From Dirk at Finches.com  Mon Jan  2 07:28:18 2006
From: Dirk at Finches.com (Dirk)
Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 08:28:18 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] 2D graphics scripting
Message-ID: <1136215698.17345.14.camel@moisture.example.com>

My 11 year-old nephew draws successions of war games with pencil and
paper.  I explained to him about playing out these scenarios by rotating
and translating desktop-like icons on a computer screen.  He's very
interested in the idea.

        I've been looking on CPAN.org and sourceforge.net for such a 2D
system using perl.  I'd have to learn the rudiments of it myself to pass
it to him.  Where should I start?

Thanks,
Dirk



From Dirk at Finches.com  Tue Jan  3 05:54:07 2006
From: Dirk at Finches.com (Dirk)
Date: Tue, 03 Jan 2006 06:54:07 -0700
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] 2D graphics scripting
In-Reply-To: <441079bd0601022127n212b52e2w8b9db3176843935f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1136215698.17345.14.camel@moisture.example.com>
	<441079bd0601022127n212b52e2w8b9db3176843935f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1136296447.17345.33.camel@moisture.example.com>


By rotating I meant rotating an image around a point.  I guess I have a
wishful notion that a few lines in perl could loop through and move an
icon up-down & left-right, while rotating it x degrees clock-wise.

I'll take a look at the module and the website you mentioned.

Thanks,
Dirk


On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 21:27 -0800, David Romano wrote:
> On 1/2/06, Dirk <Dirk at finches.com> wrote:
> > My 11 year-old nephew draws successions of war games with pencil and
> > paper.  I explained to him about playing out these scenarios by rotating
> > and translating desktop-like icons on a computer screen.  He's very
> > interested in the idea.
> >
> >         I've been looking on CPAN.org and sourceforge.net for such a 2D
> > system using perl.  I'd have to learn the rudiments of it myself to pass
> > it to him.  Where should I start?


> Umm, what is it that you are exactly looking for? A 2D graphics
> interface for your nephew to draw the successions digitally? I can
> only think of perl/tk [http://perltk.org]. I'm not in to wargaming, so
> I'm probably not much help.  "Rotating" as in rotating the player?
> Maybe Games::Sequential will help?
> [http://search.cpan.org/~stig/Games-AlphaBeta-0.4.6/]
> 
> Cheers,
> David


From markj at matzsoft.com  Tue Jan  3 07:45:28 2006
From: markj at matzsoft.com (Mark T. Johnson)
Date: Tue, 3 Jan 2006 07:45:28 -0800
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] 2D graphics scripting
In-Reply-To: <1136296447.17345.33.camel@moisture.example.com>
References: <1136215698.17345.14.camel@moisture.example.com>
	<441079bd0601022127n212b52e2w8b9db3176843935f@mail.gmail.com>
	<1136296447.17345.33.camel@moisture.example.com>
Message-ID: <a06230901bfe04c5d32d5@[192.168.2.110]>

I have had success using Image::Magick 
(http://search.cpan.org/~jcristy/PerlMagick-6.24/Magick.pm ) to 
create PNG files.  It may take more than a few lines of Perl to do 
what you want.


>By rotating I meant rotating an image around a point.  I guess I have a
>wishful notion that a few lines in perl could loop through and move an
>icon up-down & left-right, while rotating it x degrees clock-wise.
>
>I'll take a look at the module and the website you mentioned.
>
>Thanks,
>Dirk
>
>
>On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 21:27 -0800, David Romano wrote:
>>  On 1/2/06, Dirk <Dirk at finches.com> wrote:
>>  > My 11 year-old nephew draws successions of war games with pencil and
>>  > paper.  I explained to him about playing out these scenarios by rotating
>>  > and translating desktop-like icons on a computer screen.  He's very
>>  > interested in the idea.
>>  >
>>  >         I've been looking on CPAN.org and sourceforge.net for such a 2D
>>  > system using perl.  I'd have to learn the rudiments of it myself to pass
>>  > it to him.  Where should I start?
>
>
>>  Umm, what is it that you are exactly looking for? A 2D graphics
>>  interface for your nephew to draw the successions digitally? I can
>>  only think of perl/tk [http://perltk.org]. I'm not in to wargaming, so
>>  I'm probably not much help.  "Rotating" as in rotating the player?
>>  Maybe Games::Sequential will help?
>>  [http://search.cpan.org/~stig/Games-AlphaBeta-0.4.6/]
>>
>>  Cheers,
>>  David
>
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From rkleeman at energoncube.net  Mon Jan  9 11:27:26 2006
From: rkleeman at energoncube.net (Bob Kleemann)
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 11:27:26 -0800
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Meeting Tonight!
Message-ID: <20060109192726.GC22105@energoncube.net>

Just a reminder folks, there is a meeting tonight, 7PM at the Panera
Bread on Mira Mesa Blvd.

From joel at fentin.com  Thu Jan 12 18:51:28 2006
From: joel at fentin.com (Joel Fentin)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 18:51:28 -0800
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] HTML to Perl
Message-ID: <43C715B0.10600@fentin.com>

An HTML script can be run with no server. If I click the OK button in 
the HTML script, I want to run a perl program. Can this be done without 
Apache?

The following haven't worked.

1. <FORM action="./xxx.pl" method="post">
Displays xxx.pl rather than run it.

2. <FORM action="../../../Perl/bin/perl.exe xxx.pl" method="post">
I get a message saying the file can't be found.

3. I have changed file associations such that perl runs any file with 
and extension of .pl. (This is in XP.)

4. I have tried variations of these with links instead of the OK button.
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From merlyn at stonehenge.com  Thu Jan 12 18:56:10 2006
From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Date: 12 Jan 2006 18:56:10 -0800
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] HTML to Perl
In-Reply-To: <43C715B0.10600@fentin.com>
References: <43C715B0.10600@fentin.com>
Message-ID: <86hd8825v9.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>

>>>>> "Joel" == Joel Fentin <joel at fentin.com> writes:

Joel> An HTML script can be run with no server. If I click the OK button in 
Joel> the HTML script, I want to run a perl program. Can this be done without 
Joel> Apache?

Yes.  But it takes IIS instead. :)

You need a server to run a CGI script.  It's that simple.

-- 
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<merlyn at stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/>
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From joel at fentin.com  Thu Jan 12 19:12:30 2006
From: joel at fentin.com (Joel Fentin)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 19:12:30 -0800
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] HTML to Perl
In-Reply-To: <86hd8825v9.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>
References: <43C715B0.10600@fentin.com> <86hd8825v9.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>
Message-ID: <43C71A9E.9090500@fentin.com>

Randal L. Schwartz wrote:

> You need a server to run a CGI script.  It's that simple.

I don't quite get it. If I shell to DOS and type:
perl xxx.pl, I get the desired result.

I guess you are saying that no such shelling is possible via the browser.
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From merlyn at stonehenge.com  Thu Jan 12 19:27:37 2006
From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Date: 12 Jan 2006 19:27:37 -0800
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] HTML to Perl
In-Reply-To: <43C71A9E.9090500@fentin.com>
References: <43C715B0.10600@fentin.com> <86hd8825v9.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>
	<43C71A9E.9090500@fentin.com>
Message-ID: <868xtk24eu.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>

>>>>> "Joel" == Joel Fentin <joel at fentin.com> writes:

Joel> Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
>> You need a server to run a CGI script.  It's that simple.

Joel> I don't quite get it. If I shell to DOS and type:
Joel> perl xxx.pl, I get the desired result.

That's not a CGI script. Unless it happens to be one, and then
CGI.pm simulates the actions.

I'd be very very very very worried if your *browser* would launch an *exe*
simply by referencing it as a file:// url.  Security be gone!

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From joel at fentin.com  Thu Jan 12 21:13:15 2006
From: joel at fentin.com (Joel Fentin)
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:13:15 -0800
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] HTML to Perl
In-Reply-To: <868xtk24eu.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>
References: <43C715B0.10600@fentin.com>
	<86hd8825v9.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>	<43C71A9E.9090500@fentin.com>
	<868xtk24eu.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com>
Message-ID: <43C736EB.7070301@fentin.com>

Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
>>>>>>"Joel" == Joel Fentin <joel at fentin.com> writes:
> 
> 
> Joel> Randal L. Schwartz wrote:
> 
>>>You need a server to run a CGI script.  It's that simple.
> 
> 
> Joel> I don't quite get it. If I shell to DOS and type:
> Joel> perl xxx.pl, I get the desired result.
> 
> That's not a CGI script. Unless it happens to be one, and then
> CGI.pm simulates the actions.
> 
> I'd be very very very very worried if your *browser* would launch an *exe*
> simply by referencing it as a file:// url.  Security be gone!
> 

Thank you
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From RSuh at aol.com  Thu Jan 12 21:22:21 2006
From: RSuh at aol.com (RSuh@aol.com)
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 00:22:21 EST
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] HTML to Perl
Message-ID: <fb.e15c6.30f8930d@aol.com>

I used ActiveState Perl on Windows. And you can embed perl code inside your 
HTML page, like you do javascript. So when someone clicks on a button, you can 
run your perl code, which performs a system() call to an external program (if 
ya like)

And you dont need a server.

I use this technique to build simple interfaces to command line programs (for 
the non-techies). 

i dont have the code off hand, so im not much help now.. but i promise to 
post it tomorrow. :)


heres a link to a PerlScript example and some docs.
http://aspn.activestate.com/ASPN/docs/ActivePerl/5.8/Components/Windows/PerlSc
ript.html

-rob
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From RSuh at aol.com  Mon Jan 16 21:09:34 2006
From: RSuh at aol.com (RSuh@aol.com)
Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 00:09:34 EST
Subject: [San-Diego-pm] HTML to Perl
Message-ID: <9a.34f81ece.30fdd60e@aol.com>

better late than never..

heres some html code which will run without a server..just save it to a file 
and open it up in Internet Explorer.
when you click the button on the form, it will run a dos command, on the 
local machine.

Its a simple way to create a cheap interface to dos commands, for non techy 
end users.

requires activestate perl win32. with PerlScript.



<HTML>
<HEAD>

<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="PerlScript">

sub yourSystem($)
{
    my $command = shift;
   system($command);
}

</SCRIPT>
</HEAD>

<BODY>

<form name="blah">

<INPUT type="button" VALUE="some description" ONCLICK=yourSystem('dir')>

</form>

</BODY>
</HTML>
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From knupp at mrms.navy.mil  Thu Jan 19 10:56:52 2006
From: knupp at mrms.navy.mil (Norm Knupp)
Date: Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:56:52 -0800
Subject: [San-Diego-pm]  Error compiling DB_File-1.814
Message-ID: <NEBBLBAELOHEGCGKDANKOEILGNAA.knupp@mrms.navy.mil>

I'm trying to compile and install DB_File-1.814 on my HP-UX 11.11 system
using gcc 3.3.  I have already successfully compiled and installed
BerkeleyDB-4.4, but now I get the following:

# perl Makefile.PL
Parsing config.in...
Looks Good.
Checking if your kit is complete...
Looks good
Writing Makefile for DB_File
# make
cp DB_File.pm blib/lib/DB_File.pm
AutoSplitting blib/lib/DB_File.pm (blib/lib/auto/DB_File)
        gcc -c  -I/usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.4/include  -D_HPUX_SOURCE
-fno-strict-aliasing -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE     -DVERSION=\"
1.814\"  -DXS_VERSION=\"1.814\" -fPIC
"-I/opt/perl5/lib/5.8.0/PA-RISC1.1/CORE"  -D_NOT_CORE  -DmDB_Prefix_t=size_t
-DmDB_Hash
_t=u_int32_t   version.c
        /usr/bin/perl /opt/perl5/lib/5.8.0/ExtUtils/xsubpp -noprototypes
-typemap /opt/perl5/lib/5.8.0/ExtUtils/typemap -type
map typemap  DB_File.xs > DB_File.xsc && mv DB_File.xsc DB_File.c
        gcc -c  -I/usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.4/include  -D_HPUX_SOURCE
-fno-strict-aliasing -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE     -DVERSION=\"
1.814\"  -DXS_VERSION=\"1.814\" -fPIC
"-I/opt/perl5/lib/5.8.0/PA-RISC1.1/CORE"  -D_NOT_CORE  -DmDB_Prefix_t=size_t
-DmDB_Hash
_t=u_int32_t   DB_File.c
Running Mkbootstrap for DB_File ()
        chmod 644 DB_File.bs
        rm -f blib/arch/auto/DB_File/DB_File.sl
        LD_RUN_PATH="/usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.4/lib" /usr/bin/ld  -b
-L/usr/local/lib version.o DB_File.o  -o blib/arch/auto/D
B_File/DB_File.sl   -L/usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.4/lib -ldb-4.4
/usr/bin/ld: Invalid loader fixup in text space needed in output file for
symbol "__db_associate_pp" in input file "/usr/loca
l/BerkeleyDB.4.4/lib/libdb-4.4.a(db_method.o)"
*** Error exit code 1

Stop.
#

Can anybody help?

Thanks,

Norm Knupp, MARMC/SWRMC
RMMCO DBA and Webmaster
(619) 556-4998 (DSN 312-526-4998)
knupp at mrms.navy.mil

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