[Phoenix-pm] PERL DBI

Scott Walters scott at illogics.org
Tue Mar 14 00:01:13 PST 2006


Okay, I'm sorry, I was overly harsh and defensive there...  still,
I suggest you make your motives and intentions clear when correcting
people, especially grumps like me, to avoid us going down the war path.

Cheers,
-scott

On  0, "David A. Sinck" <phx-pm-list at grueslayer.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> \_ SMTP quoth Scott Walters on 3/13/2006 21:46 as having spake thusly:
> \_
> \_ On  0, "David A. Sinck" <phx-pm-list at grueslayer.com> wrote:
> \_ > 
> \_ > HAHAHAHAHA.  Guess again.  There's an instance, at least with MySQL
> \_ 
> \_ Okay, I don't use MySQL heavy (for reasons of it better garbage), so 
> \_ I over generalized.  I conceede your point that rare bugs will make
> \_ this generalization not always true.
> 
> I don't think it's a mysql issue, mysql didn't guess wrong on the
> data, it's the dbd driver that guessed wrong.  It might be smarter
> now, I've not gone back to retest the pathological cases.  Better,
> faster bugs to chase!  :-)
> 
> 
> \_ By the way, people who argue small points while ignoring the point of
> \_ what was said annoy me.  
> 
> I didn't ignore the point, I just was adding backfill around it
> showing that MySQL DBD, in my experience, was occasionally
> pathological.  I was NOT saying Scott was pathological, merely MySQL.
> If it was perceived that way, a thousand and one apologies.
> 
> \_ Did you really think someone on the list
> \_ would be damaged thinking that placeholders always send data out of band,
> \_ even when using Informix?
> 
> Last I checked, we get all kinds here.  Some might be overly trusting
> yet.  :-)
> 
> \_ I wrote a hasty reply out of desire to be helpful to someone who was
> \_ having trouble with something, not to debate minutia, and have been
> \_ punished for it.
> 
> No no no, punish is not the perception I wanted.  You gave great
> suggestions, I was pointing out not all is rosy with everything.
> 
> Until MySQL DBD has bit you (might be fixed now, I haven't checked),
> you don't know the pain of trying to track down errors from Perl *not*
> doing the right thing.  After you've got multiple dev-hours down
> tracking something that shouldn't be and very, very rarely is, then
> you can see if my whining is justified.  :-)
> 
> If I hadn't been ambushed by a meeting of great pain on ROUS (reports
> of unusual size... they do exist!) I would have squashed this
> misperception earlier.
> 
> Again, MySQL dbd bad, Scott good.
> 
> MySQL 4.x fun, possibly later copies as well:
>   create table foo (bar datetime);
>   insert into foo values ('04:02:31');
>   select * from foo;
> 
> David
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