[sf-perl] last night's meeting

Paul Makepeace Paul.Makepeace at realprogrammers.com
Sun May 1 15:10:37 PDT 2011

On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 19:00, David Fetter <david at fetter.org> wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 03:12:19AM +0100, Paul Makepeace wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 00:58, Joseph Brenner <doom at kzsu.stanford.edu> wrote:
>> > I was reading some criticism of jquery recently, by Rebecca
>> > Murphey, who essentially argues that it's DOM-centric view of the
>> > world isn't that well suited to real applications (great for
>> > simple stuff, but too hard to get it to do complex stuff):
>> >
>> >  http://www.dagolden.com/index.php/1446/is-javascript-the-new-perl/
>> Is it just me or is this essentially just saying "mediocre
>> programmers write mediocre code" (regardless of what language)? I
>> don't see how anything jQuery has done has any influence on her
>> argument. What am I missing?
>> I have seen complex apps made out of jQuery that are comprehensible
>> & maintainable so I'm not even convinced of the premise.
> The sad reality is that there aren't all that many excellent
> programmers around, and there are few incentives to actually train up
> excellent programmers.  It takes about a decade under excellent
> tutelage to turn a decent one into an excellent one, and "decade"
> isn't a thing many businesses have incentives to plan for.

Yep, agreed there. I was more puzzled that the source of the apparent
poor code or whatever was something jQuery was doing or not doing.


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