From rkleeman at energoncube.net Mon Mar 17 21:55:48 2014 From: rkleeman at energoncube.net (Bob Kleemann) Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 21:55:48 -0700 Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Meeting this week! Message-ID: Perl Mongers, Our monthly meeting is this Thursday, March 20th, starting around 7 PM. We're meeting at the Ansir Innovation Center, on Convoy St. Bring your questions, concerns, ideas, and thoughts, and we will discuss them. Following that, we'll delve into any detailed discussions, presentations, or other topics that warrant a fuller focus. Also, please remember this note from the fine folks at the Ansir Innovation Center: Please park on either Convoy Street, Engineer Road, or Brinell Street as we have a small parking lot that we share with other businesses. Avoid parking in other shopping centers as you may get towed. Look for the green door marked Suite 210. We'll look forward to seeing you all there. From rkleeman at energoncube.net Wed Mar 19 10:05:08 2014 From: rkleeman at energoncube.net (Bob Kleemann) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:05:08 -0700 Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Perl & MySQL Message-ID: Allen, There are several free databases you could use. If the SQL commands you've written aren't very MySQL specific, you could translate it to many other DBs without much difficulty. If you've got a lot of MySQL specific extensions to SQL in your commands, then it might be more difficult. I'd look at SQLite, and see if that supports your needs. If not, there are several others that could meet your needs, but it's hard to say without a better idea of what your applications needs. Also, I'm CC'ing the rest of the San Diego Perl Mongers list, as I'm sure many of them have some more experience moving from MySQL to other DBs. -- Bob On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 6:02 AM, wrote: > Bob, > > I use Perl & MySQL on my company provided laptop as sort of a day planner. > It's just something I developed while working on my BSIT. Recently the IT > Nazis at my company detected MySQL running on it, and demanded that I > remove it immediately, claiming it was a security threat. I've been using > this for over 10 years, and having my work history in a relational > database has been quite helpful in recalling what I did. Do you have any > suggestions on alternatives that won't require a massive rewrite of my > code? I have a lot of SQL commands in there, and I would like to leave > them alone if possible. > > Thanx, > > Allen Gilson > From mark.schoonover at gmail.com Wed Mar 19 10:46:54 2014 From: mark.schoonover at gmail.com (Mark Schoonover) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:46:54 -0700 Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Perl & MySQL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If you don't need your MySQL instance available to the outside world, just lock it down to localhost. IIRC, there should be instructions in my.cnf on how to pin mysqld to localhost:3306 (assuming default port is used). Mark Schoonover Website: http://www.ka6wke.net Resume: http://cv.ka6wke.net Stack Exchange eBooks: http://se2go.ka6wke.net On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Bob Kleemann wrote: > Allen, > > There are several free databases you could use. If the SQL commands > you've written aren't very MySQL specific, you could translate it to > many other DBs without much difficulty. If you've got a lot of MySQL > specific extensions to SQL in your commands, then it might be more > difficult. I'd look at SQLite, and see if that supports your needs. > If not, there are several others that could meet your needs, but it's > hard to say without a better idea of what your applications needs. > > Also, I'm CC'ing the rest of the San Diego Perl Mongers list, as I'm > sure many of them have some more experience moving from MySQL to other > DBs. > > -- Bob > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 6:02 AM, wrote: > > Bob, > > > > I use Perl & MySQL on my company provided laptop as sort of a day > planner. > > It's just something I developed while working on my BSIT. Recently the IT > > Nazis at my company detected MySQL running on it, and demanded that I > > remove it immediately, claiming it was a security threat. I've been using > > this for over 10 years, and having my work history in a relational > > database has been quite helpful in recalling what I did. Do you have any > > suggestions on alternatives that won't require a massive rewrite of my > > code? I have a lot of SQL commands in there, and I would like to leave > > them alone if possible. > > > > Thanx, > > > > Allen Gilson > > > _______________________________________________ > San-Diego-pm mailing list > San-Diego-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/san-diego-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From xrz1138 at gmail.com Wed Mar 19 10:50:58 2014 From: xrz1138 at gmail.com (Christopher Hahn) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:50:58 -0700 Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Perl & MySQL In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That would beat a network monitor. I am not sure what "my company detected MySQL running" means though, and it could be a company-required app that, along with whatever else it does, scans the system for installed softwares. That would require a switch to an allowed DB. ...but I love the suggestion, and hope that the company is enlightened. Chris On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Mark Schoonover wrote: > If you don't need your MySQL instance available to the outside world, just > lock it down to localhost. IIRC, there should be instructions in my.cnf on > how to pin mysqld to localhost:3306 (assuming default port is used). > > > Mark Schoonover > Website: http://www.ka6wke.net > Resume: http://cv.ka6wke.net > Stack Exchange eBooks: http://se2go.ka6wke.net > > > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Bob Kleemann wrote: > >> Allen, >> >> There are several free databases you could use. If the SQL commands >> you've written aren't very MySQL specific, you could translate it to >> many other DBs without much difficulty. If you've got a lot of MySQL >> specific extensions to SQL in your commands, then it might be more >> difficult. I'd look at SQLite, and see if that supports your needs. >> If not, there are several others that could meet your needs, but it's >> hard to say without a better idea of what your applications needs. >> >> Also, I'm CC'ing the rest of the San Diego Perl Mongers list, as I'm >> sure many of them have some more experience moving from MySQL to other >> DBs. >> >> -- Bob >> >> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 6:02 AM, wrote: >> > Bob, >> > >> > I use Perl & MySQL on my company provided laptop as sort of a day >> planner. >> > It's just something I developed while working on my BSIT. Recently the >> IT >> > Nazis at my company detected MySQL running on it, and demanded that I >> > remove it immediately, claiming it was a security threat. I've been >> using >> > this for over 10 years, and having my work history in a relational >> > database has been quite helpful in recalling what I did. Do you have any >> > suggestions on alternatives that won't require a massive rewrite of my >> > code? I have a lot of SQL commands in there, and I would like to leave >> > them alone if possible. >> > >> > Thanx, >> > >> > Allen Gilson >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> San-Diego-pm mailing list >> San-Diego-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/san-diego-pm >> > > > _______________________________________________ > San-Diego-pm mailing list > San-Diego-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/san-diego-pm > -- Realisant mon espoir, je me lance vers la gloire. Christopher Hahn == xrz1138 at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From merlyn at stonehenge.com Wed Mar 19 11:35:16 2014 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 11:35:16 -0700 Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Perl & MySQL In-Reply-To: (Bob Kleemann's message of "Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:05:08 -0700") References: Message-ID: <8638iekpej.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Bob" == Bob Kleemann writes: >> I use Perl & MySQL on my company provided laptop as sort of a day planner. >> It's just something I developed while working on my BSIT. Recently the IT >> Nazis at my company detected MySQL running on it, and demanded that I >> remove it immediately, claiming it was a security threat. Until we understand more about this claim, replacing a database with another database might not suffice. If the problem is one of corporate control, there may be no rationality involved, and in which case, no rational solution will overcome the impenetrable bureaucracy. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. Still trying to think of something clever for the fourth line of this .sig From kilna at kilna.com Wed Mar 19 12:08:36 2014 From: kilna at kilna.com (Kilna) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 12:08:36 -0700 Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Perl & MySQL In-Reply-To: <8638iekpej.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> References: <8638iekpej.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: I did not read who was writing the reply until the end of it. What I was thinking as I read it "Yup, not this guy's first rodeo!" Then I saw the author... suddenly my subconscious recalled the *State of Oregon vs. Randal Schwartz* from whatever dark corner it had shoved it into. I am glad you can vote and own firearms now, sir! On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > >>>>> "Bob" == Bob Kleemann writes: > > >> I use Perl & MySQL on my company provided laptop as sort of a day > planner. > >> It's just something I developed while working on my BSIT. Recently the > IT > >> Nazis at my company detected MySQL running on it, and demanded that I > >> remove it immediately, claiming it was a security threat. > > Until we understand more about this claim, replacing a database with > another database might not suffice. If the problem is one of corporate > control, there may be no rationality involved, and in which case, no > rational solution will overcome the impenetrable bureaucracy. > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 > 0095 > > Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > Still trying to think of something clever for the fourth line of this .sig > _______________________________________________ > San-Diego-pm mailing list > San-Diego-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/san-diego-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From merlyn at stonehenge.com Wed Mar 19 12:13:01 2014 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 12:13:01 -0700 Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Perl & MySQL In-Reply-To: (kilna@kilna.com's message of "Wed, 19 Mar 2014 12:08:36 -0700") References: <8638iekpej.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <86wqfqj936.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Kilna" == Kilna writes: Kilna> I did not read who was writing the reply until the end of it. Kilna> What I was thinking as I read it "Yup, not this guy's first Kilna> rodeo!" Then I saw the author... suddenly my subconscious Kilna> recalled the *State of Oregon vs. Randal Schwartz* from whatever Kilna> dark corner it had shoved it into. Kilna> I am glad you can vote and own firearms now, sir! First, voting was never off the table. Felons in only a few states lose voting rights (think of some formerly "confederate" states, and you'll understand why). Second... as tested recently, my *state level* expungment does not affect anything at the *federal* level, so many of my federal privileges have not returned. Gun ownership is one of those. But thanks for validating why I might be someone who knows about the things of this thread. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. Still trying to think of something clever for the fourth line of this .sig From rjs at jhu.edu Wed Mar 19 14:18:22 2014 From: rjs at jhu.edu (Reuben Settergren) Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 14:18:22 -0700 Subject: [San-Diego-pm] San-Diego-pm Digest, Vol 119, Issue 2 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I can't believe this hasn't been suggested yet! DBD::CSV should allow you to connect to a database implemented in .csv files and hopefully preserve all your existing queries. r On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 11:35 AM, wrote: > Send San-Diego-pm mailing list submissions to > san-diego-pm at pm.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/san-diego-pm > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > san-diego-pm-request at pm.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > san-diego-pm-owner at pm.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of San-Diego-pm digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Perl & MySQL (Bob Kleemann) > 2. Re: Perl & MySQL (Mark Schoonover) > 3. Re: Perl & MySQL (Christopher Hahn) > 4. Re: Perl & MySQL (Randal L. Schwartz) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:05:08 -0700 > From: Bob Kleemann > To: allengil at sdf.org > Cc: San Diego Perl Mongers > Subject: Re: [San-Diego-pm] Perl & MySQL > Message-ID: > < > CAO6cO5_ayM263Mufm_EYRHD8KS2vjcLx16On_-biOG0BsnBj6Q at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Allen, > > There are several free databases you could use. If the SQL commands > you've written aren't very MySQL specific, you could translate it to > many other DBs without much difficulty. If you've got a lot of MySQL > specific extensions to SQL in your commands, then it might be more > difficult. I'd look at SQLite, and see if that supports your needs. > If not, there are several others that could meet your needs, but it's > hard to say without a better idea of what your applications needs. > > Also, I'm CC'ing the rest of the San Diego Perl Mongers list, as I'm > sure many of them have some more experience moving from MySQL to other > DBs. > > -- Bob > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 6:02 AM, wrote: > > Bob, > > > > I use Perl & MySQL on my company provided laptop as sort of a day > planner. > > It's just something I developed while working on my BSIT. Recently the IT > > Nazis at my company detected MySQL running on it, and demanded that I > > remove it immediately, claiming it was a security threat. I've been using > > this for over 10 years, and having my work history in a relational > > database has been quite helpful in recalling what I did. Do you have any > > suggestions on alternatives that won't require a massive rewrite of my > > code? I have a lot of SQL commands in there, and I would like to leave > > them alone if possible. > > > > Thanx, > > > > Allen Gilson > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:46:54 -0700 > From: Mark Schoonover > To: Bob Kleemann > Cc: San Diego Perl Mongers , allengil at sdf.org > Subject: Re: [San-Diego-pm] Perl & MySQL > Message-ID: > dQ at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > If you don't need your MySQL instance available to the outside world, just > lock it down to localhost. IIRC, there should be instructions in my.cnf on > how to pin mysqld to localhost:3306 (assuming default port is used). > > > Mark Schoonover > Website: http://www.ka6wke.net > Resume: http://cv.ka6wke.net > Stack Exchange eBooks: http://se2go.ka6wke.net > > > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Bob Kleemann >wrote: > > > Allen, > > > > There are several free databases you could use. If the SQL commands > > you've written aren't very MySQL specific, you could translate it to > > many other DBs without much difficulty. If you've got a lot of MySQL > > specific extensions to SQL in your commands, then it might be more > > difficult. I'd look at SQLite, and see if that supports your needs. > > If not, there are several others that could meet your needs, but it's > > hard to say without a better idea of what your applications needs. > > > > Also, I'm CC'ing the rest of the San Diego Perl Mongers list, as I'm > > sure many of them have some more experience moving from MySQL to other > > DBs. > > > > -- Bob > > > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 6:02 AM, wrote: > > > Bob, > > > > > > I use Perl & MySQL on my company provided laptop as sort of a day > > planner. > > > It's just something I developed while working on my BSIT. Recently the > IT > > > Nazis at my company detected MySQL running on it, and demanded that I > > > remove it immediately, claiming it was a security threat. I've been > using > > > this for over 10 years, and having my work history in a relational > > > database has been quite helpful in recalling what I did. Do you have > any > > > suggestions on alternatives that won't require a massive rewrite of my > > > code? I have a lot of SQL commands in there, and I would like to leave > > > them alone if possible. > > > > > > Thanx, > > > > > > Allen Gilson > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > San-Diego-pm mailing list > > San-Diego-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/san-diego-pm > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/san-diego-pm/attachments/20140319/9afa587a/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 10:50:58 -0700 > From: Christopher Hahn > To: Mark Schoonover > Cc: allengil at sdf.org, San Diego Perl Mongers > Subject: Re: [San-Diego-pm] Perl & MySQL > Message-ID: > < > CAP9CNRzuYz71D7tRottwGFH_WiPKRGsAajbTC+q63n6K8++5yw at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > That would beat a network monitor. > > I am not sure what "my company detected MySQL running" means > though, and it could be a company-required app that, along with whatever > else it does, scans the system for installed softwares. > > That would require a switch to an allowed DB. > > ...but I love the suggestion, and hope that the company is enlightened. > > Chris > > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Mark Schoonover < > mark.schoonover at gmail.com > > wrote: > > > If you don't need your MySQL instance available to the outside world, > just > > lock it down to localhost. IIRC, there should be instructions in my.cnf > on > > how to pin mysqld to localhost:3306 (assuming default port is used). > > > > > > Mark Schoonover > > Website: http://www.ka6wke.net > > Resume: http://cv.ka6wke.net > > Stack Exchange eBooks: http://se2go.ka6wke.net > > > > > > > > On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Bob Kleemann >wrote: > > > >> Allen, > >> > >> There are several free databases you could use. If the SQL commands > >> you've written aren't very MySQL specific, you could translate it to > >> many other DBs without much difficulty. If you've got a lot of MySQL > >> specific extensions to SQL in your commands, then it might be more > >> difficult. I'd look at SQLite, and see if that supports your needs. > >> If not, there are several others that could meet your needs, but it's > >> hard to say without a better idea of what your applications needs. > >> > >> Also, I'm CC'ing the rest of the San Diego Perl Mongers list, as I'm > >> sure many of them have some more experience moving from MySQL to other > >> DBs. > >> > >> -- Bob > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 6:02 AM, wrote: > >> > Bob, > >> > > >> > I use Perl & MySQL on my company provided laptop as sort of a day > >> planner. > >> > It's just something I developed while working on my BSIT. Recently the > >> IT > >> > Nazis at my company detected MySQL running on it, and demanded that I > >> > remove it immediately, claiming it was a security threat. I've been > >> using > >> > this for over 10 years, and having my work history in a relational > >> > database has been quite helpful in recalling what I did. Do you have > any > >> > suggestions on alternatives that won't require a massive rewrite of my > >> > code? I have a lot of SQL commands in there, and I would like to leave > >> > them alone if possible. > >> > > >> > Thanx, > >> > > >> > Allen Gilson > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> San-Diego-pm mailing list > >> San-Diego-pm at pm.org > >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/san-diego-pm > >> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > San-Diego-pm mailing list > > San-Diego-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/san-diego-pm > > > > > > -- > Realisant mon espoir, je me lance vers la gloire. > Christopher Hahn == xrz1138 at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/san-diego-pm/attachments/20140319/7a9bcc2b/attachment-0001.html > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2014 11:35:16 -0700 > From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) > To: Bob Kleemann > Cc: San Diego Perl Mongers , allengil at sdf.org > Subject: Re: [San-Diego-pm] Perl & MySQL > Message-ID: <8638iekpej.fsf at red.stonehenge.com> > Content-Type: text/plain > > >>>>> "Bob" == Bob Kleemann writes: > > >> I use Perl & MySQL on my company provided laptop as sort of a day > planner. > >> It's just something I developed while working on my BSIT. Recently the > IT > >> Nazis at my company detected MySQL running on it, and demanded that I > >> remove it immediately, claiming it was a security threat. > > Until we understand more about this claim, replacing a database with > another database might not suffice. If the problem is one of corporate > control, there may be no rationality involved, and in which case, no > rational solution will overcome the impenetrable bureaucracy. > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 > 0095 > > Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > Still trying to think of something clever for the fourth line of this .sig > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > San-Diego-pm mailing list > San-Diego-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/san-diego-pm > > ------------------------------ > > End of San-Diego-pm Digest, Vol 119, Issue 2 > ******************************************** > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: