From joel at fentin.com  Wed Oct  6 05:45:57 2010
From: joel at fentin.com (Joel Fentin)
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2010 05:45:57 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Running PHP slide show from Perl
Message-ID: <4CAC6F85.7010701@fentin.com>

I have been attempting to test/run a slideshow program. The 
program must be run from a Perl program.

+ First note that plant1.php works. See it here:
http://calscape.com/Raja99/plant1.php

+ I wrote a Perl script to run plant1.php. You can run it at:
http://www.calscape.com/cgi-bin/Admin/Raja99A.pl.
It doesn't work. Note the error message.

+ The operative code lines:
print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
chdir '../../Raja99/';
system('./plant1.php');


I hope sombody knows what is happening and can help.
Thank you.

-- 
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Biz Website:      http://fentin.com
Personal Website: http://fentin.com/me

From xrz1138 at gmail.com  Wed Oct  6 07:21:55 2010
From: xrz1138 at gmail.com (Christopher Hahn)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 07:21:55 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Running PHP slide show from Perl
In-Reply-To: <4CAC6F85.7010701@fentin.com>
References: <4CAC6F85.7010701@fentin.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=VtjdjQLPct8QRKqreuBiHF4_R9-mzUZcfJhz4@mail.gmail.com>

Hey,

Just a quick one, but when I see:

"No such file or directory ./plant1.php"

I wonder if the problem is the cwd when running is not where this lives.

Perhaps you can fuly qualify the reference to plant1.php?

Good luck,

Chris

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 5:45 AM, Joel Fentin <joel at fentin.com> wrote:

> I have been attempting to test/run a slideshow program. The program must be
> run from a Perl program.
>
> + First note that plant1.php works. See it here:
> http://calscape.com/Raja99/plant1.php
>
> + I wrote a Perl script to run plant1.php. You can run it at:
> http://www.calscape.com/cgi-bin/Admin/Raja99A.pl.
> It doesn't work. Note the error message.
>
> + The operative code lines:
> print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
> chdir '../../Raja99/';
> system('./plant1.php');
>
>
> I hope sombody knows what is happening and can help.
> Thank you.
>
> --
> Joel Fentin       tel: 760-749-8863
> Biz Website:      http://fentin.com
> Personal Website: http://fentin.com/me
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From pm at bionikchickens.com  Wed Oct  6 10:17:53 2010
From: pm at bionikchickens.com (Nicholas Wehr)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 10:17:53 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Running PHP slide show from Perl
In-Reply-To: <4CAC6F85.7010701@fentin.com>
References: <4CAC6F85.7010701@fentin.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=RskXeMOYWwmVwKTKBSXig3PZ_6s7ej4iYMnbn@mail.gmail.com>

any time I need to change directories for whatever reason - I've found that
it's best practice to:

use strict;
use File::Basename;
use File::Spec::Functions;
use FindBin;

also, keep in mind - you didn't check the return value from your chdir. I
think you'd be better off with absolute paths if you could swing it. you
also should assume your environment is blanked out, so your cgi will not
have the environment that apache does, per se. with your system call, use
absolute paths for the php program as well. AND make sure you can run php
from the shell. eg. system(/usr/bin/php /path/to/file/plant1.php')

good luck
-nw

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 5:45 AM, Joel Fentin <joel at fentin.com> wrote:

> I have been attempting to test/run a slideshow program. The program must be
> run from a Perl program.
>
> + First note that plant1.php works. See it here:
> http://calscape.com/Raja99/plant1.php
>
> + I wrote a Perl script to run plant1.php. You can run it at:
> http://www.calscape.com/cgi-bin/Admin/Raja99A.pl.
> It doesn't work. Note the error message.
>
> + The operative code lines:
> print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
> chdir '../../Raja99/';
> system('./plant1.php');
>
>
> I hope sombody knows what is happening and can help.
> Thank you.
>
> --
> Joel Fentin       tel: 760-749-8863
> Biz Website:      http://fentin.com
> Personal Website: http://fentin.com/me
> _______________________________________________
> San-Diego-pm mailing list
> San-Diego-pm at pm.org
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From joel at fentin.com  Wed Oct  6 10:29:26 2010
From: joel at fentin.com (Joel Fentin)
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2010 10:29:26 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Running PHP slide show from Perl
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=VtjdjQLPct8QRKqreuBiHF4_R9-mzUZcfJhz4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4CAC6F85.7010701@fentin.com>
	<AANLkTi=VtjdjQLPct8QRKqreuBiHF4_R9-mzUZcfJhz4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4CACB1F6.9030909@fentin.com>

Thank you for getting back to me.

On 10/6/2010 7:21 AM, Christopher Hahn wrote:
> Hey,
>
> Just a quick one, but when I see:
>
> "No such file or directory ./plant1.php"

I think that refers to the question mark in line one of 
plant1.php. There is also an error mentioned for line three. The 
.php program itself has been located and something is attempting 
to deal with it.

I believe you can run commands like dir and xx.exe via system(). 
But can you run xxx.php? If not, how is it done?

An experiment: system('dir');
This shows me the working directory is correct.

> I wonder if the problem is the cwd when running is not where this
> lives.

I don't understand.

> Perhaps you can fuly qualify the reference to plant1.php?

If by fully qualify, you mean:
system('http://calscape.com/Raja99/plant1.php');
system('/Raja99/plant1.php');
system('/home6/calscape/Raja99/plant1.php');

These are worse. The error is in Perl saying it can't find the file.

> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 5:45 AM, Joel Fentin <joel at fentin.com
> <mailto:joel at fentin.com>> wrote:
>
>     I have been attempting to test/run a slideshow program. The
>     program must be run from a Perl program.
>
>     + First note that plant1.php works. See it here:
>     http://calscape.com/Raja99/plant1.php
>
>     + I wrote a Perl script to run plant1.php. You can run it at:
>     http://www.calscape.com/cgi-bin/Admin/Raja99A.pl.
>     It doesn't work. Note the error message.
>
>     + The operative code lines:
>     print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
>     chdir '../../Raja99/';
>     system('./plant1.php');
>
>
>     I hope sombody knows what is happening and can help.
>     Thank you.
>
>     --
>     Joel Fentin       tel: 760-749-8863
>     Biz Website: http://fentin.com
>     Personal Website: http://fentin.com/me
>     _______________________________________________
>     San-Diego-pm mailing list
>     San-Diego-pm at pm.org <mailto:San-Diego-pm at pm.org>
>     http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/san-diego-pm
>
>
>
>
> --
> Realisant mon espoir, je me lance vers la gloire.
> Christopher Hahn == xrz1138 at gmail.com <mailto:xrz1138 at gmail.com>


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Biz Website:      http://fentin.com
Personal Website: http://fentin.com/me

From joel at fentin.com  Wed Oct  6 10:35:15 2010
From: joel at fentin.com (Joel Fentin)
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2010 10:35:15 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Running PHP slide show from Perl
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=RskXeMOYWwmVwKTKBSXig3PZ_6s7ej4iYMnbn@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4CAC6F85.7010701@fentin.com>
	<AANLkTi=RskXeMOYWwmVwKTKBSXig3PZ_6s7ej4iYMnbn@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4CACB353.10103@fentin.com>

On 10/6/2010 10:17 AM, Nicholas Wehr wrote:
 > any time I need to change directories for whatever reason - I've
 > found that it's best practice to:
 >
 > use strict;
 > use File::Basename;
 > use File::Spec::Functions;
 > use FindBin;
 >
 > also, keep in mind - you didn't check the return value from your
 > chdir. I think you'd be better off with absolute paths if you
 > could swing it. you also should assume your environment is blanked
 > out, so your cgi will not have the environment that apache does,
 > per se. with your system call, use absolute paths for the php
 > program as well. AND make sure you can run php from the shell. eg.
 > system(/usr/bin/php /path/to/file/plant1.php')
 >

Thank you.

Does the above assume the program was not found?

The error messages (two) both refer to code inside plant1.php.

A more fundamental question: Can you run php from system()?

 >
 > On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 5:45 AM, Joel Fentin <joel at fentin.com
 > <mailto:joel at fentin.com>> wrote:
 >
 >     I have been attempting to test/run a slideshow program. The
 >     program must be run from a Perl program.
 >
 >     + First note that plant1.php works. See it here:
 >     http://calscape.com/Raja99/plant1.php
 >
 >     + I wrote a Perl script to run plant1.php. You can run it at:
 >     http://www.calscape.com/cgi-bin/Admin/Raja99A.pl.
 >     It doesn't work. Note the error message.
 >
 >     + The operative code lines:
 >     print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
 >     chdir '../../Raja99/';
 >     system('./plant1.php');
 >
 >
 >     I hope sombody knows what is happening and can help.
 >     Thank you.
 >
 >     --
 >     Joel Fentin       tel: 760-749-8863
 >     Biz Website: http://fentin.com
 >     Personal Website: http://fentin.com/me
 >     _______________________________________________
 >     San-Diego-pm mailing list
 >     San-Diego-pm at pm.org <mailto:San-Diego-pm at pm.org>
 >     http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/san-diego-pm
 >
 >


-- 
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Biz Website:      http://fentin.com
Personal Website: http://fentin.com/me

From pm at bionikchickens.com  Wed Oct  6 10:46:38 2010
From: pm at bionikchickens.com (Nicholas Wehr)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 10:46:38 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Running PHP slide show from Perl
In-Reply-To: <4CACB353.10103@fentin.com>
References: <4CAC6F85.7010701@fentin.com>
	<AANLkTi=RskXeMOYWwmVwKTKBSXig3PZ_6s7ej4iYMnbn@mail.gmail.com>
	<4CACB353.10103@fentin.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikan=9GBaDUMOJG5+aJAgOHc71VMuu7ufo6qKJX@mail.gmail.com>

I'm thinking php doesn't run on the command line by default - what's your
platform?

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Joel Fentin <joel at fentin.com> wrote:

> On 10/6/2010 10:17 AM, Nicholas Wehr wrote:
> > any time I need to change directories for whatever reason - I've
> > found that it's best practice to:
> >
> > use strict;
> > use File::Basename;
> > use File::Spec::Functions;
> > use FindBin;
> >
> > also, keep in mind - you didn't check the return value from your
> > chdir. I think you'd be better off with absolute paths if you
> > could swing it. you also should assume your environment is blanked
> > out, so your cgi will not have the environment that apache does,
> > per se. with your system call, use absolute paths for the php
> > program as well. AND make sure you can run php from the shell. eg.
> > system(/usr/bin/php /path/to/file/plant1.php')
> >
>
> Thank you.
>
> Does the above assume the program was not found?
>
> The error messages (two) both refer to code inside plant1.php.
>
> A more fundamental question: Can you run php from system()?
>
>
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 5:45 AM, Joel Fentin <joel at fentin.com
> > <mailto:joel at fentin.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     I have been attempting to test/run a slideshow program. The
> >     program must be run from a Perl program.
> >
> >     + First note that plant1.php works. See it here:
> >     http://calscape.com/Raja99/plant1.php
> >
> >     + I wrote a Perl script to run plant1.php. You can run it at:
> >     http://www.calscape.com/cgi-bin/Admin/Raja99A.pl.
> >     It doesn't work. Note the error message.
> >
> >     + The operative code lines:
> >     print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
> >     chdir '../../Raja99/';
> >     system('./plant1.php');
> >
> >
> >     I hope sombody knows what is happening and can help.
> >     Thank you.
> >
> >     --
> >     Joel Fentin       tel: 760-749-8863
> >     Biz Website: http://fentin.com
> >     Personal Website: http://fentin.com/me
> >     _______________________________________________
> >     San-Diego-pm mailing list
> >     San-Diego-pm at pm.org <mailto:San-Diego-pm at pm.org>
>
> >     http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/san-diego-pm
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Joel Fentin       tel: 760-749-8863
> Biz Website:      http://fentin.com
> Personal Website: http://fentin.com/me
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From joel at fentin.com  Wed Oct  6 11:14:08 2010
From: joel at fentin.com (Joel Fentin)
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2010 11:14:08 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Running PHP slide show from Perl
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikan=9GBaDUMOJG5+aJAgOHc71VMuu7ufo6qKJX@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4CAC6F85.7010701@fentin.com>
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Message-ID: <4CACBC70.1060704@fentin.com>

On 10/6/2010 10:46 AM, Nicholas Wehr wrote:
> I'm thinking php doesn't run on the command line by default -
> what's your platform?

I don't know. My client is hosted by Blue Host 
(http://www.bluehost.com/) and is probably on a shared server.

> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 10:35 AM, Joel Fentin <joel at fentin.com
> <mailto:joel at fentin.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 10/6/2010 10:17 AM, Nicholas Wehr wrote:
>      > any time I need to change directories for whatever reason -
>     I've
>      > found that it's best practice to:
>      >
>      > use strict;
>      > use File::Basename;
>      > use File::Spec::Functions;
>      > use FindBin;
>      >
>      > also, keep in mind - you didn't check the return value from
>     your
>      > chdir. I think you'd be better off with absolute paths if you
>      > could swing it. you also should assume your environment is
>     blanked
>      > out, so your cgi will not have the environment that apache
>     does,
>      > per se. with your system call, use absolute paths for the php
>      > program as well. AND make sure you can run php from the
>     shell. eg.
>      > system(/usr/bin/php /path/to/file/plant1.php')
>      >
>
>     Thank you.
>
>     Does the above assume the program was not found?
>
>     The error messages (two) both refer to code inside plant1.php.
>
>     A more fundamental question: Can you run php from system()?
>
>
>      >
>      > On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 5:45 AM, Joel Fentin
>     <joel at fentin.com <mailto:joel at fentin.com>
>      > <mailto:joel at fentin.com <mailto:joel at fentin.com>>> wrote:
>      >
>      >     I have been attempting to test/run a slideshow program. The
>      >     program must be run from a Perl program.
>      >
>      >     + First note that plant1.php works. See it here:
>      > http://calscape.com/Raja99/plant1.php
>      >
>      >     + I wrote a Perl script to run plant1.php. You can run
>     it at:
>      > http://www.calscape.com/cgi-bin/Admin/Raja99A.pl.
>      >     It doesn't work. Note the error message.
>      >
>      >     + The operative code lines:
>      >     print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
>      >     chdir '../../Raja99/';
>      >     system('./plant1.php');
>      >
>      >
>      >     I hope sombody knows what is happening and can help.
>      >     Thank you.
>      >
>      >     --
>      >     Joel Fentin       tel: 760-749-8863
>      >     Biz Website: http://fentin.com
>      >     Personal Website: http://fentin.com/me
>      >     _______________________________________________
>      >     San-Diego-pm mailing list
>      > San-Diego-pm at pm.org <mailto:San-Diego-pm at pm.org>
>     <mailto:San-Diego-pm at pm.org <mailto:San-Diego-pm at pm.org>>
>
>      > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/san-diego-pm
>      >
>      >
>
>
>     --
>     Joel Fentin       tel: 760-749-8863
>     Biz Website: http://fentin.com
>     Personal Website: http://fentin.com/me
>
>


-- 
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Biz Website:      http://fentin.com
Personal Website: http://fentin.com/me

From joel at fentin.com  Wed Oct  6 11:59:51 2010
From: joel at fentin.com (Joel Fentin)
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2010 11:59:51 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Running PHP slide show from Perl
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On 10/6/2010 11:26 AM, Nicholas Wehr wrote:
> hm, well I see how this can be challenging.
>
> is your goal to download a webpage and redisplay it with perl? or
> do you just want the php web content?
>
> if so, I recommend WWW::Mechanize

As brief as I can make it.

+ go to http://calscape.com/

+ click the "Trees" dynamic link. You should see a list of trees.

+ click the thumbnail or common name of the first tree. A page is 
displayed specific to that tree. Note the slide show.

+ Click the 'Next Plant' link (near upper right corner). Another 
plant page is displayed. Note the slide show.

+ Click the browser back button. the prior plant data is displayed 
but not the prior slide show.

===============

+ I put that slide show into that page with an iframe.

+ I create the show on the fly per the specific plant we are 
looking at.

+ The slide show is an older version (also php) soon to be 
replaced by plant1.php or something very like it.

+ I was experimenting with system() as a means to solve the back 
button problem.

===============

Is anybody still awake?

-- 
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Biz Website:      http://fentin.com
Personal Website: http://fentin.com/me

From rkleeman at energoncube.net  Wed Oct  6 12:33:37 2010
From: rkleeman at energoncube.net (Bob Kleemann)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 12:33:37 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] San Diego Perl Mongers Present Damian Conway
Message-ID: <AANLkTikCqth+kUOAS0AjhvJH9kbLhJEJyrbKip=aKzRw@mail.gmail.com>

The San Diego Perl Mongers present Damian Conway.  One night only,
Monday, October 11, 7 PM at the offices of Knobbe Martens,
12790 El Camino Real, San Diego, CA 92130.

Come and enjoy Damian Conway, Perl luminary and all around great guy,
as he presents his seminar "The Missing Link"
<http://damian.conway.org/Seminars/MissingLink.html>.  The topic will
be focused on Perl, but should be entertaining to all programmers.

If there are any questions or other concerns, please contact me via my
Gmail address, rkleemann.

From pm at bionikchickens.com  Wed Oct  6 17:15:56 2010
From: pm at bionikchickens.com (Nicholas Wehr)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 17:15:56 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Running PHP slide show from Perl
In-Reply-To: <4CACC727.8060102@fentin.com>
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Joel, without knowing more about the details of your system - I would say
that your solution strategy seems to be introducing a lot of complexity and
indirection. If there is a problem with the php/javascript application, I
think your time is best spent solving it within that environment.
Alternately, php developers are plentiful for contract...

-nw

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Joel Fentin <joel at fentin.com> wrote:

> On 10/6/2010 11:26 AM, Nicholas Wehr wrote:
>
>> hm, well I see how this can be challenging.
>>
>> is your goal to download a webpage and redisplay it with perl? or
>> do you just want the php web content?
>>
>> if so, I recommend WWW::Mechanize
>>
>
> As brief as I can make it.
>
> + go to http://calscape.com/
>
> + click the "Trees" dynamic link. You should see a list of trees.
>
> + click the thumbnail or common name of the first tree. A page is displayed
> specific to that tree. Note the slide show.
>
> + Click the 'Next Plant' link (near upper right corner). Another plant page
> is displayed. Note the slide show.
>
> + Click the browser back button. the prior plant data is displayed but not
> the prior slide show.
>
> ===============
>
> + I put that slide show into that page with an iframe.
>
> + I create the show on the fly per the specific plant we are looking at.
>
> + The slide show is an older version (also php) soon to be replaced by
> plant1.php or something very like it.
>
> + I was experimenting with system() as a means to solve the back button
> problem.
>
> ===============
>
> Is anybody still awake?
>
> --
> Joel Fentin       tel: 760-749-8863
> Biz Website:      http://fentin.com
> Personal Website: http://fentin.com/me
>
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From joel at fentin.com  Wed Oct  6 17:42:26 2010
From: joel at fentin.com (Joel Fentin)
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2010 17:42:26 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Running PHP slide show from Perl
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On 10/6/2010 5:15 PM, Nicholas Wehr wrote:
> Joel, without knowing more about the details of your system - I
> would say that your solution strategy seems to be introducing a
> lot of complexity and indirection. If there is a problem with the
> php/javascript application, I think your time is best spent
> solving it within that environment. Alternately, php developers
> are plentiful for contract...

I agree fully.

Alternately I might be able to solve the problem by removing all 
page caching. Some of you have sent suggestions on how to do that, 
but I haven't gotten around to learning it.

-- 
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Biz Website:      http://fentin.com
Personal Website: http://fentin.com/me

From xrz1138 at gmail.com  Wed Oct  6 18:00:53 2010
From: xrz1138 at gmail.com (Christopher Hahn)
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 18:00:53 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Running PHP slide show from Perl
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I have to add that anyone who can work with perl can hack php immediately.

Developing from scratch might take a bit longer, but not much.

Good luck!

Chris

2010/10/6 Nicholas Wehr <pm at bionikchickens.com>

> Joel, without knowing more about the details of your system - I would say
> that your solution strategy seems to be introducing a lot of complexity and
> indirection. If there is a problem with the php/javascript application, I
> think your time is best spent solving it within that environment.
> Alternately, php developers are plentiful for contract...
>
> -nw
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Joel Fentin <joel at fentin.com> wrote:
>
>> On 10/6/2010 11:26 AM, Nicholas Wehr wrote:
>>
>>> hm, well I see how this can be challenging.
>>>
>>> is your goal to download a webpage and redisplay it with perl? or
>>> do you just want the php web content?
>>>
>>> if so, I recommend WWW::Mechanize
>>>
>>
>> As brief as I can make it.
>>
>> + go to http://calscape.com/
>>
>> + click the "Trees" dynamic link. You should see a list of trees.
>>
>> + click the thumbnail or common name of the first tree. A page is
>> displayed specific to that tree. Note the slide show.
>>
>> + Click the 'Next Plant' link (near upper right corner). Another plant
>> page is displayed. Note the slide show.
>>
>> + Click the browser back button. the prior plant data is displayed but not
>> the prior slide show.
>>
>> ===============
>>
>> + I put that slide show into that page with an iframe.
>>
>> + I create the show on the fly per the specific plant we are looking at.
>>
>> + The slide show is an older version (also php) soon to be replaced by
>> plant1.php or something very like it.
>>
>> + I was experimenting with system() as a means to solve the back button
>> problem.
>>
>> ===============
>>
>> Is anybody still awake?
>>
>> --
>> Joel Fentin       tel: 760-749-8863
>> Biz Website:      http://fentin.com
>> Personal Website: http://fentin.com/me
>>
>
>
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From mike.junk at nethere.com  Thu Oct  7 10:40:43 2010
From: mike.junk at nethere.com (Mike McClain)
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 10:40:43 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] map HoAoA
Message-ID: <20101007174042.GA7964@playground.mcclains.net>

    First let me say that this is self assigned homework just for my
own education, I'm not in class.
    Reading perldsc and perllol I thought to pull the second item from
each array of a HoAoA (hash of arrays of arrays) using a map statement
but after several days of flailing still haven't found a solution nor
do I even understand why I'm not getting what I want.
    Here's a code segment, strict and warnings are turned on just not
shown.

{   my %HoAoA = (
                a => [ [ qw / aa1 aa2 / ], [ qw / ab1 ab2 / ] ],
                b => [ [ qw / ba1 ba2 / ], [ qw / bb1 bb2 / ] ],
                c => [ [ qw / ca1 ca2 / ], [ qw / cb1 cb2 / ],
                       [ qw / cc1 cc2 / ] ],
                );

    #   this gets refs to all arrays
    my @aRefs = map { @{ $HoAoA{$_} } [ 0..$#{ $HoAoA{$_} } ] }  keys %HoAoA ;
    #   pull second entry from each array
    for my $a ( @aRefs )
    {   print "$a = $$a[1]\n";
    }

    #   This is the statement I'm having trouble with:
    #   If you can explain why I'm only getting the second entry from the
    #   last array of each hash entry then perhaps I can figure out how
    #   to get the second entry from all arrays
    my @seconds = map { @{ $HoAoA{$_} } [ 0..$#{ $HoAoA{$_} } ]->[1] }
                                                                keys %HoAoA ;
    print "\@seconds = @seconds\n";
}

Thanks,
Mike McClain
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From merlyn at stonehenge.com  Thu Oct  7 10:44:56 2010
From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2010 10:44:56 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] map HoAoA
In-Reply-To: <20101007174042.GA7964@playground.mcclains.net> (Mike McClain's
	message of "Thu, 7 Oct 2010 10:40:43 -0700")
References: <20101007174042.GA7964@playground.mcclains.net>
Message-ID: <86mxqpvqw7.fsf@red.stonehenge.com>

>>>>> "Mike" == Mike McClain <mike.junk at nethere.com> writes:

Mike>     First let me say that this is self assigned homework just for my
Mike> own education, I'm not in class.
Mike>     Reading perldsc and perllol I thought to pull the second item from
Mike> each array of a HoAoA (hash of arrays of arrays) using a map statement
Mike> but after several days of flailing still haven't found a solution nor
Mike> do I even understand why I'm not getting what I want.
Mike>     Here's a code segment, strict and warnings are turned on just not
Mike> shown.

Mike> {   my %HoAoA = (
Mike>                 a => [ [ qw / aa1 aa2 / ], [ qw / ab1 ab2 / ] ],
Mike>                 b => [ [ qw / ba1 ba2 / ], [ qw / bb1 bb2 / ] ],
Mike>                 c => [ [ qw / ca1 ca2 / ], [ qw / cb1 cb2 / ],
Mike>                        [ qw / cc1 cc2 / ] ],
Mike>                 );

Mike>     #   this gets refs to all arrays
Mike>     my @aRefs = map { @{ $HoAoA{$_} } [ 0..$#{ $HoAoA{$_} } ] }  keys %HoAoA ;
Mike>     #   pull second entry from each array
Mike>     for my $a ( @aRefs )
Mike>     {   print "$a = $$a[1]\n";
Mike>     }

Mike>     #   This is the statement I'm having trouble with:
Mike>     #   If you can explain why I'm only getting the second entry from the
Mike>     #   last array of each hash entry then perhaps I can figure out how
Mike>     #   to get the second entry from all arrays
Mike>     my @seconds = map { @{ $HoAoA{$_} } [ 0..$#{ $HoAoA{$_} } ]->[1] }
Mike>                                                                 keys %HoAoA ;
Mike>     print "\@seconds = @seconds\n";
Mike> }

Start with the values, not the keys.  You don't need the keys:

  my @first_level_array_refs = values %HoAoA;

Now you want all the second-level array refs, in order:

  my @second_level_array_refs = map { @$_ } @first_level_array_refs;

And then you want the second element of each:

  my @seconds = map { $_->[1] } @second_level_array_refs;

Putting it all together:

  my @seconds = map { $_->[1] } map { @$_ } values %HoAoA;

And no, you can't shortcut that very much more than that.

-- 
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From rkleeman at energoncube.net  Mon Oct 11 10:26:20 2010
From: rkleeman at energoncube.net (Bob Kleemann)
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 10:26:20 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] San Diego Perl Mongers Present Damian Conway
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Just a quick reminder about Damian Conway tonight.  I look forward to
seeing everybody there.

On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Bob Kleemann <rkleeman at energoncube.net> wrote:
> The San Diego Perl Mongers present Damian Conway. ?One night only,
> Monday, October 11, 7 PM at the offices of Knobbe Martens,
> 12790 El Camino Real, San Diego, CA 92130.
>
> Come and enjoy Damian Conway, Perl luminary and all around great guy,
> as he presents his seminar "The Missing Link"
> <http://damian.conway.org/Seminars/MissingLink.html>. ?The topic will
> be focused on Perl, but should be entertaining to all programmers.
>
> If there are any questions or other concerns, please contact me via my
> Gmail address, rkleemann.
>

From rkleeman at energoncube.net  Tue Oct 19 10:21:45 2010
From: rkleeman at energoncube.net (Bob Kleemann)
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 10:21:45 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Meeting this week!
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=fHLTt2SpUX9qn-n0-c6o-euSXF_PoYq0ooUf4@mail.gmail.com>

Perl Mongers,

We have our monthly meeting this week:  Thursday at the normal place
(Anonymizer.com) and time (7 PM).  We plan to talk about Damian's
recent visit, as well as several other things.  Bring your notes,
ideas, thoughts, and imagination, and we'll chat about it all.

Please give me a heads up if you plan to make it.  Or just drop by if
you feel the need to.

I look forward to seeing you all there.

From thierryv at abac.com  Thu Oct 21 15:55:55 2010
From: thierryv at abac.com (Thierry de Villeneuve)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 00:55:55 +0200
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] SOAP server in PERL
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Dear Perl Mongers of San Diego,

I very rarely post on the list since I've left San Diego in 2002. Few  
of you remember of me regularly attending the meetings ... that was  
some 10 years ago !!!  I'm back to France now but have never  
unsubscribe from the list and long the days I was in SD.

Well, this said, here is what brings me here today.

I have this (big) project at the office where I'll need to build a  
SOAP server. The traffic is not expected to be very high: Something  
like a transaction every 10".

All the business backend is already developed and I've started  
tinkering with SOAP::Lite a bit. I've never had to develop a server  
based on SOAP (HTTP-SOAP) before. So, it's a brand new situation for  
me. The XSD and WSDL is already developed, so far so good.

If any one of you could shed some light on what are the "best  
practices", best options, best CPAN modules to consider looking at  
when to tackle this sort of project.

The time to process one of the request will be important (around  
10~20" ... creating a SQLite db file of a few thousand rows to hand  
over). I would rather consider an architecture where the server would  
fork a subprocess to take care of each request. This is this part I'm  
not feeling conformable with as of today.

If someone could get me a few pointers where to start digging, that'll  
be awesome, specifically regarding the forking/threading issue.   
Otherwise, I'll have to turn this part of the project to someone else  
to develop it in C++ and gSOAP. I'd like prove PERL can do the job  
here too ;-)

Thanks a lot,

Thierry







From pm at bionikchickens.com  Thu Oct 21 16:21:59 2010
From: pm at bionikchickens.com (Nicholas Wehr)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 16:21:59 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] SOAP server in PERL
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I've always opted for using XMLRPC instead as the WSDL support was shotty
for many years. I'm interested to hear what others have done here. At this
point - I'd be inclined to assert that Perl doesn't have great
interoperability with other soap implementations (like interacting w/ java
server/clients). this has been my experience in the past - I hope I'm wrong.

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Thierry de Villeneuve <thierryv at abac.com>wrote:

> Dear Perl Mongers of San Diego,
>
> I very rarely post on the list since I've left San Diego in 2002. Few of
> you remember of me regularly attending the meetings ... that was some 10
> years ago !!!  I'm back to France now but have never unsubscribe from the
> list and long the days I was in SD.
>
> Well, this said, here is what brings me here today.
>
> I have this (big) project at the office where I'll need to build a SOAP
> server. The traffic is not expected to be very high: Something like a
> transaction every 10".
>
> All the business backend is already developed and I've started tinkering
> with SOAP::Lite a bit. I've never had to develop a server based on SOAP
> (HTTP-SOAP) before. So, it's a brand new situation for me. The XSD and WSDL
> is already developed, so far so good.
>
> If any one of you could shed some light on what are the "best practices",
> best options, best CPAN modules to consider looking at when to tackle this
> sort of project.
>
> The time to process one of the request will be important (around 10~20" ...
> creating a SQLite db file of a few thousand rows to hand over). I would
> rather consider an architecture where the server would fork a subprocess to
> take care of each request. This is this part I'm not feeling conformable
> with as of today.
>
> If someone could get me a few pointers where to start digging, that'll be
> awesome, specifically regarding the forking/threading issue.  Otherwise,
> I'll have to turn this part of the project to someone else to develop it in
> C++ and gSOAP. I'd like prove PERL can do the job here too ;-)
>
> Thanks a lot,
>
> Thierry
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From shlomif at iglu.org.il  Fri Oct 22 01:38:00 2010
From: shlomif at iglu.org.il (Shlomi Fish)
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 10:38:00 +0200
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] SOAP server in PERL
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Hi Thierry,

first of all I should note that you shouldn't start a new topic by replying to 
an existing message, because threaded mailers will display it as inside the 
previous topic. Instead, send a new message to san-diego-pm at pm.org .

On Friday 22 October 2010 00:55:55 Thierry de Villeneuve wrote:
> Dear Perl Mongers of San Diego,
> 
> I very rarely post on the list since I've left San Diego in 2002. Few
> of you remember of me regularly attending the meetings ... that was
> some 10 years ago !!!  I'm back to France now but have never
> unsubscribe from the list and long the days I was in SD.
> 
> Well, this said, here is what brings me here today.
> 
> I have this (big) project at the office where I'll need to build a
> SOAP server. The traffic is not expected to be very high: Something
> like a transaction every 10".
> 
> All the business backend is already developed and I've started
> tinkering with SOAP::Lite a bit. I've never had to develop a server
> based on SOAP (HTTP-SOAP) before. So, it's a brand new situation for
> me. The XSD and WSDL is already developed, so far so good.
> 
> If any one of you could shed some light on what are the "best
> practices", best options, best CPAN modules to consider looking at
> when to tackle this sort of project.
> 

According to perlbot on Freenode's #perl :

{{{
Sep 22 20:51:12 <perlbot>       rindolf: avoid SOAP::Lite, try SOAP::WSDL or 
XML::Compile::SOAP for more modern takes on the protocol
}}}

Note that I've never done any SOAP myself so I'm not speaking from experience.



> The time to process one of the request will be important (around
> 10~20" ... creating a SQLite db file of a few thousand rows to hand

I've never seen someone mark seconds of time as ?"?, it seems highly 
unorthodox, and easily confused with minutes.

> over). I would rather consider an architecture where the server would
> fork a subprocess to take care of each request. This is this part I'm
> not feeling conformable with as of today.
> 
> If someone could get me a few pointers where to start digging, that'll
> be awesome, specifically regarding the forking/threading issue.
> Otherwise, I'll have to turn this part of the project to someone else
> to develop it in C++ and gSOAP. I'd like prove PERL can do the job

It's "Perl" or "perl" but never "PERL":

http://perl.org.il/misc.html#pl_vs_pl

Regards,

	Shlomi Fish

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