From mike.vasquez at akamai.com Mon Oct 2 18:17:53 2000 From: mike.vasquez at akamai.com (Vasquez, Mike) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:20:12 2004 Subject: DBD Sysbase and CGI $q->popup_menu problem Message-ID: ~sdpm~ I am using DBD to access a Sybase Database and trying to get the syntax right to create the values of a popup menu. Currently I am doing this: $q->td($q->popup_menu(-name=>'engr', -value=>[ sub { foreach $i (@fullnames){ $name .= $i; } return $name; }->()] ) ), # The above just gives me a long list and not a dropdown menu. When I do the following, it works. $q->td($q->popup_menu(-name=>'engr', -value=>['Michael Vasquez', 'John Smith', 'Martha Smith'] ) ), # Any suggestions? Michael Vasquez Sr. Webcast Manager Akamai Technologies (858) 909-3106 (619) 252-4999 (cell) mike.vasquez@akamai.com http://www.akamai.com/ Nasdaq: AKAM ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. From rkleeman at neta.com Mon Oct 2 18:31:19 2000 From: rkleeman at neta.com (Bobby Kleemann) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:20:12 2004 Subject: DBD Sysbase and CGI $q->popup_menu problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ~sdpm~ If you look you'l see the reason you are getting a long list instead of a drop down list is because of the way you are constructing your "list". It's actually not a list but a single string with all the values of @fullnames in it. This should work: $q->td($q->popup_menu(-name=>'engr',-value=>[@fullnames])); - or - $q->td($q->popup_menu(-name=>'engr',-value=>\@fullnames)); _ _ _ Bobby Kleemann http://www.neta.com/~rkleeman/ On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, Vasquez, Mike wrote: > ~sdpm~ > I am using DBD to access a Sybase Database and trying to get the syntax > right to create the values of a popup menu. Currently I am doing this: > > $q->td($q->popup_menu(-name=>'engr', > -value=>[ > > sub { > foreach $i > (@fullnames){ > $name .= $i; > } > return $name; > }->()] > ) > ), # > > The above just gives me a long list and not a dropdown menu. > > When I do the following, it works. > > $q->td($q->popup_menu(-name=>'engr', > -value=>['Michael Vasquez', > 'John Smith', 'Martha Smith'] > ) > ), # > > Any suggestions? > > > Michael Vasquez > Sr. Webcast Manager > Akamai Technologies > (858) 909-3106 > (619) 252-4999 (cell) > mike.vasquez@akamai.com > http://www.akamai.com/ > Nasdaq: AKAM > > > ~sdpm~ > > The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org > > List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org > > If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, > you can send mail to with the following > command in the body of your email message: > > unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list > > If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, > (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the > list itself) send email to . > This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need > to contact a human. > ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. From webtemp at ucsd-pps.ucsd.edu Tue Oct 3 10:43:34 2000 From: webtemp at ucsd-pps.ucsd.edu (Michael DeVicariis) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:20:12 2004 Subject: DBI / MySQL problem Message-ID: <002101c02d50$b02014e0$edc3ef84@pps195-237.ucsd.edu> ~sdpm~ All, I have the MySQL server installed on our NT server. I can connect just fine on my windows machine through MyODBC and the command line client. When I run my perl script (via command line), I get the following: >perl -w mysql_test.pl Can't locate loadable object for module DBI in @INC (@INC contains: C:/Perl/lib C:/Perl/site/lib .) at C:/Perl/site/lib/DBI.pm line 168 BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at C:/Perl/site/lib/DBI.pm line 168. Compilation failed in require at mysql_test.pl line 9. BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at mysql_test.pl line 9. ########### script below ################ # mysql_test.pl # # Description: #!d:\perl\bin\perl.exe $|=1; use DBI(); #use DBD(); $query = "select * from inventory.employees"; #&get_today; # Connect to the database. my $dbh = DBI->connect("DBI:mysql:database=inventory;host=aps-syb2", "user", "password", {'RaiseError' => 1}); # Disconnect from the database. $dbh->disconnect(); Any suggestions? Michael DeVicariis Web Administrator/Developer Programmer/Analyst UCSD Auxiliary & Plant Services (858) 534-0700 ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. From joel at cts.com Tue Oct 3 13:45:58 2000 From: joel at cts.com (Joel Fentin) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:20:12 2004 Subject: DBI / MySQL problem In-Reply-To: <002101c02d50$b02014e0$edc3ef84@pps195-237.ucsd.edu> Message-ID: <3.0.4.32.20001003114558.007c0250@crash.cts.com> ~sdpm~ At 08:43 AM 10/3/00 -0700, Michael DeVicariis wrote: >~sdpm~ >All, > >I have the MySQL server installed on our NT server. I can connect just fine >on my windows machine through MyODBC and the command line client. When I >run my perl script (via command line), I get the following: The super obvious: 1. The shebang should be the first line of the program. A -w at the end of it is good practice if you want to see readable warning. 2. You load $query but you never use it. -- Joel Fentin tel: 760-749-8863 FAX: 760-749-8864 email: joel@fentin.com web: Fentin.com ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. From mike.vasquez at akamai.com Tue Oct 3 18:00:18 2000 From: mike.vasquez at akamai.com (Vasquez, Mike) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:20:12 2004 Subject: DBD Sysbase and CGI $q->popup_menu problem Message-ID: ~sdpm~ The second part you listed belowed Also, now that I got this to work and also the default value to work in the drop down menu. I'm trying to figure out when you click and change the default value to another value, which way would be the best to approach this and also I will need to update the table in the database as well. Michael Vasquez Webcast Engineer Akamai Technologies (858) 909-3106 (619) 252-4999 (cell) mike.vasquez@akamai.com http://www.akamai.com/ Nasdaq: AKAM -----Original Message----- From: Bobby Kleemann [mailto:rkleeman@neta.com] Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 4:31 PM To: Vasquez, Mike Cc: 'perl-mongers'; 'dbi-users@isc.org' Subject: Re: DBD Sysbase and CGI $q->popup_menu problem If you look you'l see the reason you are getting a long list instead of a drop down list is because of the way you are constructing your "list". It's actually not a list but a single string with all the values of @fullnames in it. This should work: $q->td($q->popup_menu(-name=>'engr',-value=>[@fullnames])); - or - $q->td($q->popup_menu(-name=>'engr',-value=>\@fullnames)); _ _ _ Bobby Kleemann http://www.neta.com/~rkleeman/ On Mon, 2 Oct 2000, Vasquez, Mike wrote: > ~sdpm~ > I am using DBD to access a Sybase Database and trying to get the syntax > right to create the values of a popup menu. Currently I am doing this: > > $q->td($q->popup_menu(-name=>'engr', > -value=>[ > > sub { > foreach $i > (@fullnames){ > $name .= $i; > } > return $name; > }->()] > ) > ), # > > The above just gives me a long list and not a dropdown menu. > > When I do the following, it works. > > $q->td($q->popup_menu(-name=>'engr', > -value=>['Michael Vasquez', > 'John Smith', 'Martha Smith'] > ) > ), # > > Any suggestions? > > > Michael Vasquez > Sr. Webcast Manager > Akamai Technologies > (858) 909-3106 > (619) 252-4999 (cell) > mike.vasquez@akamai.com > http://www.akamai.com/ > Nasdaq: AKAM > > > ~sdpm~ > > The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org > > List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org > > If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, > you can send mail to with the following > command in the body of your email message: > > unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list > > If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, > (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the > list itself) send email to . > This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need > to contact a human. > ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. From rkleeman at neta.com Thu Oct 5 18:34:17 2000 From: rkleeman at neta.com (Bobby Kleemann) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:20:12 2004 Subject: Perl Conference 2001 and 2002 Message-ID: ~sdpm~ >From : http://use.perl.org/features/00/10/05/1440225.shtml I had the morning off, and Mark Jacobsen and I talked about the 2001 Open Source Convention. It's going to be in San Diego, and the hotel we'll be at has even more space for us to use. Not only that, but we have an extra day: the conference will be for five days. We're going to have fewer parallel Perl tracks, but over three days instead of two. I took a show of hands at the last conference, and there was overwhelming support for this. We're in San Diego in 2002 as well _ _ _ Bobby Kleemann http://www.neta.com/~rkleeman/ ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. From brucet at onebox.com Fri Oct 6 00:29:41 2000 From: brucet at onebox.com (Bruce Timberlake) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:20:12 2004 Subject: Univ of Perl classes Message-ID: <20001006052856.ERAI321.mta03.onebox.com@onebox.com> ~sdpm~ FYI -- I just took some of the University of Perl classes in Seattle: Databases and Perl, Tips/Tricks of the Wizards, and mod_perl. All definitely worthwhile! Nate Torkington taught the mod_perl class -- very good teacher. Plus Randal Schwartz signed my Camel Book! Tips and Tricks was *very* worthwhile -- I never knew globs could be so useful! Sorry -- this info probably isn't much help to those of you who are right now taking the classes in LA. But if you're not, the Atlanta and New York sessions later this month still have seats, I believe. (http://conferences.oreilly.com/ for more info!) And we get the 20% discount for being Perl Monger members. I mentioned to him about SD Perl Mongers, and he seemed genuinely interested in coming by to give a talk whenever his schedule would permit... - Bruce __________________________________________________ FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. From webtemp at ucsd-pps.ucsd.edu Fri Oct 6 13:25:28 2000 From: webtemp at ucsd-pps.ucsd.edu (Michael DeVicariis) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:20:12 2004 Subject: web http referrer Message-ID: <001701c02fc2$cd66c840$edc3ef84@pps195-237.ucsd.edu> ~sdpm~ In JavaScript you can use document.referer to get the server that the viewer came from. How do you do this in perl? Michael DeVicariis Web Administrator/Developer Programmer/Analyst UCSD Auxiliary & Plant Services (858) 534-0700 ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. From rkleeman at neta.com Fri Oct 6 13:37:56 2000 From: rkleeman at neta.com (Bobby Kleemann) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:20:12 2004 Subject: web http referrer In-Reply-To: <001701c02fc2$cd66c840$edc3ef84@pps195-237.ucsd.edu> Message-ID: ~sdpm~ From: http://stein.cshl.org/WWW/software/CGI/cgi_docs.html#environment referer() Return the URL of the page the browser was viewing prior to fetching your script. Not available for all browsers. _ _ _ Bobby Kleemann http://www.neta.com/~rkleeman/ On Fri, 6 Oct 2000, Michael DeVicariis wrote: > ~sdpm~ > In JavaScript you can use document.referer to get the server that the viewer > came from. > > How do you do this in perl? > > > > Michael DeVicariis > Web Administrator/Developer > Programmer/Analyst > UCSD Auxiliary & Plant Services > (858) 534-0700 > > > > ~sdpm~ > > The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org > > List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org > > If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, > you can send mail to with the following > command in the body of your email message: > > unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list > > If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, > (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the > list itself) send email to . > This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need > to contact a human. > ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. From webtemp at ucsd-pps.ucsd.edu Fri Oct 6 15:47:31 2000 From: webtemp at ucsd-pps.ucsd.edu (Michael DeVicariis) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:20:12 2004 Subject: FW: web http referrer Message-ID: <000801c02fd6$a5a47820$edc3ef84@pps195-237.ucsd.edu> ~sdpm~ Thank you to all who replied. I forgot about the %ENV variable. I looked it up in the new camel book and didn't find it. Michael DeVicariis Web Administrator/Developer Programmer/Analyst UCSD Auxiliary & Plant Services (858) 534-0700 -----Original Message----- From: owner-san-diego-pm-list@pm.org ~sdpm~ In JavaScript you can use document.referer to get the server that the viewer came from. How do you do this in perl? ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. From jeff at soapzone.com Fri Oct 6 16:25:01 2000 From: jeff at soapzone.com (Jeff Jungblut) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:20:12 2004 Subject: web http referrer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ~sdpm~ on 10/6/00 11:37 AM, Bobby Kleemann at rkleeman@neta.com wrote: > referer() > Return the URL of the page the browser was viewing prior to > fetching your script. Not available for all browsers. This assumes one is using CGI.pm. If you're not, $ENV{'HTTP_REFERER'} will give what you want. -- Jeff Jungblut, jeff@soapzone.com http://soapzone.com/ ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. From eugene at securityarchitects.com Sun Oct 8 18:12:49 2000 From: eugene at securityarchitects.com (Eugene Tsyrklevich) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:20:12 2004 Subject: perligata Message-ID: <20001008161248.B9160@securityarchitects.com> ~sdpm~ http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~damian/papers/HTML/Perligata.html ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. From joel at cts.com Wed Oct 18 10:38:12 2000 From: joel at cts.com (Joel Fentin) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:20:12 2004 Subject: mtg tonite Message-ID: <3.0.4.32.20001018083812.007bb770@crash.cts.com> ~sdpm~ I got no spam. I hope and presume the meeting is a go. -- Joel Fentin tel: 760-749-8863 FAX: 760-749-8864 email: joel@fentin.com web: Fentin.com ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. From canetguy at home.com Wed Oct 18 11:31:16 2000 From: canetguy at home.com (Garrett Casey) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:20:12 2004 Subject: Meeting Tonight Message-ID: <200010180931160089.0ED89CB1@mail> ~sdpm~ Thankx Joel! Yes. Our monthly get-together is tonight. The location is our normal meeting place: 8380 Miramar Mall 92121. Go through the building's main doors, go upstairs, and the conference romo is to the left. http://SanDiego.pm.org has a map to this location. This month will just be an open discussion. Bring any code, questions, comments or suggestions. We'll talk about anything you want to talk about... See you all there! -Garrett Casey http://SanDiego.pm.org ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. From brucet at onebox.com Thu Oct 19 02:11:28 2000 From: brucet at onebox.com (Bruce Timberlake) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:20:12 2004 Subject: Hey Anthony! Message-ID: <20001019071128.FDVN279.mta10.onebox.com@onebox.com> ~sdpm~ After I got home from the meeting tonight, I remembered the root password for our server. Email me directly and I'll send you back your new password... __________________________________________________ FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. From canetguy at home.com Fri Oct 20 17:15:46 2000 From: canetguy at home.com (Garrett Casey) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:20:12 2004 Subject: perl mongers: mp3 conversion Message-ID: <200010201515460415.059263A6@mail> ~sdpm~ This really isn't a perl question.. It is more targeted to guys familiar with MP3 files.. I have a simple voice recording that was saved as a wave file then converted to MP3. It is basically an 8bit mono recording (nothing but someone talking). I want to burn a "music" CD so that I can listen to this recording in my car. The burner say that the recording must be a 16 bit stereo recording. So, what is the easiest way to convert an 8bit mono MP3 to a 16bit Stereo MP3? -Garrett ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. From rkleeman at neta.com Fri Oct 27 16:19:15 2000 From: rkleeman at neta.com (Bobby Kleemann) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:20:12 2004 Subject: FreakGeekBall (fwd) Message-ID: ~sdpm~ ----- Original Message ----- > Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 01:01:58 -0400 > Message-Id: <200010180501.BAA27428@boston.aquent.com> > To: webdesign@art2web.net > From: dabell@aquent.com > Subject: FreakGeekBall > > Want to have some pre-Halloween fun? > > Techniquelle presents the... > > FreakyGeekBall > http://www.FreakyGeekBall.com/ > > in association with WebSanDiego.org > > One evening of music, fun, and networking... > for San Diego's geeks -- web, tech, and art > --and the people who love them. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Date: Friday, October 27th, 2000 > Time: 8 p.m. until midnight > Venue: Horton Grand Hotel, Gaslamp Quarter > Downtown San Diego, California > Cost: $15 Online with PayPal > $20 at the Door > RSVP, Tickets, Maps, & More Information at: > http://www.FreakyGeekBall.com/ > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Please get to know our Platinum Sponsors! > Aquent http://www.aquent.com > Craigslist.org http://www.sandiego.craigslist.org > MP3.com http://www.MP3.com > > and our Gold Level Sponsors: > Qualcomm/Eudora http://www.eudora.com > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > [feel free to forward this message] > Questions about the event, sponsorship opportunities, or > anything else? > Check the website http://www.FreakyGeekBall.com/ > or send email to INFO@FreakyGeekBall.com > ------------------------------------------------------ > Don't want to receive this information? E-mail dabell@aquent.com and you will be removed from the list. ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human.