From qw at sf.pm.org Wed May 3 14:37:28 2006 From: qw at sf.pm.org (Quinn Weaver) Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 14:37:28 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] O'Reilly discount update Message-ID: <20060503213728.GC63168@fu.funkspiel.org> Many people don't know this, so I'm sending a reminder... By virtue of being a Perl Mongers group, we all get a discount on O'Reilly products. The discount code is DSUG. You can use this to order books, but, more notably, it's also good for conference registration. In fact, you can use it in addition to the early bird discount for conferences, making a large difference in price. Also, as of today, O'Reilly has increased the discount for books. We now get 30% off order of a single book or 35% off orders of two or more books. (This applies if you order directly from the O'Reilly web site, not if you're ordering from a bookseller.) Share and enjoy. :) -- qw (Quinn Weaver); #President, San Francisco Perl Mongers =for information, visit http://sf.pm.org/weblog =cut From david at fetter.org Mon May 8 13:44:18 2006 From: david at fetter.org (David Fetter) Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 13:44:18 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] [TOMORROW] Elein Mustain Presents: Time Travel Message-ID: <20060508204418.GL15978@fetter.org> Folks, What: Time Travel Where: Casa Donde When: Tuesday, May 9 (Tomorrow!) 7:30pm Why: Time travel?!? Who can resist? How: RSVP ASAP for the Best Pizza in the Bay Area. More details: http://pugs.postgresql.org/sfpug/ Cheers, D -- David Fetter http://fetter.org/ phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666 Skype: davidfetter Remember to vote! From vlb at cfcl.com Tue May 9 11:14:32 2006 From: vlb at cfcl.com (Vicki Brown) Date: Tue, 9 May 2006 11:14:32 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Perl Comic Message-ID: http://comics.com/comics/workingdaze/archive/workingdaze-20060509.html -- - Vicki ZZZ zzZ San Francisco Bay Area, CA z |\ _,,,---,,_ Books, Cats, Tech zz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ http://cfcl.com/vlb |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' http://cfcl.com/vlb/weblog '---''(_/--' `-'\_) http://vlb.typepad.com/commentary/ From qw at sf.pm.org Sun May 14 20:45:23 2006 From: qw at sf.pm.org (Quinn Weaver) Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 20:45:23 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Meeting May 23: Microbrew and Perl SIG Message-ID: <20060515034523.GA69598@fu.funkspiel.org> As I mentioned at the last meeting, this month we'll have an informal munch rather than a presentation. We have a new venue: the San Francisco Brewing Company, a charming little microbrewery in the North Beach. They're fairly close to downtown. Despite being a bar, the venue is open to people under 21 until 9:30 p.m. (Around then we'll decamp for dessert.) Details (available, as always, at http://sf.pm.org/weblog/ ): RSVP: None required. Date: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 Time: 8:00 p.m. Place: San Francisco Brewing Company, 155 Columbus Ave., San Francisco, CA ( http://tinyurl.com/ou4bl ) Parking: Google suggests these garages: http://tinyurl.com/rmwub I can't vouch for any of them, as I've never used them. Since this is the North Beach, you probably do need to use a garage; street parking is scarce. From BART: Get off at the Embarcadero station. It's a pleasant walk uphill, should you enjoy walking: http://tinyurl.com/ro97n Otherwise go to the northwest corner of Market and Front, then catch the 2 Clement: http://tinyurl.com/lthxn From Caltrain: (Don't take Caltrain if you can avoid it. Trains run back at 10:00 p.m. and 11:59 p.m. only! Usually meetings run past 10:00.) From the station, take the N Judah to the Embarcadero station, then follow the directions from BART. -- qw (Quinn Weaver); #President, San Francisco Perl Mongers =for information, visit http://sf.pm.org/weblog =cut From bart at solozone.com Mon May 15 07:18:52 2006 From: bart at solozone.com (Bart Alberti) Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 07:18:52 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Meeting May 23: Microbrew and Perl SIG In-Reply-To: <20060515034523.GA69598@fu.funkspiel.org> References: <20060515034523.GA69598@fu.funkspiel.org> Message-ID: <44688DCC.8090706@solozone.com> Quinn Weaver wrote: > As I mentioned at the last meeting, this month we'll have an informal > munch rather than a presentation. We have a new venue: the San > Francisco Brewing Company, a charming little microbrewery in the North > Beach. They're fairly close to downtown. > > Despite being a bar, the venue is open to people under 21 until 9:30 > p.m. (Around then we'll decamp for dessert.) > > Details (available, as always, at http://sf.pm.org/weblog/ ): > > RSVP: None required. > Date: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 > Time: 8:00 p.m. > Place: San Francisco Brewing Company, 155 Columbus Ave., San > Francisco, CA ( http://tinyurl.com/ou4bl ) > > Parking: Google suggests these garages: http://tinyurl.com/rmwub > > I can't vouch for any of them, as I've never used them. Since this > is the North Beach, you > probably do need to use a garage; street parking is scarce. > > >From BART: Get off at the Embarcadero station. It's a pleasant walk > uphill, should you enjoy walking: http://tinyurl.com/ro97n > > Otherwise go to the northwest corner of Market and Front, then > catch the 2 Clement: http://tinyurl.com/lthxn > > >From Caltrain: (Don't take Caltrain if you can avoid it. Trains run > back at 10:00 p.m. and 11:59 p.m. only! Usually meetings run past > 10:00.) From the station, take the N Judah to the Embarcadero station, > then follow the directions from BART. > > -- > qw (Quinn Weaver); #President, San Francisco Perl Mongers > =for information, visit http://sf.pm.org/weblog =cut > _______________________________________________ > SanFrancisco-pm mailing list > SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm > > Next door to the Scientology center? I used to be a dinosaur in my spare time. Bart Alberti From bart at solozone.com Mon May 15 14:36:59 2006 From: bart at solozone.com (Bart Alberti) Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 14:36:59 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Meeting May 23: Microbrew and Perl SIG In-Reply-To: <44688DCC.8090706@solozone.com> References: <20060515034523.GA69598@fu.funkspiel.org> <44688DCC.8090706@solozone.com> Message-ID: <4468F47B.5020806@solozone.com> Bart Alberti wrote: >Quinn Weaver wrote: > > >>As I mentioned at the last meeting, this month we'll have an informal >>munch rather than a presentation. We have a new venue: the San >>Francisco Brewing Company, a charming little microbrewery in the North >>Beach. They're fairly close to downtown. >> >> >> >>Details (available, as always, at http://sf.pm.org/weblog/ ): >> >>RSVP: None required. >>Date: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 >>Time: 8:00 p.m. >>Place: San Francisco Brewing Company, 155 Columbus Ave., San >>Francisco, CA ( http://tinyurl.com/ou4bl ) >> >> >> >>>From BART: Get off at the Embarcadero station. It's a pleasant walk >>uphill, should you enjoy walking: http://tinyurl.com/ro97n >> >>Otherwise go to the northwest corner of Market and Front, then >>catch the 2 Clement: http://tinyurl.com/lthxn >> >> >> >>-- >>qw (Quinn Weaver); #President, San Francisco Perl Mongers >>=for information, visit http://sf.pm.org/weblog =cut >>_______________________________________________ >>SanFrancisco-pm mailing list >>SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org >>http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm >> >> >> >> > > > Your directions are not the best. 155 Columbus is above Sacramento just as Columbus elbows past the trans America building and the #2 Clement does NOT pass it anywhere. I recommend 1 if you get to the EMBARCADERO station get to the #1 California to Montgomery. It's one and a half blocks uphill then. 2. From the MONTGOMERY BART or MUNI, take the #15 on Kearney and Market to Columbus and walk backward on Columbus. 3. Just walk up from Market Street on Montgomery through the ''Wall Street of the West'' noticing the elbow at Sacramento Street where it becomes Columbus: HEALTHY! 4. alternative: from North Beach, walk down Columbus Street towards down town financial center Bart Alberti From vlb at cfcl.com Mon May 15 21:54:10 2006 From: vlb at cfcl.com (Vicki Brown) Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 21:54:10 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Meeting May 23: Microbrew and Perl SIG In-Reply-To: <4468F47B.5020806@solozone.com> References: <20060515034523.GA69598@fu.funkspiel.org> <44688DCC.8090706@solozone.com> <4468F47B.5020806@solozone.com> Message-ID: At 14:36 -0700 05/15/2006, Bart Alberti wrote: > and walk backward on Columbus. looking carefully over your shoulder as you go so as not to trip over anything. (Sorry. It was irresistible.) -- - Vicki ZZZ zzZ San Francisco Bay Area, CA z |\ _,,,---,,_ Books, Cats, Tech zz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;,_ http://cfcl.com/vlb |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' http://cfcl.com/vlb/weblog '---''(_/--' `-'\_) http://vlb.typepad.com/commentary/ From bart at solozone.com Tue May 16 07:29:46 2006 From: bart at solozone.com (Bart Alberti) Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 07:29:46 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] columbus avenue Message-ID: <4469E1DA.5040802@solozone.com> The forgotten approach: the California Street Cable car from its Embarcadero Terminal at the hotel at market street. Tell the nice conductor where you want to go. Bart From boss at topfunky.com Tue May 16 09:18:27 2006 From: boss at topfunky.com (Geoffrey Grosenbach) Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 09:18:27 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Free Ticket to Ruby on Rails Workshop Message-ID: <03BDA3D5-F43A-47B4-B6E1-B59B2A937A67@topfunky.com> I'm a longtime member of the Seattle Perl Users Group. I gave a talk there a few months ago on the Ruby on Rails framework and got a lot of positive feedback. I'm still looking forward to the release of Perl 6, but in the meantime I'm having a lot of fun programming in Ruby. I'm giving away a free ticket to a Ruby on Rails workshop I'm teaching in San Francisco next month ($495 value). Go here for the details: http://nubyonrails.com/ http://carsonworkshops.com/dev/rubyonrails/08JUN2006.html I hope to see you there! Geoffrey Grosenbach boss at topfunky.com From bart at solozone.com Thu May 18 11:57:45 2006 From: bart at solozone.com (Bart Alberti) Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 11:57:45 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] walking backwards Message-ID: <446CC3A9.7090107@solozone.com> I just this morning passed 155 Columbus on my way down town from North Beach. It is located EXACTLY opposite the #15 Kearny stop at the corner of Columbus and Kearny as it turns to go up Columbus, further. So you DON'T have to walk backwards at all. It is just south of City Lights Books. P S. (& O.T.) Black Hawk Books on Broadway has closed. Bart Alberti From rdm at cfcl.com Mon May 22 22:02:23 2006 From: rdm at cfcl.com (Rich Morin) Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 22:02:23 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Beer and Scripting SIG (BASS) - reminder Message-ID: The Beer & Scripting SIG (http://www.cfcl.com/rdm/bass) will take place Wednesday evening, 5/24. Be there or be elsewhere! Also note that the calendar of Bay Area Scripting Events is available and open to submissions (all your BASE are belong to us :-). * webcal://cfcl.com/pub_dav/BA_Scripting_Groups.ics * http://cfcl.com/pub_dav/BA_Scripting_Groups.ics and that the list of local scripting groups is online at SF Bay Area Scripting Groups http://www.cfcl.com/rdm/bass/groups.php -r -- http://www.cfcl.com/rdm Rich Morin http://www.cfcl.com/rdm/resume rdm at cfcl.com http://www.cfcl.com/rdm/weblog +1 650-873-7841 Technical editing and writing, programming, and web development From qw at sf.pm.org Tue May 23 11:57:23 2006 From: qw at sf.pm.org (Quinn Weaver) Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 11:57:23 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] Meeting May 23: Microbrew and Perl SIG Message-ID: <20060523185723.GC93818@fu.funkspiel.org> This is a reminder of the Perl Mongers meeting tonight. See earlier list postings from BART for alternate Muni directions. * * * As I mentioned at the last meeting, this month we'll have an informal munch rather than a presentation. We have a new venue: the San Francisco Brewing Company, a charming little microbrewery in the North Beach. They're fairly close to downtown. Despite being a bar, the venue is open to people under 21 until 9:30 p.m. (Around then we'll decamp for dessert.) Details (available, as always, at http://sf.pm.org/weblog/ ): RSVP: None required. Date: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 Time: 8:00 p.m. Place: San Francisco Brewing Company, 155 Columbus Ave., San Francisco, CA ( http://tinyurl.com/ou4bl ) Parking: Google suggests these garages: http://tinyurl.com/rmwub I can't vouch for any of them, as I've never used them. Since this is the North Beach, you probably do need to use a garage; street parking is scarce. From BART: Get off at the Embarcadero station. It's a pleasant walk uphill, should you enjoy walking: http://tinyurl.com/ro97n Otherwise go to the northwest corner of Market and Front, then catch the 2 Clement: http://tinyurl.com/lthxn From Caltrain: (Don't take Caltrain if you can avoid it. Trains run back at 10:00 p.m. and 11:59 p.m. only! Usually meetings run past 10:00.) From the station, take the N Judah to the Embarcadero station, then follow the directions from BART. -- qw (Quinn Weaver); #President, San Francisco Perl Mongers =for information, visit http://sf.pm.org/weblog =cut From rdm at cfcl.com Mon May 29 21:45:49 2006 From: rdm at cfcl.com (Rich Morin) Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 21:45:49 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] office chairs Message-ID: I'm thinking about buying a Real Office Chair (TM). Any (dis-)recommendations on models, dealers, etc? -r -- http://www.cfcl.com/rdm Rich Morin http://www.cfcl.com/rdm/resume rdm at cfcl.com http://www.cfcl.com/rdm/weblog +1 650-873-7841 Technical editing and writing, programming, and web development From qw at sf.pm.org Tue May 30 07:17:13 2006 From: qw at sf.pm.org (Quinn Weaver) Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 07:17:13 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] office chairs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060530141713.GB59923@fu.funkspiel.org> On Mon, May 29, 2006 at 09:45:49PM -0700, Rich Morin wrote: > I'm thinking about buying a Real Office Chair (TM). > Any (dis-)recommendations on models, dealers, etc? Everyone is different, but these are my recommendations: - Avoid chairs with arms. Invariably, they get in the way (or, worse, encourage really bad habits like resting your elbows on them). - If you are having ergonomic problems now, try to analyse the situation and isolate the causes before you buy a chair. (If you are having specific problems, I probably have a slew of recommendations.) - Think about the positions of your monitor and keyboard as well. If you optimize these first, you will know better what kind of chair to get. Unfortunately, this may entail getting a new desk as well. :/ That's it; I don't have any specific recommendations on brands. While we're on the topic, I am thinking of buying a new desk. I tend to switch back and forth between a desktop and a laptop for ergonomic reasons. I think my best bet is to get something that lets adjust monitor height instantly (and ideally keyboard height too), so what I really need a desk that consists of two planes, each of which can be moved up or down easily. Does anyone know of such a beast, offhand? Maybe I should just go to Office Depot? -- qw (Quinn Weaver); #President, San Francisco Perl Mongers =for information, visit http://sf.pm.org/weblog =cut From david.davis at gmail.com Mon May 29 22:23:21 2006 From: david.davis at gmail.com (David Davis) Date: Mon, 29 May 2006 22:23:21 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] office chairs In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <89f5393a0605292223g4e9a2e75k6375ebe5fb463e2a@mail.gmail.com> Aeron Chairs are the best IMHO. We have them at work. David On 5/29/06, Rich Morin wrote: > > I'm thinking about buying a Real Office Chair (TM). > Any (dis-)recommendations on models, dealers, etc? > > -r > -- > http://www.cfcl.com/rdm Rich Morin > http://www.cfcl.com/rdm/resume rdm at cfcl.com > http://www.cfcl.com/rdm/weblog +1 650-873-7841 > > Technical editing and writing, programming, and web development > _______________________________________________ > SanFrancisco-pm mailing list > SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/sanfrancisco-pm/attachments/20060529/2cb95ed2/attachment.html From masri at nolex.com Tue May 30 09:41:42 2006 From: masri at nolex.com (Adam Masri) Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 09:41:42 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] office chairs In-Reply-To: <89f5393a0605292223g4e9a2e75k6375ebe5fb463e2a@mail.gmail.com> References: <89f5393a0605292223g4e9a2e75k6375ebe5fb463e2a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <97F4B283-0E9D-4368-B7FC-CEC67A8F492E@nolex.com> On May 29, 2006, at 10:23 PM, David Davis wrote: > Aeron Chairs are the best IMHO. We have them at work. I like mine too. They're expensive, but they make you feel important. And they're comfortable. :) > While we're on the topic, I am thinking of buying a new desk. > I tend to switch back and forth between a desktop and a laptop > for ergonomic reasons. I think my best bet is to get something > that lets adjust monitor height instantly (and ideally keyboard > height too), so what I really need a desk that consists of two > planes, each of which can be moved up or down easily. > > Does anyone know of such a beast, offhand? Maybe I should just > go to Office Depot? Anthro has some cool stuff. I'm not sure about your specific request, but you could contact them. http://www.anthro.com/cpage.aspx?pid=88 Adam Masri masri at nolex.com President www.nolex.com Nolex From aldis at ratdog.com Tue May 30 09:52:14 2006 From: aldis at ratdog.com (aldis at ratdog.com) Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 09:52:14 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] office chairs Message-ID: <20060530095214.6ab06fc9edbf36a8434a160d6387e25f.f3a430d976.wbe@email.secureserver.net> i'm an aeron person too, and love it. however, check out http://www.slate.com/id/2131646/ for other opinions. a > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [sf-perl] office chairs > From: Adam Masri > Date: Tue, May 30, 2006 9:41 am > To: San Francisco Perl Mongers User Group > > On May 29, 2006, at 10:23 PM, David Davis wrote: > > > Aeron Chairs are the best IMHO. We have them at work. > > I like mine too. They're expensive, but they make you feel important. > And they're comfortable. :) > > > While we're on the topic, I am thinking of buying a new desk. > > I tend to switch back and forth between a desktop and a laptop > > for ergonomic reasons. I think my best bet is to get something > > that lets adjust monitor height instantly (and ideally keyboard > > height too), so what I really need a desk that consists of two > > planes, each of which can be moved up or down easily. > > > > Does anyone know of such a beast, offhand? Maybe I should just > > go to Office Depot? > > Anthro has some cool stuff. I'm not sure about your specific request, > but you could contact them. > > http://www.anthro.com/cpage.aspx?pid=88 > > Adam Masri masri at nolex.com > President www.nolex.com > Nolex > > _______________________________________________ > SanFrancisco-pm mailing list > SanFrancisco-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/sanfrancisco-pm From josh at agliodbs.com Tue May 30 10:03:04 2006 From: josh at agliodbs.com (Josh Berkus) Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 10:03:04 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] office chairs In-Reply-To: <89f5393a0605292223g4e9a2e75k6375ebe5fb463e2a@mail.gmail.com> References: <89f5393a0605292223g4e9a2e75k6375ebe5fb463e2a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <447C7AC8.50603@agliodbs.com> Rich, > Aeron Chairs are the best IMHO. We have them at work. FWIW, I personally don't like Aerons. But a lot of people do. And you can't buy the kind of office chair I have easily (1930's bookkeeper's chair). --Josh From rdm at cfcl.com Tue May 30 12:16:28 2006 From: rdm at cfcl.com (Rich Morin) Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 12:16:28 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] "Deconstructing databases with Jim Gray" Message-ID: The Register has an interview up: "Deconstructing databases with Jim Gray" http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2006/05/30/jim_gray/print.html -r -- http://www.cfcl.com/rdm Rich Morin http://www.cfcl.com/rdm/resume rdm at cfcl.com http://www.cfcl.com/rdm/weblog +1 650-873-7841 Technical editing and writing, programming, and web development From masri at nolex.com Tue May 30 12:22:37 2006 From: masri at nolex.com (Adam Masri) Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 12:22:37 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] office chairs In-Reply-To: <20060530095214.6ab06fc9edbf36a8434a160d6387e25f.f3a430d976.wbe@email.secureserver.net> References: <20060530095214.6ab06fc9edbf36a8434a160d6387e25f.f3a430d976.wbe@email.secureserver.net> Message-ID: On May 30, 2006, at 9:52 AM, aldis at ratdog.com wrote: > i'm an aeron person too, and love it. > > however, check out > > http://www.slate.com/id/2131646/ > > for other opinions. > > a One other thing, you should read Apple's ergonomics document to figure out the best way to sit for the kind of work we do (working on computers). Follow these rules & it's less likely you'll suffer a repetitive motion injury. http://www.apple.com/about/ergonomics/ Adam Masri masri at nolex.com President www.nolex.com Nolex From doom at kzsu.stanford.edu Tue May 30 13:10:28 2006 From: doom at kzsu.stanford.edu (Joseph Brenner) Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 13:10:28 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] "Deconstructing databases with Jim Gray" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <200605302010.k4UKAS362870@mail0.rawbw.com> Rich Morin wrote: > The Register has an interview up: > > "Deconstructing databases with Jim Gray" > http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2006/05/30/jim_gray/print.html Funny, slashdot has a story up right now about something directly related to one of the things he's talking about (a code library that does FFT using the graphics card to do the work): http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/05/29/1424213 Ah, but I guess that's the "North Carolina" group he's talking about in the interview. From parallax99 at hotmail.com Tue May 30 14:47:14 2006 From: parallax99 at hotmail.com (S A) Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 14:47:14 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] office chairs In-Reply-To: <20060530141713.GB59923@fu.funkspiel.org> Message-ID: I dunno about Office Despot, but (oddly) I'm a big fan of Ikea for this kind of thing. They have a lot of well thought out options, IMHO, and at least one of them is bound fit your needs. /S >From: Quinn Weaver >While we're on the topic, I am thinking of buying a new desk. >I tend to switch back and forth between a desktop and a laptop >for ergonomic reasons. I think my best bet is to get something >that lets adjust monitor height instantly (and ideally keyboard >height too), so what I really need a desk that consists of two >planes, each of which can be moved up or down easily. > >Does anyone know of such a beast, offhand? Maybe I should just >go to Office Depot? From david at fetter.org Wed May 31 11:59:31 2006 From: david at fetter.org (David Fetter) Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 11:59:31 -0700 Subject: [sf-perl] "Deconstructing databases with Jim Gray" In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20060531185931.GJ27220@fetter.org> On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 12:16:28PM -0700, Rich Morin wrote: > The Register has an interview up: > > "Deconstructing databases with Jim Gray" > http://www.regdeveloper.co.uk/2006/05/30/jim_gray/print.html Interestingly, he only touches on what Microsoft is doing in this arena. Cheers, D -- David Fetter http://fetter.org/ phone: +1 415 235 3778 AIM: dfetter666 Skype: davidfetter Remember to vote! From joshua.mcadams at gmail.com Wed May 31 21:11:05 2006 From: joshua.mcadams at gmail.com (Joshua McAdams) Date: Wed, 31 May 2006 23:11:05 -0500 Subject: [sf-perl] YAPC::NA Message-ID: <49d805d70605312111r364c211cg60d5aabd0e050efb@mail.gmail.com> Hi there fellow Perl Mongers. I'm writing to remind you all that YAPC::NA is only a few weeks away. The conference will be held in Chicago June 26th through 28th and will feature four simultaneous sessions of Perl talks for three days in addition to a job fair, banquet, and auction. After the conference Damian Conway, Randal Schwartz, and brian d foy will be sticking around and conducting professional training classes and extremely reduced prices. This email is a little spammy (sorry about that), but I just wanted to remind you all about the conference and also ask for your help in promoting it so that we can fill up the few spots that are remaining. For more information check out http://www.yapcchicago.org. We invite you to put up posters: http://yapcchicago.org/yapc_poster.pdf http://yapcchicago.org/yapc_poster_white.pdf Or maybe a web banner: http://www.yapcchicago.org/yapc_banner_wide.jpg http://www.yapcchicago.org/yapc_banner_narrow.jpg Thank you for your help in making YAPC a success once again, Josh McAdams