From rkleeman at energoncube.net Mon Feb 14 14:32:21 2005 From: rkleeman at energoncube.net (Bob Kleemann) Date: Mon Feb 14 14:32:29 2005 Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Meeting *NOT* Tonight! Message-ID: <20050214223221.GD31849@energoncube.net> Hey Fellow Perl Mongers, The meeting that would normally be scheduled for tonight has been moved to Thursday on account of the holiday and a birthday. On Thursday I look forward to talking about life, love, perl, books, and anything else people think might be interesting. So I will see everyone on Thursday February 17, at 7PM at Panera Bread on Mira Mesa Blvd. I'll send out another reminder on Thursday. From rkleeman at energoncube.net Thu Feb 17 09:46:35 2005 From: rkleeman at energoncube.net (Bob Kleemann) Date: Thu Feb 17 09:46:45 2005 Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Meeting *IS* Tonight! In-Reply-To: <20050214223221.GD31849@energoncube.net> References: <20050214223221.GD31849@energoncube.net> Message-ID: <20050217174635.GH31849@energoncube.net> Fellow Perl Mongers, There is a meeting tonight! 7PM at the Panera Bread on Mira Mesa Blvd. Please come to talk about life, love, Perl, books, conferences, and anything else that people think might be interesting. Let me know if you need any help getting there. From knupp at mrms.navy.mil Fri Feb 25 09:55:51 2005 From: knupp at mrms.navy.mil (Norm Knupp) Date: Fri Feb 25 09:55:31 2005 Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Unix shell errors In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm seeing a number of Unix shell syntax errors in my Apache error_log file that I can't solve: sh: Syntax error at line 1 : `(' is not expected. This line occurs frequently throughout the error_log file, sometimes back-to-back, sometimes not. I'm running HP-UX 11.11 on an HP J210 work station (used as a web server). Apache is v1.3.27 and Perl is 5.8.0. I'm not running any pure shell scripts, but I do use the backquoted command syntax for some things, such as $now = `date +"%d-%b-%Y"`; I've tried to isolate the problem to one or more Perl programs by comparing the time stamps surrounding the error to when the programs were run, but so far I haven't found any that duplicates the error on my development system, which has the same hardware and software as my production system. My web application is the most probable source for this since I haven't updated HP-UX, Perl or Apache in several months and I updated my application on 1 January. I had seen the syntax errors prior to that, but after the 1st the occurrences increased dramatically. Any suggestions? Norm Knupp, MARMC/SWRMC RMMCO DBA and Webmaster (619) 556-4998 (DSN 526-4998) knupp@mrms.navy.mil -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: winmail.dat Type: application/ms-tnef Size: 2348 bytes Desc: not available Url : http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/san-diego-pm/attachments/20050225/c26511f9/winmail.bin From chris_radcliff at mac.com Fri Feb 25 11:26:54 2005 From: chris_radcliff at mac.com (Chris Radcliff) Date: Fri Feb 25 11:27:05 2005 Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Unix shell errors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3a3630a41e17ad9621b8fa070e777f24@mac.com> Hi Norm, Just a guess, but you may want to check the likely scripts for line-ending problems. If a script has the wrong end-of-line characters, the shell might not be able to parse the shebang line (#!/usr/bin/perl etc) to determine that it's a Perl script. Thus the confused error message. Cheers, ~chris On Feb 25, 2005, at 9:55 AM, Norm Knupp wrote: > I'm seeing a number of Unix shell syntax errors in my Apache error_log > file > that I can't solve: > > sh: Syntax error at line 1 : `(' is not expected. > > This line occurs frequently throughout the error_log file, sometimes > back-to-back, sometimes not. I'm running HP-UX 11.11 on an HP J210 work > station (used as a web server). Apache is v1.3.27 and Perl is 5.8.0. > I'm > not running any pure shell scripts, but I do use the backquoted command > syntax for some things, such as > > $now = `date +"%d-%b-%Y"`; > > I've tried to isolate the problem to one or more Perl programs by > comparing > the time stamps surrounding the error to when the programs were run, > but so > far I haven't found any that duplicates the error on my development > system, > which has the same hardware and software as my production system. My > web > application is the most probable source for this since I haven't > updated > HP-UX, Perl or Apache in several months and I updated my application > on 1 > January. I had seen the syntax errors prior to that, but after the > 1st the > occurrences increased dramatically. > > Any suggestions? From cabney at ucsd.edu Fri Feb 25 12:50:50 2005 From: cabney at ucsd.edu (C. Abney) Date: Fri Feb 25 12:33:25 2005 Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Unix shell errors In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1109364649.27616.75.camel@vespa.ucsd.edu> I thought apache would tell you exactly which scripts are producing the errors? I think this is how it works by default. I don't suppose it would be possible to change to a more controlled way of making system calls... Yours, Charles On Fri, 2005-02-25 at 09:55, Norm Knupp wrote: > I'm seeing a number of Unix shell syntax errors in my Apache error_log file > that I can't solve: > > sh: Syntax error at line 1 : `(' is not expected. > > This line occurs frequently throughout the error_log file, sometimes > back-to-back, sometimes not. I'm running HP-UX 11.11 on an HP J210 work > station (used as a web server). Apache is v1.3.27 and Perl is 5.8.0. I'm > not running any pure shell scripts, but I do use the backquoted command > syntax for some things, such as > > $now = `date +"%d-%b-%Y"`; > > I've tried to isolate the problem to one or more Perl programs by comparing > the time stamps surrounding the error to when the programs were run, but so > far I haven't found any that duplicates the error on my development system, > which has the same hardware and software as my production system. My web > application is the most probable source for this since I haven't updated > HP-UX, Perl or Apache in several months and I updated my application on 1 > January. I had seen the syntax errors prior to that, but after the 1st the > occurrences increased dramatically. > > Any suggestions? > > Norm Knupp, MARMC/SWRMC > RMMCO DBA and Webmaster > (619) 556-4998 (DSN 526-4998) > knupp@mrms.navy.mil > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > San-Diego-pm mailing list > San-Diego-pm@pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/san-diego-pm From merlyn at stonehenge.com Fri Feb 25 13:44:38 2005 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: Fri Feb 25 13:44:49 2005 Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Unix shell errors In-Reply-To: <1109364649.27616.75.camel@vespa.ucsd.edu> References: <1109364649.27616.75.camel@vespa.ucsd.edu> Message-ID: <867jkwiabd.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "C" == C Abney writes: C> I thought apache would tell you exactly which scripts are producing the C> errors? I think this is how it works by default. No, it just absorbs STDERR into the error_log. No indication of authorship. If this is mod_perl, you can add a handler that figures out that something is about to be handled by mod_cgi, and timestamps it in the error log. Hmm. that's a column. :) (>>TODO) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! From cabney at ucsd.edu Fri Feb 25 14:44:26 2005 From: cabney at ucsd.edu (C. Abney) Date: Fri Feb 25 14:26:56 2005 Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Unix shell errors In-Reply-To: <867jkwiabd.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> References: <1109364649.27616.75.camel@vespa.ucsd.edu> <867jkwiabd.fsf@blue.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <1109371466.27616.107.camel@vespa.ucsd.edu> On Fri, 2005-02-25 at 13:44, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > >>>>> "C" == C Abney writes: > > C> I thought apache would tell you exactly which scripts are producing the > C> errors? I think this is how it works by default. > > No, it just absorbs STDERR into the error_log. No indication of > authorship. You are right, I wasn't looking at the fact he wasn't handling STDERR of the shell because I never use backticks unless I'm guaranteed it won't generate errors (when is that you ask?) > If this is mod_perl, you can add a handler that figures out that > something is about to be handled by mod_cgi, and timestamps it > in the error log. Hmm. that's a column. :) (>>TODO) Offline I pointed him to perlipc... Yours, Charles From mmetzger at digitalworldnews.com Sat Feb 26 20:48:49 2005 From: mmetzger at digitalworldnews.com (Matthew Metzger) Date: Sat Feb 26 17:45:33 2005 Subject: [San-Diego-pm] Potential openings and reasonable salary Message-ID: <97241690292.20050226204849@digitalworldnews.com> Hello, I am writing to find what is felt to be a reasonable relative salary scale for a Perl developer in the San Diego area and the number of Jobs out there for one who programs in the language. I was in San Diego for a number of years but most of my work was with Microsoft tools/applications. In the past year I started back with Perl after a 4 year sabbatical from the language. I am really starting to get into it. Additionally, my long-running frustration with Microsoft products has hit its end with the release of the .net development environment. To put my experience into perspective, I have worked with Perl a total of around 3 years. 2 of them long ago, and one recent. I am well versed in MySQL, MSSQL, PHP, ASP & (.net) and favor XML as a description and communication protocol. My other skills lie in Photoshop, Flash(MX) and general web development. My overall experience as a developer, architect and team lead is approximately 6 to 7 years. I am not currently in San Diego, but am looking to return there within the year. I would not necessarily be looking for a lead position or anything like that. Just a general programming position. Any help with a guess at salary or availability of these type of jobs would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for your time and assistance. Matthew Metzger