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From: fred at redhotpenguin.com (Fred Moyer)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2009 11:18:46 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Fwd: Books and News from the O'Reilly User Group
	Program--Sept
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From fred at redhotpenguin.com  Wed Sep  2 13:42:17 2009
From: fred at redhotpenguin.com (Fred Moyer)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 2009 13:42:17 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Reminder: "Non Relational Databases" is tomorrow, Thursday,
	September 	3, 2009 7:30 PM!
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FYI - another SF.pm meeting tomorrow evening.

http://www.meetup.com/San-Francisco-Perl-Mongers/calendar/11203260/


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Date: Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 1:39 PM
Subject: Reminder: "Non Relational Databases" is tomorrow, Thursday,
September 3, 2009 7:30 PM!
To: fred at redhotpenguin.com


Meetup Reminder
San Francisco Perl Mongers
Your group has a Meetup tomorrow!
You RSVPed Yes.
What

Non Relational Databases

When

Thursday, September 3, 2009 7:30 PM

Who

12 Yes / 4 Maybe

Where

Cell Space
2050 Bryant St
San Francisco CA 94110
1-415-648-7562

Update your RSVP

12 Perl Mongers RSVPed Yes, including?

see all
Meetup Description

Kristina Codorow of 10gen is working on the perl driver for "MongoDB", a
documented-oriented database:

http://www.mongodb.org/display/DOCS/Home

Location:
Cellspace, 2050 Bryant Street (between 18th and 19th st), Mission district.

Transit info:

Closest BART station is "16th St & Mission". Cellspace is the
same distance from BART as Six Apart (0.6 miles): walk along
16th St towards the Victoria theater at the corner of Capp St.

Cellspace is also on the 27 bus line, which stops at 18th &
Bryant. You can take the 27 from 5th Street & Market, right at
the Powell Street BART/MUNI station.

Cellspace is very close to the 22 bus line, which stops at 16th
and Bryant. You can take the 22 from one of the J-line stops
on Church, e.g. Church & Market. or Church & 16th Street.

Note: The 16th and Mission BART station neigborhood is a bit grubbier
than the BART at Powell Street (though none of them win any prizes).

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From josh at agliodbs.com  Thu Sep  3 15:32:25 2009
From: josh at agliodbs.com (Josh Berkus)
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:32:25 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Reminder for meeting tonight: Bay Bridge Closed!
Message-ID: <4AA043F9.6060003@agliodbs.com>

Perlmongers,

If anyone was planning on driving to the MongoDB presentation at
Cellspace tonight, as a reminder, the Bay Bridge closes at 8pm.  So
don't drive over from the East Bay, take BART.

-- 
Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
www.pgexperts.com

From josh at agliodbs.com  Thu Sep  3 15:53:03 2009
From: josh at agliodbs.com (Josh Berkus)
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 15:53:03 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Need SFPerl organizer ASAP -- meetup tonight maybe
	cancelled!
Message-ID: <4AA048CF.4090303@agliodbs.com>

Fred, Joe, etc:

Cellspace does NOT have us listed on their calendar for tonight.
Instead, they have  a musical event listed which we definitely won't be
able to meet around:  http://www.cellspace.org/new/node/178

We're listed at Cellspace for tommorrow afternoon:
http://www.developerfusion.com/event/59217/non-relational-databases/

Can someone who has the contact information find out from Kristina and
Cellspace what the real schedule is?  If the meetup is cancelled or
postponed, people need to be notified ASAP.

-- 
Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
www.pgexperts.com

From fred at redhotpenguin.com  Thu Sep  3 15:56:01 2009
From: fred at redhotpenguin.com (Fred Moyer)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 15:56:01 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Need SFPerl organizer ASAP -- meetup tonight maybe
	cancelled!
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References: <4AA048CF.4090303@agliodbs.com>
Message-ID: <ad28918e0909031556t1388ed86te830d4b9d8a2a4c0@mail.gmail.com>

I'm pretty sure this is an error on Cellspace's calendar, but will
post back in a few minutes with verification.

Assume it's tonight until further notice.

On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Josh Berkus<josh at agliodbs.com> wrote:
> Fred, Joe, etc:
>
> Cellspace does NOT have us listed on their calendar for tonight.
> Instead, they have ?a musical event listed which we definitely won't be
> able to meet around: ?http://www.cellspace.org/new/node/178
>
> We're listed at Cellspace for tommorrow afternoon:
> http://www.developerfusion.com/event/59217/non-relational-databases/
>
> Can someone who has the contact information find out from Kristina and
> Cellspace what the real schedule is? ?If the meetup is cancelled or
> postponed, people need to be notified ASAP.
>
> --
> Josh Berkus
> PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
> www.pgexperts.com
>

From smurph at smurph.org  Thu Sep  3 16:16:57 2009
From: smurph at smurph.org (smurph)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 16:16:57 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [sf-perl] Need SFPerl organizer ASAP -- meetup tonight maybe
 cancelled!
In-Reply-To: <ad28918e0909031556t1388ed86te830d4b9d8a2a4c0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4AA048CF.4090303@agliodbs.com>
	<ad28918e0909031556t1388ed86te830d4b9d8a2a4c0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0909031614450.4204@boar.he.net>


Cellspace is a pretty big space.

My understanding is the art opening is in the gallery space at the front, 
while the Perl meeting will be in the second story meeting room towards 
the back.

Joe can confirm this as he does double duty as a member of the Cell Space 
events committee.

-smurph


On Thu, 3 Sep 2009, Fred Moyer wrote:

> I'm pretty sure this is an error on Cellspace's calendar, but will
> post back in a few minutes with verification.
>
> Assume it's tonight until further notice.
>
> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Josh Berkus<josh at agliodbs.com> wrote:
>> Fred, Joe, etc:
>>
>> Cellspace does NOT have us listed on their calendar for tonight.
>> Instead, they have ?a musical event listed which we definitely won't be
>> able to meet around: ?http://www.cellspace.org/new/node/178
>>
>> We're listed at Cellspace for tommorrow afternoon:
>> http://www.developerfusion.com/event/59217/non-relational-databases/
>>
>> Can someone who has the contact information find out from Kristina and
>> Cellspace what the real schedule is? ?If the meetup is cancelled or
>> postponed, people need to be notified ASAP.
>>
>> --
>> Josh Berkus
>> PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
>> www.pgexperts.com
>>
> _______________________________________________
> SanFrancisco-pm mailing list
> SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm
>

From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu  Thu Sep  3 16:20:07 2009
From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (Joe Brenner)
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:20:07 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Need SFPerl organizer ASAP -- meetup tonight maybe
	cancelled!
In-Reply-To: <4AA048CF.4090303@agliodbs.com>
References: <4AA048CF.4090303@agliodbs.com>
Message-ID: <200909032320.n83NK7KU051002@kzsu.stanford.edu>

Josh Berkus <josh at agliodbs.com> wrote:

> Fred, Joe, etc:
>
> Cellspace does NOT have us listed on their calendar for tonight.
> Instead, they have  a musical event listed which we definitely won't be
> able to meet around:  http://www.cellspace.org/new/node/178
>
> We're listed at Cellspace for tommorrow afternoon:
> http://www.developerfusion.com/event/59217/non-relational-databases/
>
> Can someone who has the contact information find out from Kristina and
> Cellspace what the real schedule is?  If the meetup is cancelled or
> postponed, people need to be notified ASAP.

Please: the cellspace calendar is in error.  The meeting is tonight,
Thursday night.  There is another event happening at Cellspace at the
same time "Spacecraft", but there shouldn't be any conflict between the
two.



From josh at agliodbs.com  Thu Sep  3 16:23:25 2009
From: josh at agliodbs.com (Josh Berkus)
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:23:25 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Need SFPerl organizer ASAP -- meetup tonight maybe
 cancelled!
In-Reply-To: <200909032320.n83NK7KU051002@kzsu.stanford.edu>
References: <4AA048CF.4090303@agliodbs.com>
	<200909032320.n83NK7KU051002@kzsu.stanford.edu>
Message-ID: <4AA04FED.7080506@agliodbs.com>

Joe,

> Please: the cellspace calendar is in error.  The meeting is tonight,
> Thursday night.  There is another event happening at Cellspace at the
> same time "Spacecraft", but there shouldn't be any conflict between the
> two.

Great!

I hopefully will be bringing some folks from CivicDB.org with me.

-- 
Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
www.pgexperts.com

From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu  Thu Sep  3 16:55:25 2009
From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (Joe Brenner)
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 16:55:25 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Tonights meeting
In-Reply-To: <4AA048CF.4090303@agliodbs.com>
References: <4AA048CF.4090303@agliodbs.com>
Message-ID: <200909032355.n83NtP8G051499@kzsu.stanford.edu>


I've been puttering about Cellspace this afternoon making sure we've got
the basics of computer-to-projector connectivity covered.  Things are
looking okay, but there's not a lot in the way of spares here.
If you've got some favorite video adapter gadgets lying around please
do bring them along tonight.

See you at Cellspace: 2050 Bryant, between 18th and 19th.







From fred at redhotpenguin.com  Fri Sep  4 15:17:31 2009
From: fred at redhotpenguin.com (Fred Moyer)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 15:17:31 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] MongoDB Slides
Message-ID: <ad28918e0909041517j378a02b8h49e259d3af4697d@mail.gmail.com>

Huge thanks to Kristina (@kchodorow) for the MongoDB talk last night.
Here is a link to the slides:

http://www.slideshare.net/kchodorow/nonrelational-databases-1953646


Also, big thanks to Joe for providing a spot at Cellspace, and Smurf
for helping with the setup.  And thanks to everyone who came out to
the talk and beared with the unusually warm night weather.


Next meeting is the 22nd at Six Apart - email Joe if you want to give
a Lightning Talk.

Lightning Talks!

http://www.meetup.com/San-Francisco-Perl-Mongers/calendar/11234115/

From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu  Fri Sep  4 16:40:15 2009
From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (Joe Brenner)
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 16:40:15 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] MongoDB Slides
In-Reply-To: <ad28918e0909041517j378a02b8h49e259d3af4697d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ad28918e0909041517j378a02b8h49e259d3af4697d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200909042340.n84NeFLk071213@kzsu.stanford.edu>


Fred Moyer <fred at redhotpenguin.com> wrote:

> Huge thanks to Kristina (@kchodorow)

And many apologies on my part for consistently misspelling her
last name.  It's "Chodorow":

  http://www.linkedin.com/pub/kristina-chodorow/15/290/30b

> for the MongoDB talk last night.
> Here is a link to the slides:
>
> http://www.slideshare.net/kchodorow/nonrelational-databases-1953646

By the way, this is my association with "Mongo" (I was never much
of a "Blazing Saddles" fan):

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ming_the_Merciless
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongo_(planet)
  http://flashgordon.wikia.com/wiki/Mongo

> Also, big thanks to Joe for providing a spot at Cellspace,

I'd be interested in hearing feedback on what people thought of using
the Cellspace meeting room.  We might continue to use it as a back-up
location in the future.

In general, I'd say that Cellspace has weaker Muni access, but easier
parking.  Distance from Bart is the same, though using the 16th &
Mission stop can be challenging for some people.

During hot weather like that, obviously an air-conditioned place would
be a better idea, but it's hard to plan on the weather around here more
than a week in advance.

Any other issues?

> Next meeting is the 22nd at Six Apart - email Joe if you want to give
> a Lightning Talk.

Indeed.  Just Hit Reply.

> Lightning Talks!
>
> http://www.meetup.com/San-Francisco-Perl-Mongers/calendar/11234115/


From josh at agliodbs.com  Fri Sep  4 17:05:36 2009
From: josh at agliodbs.com (Josh Berkus)
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 2009 17:05:36 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] MongoDB Slides
In-Reply-To: <200909042340.n84NeFLk071213@kzsu.stanford.edu>
References: <ad28918e0909041517j378a02b8h49e259d3af4697d@mail.gmail.com>
	<200909042340.n84NeFLk071213@kzsu.stanford.edu>
Message-ID: <4AA1AB50.7070303@agliodbs.com>

Joe,

> I'd be interested in hearing feedback on what people thought of using
> the Cellspace meeting room.  We might continue to use it as a back-up
> location in the future.

I think it worked fine as a location.


-- 
Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
www.pgexperts.com

From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu  Sat Sep  5 12:23:59 2009
From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (Joe Brenner)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 2009 12:23:59 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] speaking of lightning
Message-ID: <200909051924.n85JNxmZ085788@kzsu.stanford.edu>


I see Josh Berkus recommends doing lightning talks:

  http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/database-soup/tech-talk-tip-4-do-a-lightning-talk-33496

And myself, I highly recommend doing talks at sf.pm before trying them
out on a bigger audience.

Myself, I found it excellent preparation for delivering a talk at OSCON:
I knew exactly how much of the material I was going to get through in
the allotted time, I certainly didn't need to read my slides, and I
didn't feel any trace of nervousness.

Lighning Talks are now *less* than three weeks away, September 22nd,
back at the Six Apart location:

  http://www.meetup.com/San-Francisco-Perl-Mongers/calendar/11234115/

Hit me with your ideas...

From swartz at pobox.com  Tue Sep  8 09:42:50 2009
From: swartz at pobox.com (Jonathan Swartz)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 2009 09:42:50 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] citizen space - a nice place to work in San Francisco
In-Reply-To: <200909051924.n85JNxmZ085788@kzsu.stanford.edu>
References: <200909051924.n85JNxmZ085788@kzsu.stanford.edu>
Message-ID: <72E0E60D-09A3-4DFF-A170-E88FAD437643@pobox.com>

I mentioned Citizen Space at the last meeting. It's a coworking space  
in SOMA for independent workers, like a cafe without the required  
purchase and guilt, or like an office without the cubicles and bosses.

It's free to drop in, with wireless internet, kitchen, whiteboard, and  
a nice big shared work table. If you like it and want a permanent desk  
with your own monitor and stuff, you can rent one for $400-425 a  
month. I've been doing so happily for the past year and a half.

Would be cool to have other Perl developers here.

I'm here most days of the week, if you drop in say hi!

425 2nd Street @ Harrison
http://citizenspace.us/

Jon


From james at ActionMessage.com  Wed Sep  9 18:38:41 2009
From: james at ActionMessage.com (James Briggs)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 18:38:41 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] citizen space - or Kinko's
In-Reply-To: <72E0E60D-09A3-4DFF-A170-E88FAD437643@pobox.com>
References: <200909051924.n85JNxmZ085788@kzsu.stanford.edu>
	<72E0E60D-09A3-4DFF-A170-E88FAD437643@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <20090910012235.M60265@actionmessage.com>

On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 09:42:50 -0700, Jonathan Swartz wrote
> I mentioned Citizen Space at the last meeting. It's a coworking 
> space  in SOMA for independent workers, like a cafe without the 
> required  purchase and guilt, or like an office without the cubicles 
> and bosses.
> 
> It's free to drop in, with wireless internet, kitchen, whiteboard, 
> and  a nice big shared work table. If you like it and want a 
> permanent desk  with your own monitor and stuff, you can rent one 
> for $400-425 a  month. I've been doing so happily for the past year 
> and a half.

Kinko's is a more affordable option for most people. There's still a
few 7x24 locations in San Jose, and it looks like one in SF at
100 California St.

T-mobile wifi is available for only $10 to $20/month and serves as
"proof of purchase" to use the store, and covers all Kinkos in CA and HI,
and also most Norcal airports

http://www.fedex.com/Dropoff/SearchAction.do , filter on "Fedex Office"

James.

From swartz at pobox.com  Wed Sep  9 20:52:38 2009
From: swartz at pobox.com (Jonathan Swartz)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 2009 20:52:38 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] citizen space - or Kinko's
In-Reply-To: <20090910012235.M60265@actionmessage.com>
References: <200909051924.n85JNxmZ085788@kzsu.stanford.edu>
	<72E0E60D-09A3-4DFF-A170-E88FAD437643@pobox.com>
	<20090910012235.M60265@actionmessage.com>
Message-ID: <DA0A3630-1FA5-46BF-891F-4E3D928E2823@pobox.com>

> On Tue, 8 Sep 2009 09:42:50 -0700, Jonathan Swartz wrote
>> I mentioned Citizen Space at the last meeting. It's a coworking
>> space  in SOMA for independent workers, like a cafe without the
>> required  purchase and guilt, or like an office without the cubicles
>> and bosses.
>>
>> It's free to drop in, with wireless internet, kitchen, whiteboard,
>> and  a nice big shared work table. If you like it and want a
>> permanent desk  with your own monitor and stuff, you can rent one
>> for $400-425 a  month. I've been doing so happily for the past year
>> and a half.
>
> Kinko's is a more affordable option for most people. There's still a
> few 7x24 locations in San Jose, and it looks like one in SF at
> 100 California St.
>
> T-mobile wifi is available for only $10 to $20/month and serves as
> "proof of purchase" to use the store, and covers all Kinkos in CA  
> and HI,
> and also most Norcal airports
>
> http://www.fedex.com/Dropoff/SearchAction.do , filter on "Fedex  
> Office"
>

You mean to drop-in and work on your laptop, or to rent a permanent  
desk?

Jon


From james at ActionMessage.com  Thu Sep 10 00:47:07 2009
From: james at ActionMessage.com (James Briggs)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 00:47:07 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] citizen space - or Kinko's
In-Reply-To: <DA0A3630-1FA5-46BF-891F-4E3D928E2823@pobox.com>
References: <200909051924.n85JNxmZ085788@kzsu.stanford.edu>
	<72E0E60D-09A3-4DFF-A170-E88FAD437643@pobox.com>
	<20090910012235.M60265@actionmessage.com>
	<DA0A3630-1FA5-46BF-891F-4E3D928E2823@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <20090910073545.M19304@actionmessage.com>

> You mean to drop-in and work on your laptop, or to rent a permanent  
> desk?
> 
> Jon

Obviously, Kinko's is not "permanent", but then it's 98% cheaper.

Most people use notebook computers at Kinko's, though I have seen
people occasionally use small desktop computers and IBM typewriters.

If you do rent an office, make sure it has AC for the hours you plan
to use it. Most don't during weekends and after hours.

James.

From swartz at pobox.com  Thu Sep 10 06:14:24 2009
From: swartz at pobox.com (Jonathan Swartz)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 06:14:24 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] citizen space - or Kinko's
In-Reply-To: <20090910073545.M19304@actionmessage.com>
References: <200909051924.n85JNxmZ085788@kzsu.stanford.edu>
	<72E0E60D-09A3-4DFF-A170-E88FAD437643@pobox.com>
	<20090910012235.M60265@actionmessage.com>
	<DA0A3630-1FA5-46BF-891F-4E3D928E2823@pobox.com>
	<20090910073545.M19304@actionmessage.com>
Message-ID: <EFD4E7FD-6FE2-4DE4-8BC1-0E0AA73637C3@pobox.com>


On Sep 10, 2009, at 12:47 AM, James Briggs wrote:

>> You mean to drop-in and work on your laptop, or to rent a permanent
>> desk?
>>
>> Jon
>
> Obviously, Kinko's is not "permanent", but then it's 98% cheaper.
>
> Most people use notebook computers at Kinko's, though I have seen
> people occasionally use small desktop computers and IBM typewriters.
>
> If you do rent an office, make sure it has AC for the hours you plan
> to use it. Most don't during weekends and after hours.
>

Citizen Space is *free* for casual drop ins. Lots of people drop in  
and work all day for free. If they feel so inclined, they leave a  
small donation.

The fee is only if you want membership, meaning a permanent desk and a  
key.

It's true though, $400 is a chunk of change, and isn't for everybody.  
Why do that when you could, in theory, work at home or at cafes? For  
me, the answer is that if I didn't have a comfy dedicated office to go  
to every day, I would lose my mind and could not actually keep  
consulting. :)

Jon


From josh at agliodbs.com  Thu Sep 10 10:36:44 2009
From: josh at agliodbs.com (Josh Berkus)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 10:36:44 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] [Fwd: The SCALE 8x CFP is open!]
Message-ID: <4AA9392C.2090700@agliodbs.com>

All,

This is a great conference, and they're always looking for new speakers.
 Plus, I'll probably be driving down again, which would allow us to
caravan/carpool.

Send in a proposal today!

--Josh

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: The SCALE 8x CFP is open!
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2009 14:54:45 -0700
From: SCALE Team <scale-announce at socallinuxexpo.org>
To: josh at agliodbs.com

The Eighth Annual So Cal Linux Expo is coming! It will be February
19th-21st, 2010, and will again be at the Westin LAX.

The Call for Papers for the conference is now open. Besides the regular
conference tracks, SCALE 8x will include specialty tracks for both
developers and beginners.

If you'd like to speak at SCALE 8x, see http://socallinuxexpo.org to
submit your presentation proposal.

Mark your calendars ? be in Los Angeles February 19-21st, 2010 for SCALE
8x!

-- 
Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
www.pgexperts.com

From fred at redhotpenguin.com  Tue Sep 15 14:17:03 2009
From: fred at redhotpenguin.com (Fred Moyer)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 14:17:03 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Fwd: Reminder: Lightning Talks! is in one week.
In-Reply-To: <1780513094.1253049278947.JavaMail.root@jobs.meetup.com>
References: <1780513094.1253049278947.JavaMail.root@jobs.meetup.com>
Message-ID: <ad28918e0909151417j61b864c7t96c8af890b35cf83@mail.gmail.com>

Lightning Talks in one week!

This is a great opportunity to give your first talk if you have never
given one before.  Please RSVP at Meetup!

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Meetup Reminder <info at meetup.com>
Date: Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 2:14 PM
Subject: Reminder: Lightning Talks! is in one week.
To: fred at redhotpenguin.com


Meetup Reminder
San Francisco Perl Mongers
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What

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When

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Where

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San Francisco CA 94107

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Meetup Description

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The September SF.pm meeting will feature lightning talks. The SF.pm
Lightning talk style differs from OSCON.

The Geoffrey Avery style is 5 minutes. We do a variation, 5 minutes
target, but with a 2 minute extension allowed.

We also allow questions, and we prefer slides up on the web or USB
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From fred at redhotpenguin.com  Tue Sep 15 23:50:44 2009
From: fred at redhotpenguin.com (Fred Moyer)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2009 23:50:44 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] speaking of lightning
In-Reply-To: <200909051924.n85JNxmZ085788@kzsu.stanford.edu>
References: <200909051924.n85JNxmZ085788@kzsu.stanford.edu>
Message-ID: <ad28918e0909152350o107717d4q8008bcd26e6b78ab@mail.gmail.com>

On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Joe Brenner <doom at kzsu.stanford.edu> wrote:
> ?http://www.meetup.com/San-Francisco-Perl-Mongers/calendar/11234115/
>
> Hit me with your ideas...

I'll give a talk:

"Technical Debt:  A Secret Superpower for your Startup"

From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu  Thu Sep 17 15:19:25 2009
From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (Joe Brenner)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 15:19:25 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] last call for lightning talks...
In-Reply-To: <200909051924.n85JNxmZ085788@kzsu.stanford.edu>
References: <200909051924.n85JNxmZ085788@kzsu.stanford.edu>
Message-ID: <200909172219.n8HMJPXp033892@kzsu.stanford.edu>


Last call for lightning talks...

One more time SF.PM is doing lighning talks next week, on September
22nd, over at Six Apart:

   http://www.meetup.com/San-Francisco-Perl-Mongers/calendar/11234115/

We've got around 5 or 6 lighting talks scheduled, but there's definitely
room for a few more.

Anyone else up for speaking? Send me email. It's fun and educational.

Also, I plan on filling in any unused time by doing additional talks
about stuff I've been thinking about lately.  Since most of that has
been emacs/perl related stuff, the more talks we get, the less you'll
have to listen to me babble about emacs.


From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu  Thu Sep 17 18:58:14 2009
From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (Joe Brenner)
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:58:14 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] last call for lightning talks...
In-Reply-To: <200909172219.n8HMJPXp033892@kzsu.stanford.edu>
References: <200909051924.n85JNxmZ085788@kzsu.stanford.edu>
	<200909172219.n8HMJPXp033892@kzsu.stanford.edu>
Message-ID: <200909180158.n8I1wE22037415@kzsu.stanford.edu>


Joe Brenner <doom at kzsu.stanford.edu> wrote:

> Last call for lightning talks...

But... I didn't mean to imply that last-minute drop-in talks aren't
welcome.  (I don't know how much of my stuff I'll have finished by
then either).

> One more time SF.PM is doing lighning talks next week, on September
> 22nd, over at Six Apart:
>
>    http://www.meetup.com/San-Francisco-Perl-Mongers/calendar/11234115/

From josh at agliodbs.com  Fri Sep 18 09:04:58 2009
From: josh at agliodbs.com (Josh Berkus)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 09:04:58 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] last call for lightning talks...
In-Reply-To: <200909172219.n8HMJPXp033892@kzsu.stanford.edu>
References: <200909051924.n85JNxmZ085788@kzsu.stanford.edu>
	<200909172219.n8HMJPXp033892@kzsu.stanford.edu>
Message-ID: <4AB3AFAA.6090204@agliodbs.com>

On 9/17/09 3:19 PM, Joe Brenner wrote:
> Last call for lightning talks...
> 
> One more time SF.PM is doing lighning talks next week, on September
> 22nd, over at Six Apart:
> 
>    http://www.meetup.com/San-Francisco-Perl-Mongers/calendar/11234115/
> 
> We've got around 5 or 6 lighting talks scheduled, but there's definitely
> room for a few more.
> 
> Anyone else up for speaking? Send me email. It's fun and educational.

I might also do "PG hstore and Perl Hashes" if I get time to put it
together.  Put that last on the lineup in case I don't get to it.

-- 
Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
www.pgexperts.com

From fred at redhotpenguin.com  Fri Sep 18 12:31:38 2009
From: fred at redhotpenguin.com (Fred Moyer)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 12:31:38 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] IRC
In-Reply-To: <e93f01ea0909181226n17c01da9w10f78c8eb6ca1971@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e93f01ea0909171447q7ed11fffgb5ea05a8f10829b5@mail.gmail.com>
	<ad28918e0909171453l7d9624c1rccfe37b028422f75@mail.gmail.com>
	<e93f01ea0909181226n17c01da9w10f78c8eb6ca1971@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ad28918e0909181231n7e8f48e4p241dda6ebb5df301@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Stephen,

Please cc the SF.pm list on all replies; this will ensure that it gets
into the proper place in my email inbox so I can respond.  Or someone
else on the list can respond as well if I win the lottery and move to
New Zealand :)

I think the best way to do stuff like this is just to do it.

#sfpm on freenode?

- Fred

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Stephen Blum <blum.stephen at gmail.com> wrote:
> Greetings Fred Moyer,
>
> Thank you for the go-ahead.? I won't decide to through a channel on freenode
> and hope people will join, perhaps a meeting note can help decide this.
> Looking forward to lightning talks.
>
>
> Best,
>
> Stephen
>
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Fred Moyer <fred at redhotpenguin.com> wrote:
>>
>> There is no official channel, but feel free to create one and post the
>> location and channel to the list.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Stephen Blum <blum.stephen at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Greetings,
>> >
>> > I am new to Bay Area.? Not new to *PUG.? I'm from SPUG (Seattle).? Does
>> > there exist an IRC channel for SFPUG / (SF.PM)?
>> >
>> > Looking forward to meeting on 22nd; only 2 blocks away from office.
>> >
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > Stephen Blum
>> >
>
>

From dan at peeron.com  Fri Sep 18 12:43:08 2009
From: dan at peeron.com (Dan Boger)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 12:43:08 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] IRC
In-Reply-To: <ad28918e0909181231n7e8f48e4p241dda6ebb5df301@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e93f01ea0909171447q7ed11fffgb5ea05a8f10829b5@mail.gmail.com> 
	<ad28918e0909171453l7d9624c1rccfe37b028422f75@mail.gmail.com> 
	<e93f01ea0909181226n17c01da9w10f78c8eb6ca1971@mail.gmail.com> 
	<ad28918e0909181231n7e8f48e4p241dda6ebb5df301@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ced6c8e30909181243l48c7f1e1j86bde57260cb06c0@mail.gmail.com>

Wouldn't it make more sense to have it on irc.perl.org?  That's where we
have the #boston.pm channel :)

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 12:31, Fred Moyer <fred at redhotpenguin.com> wrote:

> Hi Stephen,
>
> Please cc the SF.pm list on all replies; this will ensure that it gets
> into the proper place in my email inbox so I can respond.  Or someone
> else on the list can respond as well if I win the lottery and move to
> New Zealand :)
>
> I think the best way to do stuff like this is just to do it.
>
> #sfpm on freenode?
>
> - Fred
>
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Stephen Blum <blum.stephen at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Greetings Fred Moyer,
> >
> > Thank you for the go-ahead.  I won't decide to through a channel on
> freenode
> > and hope people will join, perhaps a meeting note can help decide this.
> > Looking forward to lightning talks.
> >
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Stephen
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Fred Moyer <fred at redhotpenguin.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> There is no official channel, but feel free to create one and post the
> >> location and channel to the list.
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Stephen Blum <blum.stephen at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Greetings,
> >> >
> >> > I am new to Bay Area.  Not new to *PUG.  I'm from SPUG (Seattle).
> Does
> >> > there exist an IRC channel for SFPUG / (SF.PM)?
> >> >
> >> > Looking forward to meeting on 22nd; only 2 blocks away from office.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Best,
> >> >
> >> > Stephen Blum
> >> >
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
> SanFrancisco-pm mailing list
> SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm
>



-- 
Dan Boger
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From fred at redhotpenguin.com  Fri Sep 18 12:45:21 2009
From: fred at redhotpenguin.com (Fred Moyer)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 12:45:21 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] IRC
In-Reply-To: <ced6c8e30909181243l48c7f1e1j86bde57260cb06c0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e93f01ea0909171447q7ed11fffgb5ea05a8f10829b5@mail.gmail.com>
	<ad28918e0909171453l7d9624c1rccfe37b028422f75@mail.gmail.com>
	<e93f01ea0909181226n17c01da9w10f78c8eb6ca1971@mail.gmail.com>
	<ad28918e0909181231n7e8f48e4p241dda6ebb5df301@mail.gmail.com>
	<ced6c8e30909181243l48c7f1e1j86bde57260cb06c0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ad28918e0909181245y5abf9e19t2eb3e224f8298e4f@mail.gmail.com>

Definitely.  Hereby I dub #sf.pm on irc.perl.org the official SF.pm channel.

Go forth and chat :)

2009/9/18 Dan Boger <dan at peeron.com>:
> Wouldn't it make more sense to have it on irc.perl.org?? That's where we
> have the #boston.pm channel :)
>
> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 12:31, Fred Moyer <fred at redhotpenguin.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Stephen,
>>
>> Please cc the SF.pm list on all replies; this will ensure that it gets
>> into the proper place in my email inbox so I can respond. ?Or someone
>> else on the list can respond as well if I win the lottery and move to
>> New Zealand :)
>>
>> I think the best way to do stuff like this is just to do it.
>>
>> #sfpm on freenode?
>>
>> - Fred
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Stephen Blum <blum.stephen at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Greetings Fred Moyer,
>> >
>> > Thank you for the go-ahead.? I won't decide to through a channel on
>> > freenode
>> > and hope people will join, perhaps a meeting note can help decide this.
>> > Looking forward to lightning talks.
>> >
>> >
>> > Best,
>> >
>> > Stephen
>> >
>> > On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Fred Moyer <fred at redhotpenguin.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> There is no official channel, but feel free to create one and post the
>> >> location and channel to the list.
>> >>
>> >> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Stephen Blum <blum.stephen at gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > Greetings,
>> >> >
>> >> > I am new to Bay Area.? Not new to *PUG.? I'm from SPUG (Seattle).
>> >> > Does
>> >> > there exist an IRC channel for SFPUG / (SF.PM)?
>> >> >
>> >> > Looking forward to meeting on 22nd; only 2 blocks away from office.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Best,
>> >> >
>> >> > Stephen Blum
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> SanFrancisco-pm mailing list
>> SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm
>
>
>
> --
> Dan Boger
>
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> SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm
>
>

From drforr at pobox.com  Fri Sep 18 21:36:52 2009
From: drforr at pobox.com (Jeffrey Goff)
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 21:36:52 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] IRC
In-Reply-To: <ad28918e0909181245y5abf9e19t2eb3e224f8298e4f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e93f01ea0909171447q7ed11fffgb5ea05a8f10829b5@mail.gmail.com>
	<ad28918e0909171453l7d9624c1rccfe37b028422f75@mail.gmail.com>
	<e93f01ea0909181226n17c01da9w10f78c8eb6ca1971@mail.gmail.com>
	<ad28918e0909181231n7e8f48e4p241dda6ebb5df301@mail.gmail.com>
	<ced6c8e30909181243l48c7f1e1j86bde57260cb06c0@mail.gmail.com>
	<ad28918e0909181245y5abf9e19t2eb3e224f8298e4f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <081FEC85-43EE-4C6D-A99C-CAB8768FADC6@pobox.com>


On Sep 18, 2009, at 12:45 PM, Fred Moyer wrote:

> Definitely.  Hereby I dub #sf.pm on irc.perl.org the official SF.pm  
> channel.j

Excellent choice. I happen to be an oper on the network should there  
be issues :)
>
>
> Go forth and chat :)
>
> 2009/9/18 Dan Boger <dan at peeron.com>:
>> Wouldn't it make more sense to have it on irc.perl.org?  That's  
>> where we
>> have the #boston.pm channel :)
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 12:31, Fred Moyer <fred at redhotpenguin.com>  
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>
>>> Please cc the SF.pm list on all replies; this will ensure that it  
>>> gets
>>> into the proper place in my email inbox so I can respond.  Or  
>>> someone
>>> else on the list can respond as well if I win the lottery and move  
>>> to
>>> New Zealand :)
>>>
>>> I think the best way to do stuff like this is just to do it.
>>>
>>> #sfpm on freenode?
>>>
>>> - Fred
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Stephen Blum <blum.stephen at gmail.com 
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>> Greetings Fred Moyer,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for the go-ahead.  I won't decide to through a channel on
>>>> freenode
>>>> and hope people will join, perhaps a meeting note can help decide  
>>>> this.
>>>> Looking forward to lightning talks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Stephen
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 2:53 PM, Fred Moyer  
>>>> <fred at redhotpenguin.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no official channel, but feel free to create one and  
>>>>> post the
>>>>> location and channel to the list.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 2:47 PM, Stephen Blum <blum.stephen at gmail.com 
>>>>> >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Greetings,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am new to Bay Area.  Not new to *PUG.  I'm from SPUG (Seattle).
>>>>>> Does
>>>>>> there exist an IRC channel for SFPUG / (SF.PM)?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking forward to meeting on 22nd; only 2 blocks away from  
>>>>>> office.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stephen Blum
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> SanFrancisco-pm mailing list
>>> SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org
>>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dan Boger
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> SanFrancisco-pm mailing list
>> SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm
>>
>>
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From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu  Mon Sep 21 16:41:11 2009
From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (Joe Brenner)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:41:11 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Lightning Talks Schedule
Message-ID: <200909212341.n8LNfBEP015863@kzsu.stanford.edu>


This Tuesday (tomorrow night), in case you haven't heard, is a round of
lightning talks:

  http://www.meetup.com/San-Francisco-Perl-Mongers/calendar/11234115/

The schedule thus far is:

  Fred Moyer -  "Technical Debt:  A Secret Superpower for your Startup"

  Jonathan Swartz - "Server::Control"

  David Muir Sharnoff

    "Test::MultiFork" and the OOPS test suite.
     Proc::Parallel used in do.hosts

  Yary Hluchan - "Plural Perl 6"

  Joseph Brenner - one or more of

    "A new release of perlnow.el"
    "Quick and (slightly) Dirty Test Code"
    "Writing CPAN modules. It's easy. And hard."

  Josh Berkus (tentative):

    "PG hstore and Perl Hashes"

  Rich Morin (very tentative):

    Semantic Web and SPARQL


From josh at agliodbs.com  Mon Sep 21 20:59:29 2009
From: josh at agliodbs.com (Josh Berkus)
Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 20:59:29 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Lightning Talks Schedule
In-Reply-To: <200909212341.n8LNfBEP015863@kzsu.stanford.edu>
References: <200909212341.n8LNfBEP015863@kzsu.stanford.edu>
Message-ID: <4AB84BA1.8010108@agliodbs.com>

Joe,

>   Josh Berkus (tentative):
> 
>     "PG hstore and Perl Hashes"

I'm supposed to be down *firm* for:

	"Combinatorics and The Sex Lives of Rockers"

I won't be doing the hstore one; I haven't had time to work on it.

-- 
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PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
www.pgexperts.com

From swartz at pobox.com  Tue Sep 22 07:36:40 2009
From: swartz at pobox.com (Jonathan Swartz)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 07:36:40 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] in regards to pizza
In-Reply-To: <4AB84BA1.8010108@agliodbs.com>
References: <200909212341.n8LNfBEP015863@kzsu.stanford.edu>
	<4AB84BA1.8010108@agliodbs.com>
Message-ID: <B7B49000-4748-4E96-900F-2653891AA75B@pobox.com>

Can I make a request for one of the pizzas tonight to be plain cheese  
(or cheese and mushrooms)?

Hope that's not too boring. I have a lame stomach that can't handle  
onions, garlic or pepperoni, so in the past meetings none of the  
pizzas have worked for me.

Thanks!
Jon


From fred at redhotpenguin.com  Tue Sep 22 08:04:46 2009
From: fred at redhotpenguin.com (Fred Moyer)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 08:04:46 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] in regards to pizza
In-Reply-To: <B7B49000-4748-4E96-900F-2653891AA75B@pobox.com>
References: <200909212341.n8LNfBEP015863@kzsu.stanford.edu>
	<4AB84BA1.8010108@agliodbs.com>
	<B7B49000-4748-4E96-900F-2653891AA75B@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <ad28918e0909220804y52276e41p73d15e627b45c7f1@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 7:36 AM, Jonathan Swartz <swartz at pobox.com> wrote:
> Can I make a request for one of the pizzas tonight to be plain cheese (or
> cheese and mushrooms)?

Absolutely!

>
> Hope that's not too boring. I have a lame stomach that can't handle onions,
> garlic or pepperoni, so in the past meetings none of the pizzas have worked
> for me.
>
> Thanks!
> Jon
>
> _______________________________________________
> SanFrancisco-pm mailing list
> SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm
>

From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu  Tue Sep 22 11:33:12 2009
From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (Joe Brenner)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 11:33:12 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Lightning Talks Schedule
In-Reply-To: <4AB84BA1.8010108@agliodbs.com>
References: <200909212341.n8LNfBEP015863@kzsu.stanford.edu>
	<4AB84BA1.8010108@agliodbs.com>
Message-ID: <200909221833.n8MIXCHa032443@kzsu.stanford.edu>


Josh Berkus <josh at agliodbs.com> wrote:
> >   Josh Berkus (tentative):
> >
> >     "PG hstore and Perl Hashes"
>
> I'm supposed to be down *firm* for:
>
> 	"Combinatorics and The Sex Lives of Rockers"

Ah, very good.  I'm resisting the temptation to make Ruby jokes.


From rdm at cfcl.com  Tue Sep 22 14:23:28 2009
From: rdm at cfcl.com (Rich Morin)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:23:28 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Perl (etc) books
Message-ID: <p0623091cc6deef9e8007@[192.168.1.205]>

FYI, I'm planning to bring a couple of cubic feet of somewhat
dated reference books (mostly Perl) to tonight's meeting.  Get
there early if you want the best pickings...

-r
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From not.com at gmail.com  Tue Sep 22 22:08:51 2009
From: not.com at gmail.com (yary)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:08:51 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Installing Perl 6 Lightning Talk slides
Message-ID: <75cbfa570909222208p4631479fifd06daa196aadd1a@mail.gmail.com>

Slides for my lightning talk about picking a Perl6, and installing Rakudo, at
http://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dfxtmnkk_28dnrsbtd2

plus some notes back when I was first installing Rakudo and Pugs when
it was a little more difficult than it is today-
http://docs.google.com/View?id=dfxtmnkk_22ffrxx3kj

-y

From josh at agliodbs.com  Tue Sep 22 22:21:09 2009
From: josh at agliodbs.com (Josh Berkus)
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 22:21:09 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Combinatorics and David B.'s private life
Message-ID: <4AB9B045.2060704@agliodbs.com>

... as a perl script.

-- 
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PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
www.pgexperts.com
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From swartz at pobox.com  Wed Sep 23 05:47:02 2009
From: swartz at pobox.com (Jonathan Swartz)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 05:47:02 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] How not to restart mod_perl talk
In-Reply-To: <75cbfa570909222208p4631479fifd06daa196aadd1a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <75cbfa570909222208p4631479fifd06daa196aadd1a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <54ECD21A-D9CC-47AB-AE07-96025668A657@pobox.com>

My talk, in blog form:

http://www.openswartz.com/2009/09/22/how-not-to-restart-mod_perl-servers/


From rdm at cfcl.com  Wed Sep 23 15:31:49 2009
From: rdm at cfcl.com (Rich Morin)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 15:31:49 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] "Modeling for Network Administration" blog entry
Message-ID: <p0623092ac6e0508735a4@[192.168.1.205]>

Anthony Bull's presentation on Monitoring as a Service prompted me
to blog about some ideas I've had concerning the Semantic Web,
Network Administration, etc.  Please take a look, comment, etc.

  Modeling for Network Administration
  http://www.cfcl.com/rdm/weblog/archives/001698.html

-r


P.S.  It's late notice, to be sure, but you're invited to join
      the (small) crowd tonight at the Beer and Scripting SIG:
      http://www.cfcl.com/rdm/bass
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From josh at agliodbs.com  Wed Sep 23 16:59:45 2009
From: josh at agliodbs.com (Josh Berkus)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:59:45 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] BASS tonight
In-Reply-To: <p0623092ac6e0508735a4@[192.168.1.205]>
References: <p0623092ac6e0508735a4@[192.168.1.205]>
Message-ID: <4ABAB671.5050306@agliodbs.com>

On 9/23/09 3:31 PM, Rich Morin wrote:
> P.S.  It's late notice, to be sure, but you're invited to join
>       the (small) crowd tonight at the Beer and Scripting SIG:
>       http://www.cfcl.com/rdm/bass

Rich: if nobody else shows up, I'll show up to talk about RDF and
neutral data storage.

-- 
Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
www.pgexperts.com

From rdm at cfcl.com  Wed Sep 23 17:05:19 2009
From: rdm at cfcl.com (Rich Morin)
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 17:05:19 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] BASS tonight
In-Reply-To: <4ABAB671.5050306@agliodbs.com>
References: <p0623092ac6e0508735a4@[192.168.1.205]>
	<4ABAB671.5050306@agliodbs.com>
Message-ID: <p06230932c6e067f5b371@[192.168.1.205]>

At 16:59 -0700 9/23/09, Josh Berkus wrote:
> Rich: if nobody else shows up, I'll show up to talk about
> RDF and neutral data storage.

Cool!  Actually, feel free to do so even if other folks DO
show up. :)

-r
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From rdm at cfcl.com  Fri Sep 25 19:25:27 2009
From: rdm at cfcl.com (Rich Morin)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2009 19:25:27 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Tim Bunce - Perl Myths 200909
Message-ID: <p0623094ec6e32be89eb1@[192.168.1.205]>

http://www.slideshare.net/Tim.Bunce/perl-myths-200909
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From rjray at blackperl.com  Tue Sep 29 11:21:12 2009
From: rjray at blackperl.com (Randy J. Ray)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:21:12 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] [JOB] PHP/Perl/Java in San Mateo
Message-ID: <4AC25018.6040408@blackperl.com>

(I hope I got the subject-line tag right, apologies if I used the wrong style
of brackets for people's filters.)

I'm posting this here even though the job is not primarily Perl. Because of our
architecture, Perl knowledge would be very helpful on top of the "primary"
skills the position requires.

My company is currently looking for a couple of front-end engineers. Our
platform is a mix of PHP (front-end), Perl (back-end and aggregate components),
with some Java and C++ thrown in just to keep things from getting too boring.
As these openings are for the front-end, strong knowledge of PHP (including OO
development and designing around the MVC pattern) would be the most important
skill to have, along with the usual HTML/CSS/Javascript background. More
information can be found here:

	http://www.oodle.com/info/jobs/

Besides PHP, you'd do well to have some background in one of Java or C++ (Java
in particular, as the person maintaining the Java code was one of the recent
departures).

While the job listing doesn't refer to Perl, and I've focused on other
languages as well, we do a *lot* of Perl in this shop. Knowing it will be a
plus, even if it isn't listed explicitly. Personally, I straddle both parts of
the system; I write in Perl and have been learning PHP to contribute to some of
the admin tools that are used internally. But since I'm capable of more than
just Perl, I figure there are people on this list who would also be interested,
even if Perl isn't where you'll be spending most (or even much) of your time.

Oodle is a small company, under 30 employees, in downtown San Mateo. It's
walking distance from the San Mateo Caltrain station, or if you drive they
provide window-stickers (free parking) for the nearby parking lots. Everyone
here in the engineering team writes code, including the CTO. They've actually
turned people away who seemed technically competent, but showed no real
enthusiasm for writing code. If you like to write, and create, you would
probably like our environment.

Please feel free to write me (off-list, of course) if you have any questions or
are interested and want to send me a resume.

Thanks for reading!

Randy
-- 
"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
Randy J. Ray      Sunnyvale, CA      http://www.rjray.org   rjray at blackperl.com

Silicon Valley Scale Modelers: http://www.svsm.org

From josh at agliodbs.com  Tue Sep 29 12:21:57 2009
From: josh at agliodbs.com (Josh Berkus)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:21:57 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Cheap non-pizza Downtown?
Message-ID: <4AC25E55.60005@agliodbs.com>

Postgres & Perl people,

We all know pizza from geek meetings.  It's cheap, it's caloric, and is
generally accepted.  Thing is, those of us who go to 5 or more geek
meetings per month get kind of tired of the pizza, especially if we're
trying to lose weight.

For the two SFPUGs, it would be nice to have some food options which
weren't pizza.  So I'm looking for people to recommend any places they
know which:

(a) Are Indian, Chinese, Middle Eastern, Thai, or something creative
(b) Deliver to offices Downtown or SOMA at 7pm.
(c) Are $10/person or less for generous food for 12 people or more.

Thanks for help!

-- 
Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
www.pgexperts.com

From rdm at cfcl.com  Tue Sep 29 13:16:16 2009
From: rdm at cfcl.com (Rich Morin)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:16:16 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] Cheap non-pizza Downtown?
In-Reply-To: <4AC25E55.60005@agliodbs.com>
References: <4AC25E55.60005@agliodbs.com>
Message-ID: <p06230965c6e819ed6507@[192.168.1.205]>

There are only a limited number of cuisines that taste right
after being transported, put on a steam table, etc.

IMHO, pizza isn't really one of them (compare the taste of a
freshly-baked pizza to one which has been steamed for twenty
minutes in a cardboard box).  So, I often have some other
dinner before attending meetings where pizza will be served.

Slow-cooked sauces over rice work pretty well.  So, Indian
and some Chinese (eg, clay pot) are fine.  Soups would also
work OK, except that they may be awkward to eat.

It's a puzzlement...

-r
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From quinn at fairpath.com  Tue Sep 29 16:34:08 2009
From: quinn at fairpath.com (Quinn Weaver)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:34:08 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] [sfpug] Cheap non-pizza Downtown?
In-Reply-To: <4AC25E55.60005@agliodbs.com>
References: <4AC25E55.60005@agliodbs.com>
Message-ID: <6ebbd8770909291634o39e8d38fs8de8cd98b03cffbc@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Josh Berkus <josh at agliodbs.com> wrote:
> Postgres & Perl people,
>
> We all know pizza from geek meetings.  It's cheap, it's caloric, and is
> generally accepted.  Thing is, those of us who go to 5 or more geek
> meetings per month get kind of tired of the pizza, especially if we're
> trying to lose weight.
>
> For the two SFPUGs, it would be nice to have some food options which
> weren't pizza.  So I'm looking for people to recommend any places they
> know which:
>
> (a) Are Indian, Chinese, Middle Eastern, Thai, or something creative
> (b) Deliver to offices Downtown or SOMA at 7pm.
> (c) Are $10/person or less for generous food for 12 people or more.

In my days running SF Perl Mongers, I liked BKK Thai:  http://bit.ly/iIgSV

Pros:  they deliver on time, and they have yummy food (Including a
surprisingly good tofu satay).

Cons:  they might be a little more expensive than pizza; I don't
remember exactly.  Their curries are kinda soupy, so you need plastic
plates or better (no, they don't provide them).  Ordering is by phone
into a loud environment, so be sure you have a good connection.

Hope this helps,

-- 
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Full-stack web design and development
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510-520-5217

From josh at agliodbs.com  Tue Sep 29 17:15:11 2009
From: josh at agliodbs.com (Josh Berkus)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 17:15:11 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] [sfpug] Cheap non-pizza Downtown?
In-Reply-To: <6ebbd8770909291634o39e8d38fs8de8cd98b03cffbc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4AC25E55.60005@agliodbs.com>
	<6ebbd8770909291634o39e8d38fs8de8cd98b03cffbc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4AC2A30F.8080005@agliodbs.com>

Quinn,

> In my days running SF Perl Mongers, I liked BKK Thai:  http://bit.ly/iIgSV

They appear to be out of business.

Has anyone used Tikka Masala?  They look like fairly cheap Pakistani,
and they deliver to downtown:
http://www.grubhub.com/sf/tikka-masala/

-- 
Josh Berkus
PostgreSQL Experts Inc.
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From biztos at mac.com  Tue Sep 29 18:59:37 2009
From: biztos at mac.com (frosty)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 2009 18:59:37 -0700
Subject: [sf-perl] [sfpug] Cheap non-pizza Downtown?
In-Reply-To: <4AC2A30F.8080005@agliodbs.com>
References: <4AC25E55.60005@agliodbs.com>
	<6ebbd8770909291634o39e8d38fs8de8cd98b03cffbc@mail.gmail.com>
	<4AC2A30F.8080005@agliodbs.com>
Message-ID: <26213910170103495333641514866427455842-Webmail@me.com>

For future reference, you might also consider Mehfil Indian.

http://mehfilindian.com/

That's the standard lunch stop "Curry in a Hurry" for my old SF office, and many other offices around 2nd/Folsom.  Not too expensive, not too bad, and they deliver.  

A little on the heavy side but they do have veg options.

No idea how prompt the delivery is, I've only ever done take-out or eat-in.

-- frosty 

 
On Tuesday, September 29, 2009, at 05:15PM, "Josh Berkus" <josh at agliodbs.com> wrote:
>Quinn,
>
>> In my days running SF Perl Mongers, I liked BKK Thai:  http://bit.ly/iIgSV
>
>They appear to be out of business.
>
>Has anyone used Tikka Masala?  They look like fairly cheap Pakistani,
>and they deliver to downtown:
>http://www.grubhub.com/sf/tikka-masala/
>
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On 9/29/09 6:59 PM, frosty wrote:
> For future reference, you might also consider Mehfil Indian.
> 
> http://mehfilindian.com/

Yeah, I looked at them, but they're a bit too expensive for a PUG.
They'd run about $15-$20/person.

BTW, reviews on Tikka-masala said "no" (late delivery, missing items),
but Little Delhi looks promising for cheap Tandoori delivery.  We'll try
them for the next SFPostgres and let you know.

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