know of another template language that we can render both from Perl and JS? Thanks! -- Mike Friedman From quinn at pgexperts.com Wed May 29 14:17:49 2013 From: quinn at pgexperts.com (Quinn Weaver) Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 14:17:49 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Anyone use Mustache? In-Reply-To: References: <7F0E8DBA-0C8A-4ECB-AAE6-F80C9C92EF85@gmail.com> Message-ID: <0DF10674-92E8-40AF-AFAD-67F9A2760003@pgexperts.com> On May 29, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Michael Friedman wrote: > Does anyone have any knowledge of this system or know of another template language that we can render both from Perl and JS? Ingy wrote Jemplate, a JavaScript interplementation of Template Toolkit: http://search.cpan.org/~ingy/Jemplate-0.27/ I haven't used it, so I don't know how stable it is. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From fred at redhotpenguin.com Wed May 29 14:32:03 2013 From: fred at redhotpenguin.com (Fred Moyer) Date: Wed, 29 May 2013 14:32:03 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Anyone use Mustache? In-Reply-To: <0DF10674-92E8-40AF-AFAD-67F9A2760003@pgexperts.com> References: <7F0E8DBA-0C8A-4ECB-AAE6-F80C9C92EF85@gmail.com> <0DF10674-92E8-40AF-AFAD-67F9A2760003@pgexperts.com> Message-ID: On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Quinn Weaver wrote: > > On May 29, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Michael Friedman wrote: > > Does anyone have any knowledge of this system or know of another template language that we can render both from Perl and JS? > > > Ingy wrote Jemplate, a JavaScript interplementation of Template Toolkit: http://search.cpan.org/~ingy/Jemplate-0.27/ > I haven't used it, so I don't know how stable it is. It's probably stable, but for what it is worth this module will cause you serious long term headaches. Debugging is a nightmare (currently debugging a jemplate issue). From fred at redhotpenguin.com Thu May 30 12:07:25 2013 From: fred at redhotpenguin.com (Fred Moyer) Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 12:07:25 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Schwern's coming to SF and wants to get together In-Reply-To: <519E4C2C.7080009@vmbrasseur.com> References: <519E4C2C.7080009@vmbrasseur.com> Message-ID: I've posted the Meetup announcement as a placeholder until we get the talk abstract etc. Group, please RSVP here if you plan to attend: http://www.meetup.com/San-Francisco-Perl-Mongers/events/121862762/ On Thu, May 23, 2013 at 10:04 AM, VM Brasseur wrote: > Michael Schwern, everyone's favorite MakeMaker maker and guru of git, will > be in SF June 10-13 and would love to get together with some SF Perl Mongers > during that time. > > He's left it open-ended as far as what a get together looks like. If someone > has the space available, he'd be glad to give a presentation on something. > The fallback position will be a laid back hangout at Thirsty Bear or some > such location. > > What says the community? Any location ideas, presentation requests, etc.? > > --V > @vmbrasseur > _______________________________________________ > SanFrancisco-pm mailing list > SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm From jeff at imaginative-software.com Thu May 30 12:27:55 2013 From: jeff at imaginative-software.com (Jeffrey Ryan Thalhammer) Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 12:27:55 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Get Yourself In The Perl Companies Database Message-ID: Hi everyone- Vicky Brasseur has started a project on GitHub to collect information about companies that use Perl at https://github.com/vmbrasseur/Perl_Companies. I think this could be a huge asset to the Perl community. Just knowing who uses the language is immensely helpful to job seekers, managers, module authors, language maintainers, conference organizers, and entrepreneurs. The database has already been seeded with information extracted from several years of job postings. So if your company is listed, please make sure the information is correct. And if it's not listed, then feel free to add it. All you have to do is fork, edit the CSV file, and make a pull request. You can do it all right in your browser at GitHub.com. If you have a bit more bandwidth, then consider contributing some code too. I would love to see a web form that makes it easy for folks to add & update data, or some online tools for slicing and filtering and graphing the data. There are lots of really interesting possibilities. And you'll be helping to inform the future evolution of Perl! Once again, that URL is https://github.com/vmbrasseur/Perl_Companies Thanks for your time. -Jeff -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From frimicc at gmail.com Thu May 30 17:31:18 2013 From: frimicc at gmail.com (Michael Friedman) Date: Thu, 30 May 2013 17:31:18 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Anyone use Mustache? In-Reply-To: References: <7F0E8DBA-0C8A-4ECB-AAE6-F80C9C92EF85@gmail.com> <0DF10674-92E8-40AF-AFAD-67F9A2760003@pgexperts.com> Message-ID: <2273D992-C3CB-4A6F-94D7-4BDEDFCD9F35@gmail.com> Thanks for the info, both pro and con. I ran Jemplate past my JavaScript compatriot and he shuddered at the thought, so I'm guessing I'm still looking for a better option. -- Mike On May 29, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Fred Moyer wrote: > On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 2:17 PM, Quinn Weaver wrote: >> >> On May 29, 2013, at 1:53 PM, Michael Friedman wrote: >> >> Does anyone have any knowledge of this system or know of another template language that we can render both from Perl and JS? >> >> >> Ingy wrote Jemplate, a JavaScript interplementation of Template Toolkit: http://search.cpan.org/~ingy/Jemplate-0.27/ >> I haven't used it, so I don't know how stable it is. > > It's probably stable, but for what it is worth this module will cause > you serious long term headaches. Debugging is a nightmare (currently > debugging a jemplate issue). From hartzell at alerce.com Fri May 31 13:00:35 2013 From: hartzell at alerce.com (George Hartzell) Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 13:00:35 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] [OT] Infrastructure for consulting [e.g. CPA, lawyers...] Message-ID: <20905.355.12058.129707@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Hi All, This is off topic, but I think that there are a fair number of freelancers on this list and I'd like to pick your brains a bit. And it does relate to Perl programming. I've been on an apparently quixotic quest to find good support for my small consultancy (an LLC) for years. "Everyone knows" that you should have a lawyer check out your contracts before you sign (I actually believe this) and I constantly feel just a little bit nervous that I'm going to get in trouble for failing to renew some piece of fed/state/local paperwork. To date I've relied on favors from friends who are lawyers and put up with CPA's that are happy to type my numbers into their copy of quicken [and might actually be useful for other tax aspects in my life] but don't seem to be set up to help a [very] small business. And I've spent a lot of time cozied up with Nolo press books. I've come to appreciate my Mac and OS X lately, I tired of taking the time to monkey around with getting a nice FreeBSD laptop setup and I have better things to do. My Mac is a good-enough (for me...) unix-y box that let's me just get on with "it". In the same vein, I'd like to find some help for my [very small] business. I'm tired of reading Nolo books and ca.gov web sites and crossing my fingers and hoping I've gotten it right. I'd love to have a relationship with a lawyer who'd be happy to see me once or twice a year to review a contract and touch base. I'd really love to find someone who had a checklist that covered all of the things that a small LLC needs to do every year and would prompt/help/supplement me through them. I'm in Oakland, CA, and/but would be thrilled to find these things anywhere in the Bay Area or possibly even beyond. How to all y'all handle this kind of stuff? g. From sfpm at vmbrasseur.com Fri May 31 13:07:52 2013 From: sfpm at vmbrasseur.com (VM Brasseur) Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 13:07:52 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] [OT] Infrastructure for consulting [e.g. CPA, lawyers...] In-Reply-To: <20905.355.12058.129707@gargle.gargle.HOWL> References: <20905.355.12058.129707@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: <51A90318.1040403@vmbrasseur.com> On 05/31/2013 13:00 , George Hartzell wrote: > How to all y'all handle this kind of stuff? I just got a lawyer. I found it's the simplest and easiest option. Yes, it costs money, but he's worth his weight in gold and allows me to sleep nights. He's not only business- and legal-savvy, he's also tech-savvy and a damn good guy. Adam Bier at Bier Legal in downtown SF: http://www.bierlegal.com/ My 2?. --V From hartzell at alerce.com Fri May 31 13:27:06 2013 From: hartzell at alerce.com (George Hartzell) Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 13:27:06 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] [OT] Infrastructure for consulting [e.g. CPA, lawyers...] In-Reply-To: <51A90318.1040403@vmbrasseur.com> References: <20905.355.12058.129707@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <51A90318.1040403@vmbrasseur.com> Message-ID: <20905.1946.175800.884200@gargle.gargle.HOWL> VM Brasseur writes: > On 05/31/2013 13:00 , George Hartzell wrote: > > How to all y'all handle this kind of stuff? > > I just got a lawyer. I found it's the simplest and easiest option. > > Yes, it costs money, but he's worth his weight in gold and allows me to > sleep nights. He's not only business- and legal-savvy, he's also > tech-savvy and a damn good guy. I'd love to get a lawyer, especially one like that. I just haven't had much luck finding quality that's interested in my piddly needs. > Adam Bier at Bier Legal in downtown SF: http://www.bierlegal.com/ Ah, *that's* the kind of info I was hoping for. > My 2?. And another beer [pun ex post facto...] into your account too. Thanks! g. From sfpm at vmbrasseur.com Fri May 31 13:31:06 2013 From: sfpm at vmbrasseur.com (VM Brasseur) Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 13:31:06 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] [OT] Infrastructure for consulting [e.g. CPA, lawyers...] In-Reply-To: <20905.1946.175800.884200@gargle.gargle.HOWL> References: <20905.355.12058.129707@gargle.gargle.HOWL> <51A90318.1040403@vmbrasseur.com> <20905.1946.175800.884200@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Message-ID: <51A9088A.2020705@vmbrasseur.com> On 05/31/2013 13:27 , George Hartzell wrote: > > Adam Bier at Bier Legal in downtown SF: http://www.bierlegal.com/ > > Ah, *that's* the kind of info I was hoping for. Superb! > And another beer [pun ex post facto...] into your account too. Tell Adam that Vicky Brasseur sent you and I may earn myself a drink from him as well. ;) Soon all your drinks is belong to me! > Thanks! Very glad to be of assistance! --V