From doug at veritablesoftware.com Mon Nov 1 10:08:22 2010 From: doug at veritablesoftware.com (Douglas E. Miles) Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2010 10:08:22 -0700 Subject: [Phoenix-pm] Meeting 11/04/2010 7:00 PM Message-ID: <4CCEF406.7090701@veritablesoftware.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doug at veritablesoftware.com Wed Nov 3 10:13:03 2010 From: doug at veritablesoftware.com (Douglas E. Miles) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 10:13:03 -0700 Subject: [Phoenix-pm] Reminder: Meeting 11/04/2010 7:00 PM In-Reply-To: <4CCEF406.7090701@veritablesoftware.com> References: <4CCEF406.7090701@veritablesoftware.com> Message-ID: <4CD1981F.2050904@veritablesoftware.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doug at veritablesoftware.com Thu Nov 11 19:35:35 2010 From: doug at veritablesoftware.com (Douglas E. Miles) Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2010 20:35:35 -0700 Subject: [Phoenix-pm] Presentation Slides In-Reply-To: <4CD1981F.2050904@veritablesoftware.com> References: <4CCEF406.7090701@veritablesoftware.com> <4CD1981F.2050904@veritablesoftware.com> Message-ID: <4CDCB607.2030305@veritablesoftware.com> I put up a quick and dirty page for the presentation slides: http://pm.veritablesoftware.com/slides/ Here are Erik's slides in particular: http://pm.veritablesoftware.com/slides/perl_debugger/index.html If I get time I'll make it nicer, but don't count on it. ;) From friedman at highwire.stanford.edu Sat Nov 13 15:50:28 2010 From: friedman at highwire.stanford.edu (Michael Friedman) Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 15:50:28 -0800 Subject: [Phoenix-pm] Presentation Slides In-Reply-To: <4CDCB607.2030305@veritablesoftware.com> References: <4CCEF406.7090701@veritablesoftware.com> <4CD1981F.2050904@veritablesoftware.com> <4CDCB607.2030305@veritablesoftware.com> Message-ID: <04C5AD4B-429D-4813-A577-494F07B24257@highwire.stanford.edu> I finally got a chance to look these over. It sounds like a great presentation! I can't tell if Erik explained that using 'perl -d' directly, without -e, puts you into STDIN input mode. Then you type perl commands and hit ^D (control-d) to tell perl "End Of Input" and it'll start interpreting what you gave it. I use this all the time to cut & paste in some use statements, maybe a line or two of boilerplate code, and then drop me into the debugger after that. Cuz let's face it: editing in the debugger is not optimal. :-) (Because it's interpreting STDIN this way, you can also use this to generate perl code somewhere else and then pipe that to 'perl -d'. The short form is like this: `cat tmp/blah.pl | perl -d` which is nearly identical to `perl -d tmp/blah.pl`, but you could use anything on the other end of the pipe.) -- Mike ______________________________________________________________________________ Mike Friedman | HighWire Press, Stanford Univ | friedman at highwire.stanford.edu On Nov 11, 2010, at 7:35 PM, Douglas E. Miles wrote: > I put up a quick and dirty page for the presentation slides: > > http://pm.veritablesoftware.com/slides/ > > Here are Erik's slides in particular: > > http://pm.veritablesoftware.com/slides/perl_debugger/index.html > > If I get time I'll make it nicer, but don't count on it. ;) > _______________________________________________ > Phoenix-pm mailing list > Phoenix-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/phoenix-pm From lefthandskeletonkey at gmail.com Mon Nov 15 09:22:22 2010 From: lefthandskeletonkey at gmail.com (Erik Tank) Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 10:22:22 -0700 Subject: [Phoenix-pm] Presentation Slides In-Reply-To: <04C5AD4B-429D-4813-A577-494F07B24257@highwire.stanford.edu> References: <4CCEF406.7090701@veritablesoftware.com> <4CD1981F.2050904@veritablesoftware.com> <4CDCB607.2030305@veritablesoftware.com> <04C5AD4B-429D-4813-A577-494F07B24257@highwire.stanford.edu> Message-ID: Mike, Thanks for that info - I tested it out and can see that it will be extremely useful. I did not cover that, nor did I know about it. I completely missed that while researching this. I will add it to the slides (eventually) and definitely cover it if I do this presentation again. Erik On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Michael Friedman < friedman at highwire.stanford.edu> wrote: > I finally got a chance to look these over. It sounds like a great > presentation! > > I can't tell if Erik explained that using 'perl -d' directly, without -e, > puts you into STDIN input mode. Then you type perl commands and hit ^D > (control-d) to tell perl "End Of Input" and it'll start interpreting what > you gave it. I use this all the time to cut & paste in some use statements, > maybe a line or two of boilerplate code, and then drop me into the debugger > after that. > > Cuz let's face it: editing in the debugger is not optimal. :-) > > (Because it's interpreting STDIN this way, you can also use this to > generate perl code somewhere else and then pipe that to 'perl -d'. The short > form is like this: `cat tmp/blah.pl | perl -d` which is nearly identical > to `perl -d tmp/blah.pl`, but you could use anything on the other end of > the pipe.) > > -- Mike > > ______________________________________________________________________________ > Mike Friedman | HighWire Press, Stanford Univ | > friedman at highwire.stanford.edu > > On Nov 11, 2010, at 7:35 PM, Douglas E. Miles wrote: > > > I put up a quick and dirty page for the presentation slides: > > > > http://pm.veritablesoftware.com/slides/ > > > > Here are Erik's slides in particular: > > > > http://pm.veritablesoftware.com/slides/perl_debugger/index.html > > > > If I get time I'll make it nicer, but don't count on it. ;) > > _______________________________________________ > > Phoenix-pm mailing list > > Phoenix-pm at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/phoenix-pm > > _______________________________________________ > Phoenix-pm mailing list > Phoenix-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/phoenix-pm > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From doug at veritablesoftware.com Mon Nov 29 13:27:46 2010 From: doug at veritablesoftware.com (Douglas E. Miles) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 14:27:46 -0700 Subject: [Phoenix-pm] No Meetings for December and January Message-ID: <4CF41AD2.7020100@veritablesoftware.com> Due to the Holidays, and the fact that I've had family in town (which is unusual), we will NOT be having meetings in December and January. I'm getting some great non-Doug presentations lined up for next year, so I should have several lined up by the time we start back up in February. If someone else wants to organize some meetings/social gatherings between now and February, feel free!