From rkleeman at energoncube.net  Tue Sep  4 15:59:18 2007
From: rkleeman at energoncube.net (Bob Kleemann)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 15:59:18 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] UG News--Women in Tech Series from www.oreillynet.com
Message-ID: <20070904225918.GH8577@energoncube.net>

For all of you that are interested:

----- Forwarded message from Marsee Henon <marsee at oreilly.com> -----

From: Marsee Henon <marsee at oreilly.com>
Subject: UG News--Women in Tech Series from www.oreillynet.com

Hi

Please share the following press announcement with your members 
if you think they will be interested.

--Marsee


Women of Tech: Hear Us Roar, A Special Series from www.oreillynet.com
The Mighty Voices of Sisterhood in Tech

Sebastopol, CA--There's no doubt that women coders, developers, designers,
and programmers are a powerful force in the modern tech industry, despite
their smaller numbers compared to men. At the same time many of the major
impacts and innovations of women at every level of the development and
evolution of technology--from the first female coders to today's Web 2.0
pioneers--aren't all that well known.

But starting now, O'Reilly Media aims to celebrate and give voice to the
real-world experiences and concerns of these female trailblazers by
publishing a new online series, "Women in Tech." The brainchild of Tatiana
Apandi, an associate editor at O'Reilly, the series features articles
solicited from technology's female side--and all focused on what it's like
to carve out a career in technology.

The timely new series reveals the challenges, rewards, and, sometimes,
frustrations of being a woman in an industry still dominated by men. "Each
day, we'll present a different woman's story that I believe will open
readers' eyes to her unique perspective," explains Apandi. "We have
contributions from conference organizers, authors, programmers,
developers, and more--women who have pioneered prosperous careers in
technology." 

"As the series progresses, I hope readers find that this myriad of female
perspectives shows how valuable it is to hear different points of view,"
says Tatiana. "Whether readers think there are issues on which we need to
work or that there are no issues at all, one underlying truth is that we
need to support each other as individuals and help one another with our
separate goals."

With clarity, honesty, and wit, this collection reveals what it's like to
be in the minority of the male-dominated geek culture. Here are just a few
of the voices in this upcoming series:

- Anna Martelli, Ravenscroft, Pythonista
- Audrey Eschright, independent programmer/designer/publisher
- CJ Rayhill, SVP of Product Management and Technology for Safari Books
Online
- Dawn Foster, Director of Developer Relations at Jive Software
- Dru Lavigne, Chair of the BSD Certification Group Inc
- Gabrielle Roth, member of the Portland Perl Mongers
- Jeni Tennison, independent consultant and author
- Jill Dyche, partner and co-founder of Baseline Consulting
- Juliet Kemp, Systems Administrator for the Astrophysics group at
Imperial College
- Julia Lerman, Board member of the Vermont Software Developer Alliance,
runs the Vermont.NET User Group
- Kaliya Hamlin, unconference Shesgeeky.org organizer
- Kirsten Jones, webmaster for The Perl Foundation 
- Lauren Wood, Chaired for the W3C DOM Working Group
- Leslie Hawthorn, works for Open Source Programs Office at Google
- Selena Deckelmann, leads PDXPUG, a PostgreSQL Users Group
- Shelley Powers, software developer/architect, photographer, and author

The "Women in Tech," series starts Sept 4. Find out what they have to
share and join the discussion here:
http://www.oreillynet.com/womenintech/

About O'Reilly
O'Reilly Media spreads the knowledge of innovators through its books,
online services, magazines, and conferences. Since 1978, O'Reilly Media
has been a chronicler and catalyst of cutting-edge development, homing in
on the technology trends that really matter and spurring their adoption by
amplifying "faint signals" from the alpha geeks who are creating the
future. An active participant in the technology community, the company has
a long history of advocacy, meme-making, and evangelism.

# # #

O'Reilly is a registered trademark of O'Reilly Media, Inc. All other
trademarks are property of their respective owners.

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From rkleeman at energoncube.net  Tue Sep  4 16:50:30 2007
From: rkleeman at energoncube.net (Bob Kleemann)
Date: Tue, 4 Sep 2007 16:50:30 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Meeting this month!
Message-ID: <20070904235030.GI8577@energoncube.net>

Hey Mongers,

Just a quick reminder folks, we're doing our monthly meeting on Monday.
It will either be at Qualcomm, or at Panera Bread, depending on the
preferences of the group.  Share your thoughts.

In the coming months it will be nice to have a few tech presentations.
We've had a few ideas on what to talk about, so if you have any ideas,
or desire to present, we'd be more than happy to entertain them.

From chris at chrisgrau.com  Wed Sep  5 07:10:30 2007
From: chris at chrisgrau.com (Chris Grau)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 07:10:30 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Meeting this month!
In-Reply-To: <20070904235030.GI8577@energoncube.net>
References: <20070904235030.GI8577@energoncube.net>
Message-ID: <20070905141030.GE30706@chrisgrau.com>

On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 04:50:30PM -0700, Bob Kleemann wrote:
> Just a quick reminder folks, we're doing our monthly meeting on
> Monday.  It will either be at Qualcomm, or at Panera Bread, depending
> on the preferences of the group.  Share your thoughts.

I don't know if I can book the auditorium with this little notice.  It's
possible, but we may be at Panera Bread this month.
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From tobert at gmail.com  Wed Sep  5 09:57:27 2007
From: tobert at gmail.com (Al Tobey)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 09:57:27 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Meeting this month!
In-Reply-To: <20070905141030.GE30706@chrisgrau.com>
References: <20070904235030.GI8577@energoncube.net>
	<20070905141030.GE30706@chrisgrau.com>
Message-ID: <5ac7acb10709050957n264f60b4g2d85984f03b30b80@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/5/07, Chris Grau <chris at chrisgrau.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 04:50:30PM -0700, Bob Kleemann wrote:
> > Just a quick reminder folks, we're doing our monthly meeting on
> > Monday.  It will either be at Qualcomm, or at Panera Bread, depending
> > on the preferences of the group.  Share your thoughts.
>
> I don't know if I can book the auditorium with this little notice.  It's
> possible, but we may be at Panera Bread this month.

I vote for Panera.

> _______________________________________________
> San-Diego-pm mailing list
> San-Diego-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/san-diego-pm
>
>

From rkleeman at energoncube.net  Wed Sep  5 16:51:09 2007
From: rkleeman at energoncube.net (Bob Kleemann)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2007 16:51:09 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Meeting this month!
In-Reply-To: <20070905141030.GE30706@chrisgrau.com>
References: <20070904235030.GI8577@energoncube.net>
	<20070905141030.GE30706@chrisgrau.com>
Message-ID: <20070905235109.GJ8577@energoncube.net>

On Wed, Sep 05, 2007 at 07:10:30AM -0700, Chris Grau wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 04, 2007 at 04:50:30PM -0700, Bob Kleemann wrote:
> > Just a quick reminder folks, we're doing our monthly meeting on
> > Monday.  It will either be at Qualcomm, or at Panera Bread, depending
> > on the preferences of the group.  Share your thoughts.
> 
> I don't know if I can book the auditorium with this little notice.  It's
> possible, but we may be at Panera Bread this month.

Ah, in that case, that makes it easy.  We'll do the meeting this month at
Panera Bread.  Whenever we are organized enough to have a presentation,
we'll move the meeting to Qualcomm.

From chris at chrisgrau.com  Fri Sep  7 13:40:59 2007
From: chris at chrisgrau.com (Chris Grau)
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 13:40:59 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] LA.pm Tech. Meeting,
	brian d foy speaking in Santa Monica, Thursday Sept 20th
Message-ID: <20070907204059.GH30706@chrisgrau.com>

----- Forwarded message from Juan Jose Natera <naterajj at gmail.com> -----

From: Juan Jose Natera <naterajj at gmail.com>
To: Los Angeles Perl Mongers <losangeles-pm at pm.org>
Cc: thousand-oaks-pm at pm.org, oc-pm at pm.org
Subject: [LA.pm] LA.pm Tech. Meeting, brian d foy speaking in Santa Monica,
	Thursday Sept 20th
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2007 22:11:50 -0700

Announcing LA.pm's next meeting!

What:
brian d foy will present "Making your own CPAN"

When:
Thursday the 20th of September, from 7:00pm to 9:00pm

Where:
Rent.com
2425 Olympic Blvd, Suite 400E
Santa Monica, CA

LA.pm is very glad to welcome back renowned Perl author brian d foy,
for his presentation about "Making your own CPAN", discover how CPAN
works and how to create your own local mirrors, it's CPAN to go!.
The meeting will be held at the Rent.com offices in Santa Monica
on Thursday the 20th of September, from 7:00pm to 9:00pm

brian d foy is an instructor for Stonhenge Consulting Services, he has
co-authored many Perl books, including: Learning Perl, Intermediate Perl,
and his recent solo book Mastering Perl. He is the creator and a regular
contributor of the quarterly magazine The Perl Review (TPR) and one of
the founders of the first Perl Mongers group, New York PM. To get more
information about brian please check his website:

http://www.pair.com/~comdog/

His presentation is drawn from an article that will appear in the Fall 2007
issue of TPR, so if you can't make it to the meeting make sure to take a look
at the magazine: http://www.theperlreview.com

Rent.com is an Ebay company, and one of the local Perl shops, they are
located in Santa Monica. Find out more at

http://www.rent.com/company/why

IMPORTANT INFORMATION BELOW

Google Map:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=2425+Olympic+Blvd,+Suite+400E,+Santa+Monica,+CA&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=48.50801,111.621094&ie=UTF8&z=16&iwloc=addr&om=1

Parking Instructions:
*** Attendees please make sure to park in the Visitors section.
PLEASE DO NOT FORGET TO BRING YOUR PARKING TICKETS FOR VALIDATION ***

Seating is limited and will be available on a first come, first served basis.

The LA.pm Team
_______________________________________________
Losangeles-pm mailing list
Losangeles-pm at pm.org
http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm

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From rkleeman at energoncube.net  Fri Sep  7 17:00:48 2007
From: rkleeman at energoncube.net (Bob Kleemann)
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2007 17:00:48 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Perl v PHP, Solaris v Linux
Message-ID: <20070908000048.GB18827@energoncube.net>

Something to spark an interesting discussion for Monday night's meeting:

http://use.perl.org/~schwern/journal/34378

From joel at fentin.com  Mon Sep 10 09:55:13 2007
From: joel at fentin.com (Joel Fentin)
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 09:55:13 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Meeting places
Message-ID: <46E576F1.9040103@fentin.com>

perl perl perl (I've had messages not go through because they didn't 
contain the word perl.)

=========

I'm on the VB dot net mailing list. Here is part of an email I got:

The San Diego .NET Developers Group has been meeting at the San Diego 
Design Center ... for more than eight years. ... After more than eight 
years of meetings at the Qualcomm facility, the Group is facing the very 
real possibility that the Qualcomm facility will no longer be available. 
Changes in Qualcomm policies may not allow for our continued use of 
their wonderful auditorium for our meetings effective immediately.

The Qualcomm people have indicated that they are still open to the 
possibility of the San Diego .NET Developers Group using their 
auditorium. However, we need to convince them that it is their interest 
to do so. They are asking for a list of San Diego .NET Developers Group 
Members that are associated with Qualcomm. If we can show that there are 
Qualcomm people who derive benefit from the San Diego .NET Developers 
Group, then there is a very real chance that we will be able to continue 
using their auditorium....

=========

The implication is that Perl Mongers lucked out once, but if we are to 
meet there on a continuous basis, we may have to prove our worth to 
Qualcomm.

-- 
Joel Fentin       tel: 760-749-8863
Email:            http://fentin.com/me/ContactMe.html
Biz Website:      http://fentin.com
Personal Website: http://fentin.com/me

From rkleeman at energoncube.net  Mon Sep 10 10:36:16 2007
From: rkleeman at energoncube.net (Bob Kleemann)
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:36:16 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Meeting tonight!
Message-ID: <20070910173616.GD18827@energoncube.net>

Hey Mongers,

Just your normal Monday meeting reminder.  We're meeting tonight at the
Panera Bread on Mira Mesa Blvd at 7PM.  Come on over and bring your
questions, comments, concerns, and such and we'll chat about them.  We'll
also be chatting about future meeting locations, future meeting topics,
future visits from various Perl luminaries.  So think about what you'd like
and bring those thoughts to the meeting tonight.

In particular, think about which item in this list you'd most like to see
presented: http://damian.conway.org/Seminars/

See you all tonight!

From chris at chrisgrau.com  Mon Sep 10 11:32:45 2007
From: chris at chrisgrau.com (Chris Grau)
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 11:32:45 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Meeting places
In-Reply-To: <46E576F1.9040103@fentin.com>
References: <46E576F1.9040103@fentin.com>
Message-ID: <20070910183245.GB20689@chrisgrau.com>

On Mon, Sep 10, 2007 at 09:55:13AM -0700, Joel Fentin wrote:
> perl perl perl (I've had messages not go through because they didn't
> contain the word perl.)

Really?  That's funny.

Probably keeps the Python folks away.

> The implication is that Perl Mongers lucked out once, but if we are to
> meet there on a continuous basis, we may have to prove our worth to
> Qualcomm.

Current policy is that just about anyone can have a non-work related
meeting.  The catch is that the person hosting the meeting has to work
for Qualcomm and has to request approval for every meeting.  I don't
know when this current policy went into effect, but I've not heard any
word that it's changing.
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From chris at chrisgrau.com  Mon Sep 10 13:47:31 2007
From: chris at chrisgrau.com (Chris Grau)
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:47:31 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] [LA.pm] LA.pm Social meeting with Steven Lembark
Message-ID: <20070910204731.GC20689@chrisgrau.com>

----- Forwarded message from Juan Jose Natera <naterajj at gmail.com> -----

From: Juan Jose Natera <naterajj at gmail.com>
To: Los Angeles Perl Mongers <losangeles-pm at pm.org>
Subject: [LA.pm] LA.pm Social meeting with Steven Lembark
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:36:29 -0700

LA.pm next social meeting!

What:

LA.pm Social Meeting with Steven Lembark

When:

Wednesday, Sept 26th at 8:00pm

Where:

Barney's Beanery West Hollywood
8447 Santa Monica Blvd.
Hollywood, CA 90069

Join us on Wednesday the 26th of September to meet Steven Lembark,
Steven is a Perl Monger that moved from LA to NYC a few years ago, he
has been using Perl since before it was associated with humped
mammals, he also has spoken at OSCON and YAPC::NA, and if you buy him
a beer he'll introduce you to his best friend, "map".

For directions, check out the google map:

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=+8447+Santa+Monica+Blvd.%0D%0AHollywood,+CA+90069&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=31.922255,76.464844&ie=UTF8&ll=34.091052,-118.373694&spn=0.008139,0.018668&z=16&iwloc=addr&om=1

The LA.pm Team
_______________________________________________
Losangeles-pm mailing list
Losangeles-pm at pm.org
http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/losangeles-pm

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From rkleeman at energoncube.net  Tue Sep 11 11:50:49 2007
From: rkleeman at energoncube.net (Bob Kleemann)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:50:49 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Damian is coming to town!
Message-ID: <20070911185049.GB4983@energoncube.net>

Hey Mongers,

As a continuation of last night's discussion, I'd like to get the opinoin of
the list on what they would like to see.

Damian Conway is coming to town next month.  He's offered to host one of his
great seminars for us on either October 3 or 4.  So the questions I have for
the list is, what day works best for you, and what seminar are you interested
in.  The list of available seminars is here:
http://damian.conway.org/Seminars/

Damian's suggestions include:
    "Sex and Violence: Social and Technical Lessons from the Perl 6 Project",
    "Fun with Dead Languages",
    "Extreme Perl - The Horror That Is SelfGOL",
    and "Quantom::Superpositions".

At the meeting there was also some discussion around "The Da Vinci Codebase".
So take a look at what is available, and what time you have available, and
let us know.

From chris_radcliff at mac.com  Tue Sep 11 12:08:08 2007
From: chris_radcliff at mac.com (Chris Radcliff)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:08:08 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Damian is coming to town!
In-Reply-To: <20070911185049.GB4983@energoncube.net>
References: <20070911185049.GB4983@energoncube.net>
Message-ID: <C6950E8C-8D44-4C7F-8575-583101CF318A@mac.com>

Either day is fine with me. For the topic, I'm partial to "Fun with  
Dead Languages" or "Sex and Violence", but I'll show up regardless.

Let me know when a time and place are set and I'll add it to Eventful.

~chris

On Sep 11, 2007, at 11:50 AM, Bob Kleemann wrote:

> Hey Mongers,
>
> As a continuation of last night's discussion, I'd like to get the  
> opinoin of
> the list on what they would like to see.
>
> Damian Conway is coming to town next month.  He's offered to host  
> one of his
> great seminars for us on either October 3 or 4.  So the questions I  
> have for
> the list is, what day works best for you, and what seminar are you  
> interested
> in.  The list of available seminars is here:
> http://damian.conway.org/Seminars/
>
> Damian's suggestions include:
>     "Sex and Violence: Social and Technical Lessons from the Perl 6  
> Project",
>     "Fun with Dead Languages",
>     "Extreme Perl - The Horror That Is SelfGOL",
>     and "Quantom::Superpositions".
>
> At the meeting there was also some discussion around "The Da Vinci  
> Codebase".
> So take a look at what is available, and what time you have  
> available, and
> let us know.

From merlyn at stonehenge.com  Tue Sep 11 12:12:14 2007
From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 12:12:14 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Damian is coming to town!
In-Reply-To: <20070911185049.GB4983@energoncube.net> (Bob Kleemann's message
	of "Tue, 11 Sep 2007 11:50:49 -0700")
References: <20070911185049.GB4983@energoncube.net>
Message-ID: <86myvtggoh.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>

>>>>> "Bob" == Bob Kleemann <rkleeman at energoncube.net> writes:

Bob> Damian Conway is coming to town next month.  He's offered to host one of
Bob> his great seminars for us on either October 3 or 4.  So the questions I
Bob> have for the list is, what day works best for you, and what seminar are
Bob> you interested in.

Heh... I'll *also* be in town on the 3rd and 4th of october. :) When it rains,
it pours.

I'm doing a photo workshop from the 4th through the 7th at a downtown hotel,
busy during the day, not sure what's happening in the evenings until I get
started.

-- 
Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095
<merlyn at stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/>
Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc.
See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training!

From kaushik at palebluedot.net  Wed Sep 12 11:26:49 2007
From: kaushik at palebluedot.net (Kaushik Acharya)
Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 11:26:49 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Damian is coming to town!
In-Reply-To: <20070911185049.GB4983@energoncube.net>
References: <20070911185049.GB4983@energoncube.net>
Message-ID: <46E82F69.7000909@palebluedot.net>

Either night works for me...  I'd prefer any topic concerning Perl 6, 
but I'll show up no matter what.

Kaushik


Bob Kleemann wrote:
> Hey Mongers,
>
> As a continuation of last night's discussion, I'd like to get the opinoin of
> the list on what they would like to see.
>
> Damian Conway is coming to town next month.  He's offered to host one of his
> great seminars for us on either October 3 or 4.  So the questions I have for
> the list is, what day works best for you, and what seminar are you interested
> in.  The list of available seminars is here:
> http://damian.conway.org/Seminars/
>
> Damian's suggestions include:
>     "Sex and Violence: Social and Technical Lessons from the Perl 6 Project",
>     "Fun with Dead Languages",
>     "Extreme Perl - The Horror That Is SelfGOL",
>     and "Quantom::Superpositions".
>
> At the meeting there was also some discussion around "The Da Vinci Codebase".
> So take a look at what is available, and what time you have available, and
> let us know.
> _______________________________________________
> San-Diego-pm mailing list
> San-Diego-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/san-diego-pm
>
>
>   

From joel at fentin.com  Fri Sep 14 15:24:27 2007
From: joel at fentin.com (Joel Fentin)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 15:24:27 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Passing multiple select options
Message-ID: <46EB0A1B.40108@fentin.com>

After multiple options are selected and the submit button is clicked, I 
can't get the mulitple options into the receiving code *if* the form 
method is post.

If the form method is get, the needed data is contained in 
$ENV{'QUERY_STRING'}.

If the form method is post, I don't know how to get it. I would prefer post.

The sending code:

#!/usr/bin/perl -w
print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
print'
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" 
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<HTML>
<HEAD>
</HEAD>
<BODY>
<FORM ACTION="EditJob.pl"  METHOD="POST" 
ENCTYPE="application/x-www-form-urlencoded">
<TABLE BORDER CELLPADDING=5>
<TR>
<TD>
<SELECT NAME="teams" MULTIPLE SIZE=6>
<OPTION VALUE="b"          >blue</option>
<OPTION VALUE="g"          >green</option>
<OPTION VALUE="r"          >red</option>
<OPTION VALUE="p"          >purple</option>
<OPTION VALUE="f"          >fuschia</option>
<OPTION VALUE="m"          >mango</option>
</SELECT>
<INPUT TYPE=SUBMIT VALUE="submit">
</TD>
</TR>
</TABLE>
</FORM>
</body>
</HTML>';

Some of the receiving code:

print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
my $key;
foreach $key(keys %ENV){print "$key=$ENV{$key}\n"}
my @Param = $co->param(); die map {$_.' = '.$co->param($_)."\n"}(@Param);

=========

perl perl perl

-- 
Joel Fentin       tel: 760-749-8863
Email:            http://fentin.com/me/ContactMe.html
Biz Website:      http://fentin.com
Personal Website: http://fentin.com/me

From dan at tierra.net  Fri Sep 14 16:02:32 2007
From: dan at tierra.net (Daniel Risse)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:02:32 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Passing multiple select options
In-Reply-To: <46EB0A1B.40108@fentin.com>
References: <46EB0A1B.40108@fentin.com>
Message-ID: <46EB1308.6080606@tierra.net>

If a post is done, then the form data must be read from STDIN.
Something like this should work most of the time:

my $query_string;
read STDIN, $query_string, $ENV{CONTENT_LENGTH};

Then $query_string will look the same as $ENV{QUERY_STRING} for a get.
  Dan


Joel Fentin wrote:
> After multiple options are selected and the submit button is clicked, I 
> can't get the mulitple options into the receiving code *if* the form 
> method is post.
>
> If the form method is get, the needed data is contained in 
> $ENV{'QUERY_STRING'}.
>
> If the form method is post, I don't know how to get it. I would prefer post.
>
> The sending code:
>
> #!/usr/bin/perl -w
> print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
> print'
> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" 
> "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
> <HTML>
> <HEAD>
> </HEAD>
> <BODY>
> <FORM ACTION="EditJob.pl"  METHOD="POST" 
> ENCTYPE="application/x-www-form-urlencoded">
> <TABLE BORDER CELLPADDING=5>
> <TR>
> <TD>
> <SELECT NAME="teams" MULTIPLE SIZE=6>
> <OPTION VALUE="b"          >blue</option>
> <OPTION VALUE="g"          >green</option>
> <OPTION VALUE="r"          >red</option>
> <OPTION VALUE="p"          >purple</option>
> <OPTION VALUE="f"          >fuschia</option>
> <OPTION VALUE="m"          >mango</option>
> </SELECT>
> <INPUT TYPE=SUBMIT VALUE="submit">
> </TD>
> </TR>
> </TABLE>
> </FORM>
> </body>
> </HTML>';
>
> Some of the receiving code:
>
> print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
> my $key;
> foreach $key(keys %ENV){print "$key=$ENV{$key}\n"}
> my @Param = $co->param(); die map {$_.' = '.$co->param($_)."\n"}(@Param);
>
> =========
>
> perl perl perl
>
>   


From rkleeman at energoncube.net  Fri Sep 14 16:05:09 2007
From: rkleeman at energoncube.net (Bob Kleemann)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:05:09 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Passing multiple select options
In-Reply-To: <46EB0A1B.40108@fentin.com>
References: <46EB0A1B.40108@fentin.com>
Message-ID: <20070914230509.GA11198@energoncube.net>

param in a scalar context ( in a context where only one value is expected )
returns one item, the first set item.  In a list context it returns multiple
items.  To fix your code below:

  die map {$_.' = '.join(', ', $co->param($_))."\n"}(@Param);


On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 03:24:27PM -0700, Joel Fentin wrote:
> After multiple options are selected and the submit button is clicked, I 
> can't get the mulitple options into the receiving code *if* the form 
> method is post.
> 
> If the form method is get, the needed data is contained in 
> $ENV{'QUERY_STRING'}.
> 
> If the form method is post, I don't know how to get it. I would prefer post.
> 
> The sending code:
> 
> #!/usr/bin/perl -w
> print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
> print'
> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" 
> "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
> <HTML>
> <HEAD>
> </HEAD>
> <BODY>
> <FORM ACTION="EditJob.pl"  METHOD="POST" 
> ENCTYPE="application/x-www-form-urlencoded">
> <TABLE BORDER CELLPADDING=5>
> <TR>
> <TD>
> <SELECT NAME="teams" MULTIPLE SIZE=6>
> <OPTION VALUE="b"          >blue</option>
> <OPTION VALUE="g"          >green</option>
> <OPTION VALUE="r"          >red</option>
> <OPTION VALUE="p"          >purple</option>
> <OPTION VALUE="f"          >fuschia</option>
> <OPTION VALUE="m"          >mango</option>
> </SELECT>
> <INPUT TYPE=SUBMIT VALUE="submit">
> </TD>
> </TR>
> </TABLE>
> </FORM>
> </body>
> </HTML>';
> 
> Some of the receiving code:
> 
> print "Content-type: text/html\n\n";
> my $key;
> foreach $key(keys %ENV){print "$key=$ENV{$key}\n"}
> my @Param = $co->param(); die map {$_.' = '.$co->param($_)."\n"}(@Param);
> 
> =========
> 
> perl perl perl
> 
> -- 
> Joel Fentin       tel: 760-749-8863
> Email:            http://fentin.com/me/ContactMe.html
> Biz Website:      http://fentin.com
> Personal Website: http://fentin.com/me
> _______________________________________________
> San-Diego-pm mailing list
> San-Diego-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/san-diego-pm

From merlyn at stonehenge.com  Fri Sep 14 23:33:56 2007
From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 23:33:56 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Passing multiple select options
In-Reply-To: <20070914230509.GA11198@energoncube.net> (Bob Kleemann's message
	of "Fri, 14 Sep 2007 16:05:09 -0700")
References: <46EB0A1B.40108@fentin.com>
	<20070914230509.GA11198@energoncube.net>
Message-ID: <86wsus1lpn.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>

>>>>> "Bob" == Bob Kleemann <rkleeman at energoncube.net> writes:

Bob>   die map {$_.' = '.join(', ', $co->param($_))."\n"}(@Param);

Please don't use map in a void context if you think I might be watching. :(

-- 
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From joel at fentin.com  Sat Sep 15 00:18:49 2007
From: joel at fentin.com (Joel Fentin)
Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2007 00:18:49 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Passing multiple select options
In-Reply-To: <86wsus1lpn.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>
References: <46EB0A1B.40108@fentin.com>	<20070914230509.GA11198@energoncube.net>
	<86wsus1lpn.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>
Message-ID: <46EB8759.2000606@fentin.com>

Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
>>>>>> "Bob" == Bob Kleemann <rkleeman at energoncube.net> writes:
> 
> Bob>   die map {$_.' = '.join(', ', $co->param($_))."\n"}(@Param);
> 
> Please don't use map in a void context if you think I might be watching. :(

The above did not work for me.

I twice tried to send what happened, but it wouldn't go out to the 
mailing list.

Daniel Risse's suggestion didn't work either. Again, when I sent what 
happened, it wouldn't go out to the mailing list.

-- 
Joel Fentin       tel: 760-749-8863
Email:            http://fentin.com/me/ContactMe.html
Biz Website:      http://fentin.com
Personal Website: http://fentin.com/me

From chris at chrisgrau.com  Thu Sep 20 13:57:35 2007
From: chris at chrisgrau.com (Chris Grau)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 13:57:35 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Damian is coming to town!
In-Reply-To: <20070911185049.GB4983@energoncube.net>
References: <20070911185049.GB4983@energoncube.net>
Message-ID: <20070920205735.GL20689@chrisgrau.com>

On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 11:50:49AM -0700, Bob Kleemann wrote:
> Damian Conway is coming to town next month.  He's offered to host one
> of his great seminars for us on either October 3 or 4.

Has a day been settled on yet?  My discussions with various folks on IRC
tells me that Thursday the 4th would be the better day.  If that's been
decided, I can go ahead and book the room.  What time are we looking at,
7pm 'til whenever?
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From mark.schoonover at gmail.com  Thu Sep 20 14:04:07 2007
From: mark.schoonover at gmail.com (Mark Schoonover)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:04:07 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Damian is coming to town!
In-Reply-To: <20070920205735.GL20689@chrisgrau.com>
References: <20070911185049.GB4983@energoncube.net>
	<20070920205735.GL20689@chrisgrau.com>
Message-ID: <125c4f3c0709201404t6d5a3fc2ncef01f35ca049cad@mail.gmail.com>

On 9/20/07, Chris Grau <chris at chrisgrau.com> wrote:
>
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 11:50:49AM -0700, Bob Kleemann wrote:
> > Damian Conway is coming to town next month.  He's offered to host one
> > of his great seminars for us on either October 3 or 4.
>
> Has a day been settled on yet?  My discussions with various folks on IRC
> tells me that Thursday the 4th would be the better day.  If that's been
> decided, I can go ahead and book the room.  What time are we looking at,
> 7pm 'til whenever?



Chris,

Where on IRC do you guys hang out? My vote would be for Wed, or starting @
7:30 on Thurs. Just tell Damian football practice doesn't end until 7 for
me! He'll understand. :)



-- 
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mark.schoonover at gmail.com
http://marksitblog.blogspot.com
Cell: 619-368-0099

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From menolly at mib.org  Thu Sep 20 14:14:32 2007
From: menolly at mib.org (Menolly)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 14:14:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Damian is coming to town!
In-Reply-To: <125c4f3c0709201404t6d5a3fc2ncef01f35ca049cad@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20070911185049.GB4983@energoncube.net>
	<20070920205735.GL20689@chrisgrau.com>
	<125c4f3c0709201404t6d5a3fc2ncef01f35ca049cad@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0709201412240.8791@nuthaus>

On Thu, 20 Sep 2007, Mark Schoonover wrote:

> On 9/20/07, Chris Grau <chris at chrisgrau.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 11:50:49AM -0700, Bob Kleemann wrote:
>>> Damian Conway is coming to town next month.  He's offered to host one
>>> of his great seminars for us on either October 3 or 4.
>>
>> Has a day been settled on yet?  My discussions with various folks on IRC
>> tells me that Thursday the 4th would be the better day.  If that's been
>> decided, I can go ahead and book the room.  What time are we looking at,
>> 7pm 'til whenever?
>
> Where on IRC do you guys hang out? My vote would be for Wed, or starting @
> 7:30 on Thurs. Just tell Damian football practice doesn't end until 7 for
> me! He'll understand. :)

I, on the other hand, can't do Wednesday at all, but Thursday
is great.  The IRC channel is #SanDiego.pm on the freenode network
(chat.freenode.net).
-- 
menolly at mib.org                    http://www.livejournal.com/~nolly/

On that day, many will say to me, "Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in
your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works
in your name?" And then will I declare to them, "I never knew you;
depart from me you evildoers." -- Matt 7:20-23, RSV

From rkleeman at energoncube.net  Thu Sep 20 15:36:14 2007
From: rkleeman at energoncube.net (Bob Kleemann)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 15:36:14 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Damian is coming to town!
In-Reply-To: <20070920205735.GL20689@chrisgrau.com>
References: <20070911185049.GB4983@energoncube.net>
	<20070920205735.GL20689@chrisgrau.com>
Message-ID: <20070920223614.GA12976@energoncube.net>

On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 01:57:35PM -0700, Chris Grau wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 11:50:49AM -0700, Bob Kleemann wrote:
> > Damian Conway is coming to town next month.  He's offered to host one
> > of his great seminars for us on either October 3 or 4.
> 
> Has a day been settled on yet?  My discussions with various folks on IRC
> tells me that Thursday the 4th would be the better day.  If that's been
> decided, I can go ahead and book the room.  What time are we looking at,
> 7pm 'til whenever?

Neither a day nor a topic has been finalized yet.  Thanks for the poke.
Myself and a lot of others can do either day.  Only a few people have
scheduling conflicts, so to those people I appologize if the quarter flip
comes up wrong for you.

... And the mighty all knowing quarter says ...

TAILS!  We'll be doing the talk on Tailsday.  Er, I mean Thursday.  As for the
time, 7PM till whenever would be a good allocation.

As for which talk we should ask Damian to present, there has been no major
pushes for one or the other (just some general preferences).  Unless I hear a
big push before Friday at noon for something else, I'll ask Damian to present
the Perl 6: Sex and Violence talk.

Let me know your thoughts folks.

From george_geller at speakeasy.net  Thu Sep 20 17:33:47 2007
From: george_geller at speakeasy.net (George Geller)
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 00:33:47 +0000
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Conway's talk
Message-ID: <W3468810551227461190334827@webmail2>

Would you please post the info about Conway's talk at http://sandiego.pm.org as soon as it if finalized?  People have been asking me about it.  And, we will most likely cancel our usual KPLUG-LPSG meeting in favor of Conway.

Thanks, George




From rkleeman at energoncube.net  Thu Sep 20 17:46:10 2007
From: rkleeman at energoncube.net (Bob Kleemann)
Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2007 17:46:10 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Conway's talk
In-Reply-To: <W3468810551227461190334827@webmail2>
References: <W3468810551227461190334827@webmail2>
Message-ID: <20070921004609.GC12976@energoncube.net>

Chris, as soon as you have the room confirmed, please update the website.
I'm sure George isn't the only one who would like to advertise it to their
coworkers and friends.

On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 12:33:47AM +0000, George Geller wrote:
> Would you please post the info about Conway's talk at http://sandiego.pm.org as soon as it if finalized?  People have been asking me about it.  And, we will most likely cancel our usual KPLUG-LPSG meeting in favor of Conway.
> 
> Thanks, George
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> San-Diego-pm mailing list
> San-Diego-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/san-diego-pm

From chris at chrisgrau.com  Fri Sep 21 07:20:41 2007
From: chris at chrisgrau.com (Chris Grau)
Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 07:20:41 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Damian is coming to town!
In-Reply-To: <20070920223614.GA12976@energoncube.net>
References: <20070911185049.GB4983@energoncube.net>
	<20070920205735.GL20689@chrisgrau.com>
	<20070920223614.GA12976@energoncube.net>
Message-ID: <20070921142041.GN20689@chrisgrau.com>

On Thu, Sep 20, 2007 at 03:36:14PM -0700, Bob Kleemann wrote:
> As for which talk we should ask Damian to present, there has been no
> major pushes for one or the other (just some general preferences).
> Unless I hear a big push before Friday at noon for something else,
> I'll ask Damian to present the Perl 6: Sex and Violence talk.

I'll go ahead and second that choice.
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From chris at chrisgrau.com  Wed Sep 26 16:59:09 2007
From: chris at chrisgrau.com (Chris Grau)
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:59:09 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Conway's talk
In-Reply-To: <W3468810551227461190334827@webmail2>
References: <W3468810551227461190334827@webmail2>
Message-ID: <20070926235909.GC13053@chrisgrau.com>

On Fri, Sep 21, 2007 at 12:33:47AM +0000, George Geller wrote:
> Would you please post the info about Conway's talk at
> http://sandiego.pm.org as soon as it if finalized?  People have been
> asking me about it.  And, we will most likely cancel our usual
> KPLUG-LPSG meeting in favor of Conway.

Room is booked, web site is updated.  Bob will be sending out an
official announcement shortly (there, you're on the hook now, Bob).
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From rkleeman at energoncube.net  Wed Sep 26 17:34:17 2007
From: rkleeman at energoncube.net (Bob Kleemann)
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2007 17:34:17 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Damian Conway Live, One night only!
Message-ID: <20070927003417.GA5995@energoncube.net>

San Diego Perl Mongers present:

Damian Conway
"Sex and Violence: Social and Technical Lessons from the Perl 6 Project"

Thursday, 4 October 2007, 7:00pm

Auditorium of Qualcomm's Building Q
6455 Lusk Blvd.
San Diego, CA 92121

San Diego Perl Mongers is proud to present Damian Conway!  One night
only in San Diego at Qualcomm's Building Q Auditorium.  Come and enjoy
as he presents "Sex and Violence: Social and Technical Lessons from
the Perl 6 Project" the latest in a long line of presentations to amuse
and excite your brain, your wits, and your Perl!

Please, invite any and all people that may be interested in attending.
The San Diego Perl Mongers look forward to meeting all of you there.

From chris_radcliff at mac.com  Thu Sep 27 09:20:40 2007
From: chris_radcliff at mac.com (Chris Radcliff)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 09:20:40 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Damian Conway Live, One night only!
In-Reply-To: <20070927003417.GA5995@energoncube.net>
References: <20070927003417.GA5995@energoncube.net>
Message-ID: <0A5CABAF-2B62-426F-9323-0DF638CF764E@mac.com>

EVENTFUL'D!

http://eventful.com/events/E0-001-006330144-4

Can't wait!

~chris

On Sep 26, 2007, at 5:34 PM, Bob Kleemann wrote:

> San Diego Perl Mongers present:
>
> Damian Conway
> "Sex and Violence: Social and Technical Lessons from the Perl 6  
> Project"
>
> Thursday, 4 October 2007, 7:00pm
>
> Auditorium of Qualcomm's Building Q
> 6455 Lusk Blvd.
> San Diego, CA 92121
>
> San Diego Perl Mongers is proud to present Damian Conway!  One night
> only in San Diego at Qualcomm's Building Q Auditorium.  Come and enjoy
> as he presents "Sex and Violence: Social and Technical Lessons from
> the Perl 6 Project" the latest in a long line of presentations to  
> amuse
> and excite your brain, your wits, and your Perl!
>
> Please, invite any and all people that may be interested in attending.
> The San Diego Perl Mongers look forward to meeting all of you there.
> _______________________________________________
> San-Diego-pm mailing list
> San-Diego-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/san-diego-pm