From joel at cts.com Mon Nov 1 10:54:32 1999 From: joel at cts.com (Joel Fentin) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:02 2004 Subject: personal server portability Message-ID: <3.0.4.32.19991101085432.007acc40@cts.com> ~sdpm~ I made a test file called test.plx. It plasters a few words and a button onto the browser. It will run only in c:\program files\apache group\cgi-bin. The browser wants to down load (not run) it if it is anywhere else. I presume there is a way to change this. Nothing I have tried has worked. -- Joel Fentin tel: 760-749-8863 FAX: 760-749-8864 email: joel@cts.com web: http://efm.simplenet.com ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. From cabney at cyberpass.net Tue Nov 2 20:58:29 1999 From: cabney at cyberpass.net (C. Abney) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:02 2004 Subject: personal server portability In-Reply-To: <3.0.4.32.19991101085432.007acc40@cts.com> Message-ID: ~sdpm~ This is a web-server configuration issue. If you are using apache you have something like: Options None AllowOverride None defined for the root directory and lower, and something like: AllowOverride None Options ExecCGI for your cgi-bin. I'll bet you can figure out the rest (remember to restart the server after any configuration changes.) CA -- Einstein himself said that God doesn't roll dice. But he was wrong. And in fact, anyone who has played role-playing games knows that God probably had to roll quite a few dice to come up with a character like Einstein. -- Larry Wall C. Abney On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, Joel Fentin wrote: > ~sdpm~ > I made a test file called test.plx. It plasters a few words and a > button onto the browser. It will run only in c:\program > files\apache group\cgi-bin. The browser wants to down load (not > run) it if it is anywhere else. > > I presume there is a way to change this. Nothing I have tried has > worked. > -- > Joel Fentin tel: 760-749-8863 FAX: 760-749-8864 > > email: joel@cts.com web: http://efm.simplenet.com > ~sdpm~ > > The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org > > List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org > > If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, > you can send mail to with the following > command in the body of your email message: > > unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list > > If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, > (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the > list itself) send email to . > This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need > to contact a human. > ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. From joel at cts.com Thu Nov 4 12:25:43 1999 From: joel at cts.com (Joel Fentin) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:02 2004 Subject: Paranoia Message-ID: <3.0.4.32.19991104102543.007b6490@cts.com> ~sdpm~ The crypt() function is unimplemented due to excessive paranoia. at test.plx line 1. ================================= Here is test.plx: $ep=crypt("aaa","bbb"); print $ep; ================================= Two questions: 1. What does it want? 2. Where should I have gone to find the answer to the first question? -- Joel Fentin tel: 760-749-8863 FAX: 760-749-8864 email: joel@cts.com web: http://efm.simplenet.com ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. From rick at sd.aonix.com Thu Nov 4 18:33:12 1999 From: rick at sd.aonix.com (Rick Schlientz) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:02 2004 Subject: Where to host Perl scripts? In-Reply-To: <5D739FADC699D111A4A500A0C90638430BEC08@gargoyle.sf.aonix.com> Message-ID: <5D739FADC699D111A4A500A0C906384309CDA2@gargoyle.sf.aonix.com> ~sdpm~ I asked this at the last meeting, but there wasn't any real consensus... Where is a good place to host a "home page" for a Perl based test and build harness that I have built and used over the years? I've placed the code under the GNU copyleft and need to get it out where everyone can use it. The sudden urgency comes from a consulting job I'm starting tomorrow. If I can't prove to their lawyer that this code is already out in the "public domain" he will insist it must be work for hire and they get exclusive rights. No Way! Thanks! Rick ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. From rkleeman at neta.com Thu Nov 4 19:11:14 1999 From: rkleeman at neta.com (Bobby Kleemann) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:02 2004 Subject: Where to host Perl scripts? In-Reply-To: <5D739FADC699D111A4A500A0C906384309CDA2@gargoyle.sf.aonix.com> Message-ID: ~sdpm~ There should be a scripts section of CPAN. If not, you could always post a link to it in the newsgroups. If that doesn't work, you could always post it here and we have record of it being available to the general public. _ _ _ Bobby Kleemann http://www.neta.com/~rkleeman/ On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Rick Schlientz wrote: > ~sdpm~ > I asked this at the last meeting, but there wasn't any real consensus... > > Where is a good place to host a "home page" for a Perl based test and build > harness that I have built and used over the years? I've placed the code > under the GNU copyleft and need to get it out where everyone can use it. > > The sudden urgency comes from a consulting job I'm starting tomorrow. If I > can't prove to their lawyer that this code is already out in the "public > domain" he will insist it must be work for hire and they get exclusive > rights. No Way! > > Thanks! > Rick > > ~sdpm~ > > The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org > > List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org > > If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, > you can send mail to with the following > command in the body of your email message: > > unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list > > If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, > (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the > list itself) send email to . > This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need > to contact a human. > ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. From preeper at cts.com Thu Nov 4 19:14:09 1999 From: preeper at cts.com (Jerry Preeper) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:02 2004 Subject: Where to host Perl scripts? In-Reply-To: <5D739FADC699D111A4A500A0C906384309CDA2@gargoyle.sf.aonix.c om> References: <5D739FADC699D111A4A500A0C90638430BEC08@gargoyle.sf.aonix.com> Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.19991104171409.0449b180@crash.cts.com> ~sdpm~ You can probably find something in yahoo's list of free web pages at http://dir.yahoo.com/Business_and_Economy/Companies/Internet_Services/Web_Se rvices/Website_Hosting/Free_Web_Pages/ or in this directory where you can search by the features you are looking for http://www.freewebspace.net/ jp >~sdpm~ >I asked this at the last meeting, but there wasn't any real consensus... > >Where is a good place to host a "home page" for a Perl based test and build >harness that I have built and used over the years? I've placed the code >under the GNU copyleft and need to get it out where everyone can use it. > >The sudden urgency comes from a consulting job I'm starting tomorrow. If I >can't prove to their lawyer that this code is already out in the "public >domain" he will insist it must be work for hire and they get exclusive >rights. No Way! > >Thanks! >Rick > >~sdpm~ > >The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org > >List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org > >If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, >you can send mail to with the following >command in the body of your email message: > > unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list > >If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, >(if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the >list itself) send email to . >This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need >to contact a human. > > > ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. From joel at cts.com Thu Nov 4 21:46:56 1999 From: joel at cts.com (Joel Fentin) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:03 2004 Subject: Paranoia (revisited) Message-ID: <3.0.4.32.19991104194656.007c5390@cts.com> ~sdpm~ Nobody answered. My current thinking is that the paranoia message came from the fact that the crypt function relies on some UNIX command, but unavailable in DOS/Windoz. -- Joel Fentin tel: 760-749-8863 FAX: 760-749-8864 email: joel@cts.com web: http://efm.simplenet.com ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. From astewart at spawar.navy.mil Fri Nov 5 10:45:09 1999 From: astewart at spawar.navy.mil (Alan Stewart) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:03 2004 Subject: Paranoia (revisited) In-Reply-To: <3.0.4.32.19991104194656.007c5390@cts.com> Message-ID: <19991105164509.UOHA20951.lh2.rdc1.sdca.home.com@cx465707-a> On 4 Nov 99, at 19:46, Joel Fentin wrote: > ~sdpm~ > Nobody answered. > > My current thinking is that the paranoia message came from the > fact that the crypt function relies on some UNIX command, but > unavailable in DOS/Windoz. > The crypt function is a built-in Perl function that does the same thing that a Unix command does. Some people think that any crypto function is a crypto-munition and covered by US export laws. In order to make their Perl stuff exportable outside the US, they leave crypt out. This is bogus for several reasons. This paranoia has been propagated thru all the Win32 implementations (and maybe others). All or most of the Perl diagnostic messages are elaborated in perldiag.pod (found in your lib/Pod dir). The following para is from there: =item The crypt() function is unimplemented due to excessive paranoia (F) Configure couldn't find the crypt() function on your machine, probably because your vendor didn't supply it, probably because they think the U.S. Government thinks it's a secret, or at least that they will continue to pretend that it is. And if you quote me on that, I will deny it. In any case, there is a "replacement" module available on CPAN (and maybe at ActiveState): Crypt-UnixCrypt-1_0_tar.gz that is portable Perl-only code. Since it is small, I will attach it here. If you are not prepared to Make/Install, just create a lib/Crypt dir and copy the UnixCrypt.pm there. At the beginning of any script that needs crypt( ), include the lines: BEGIN { $Crypt::UnixCrpyt::OVERRIDE_BUILTIN = 1 } use Crypt::UnixCrypt; and all will be well. --------------------------------------------------------------- Alan Stewart )-[]-( Electronics Engineer Code D621 ~ ~ Network Operations SPAWARSYSCEN ~ ~ \ Satellite Communications 53560 Hull St ( ~ ~ ) tel (619)524-3625 San Diego,CA __|___ /| fax (619)524-2607 92152-5001 ^\____/^^^^^^\ __| |_ astewart@spawar.navy.mil ------------^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^\__|______|_------------------------ -------------- next part -------------- The following section of this message contains a file attachment prepared for transmission using the Internet MIME message format. If you are using Pegasus Mail, or any another MIME-compliant system, you should be able to save it or view it from within your mailer. 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If you get an opportunity, read the docs and create some test scripts to bring to the meeting. Directions and more information is located at http://SanDiego.pm.org See you tonight!!! -Garrett ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. From wntrwolf at nephillim.net Wed Nov 24 17:47:50 1999 From: wntrwolf at nephillim.net (-{WinterWolf}-) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:03 2004 Subject: Problems with stat() Message-ID: <383C7926.2285BC0C@nephillim.net> ~sdpm~ I have a question maybe someone can answer because I can't seem to find a reference to it anywhere. How do I convert the file MODE returned by stat() into a MODE I can use with chmod()? For example, I have a set of files that when stat()'ed return 34056 as their MODE. The MODE returned by stat() supposedly includes both file type and permissions. Still, even counting the 3 as a file type (regular file) that still leaves me with 4(set uid)056. When I do an ls -l on the files, their permissions show as -r----s--- which in my mind converts to 2(set gid)410 . . . doesn't make any sense. Anyone have any ideas? -- Regards, MRDII -- Mario R. Delgado aka WinterWolf wntrwolf@nephillim.net http://www.nephillim.net/theden "I am so smart, I am so smart, S-M-R-T . . . I mean, S-M-A-R-T!" Homer J. Simpson -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.12 GCS/FA d-@ s+:+ a- C++$ UBHS++++$ P+++$>++++$ L- E--- W+++$ N+ o? K? w !O !M V-- PS+ PE Y+ PGP t(+) 5 X+(++) R+ tv+ b++ DI++ D+ G e+>++ h---- r+++ y++++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human. From eugenet at mailcity.com Wed Nov 24 20:23:15 1999 From: eugenet at mailcity.com (Eugene Tsyrklevich) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:21:03 2004 Subject: Problems with stat() Message-ID: ~sdpm~ # perl -we 'printf "%04o\n", +(stat("/etc/passwd"))[2] & 0777' 0644 see 'perldoc -f stat' for more info cheers, Eugene. Get your FREE Email at http://mailcity.lycos.com Get your PERSONALIZED START PAGE at http://my.lycos.com ~sdpm~ The posting address is: san-diego-pm-list@hfb.pm.org List requests should be sent to: majordomo@hfb.pm.org If you ever want to remove yourself from this mailing list, you can send mail to with the following command in the body of your email message: unsubscribe san-diego-pm-list If you ever need to get in contact with the owner of the list, (if you have trouble unsubscribing, or have questions about the list itself) send email to . This is the general rule for most mailing lists when you need to contact a human.