From bbeyenhof at augmentedfourth.com  Sat Sep  1 08:04:34 2012
From: bbeyenhof at augmentedfourth.com (Brad Beyenhof)
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2012 08:04:34 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Need some general advice (non-perl)
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Hi Richard,

If you're going to use a Debian-based distro (as Ubuntu is), it's
probably best to install anything you need via the distribution's
package repository. Many of the CPAN modules have been packaged this
way.

By the way, for this and other Linux administration-related questions,
I recommend getting in touch with the Kernel-Panic Linux Users' Group:
<http://www.kernel-panic.org/>, with mailing lists at
<http://www.kernel-panic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/kplug-list> and
an IRC channel at #kernel-panic on Freenode.

-Brad


On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 11:16 AM, Richard Bychowski <wrinkles at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have very limited system administration background, having "managed" shared hosting for a number of my website clients, and having managed my own linux box in my office.  I have recently taken a position as a technical support coordinator for a K-12 private school. The network has around 150-200 networked devices and a SonicWall security appliance.
>
> So here's the question. I just purchased a Ubuntu server from system76.com. I will be installing Request Tracker, Nagios, enkive, etc. These can be installed from source, from Ubuntu repository, or sometimes from CPAN. What factors should I consider in choosing an install method?
>
> What other tools (or books even) do you suggest for tracking and managing a network of this size?
>
> I realize that is a pretty general question, but I am just looking for whatever words of wisdom I can get before launching my new career. Any or all advice/comments/warnings are welcome.
>
> TIA,
>
> Rick Bychowski
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From elspicyjack at gmail.com  Sun Sep  2 10:36:28 2012
From: elspicyjack at gmail.com (Brian Manning)
Date: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 21:36:28 +0400
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Need some general advice (non-perl)
In-Reply-To: <3FB0E19D-51CF-4988-9F58-6E0E3455A461@gmail.com>
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On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 10:16 PM, Richard Bychowski <wrinkles at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have very limited system administration background, having "managed" shared hosting for a number of my website clients, and having managed my own linux box in my office.  I have recently taken a position as a technical support coordinator for a K-12 private school. The network has around 150-200 networked devices and a SonicWall security appliance.
>
> So here's the question. I just purchased a Ubuntu server from system76.com. I will be installing Request Tracker, Nagios, enkive, etc. These can be installed from source, from Ubuntu repository, or sometimes from CPAN. What factors should I consider in choosing an install method?

As Brad has already mentioned, using the distro versions of these
packages is probably the path of least pain.  Installing them yourself
is more work, but will give you visibility into the inner workings of
the system, so upgrades could be easier at a later date.  You need to
decide what you would rather have, pain now (installing from source)
or pain later (upgrading the system).  There's also a middle ground of
building your own Perl .deb packages using system tools, there's a
tool called dh-make-perl that will do this for you.  I use this
frequently for building packages of Perl modules that my distro has
not packaged for me.

> What other tools (or books even) do you suggest for tracking and managing a network of this size?

It used to be Running Linux (O'Reilly) would be the general
recommendation.  I would say the basics of system administration could
still be had from that book, augmented with

1) Ubuntu's community support wiki
2) Whatever mailing lists your local Linux User's Group hang out on
3) Knowledge of how to ask your questions on Google, then filtering
the answers to get the information you need.

Tech books go out of date very quickly, so I think it's hard now to
recommend them because of this.

Thanks,

Brian

From rkleeman at energoncube.net  Mon Sep 17 15:37:38 2012
From: rkleeman at energoncube.net (Bob Kleemann)
Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2012 15:37:38 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Meeting this Thursday
Message-ID: <CAO6cO5_O99LeCr3V=n78isj3_JAMWQAaeY1fHzqizZ8N7zgaXQ@mail.gmail.com>

Perl Mongers,

This is just a quick reminder about the monthly meeting that is
occurring this week.  We'll be meeting at the Websense offices, near
I-805 and Sorrento Valley Road.  We'll start around 7 PM, and talk
about our normal topics of interest, then we'll move on to
presentations.  I plan to have a presentation, and if anybody else has
something to present, please let either myself or the group know.

I look forward to seeing all who are planning to be there.

From rkleeman at energoncube.net  Wed Sep 19 15:18:18 2012
From: rkleeman at energoncube.net (Bob Kleemann)
Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2012 15:18:18 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Fwd: Position available
Message-ID: <CAO6cO5_fjmVeFdgat=ANmRAAGO-=uuop7DAsdmusPg1ZJKd1Ag@mail.gmail.com>

Perl Mongers,

If you are interested in this position, please contact Christine
directly for more information.


---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Christine Schneider <cschneider at tristaff.com>

Hi Bob

[...]

I do have a position currently that may be of interest as it is using
some cutting edge technologies with a company that provides cloud
based services to small and medium sized businesses. Our client is
based in San Diego and due to continued growth an opportunity has
arisen for a Sr Software Engineer to join the team in a permanent
position. The role is within the team developing the REST API product.
This would be an opportunity to work with the following technologies:
LAMP, NoSQL and MongoDB, MQ/ZeroMQ, REST, VOIP (SIP, RTP). This is a
key role in designing and implementing solutions, providing technical
leadership in all phases of the development lifecycle.  Candidates
must have hands-on experience with large scale Web and REST
architectures, distributed computing architectures, Unix/Linux
system/network development. 90% of the development will be in Perl so
I wondered if a member of "Perl Mongers" would be interested and a
good match!

Thanks Bob really appreciate you responding to my email and would love
to hear from anyone potentially interested.


Have a lovely afternoon.

All my best
Christine

Christine Schneider
Technical Recruiter
TriStaff Consulting | San Diego, CA 92122
W: (858) 453-1331 Ext 128; C: (760) 529 2432
cschneider at tristaff.com
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From rkleeman at energoncube.net  Thu Sep 20 10:56:40 2012
From: rkleeman at energoncube.net (Bob Kleemann)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 10:56:40 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Perl Meeting tonight
Message-ID: <CAO6cO597nGj50w+hs2ya3cEdeH637GMrmnmNZRM33NHabfHJ5w@mail.gmail.com>

Perl Mongers,

Tonight is the monthly meeting.  7 PM at the Websense offices, near
I-805 and Mira Mesa Blvd.  We'll be discussing ideas, questions, and
anything people would like to talk about.  And if I'm really good and
I get it finished, I'll be doing a presentation tonight as well.  So
please come and enjoy the food and drinks that G?dTech is providing
tonight, the discussions we'll be generating, and the knowledge that
will be disseminated tonight.

I look forward to seeing you all tonight!

From rotsen at gmail.com  Thu Sep 20 19:15:17 2012
From: rotsen at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?B?TulzdG9y?=)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2012 19:15:17 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Meeting this Thursday
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References: <CAO6cO5_O99LeCr3V=n78isj3_JAMWQAaeY1fHzqizZ8N7zgaXQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAON-vCNE8NjPVyYLj0cagYMm7tVqJ6vX5V_CgtOkkv+13qqpPA@mail.gmail.com>

I'm at bottom floor can some one come and get me

On Sep 17, 2012 3:37 PM, "Bob Kleemann" <rkleeman at energoncube.net> wrote:

Perl Mongers,

This is just a quick reminder about the monthly meeting that is
occurring this week.  We'll be meeting at the Websense offices, near
I-805 and Sorrento Valley Road.  We'll start around 7 PM, and talk
about our normal topics of interest, then we'll move on to
presentations.  I plan to have a presentation, and if anybody else has
something to present, please let either myself or the group know.

I look forward to seeing all who are planning to be there.
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