[sf-perl] Any::* vs Stable::* [follow up to Mouse/Moose]

Jonathan Swartz swartz at pobox.com
Wed Mar 7 14:59:06 PST 2012

Are you running with --notest? Otherwise, 75%-80% of the time is going towards distribution tests that, for your quick and dirty app, is almost certainly extreme overkill (the tests could be run later anyway if you suspect a problem).


(even though I know almost everyone disagrees with me)

On Mar 7, 2012, at 2:40 PM, Fred Moyer wrote:

> Following up to the previous thread about Mouse vs Moose, and the
> Any::* module discussion, I had some new thoughts.  There's a quick
> and dirty Catalyst app I work with which was running on a box that got
> transitioned to a new environment a few months ago, and that app got
> moved but not turned on.  Today one of the users asked what happened
> to the app, so I tried to start it up but it needed Catalyst to be
> installed (the libraries weren't moved).
> The app was using Catalyst 5.8, but when I used cpanm to install
> Catalyst, it started installing Catalyst 5.9.  Which started
> installing Moose and company, and in this case it started installing
> Moose 2.  The dependencies are still installing (which is giving me
> time to write this), and Moose itself took almost 10 minutes to
> install on this platform.
> In lieu of setting up a dependency management system such as pinto or
> carton which would be overkill for this problem, I'm wondering if
> creating a distribution called Stable::Catalyst would be a good
> solution.  Or perhaps Last::Catalyst.  A namespace that installs the
> previous major version of a module within the last six months to a
> year, or some other heuristic to identify when major changes occur.
> Anyway, 30 minutes into it cpanminus is still chugging away install
> Catalyst 5.9.  Having had the chance here to look more in depth at
> Carton it looks like that might be the right solution for this
> problem.
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