From daoswald at gmail.com  Fri May  3 21:24:53 2013
From: daoswald at gmail.com (David Oswald)
Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 22:24:53 -0600
Subject: [Saltlake-pm] Announcing: SL-PM now a member of O'Reily User Group
 and Professional Association Program
Message-ID: <CAKTcQ945+xQOcLutSzPK9c=PCmQe9fkAVZBo=CB=XKxHTf3wog@mail.gmail.com>

Salt Lake Perl Mongers have been granted membership in the O'Reilly
User Group and Professional Association Program.

What does this mean to you as a Perl Monger?

1) You can now purchase O'Reilly ebooks at 50% off, or print books at
40% off.  (Promo code: DSUG at the O'Reilly website).

2) If you're interested in writing a review for one of O'Reilly's
books and posting it to Amazon, O'Reilly, B&N, Slashdot, or even a
"reviews" section of the Salt Lake Perl Mongers website, let me know.
O'Reilly may provide you with a copy for review purposes, and I'm the
contact person for making such requests.

There are a few additional details and perks that I'll mention in our
next meeting.

Enjoy!

Dave


--

David Oswald
daoswald at gmail.com

From daoswald at gmail.com  Sun May 12 22:26:26 2013
From: daoswald at gmail.com (David Oswald)
Date: Sun, 12 May 2013 23:26:26 -0600
Subject: [Saltlake-pm] Reminder: Salt Lake Perl Mongers meet Tuesday
Message-ID: <CAKTcQ94vCLdzsZvggofk6uS=ctN2oEaCKGoACJDjtkXrBFk9sA@mail.gmail.com>

The Salt Lake Perl Mongers May meeting will be this Tuesday, May 14th
at 7:00pm.

The meeting will be hosted at Bluehost's Draper office.
12159 South Bus Park Drive, Suite 160
Draper, UT 84020

Topic:
Intro to Dancer -- Gordon Child
We will start out with "Hello world", walk through primary features
such as routing, and writing handlers. Finally, we'll go over popular
plugins for common uses such as databases and RBAC.


Please come if you can.  RSVP is appreciated but not required.


See you all there,

Dave

--

David Oswald
daoswald at gmail.com

From fozzmoo at gmail.com  Tue May 14 07:51:23 2013
From: fozzmoo at gmail.com (Doran L. Barton)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 08:51:23 -0600
Subject: [Saltlake-pm] Reminder: Salt Lake Perl Mongers meet Tuesday
In-Reply-To: <CAKTcQ94vCLdzsZvggofk6uS=ctN2oEaCKGoACJDjtkXrBFk9sA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKTcQ94vCLdzsZvggofk6uS=ctN2oEaCKGoACJDjtkXrBFk9sA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1415452.DLmaoXFEAW@thinker>

On Sunday, May 12, 2013 11:26:26 PM David Oswald wrote:
> RSVP is appreciated but not required.

I'll be there.

-- 
Doran L. Barton <fozzmoo at gmail.com> - Linux, Perl, Web, good fun, and more!
 "Dangerous! Don't screw off!"
    -- Notice engraved on rear of computer


From gordon at gordonchild.com  Tue May 14 07:55:37 2013
From: gordon at gordonchild.com (Gordon Child)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 08:55:37 -0600
Subject: [Saltlake-pm] Reminder: Salt Lake Perl Mongers meet Tuesday
In-Reply-To: <CAKTcQ94vCLdzsZvggofk6uS=ctN2oEaCKGoACJDjtkXrBFk9sA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKTcQ94vCLdzsZvggofk6uS=ctN2oEaCKGoACJDjtkXrBFk9sA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <22D994D1-B5CA-4529-88DB-FFBECB1DAD75@gordonchild.com>

I'll be there. :)

On May 12, 2013, at 11:26 PM, David Oswald <daoswald at gmail.com> wrote:

> The Salt Lake Perl Mongers May meeting will be this Tuesday, May 14th
> at 7:00pm.
> 
> The meeting will be hosted at Bluehost's Draper office.
> 12159 South Bus Park Drive, Suite 160
> Draper, UT 84020
> 
> Topic:
> Intro to Dancer -- Gordon Child
> We will start out with "Hello world", walk through primary features
> such as routing, and writing handlers. Finally, we'll go over popular
> plugins for common uses such as databases and RBAC.
> 
> 
> Please come if you can.  RSVP is appreciated but not required.
> 
> 
> See you all there,
> 
> Dave
> 
> --
> 
> David Oswald
> daoswald at gmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> Saltlake-pm mailing list
> Saltlake-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/saltlake-pm
> http://saltlake.pm.org

From alansyoungiii at gmail.com  Tue May 14 11:38:53 2013
From: alansyoungiii at gmail.com (Alan Young)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 12:38:53 -0600
Subject: [Saltlake-pm] Reminder: Salt Lake Perl Mongers meet Tuesday
In-Reply-To: <22D994D1-B5CA-4529-88DB-FFBECB1DAD75@gordonchild.com>
References: <CAKTcQ94vCLdzsZvggofk6uS=ctN2oEaCKGoACJDjtkXrBFk9sA@mail.gmail.com>
	<22D994D1-B5CA-4529-88DB-FFBECB1DAD75@gordonchild.com>
Message-ID: <CAPAD24sKQQWf4bJjpfv+bSWt1X-G_NHwOwQXkzQOu3ydeX3wZQ@mail.gmail.com>

I'll be there.

On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Gordon Child <gordon at gordonchild.com> wrote:
> I'll be there. :)
>
> On May 12, 2013, at 11:26 PM, David Oswald <daoswald at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The Salt Lake Perl Mongers May meeting will be this Tuesday, May 14th
>> at 7:00pm.
>>
>> The meeting will be hosted at Bluehost's Draper office.
>> 12159 South Bus Park Drive, Suite 160
>> Draper, UT 84020
>>
>> Topic:
>> Intro to Dancer -- Gordon Child
>> We will start out with "Hello world", walk through primary features
>> such as routing, and writing handlers. Finally, we'll go over popular
>> plugins for common uses such as databases and RBAC.
>>
>>
>> Please come if you can.  RSVP is appreciated but not required.
>>
>>
>> See you all there,
>>
>> Dave
>>
>> --
>>
>> David Oswald
>> daoswald at gmail.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> Saltlake-pm mailing list
>> Saltlake-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/saltlake-pm
>> http://saltlake.pm.org
> _______________________________________________
> Saltlake-pm mailing list
> Saltlake-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/saltlake-pm
> http://saltlake.pm.org



-- 
Alan Young

From gordon at gordonchild.com  Tue May 14 17:42:17 2013
From: gordon at gordonchild.com (Gordon Child)
Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 18:42:17 -0600
Subject: [Saltlake-pm] Reminder: Salt Lake Perl Mongers meet Tuesday
In-Reply-To: <22D994D1-B5CA-4529-88DB-FFBECB1DAD75@gordonchild.com>
References: <CAKTcQ94vCLdzsZvggofk6uS=ctN2oEaCKGoACJDjtkXrBFk9sA@mail.gmail.com>
	<22D994D1-B5CA-4529-88DB-FFBECB1DAD75@gordonchild.com>
Message-ID: <AE5AB5B6-97E4-434A-B73E-9B3EA6995412@gordonchild.com>

Looks like I miss calculated how long it'll take me to get there. I'll be there at quarter after seven. Apologies.

On May 14, 2013, at 8:55 AM, Gordon Child <gordon at gordonchild.com> wrote:

> I'll be there. :)
> 
> On May 12, 2013, at 11:26 PM, David Oswald <daoswald at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> The Salt Lake Perl Mongers May meeting will be this Tuesday, May 14th
>> at 7:00pm.
>> 
>> The meeting will be hosted at Bluehost's Draper office.
>> 12159 South Bus Park Drive, Suite 160
>> Draper, UT 84020
>> 
>> Topic:
>> Intro to Dancer -- Gordon Child
>> We will start out with "Hello world", walk through primary features
>> such as routing, and writing handlers. Finally, we'll go over popular
>> plugins for common uses such as databases and RBAC.
>> 
>> 
>> Please come if you can.  RSVP is appreciated but not required.
>> 
>> 
>> See you all there,
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> David Oswald
>> daoswald at gmail.com
>> _______________________________________________
>> Saltlake-pm mailing list
>> Saltlake-pm at pm.org
>> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/saltlake-pm
>> http://saltlake.pm.org
> _______________________________________________
> Saltlake-pm mailing list
> Saltlake-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/saltlake-pm
> http://saltlake.pm.org

From fozzmoo at gmail.com  Wed May 15 07:45:31 2013
From: fozzmoo at gmail.com (Doran L. Barton)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 08:45:31 -0600
Subject: [Saltlake-pm] Modern Perl book
Message-ID: <1682743.lT9JiSfFto@thinker>

In last night's meeting, we were discussing good books for new Perl 
developers. Learning Perl is a tried and tested resource. I've found 
chromatic's Modern Perl book to be quite good, especially at instilling good 
"modern" habits. Plus, it's available for free download.

http://onyxneon.com/books/modern_perl/index.html

While it covers more advanced topics like object oriented Perl with Moose, it 
does spend the first 100 pages introducing fundamental aspects of the language. 
It's not a bad introductory book for Perl.

-- 
Doran L. Barton <fozzmoo at gmail.com> - Linux, Perl, Web, good fun, and more!
 "Drunk gets nine months in violin case"
    -- Headline seen in newspaper


From daoswald at gmail.com  Wed May 15 15:58:31 2013
From: daoswald at gmail.com (David Oswald)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 16:58:31 -0600
Subject: [Saltlake-pm] June meeting
Message-ID: <CAKTcQ94wvKBOF_oET-a3ZXm0f4ceepoE0V0fSdEFQPvC4yoipg@mail.gmail.com>

Our May meeting was last night, and for those who missed it, Gordon
Child gave a great presentation on the Dancer web framework.

At Open West a few individuals mentioned that they have regular
conflicts on Tuesday evenings.  I suspect that on any given weeknight
a handful of people will have a conflict.  But we should test the
water.

If we moved our meetings to the 2nd Wednesday every month rather than
the 2nd Tuesday, who among us would we lose?  Who would we gain?
Please weigh in here on the mailing list if this changes your ability
to attend.

Our next meeting will probably be the 2nd Tuesday in June (6/11),
unless it looks like there would be a net gain by shifting to the 2nd
Weds.  I'll hold off setting the date until I get some feedback.

Dave

--

David Oswald
daoswald at gmail.com

From mdmonsen at gmail.com  Wed May 15 16:04:06 2013
From: mdmonsen at gmail.com (Matt Monsen)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 17:04:06 -0600
Subject: [Saltlake-pm] June meeting
In-Reply-To: <CAKTcQ94wvKBOF_oET-a3ZXm0f4ceepoE0V0fSdEFQPvC4yoipg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKTcQ94wvKBOF_oET-a3ZXm0f4ceepoE0V0fSdEFQPvC4yoipg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B07D5B1D-A670-4273-8A4D-4E65B72D5770@gmail.com>

Tuesdays work better for me than Wednesdays, I just had something come up last minute for yesterday.  If we moved to Wednesdays I would be able to make any of the summer months.

Matt Monsen

On May 15, 2013, at 4:58 PM, David Oswald <daoswald at gmail.com> wrote:

> Our May meeting was last night, and for those who missed it, Gordon
> Child gave a great presentation on the Dancer web framework.
> 
> At Open West a few individuals mentioned that they have regular
> conflicts on Tuesday evenings.  I suspect that on any given weeknight
> a handful of people will have a conflict.  But we should test the
> water.
> 
> If we moved our meetings to the 2nd Wednesday every month rather than
> the 2nd Tuesday, who among us would we lose?  Who would we gain?
> Please weigh in here on the mailing list if this changes your ability
> to attend.
> 
> Our next meeting will probably be the 2nd Tuesday in June (6/11),
> unless it looks like there would be a net gain by shifting to the 2nd
> Weds.  I'll hold off setting the date until I get some feedback.
> 
> Dave
> 
> --
> 
> David Oswald
> daoswald at gmail.com
> _______________________________________________
> Saltlake-pm mailing list
> Saltlake-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/saltlake-pm
> http://saltlake.pm.org

From fozzmoo at gmail.com  Wed May 15 18:23:17 2013
From: fozzmoo at gmail.com (Doran L. Barton)
Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 19:23:17 -0600
Subject: [Saltlake-pm] June meeting
In-Reply-To: <CAKTcQ94wvKBOF_oET-a3ZXm0f4ceepoE0V0fSdEFQPvC4yoipg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAKTcQ94wvKBOF_oET-a3ZXm0f4ceepoE0V0fSdEFQPvC4yoipg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7823013.nxXhkIWn9F@foo.fozzilinymoo.org>

On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 04:58:31 PM David Oswald wrote:
> Our next meeting will probably be the 2nd Tuesday in June (6/11),

Speaking of which, I volunteered to present at June's meeting. I'd like to 
know what is more interesting to others: DBIx::Class or Test::Class?

Also, I think it would be beneficial if we also had a short mini-presentation 
on an introductory topic at the beginning. Something like "Using map" or a 
quick tutorial on using references or something like that. Would anyone be up 
for doing that? Maybe 15 minutes, max? 

Most of our attendees are seasoned Perl programmers, but we did have one 
attendee last night that is just getting into it. 

-- 
Doran L. Barton <fozzmoo at gmail.com> - Linux, Perl, Web, good fun, and more!
 "Plane Too Close to Ground, Crash Probe Told"
    -- Headline seen in a newspaper

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From asocpro at gmail.com  Thu May 23 17:53:46 2013
From: asocpro at gmail.com (Zachary Gibbs)
Date: Thu, 23 May 2013 18:53:46 -0600
Subject: [Saltlake-pm] June meeting
In-Reply-To: <7823013.nxXhkIWn9F@foo.fozzilinymoo.org>
References: <CAKTcQ94wvKBOF_oET-a3ZXm0f4ceepoE0V0fSdEFQPvC4yoipg@mail.gmail.com>
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As that one attendee that is just starting out I think that would be a
really awesome idea! I was able to get a better idea of what can be done
with and how to implement Perl, but clearly I missed some of the details. I
have been looking at some of the books that you guys suggested and it is
going well so far.
 Also that night I commented about the class I had Tuesday nights that
might make it hard to go, well good news! Tuesday, the first day of the
class, our teacher decided that we only needed one day a week instead of
two so my Tuesdays are free. Also Wednesdays are free. So I would be good
with either.

I like it when stuff works out like that. :)

Zach Gibbs


On Wed, May 15, 2013 at 7:23 PM, Doran L. Barton <fozzmoo at gmail.com> wrote:

> **
>
> On Wednesday, May 15, 2013 04:58:31 PM David Oswald wrote:
>
> > Our next meeting will probably be the 2nd Tuesday in June (6/11),
>
>
>
> Speaking of which, I volunteered to present at June's meeting. I'd like to
>
> know what is more interesting to others: DBIx::Class or Test::Class?
>
> Also, I think it would be beneficial if we also had a short
> mini-presentation
>
> on an introductory topic at the beginning. Something like "Using map" or a
>
> quick tutorial on using references or something like that. Would anyone be
> up
>
> for doing that? Maybe 15 minutes, max?
>
> Most of our attendees are seasoned Perl programmers, but we did have one
>
> attendee last night that is just getting into it.
>
> --
>
> Doran L. Barton <fozzmoo at gmail.com> - Linux, Perl, Web, good fun, and
> more!
>
> "Plane Too Close to Ground, Crash Probe Told"
>
> -- Headline seen in a newspaper
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Saltlake-pm at pm.org
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From chazmcgarvey at brokenzipper.com  Fri May 24 13:42:06 2013
From: chazmcgarvey at brokenzipper.com (Charles McGarvey)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 14:42:06 -0600
Subject: [Saltlake-pm] June meeting
In-Reply-To: <7823013.nxXhkIWn9F@foo.fozzilinymoo.org>
References: <CAKTcQ94wvKBOF_oET-a3ZXm0f4ceepoE0V0fSdEFQPvC4yoipg@mail.gmail.com>
	<7823013.nxXhkIWn9F@foo.fozzilinymoo.org>
Message-ID: <519FD09E.5040704@brokenzipper.com>

On 05/15/2013 07:23 PM, Doran L. Barton wrote:
> Speaking of which, I volunteered to present at June's meeting. I'd like to
> know what is more interesting to others: DBIx::Class or Test::Class?
> Also, I think it would be beneficial if we also had a short mini-presentation
> on an introductory topic at the beginning. Something like "Using map" or a
> quick tutorial on using references or something like that. Would anyone be up
> for doing that? Maybe 15 minutes, max?


I don't know if you've already decided--the website currently says
DBIx::Class--but Test::Class would be my preference FWIW.  Maybe another time.

Speaking of presentations, did Gordon have slides for his Dancer intro?  If
so, can they be made available?  I'm sorry to have missed it.


-- 
Charles McGarvey

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From daoswald at gmail.com  Fri May 24 15:22:40 2013
From: daoswald at gmail.com (David Oswald)
Date: Fri, 24 May 2013 16:22:40 -0600
Subject: [Saltlake-pm] June meeting
In-Reply-To: <519FD09E.5040704@brokenzipper.com>
References: <CAKTcQ94wvKBOF_oET-a3ZXm0f4ceepoE0V0fSdEFQPvC4yoipg@mail.gmail.com>
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I updated the website last night and just went with DBIx::Class,
mostly because I forgot that Test::Class has also been offered.  I
personally feel more deficient in DBIx::Class, but I don't mind if
that waits for another time.

Doran, please let me know which you intend to discuss and I'll update
the site.  ...but we still have plenty of time.

I also put myself down for an intro to Perl topic.  I was thinking I
could do lexical scoping, or simply take on a few functions and
explore them a bit.  Suggestions are welcome.  If nothing in
particular is requested, I might look something up in Learning Perl or
Intermediate Perl and run with it.

Dave

On Fri, May 24, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Charles McGarvey
<chazmcgarvey at brokenzipper.com> wrote:
> On 05/15/2013 07:23 PM, Doran L. Barton wrote:
>> Speaking of which, I volunteered to present at June's meeting. I'd like to
>> know what is more interesting to others: DBIx::Class or Test::Class?
>> Also, I think it would be beneficial if we also had a short mini-presentation
>> on an introductory topic at the beginning. Something like "Using map" or a
>> quick tutorial on using references or something like that. Would anyone be up
>> for doing that? Maybe 15 minutes, max?
>
>
> I don't know if you've already decided--the website currently says
> DBIx::Class--but Test::Class would be my preference FWIW.  Maybe another time.
>
> Speaking of presentations, did Gordon have slides for his Dancer intro?  If
> so, can they be made available?  I'm sorry to have missed it.
>
>
> --
> Charles McGarvey
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Saltlake-pm mailing list
> Saltlake-pm at pm.org
> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/saltlake-pm
> http://saltlake.pm.org



-- 

David Oswald
daoswald at gmail.com