[Phoenix-pm] meeting proposal

[Scott Walters]

Oh, by the way... you often hear about wretched Perl 5's internals
are, with it's deeply layered macros and utter lack of OO, 
except for the slightest hint in SV/AV/HV/GV/etcs.

But, reported, the JVM is far worse:
http://www.jroller.com/page/slava/20050102#the_hotspot_source_code_is

How so very amusing...

I especially like the part about how reflection is implemented
by generating a class on the fly.

-scott

On  0, Andrew Johnson <andypm at exiledplanet.org> wrote:
> For the beginner-to-intermediate part, I could present an
> Introduction to POD.  Some people think POD is an advanced
> part of Perl, but it's really quite easy to learn (the talk
> is ~15min).  Plus, once you have the basics down, POD can
> be a powerful way to document your Perl source.   
> 
> OK, enough salesmanship; if the group is interested, I'd
> be happy to present.  If not, that's just another set of
> slides we're all spared from. :-) 
> 
> --aj
> 
> 
> Brock <awwaiid at thelackthereof.org> wrote:
> __________
> >
> >Hello all,
> >
> >For those of you who prefer to think of me as the benevolent
> dictator, I 
> >thought I'd let you know that we are having a meeting on
> Thursday July 
> >29 2005 at 7:00pm at the Scottsdale Public Library, Civic
> Center. For 
> >the (representative-)democratically inclined, I welcome
> feedback on this 
> >time/location. I'll make a full anouncement once we have
> a topic. 
> >
> >And now for the second part... the presentation / talk
> portion. Once 
> >again I refer you to
> >
> >http://web.archive.org/web/20040726180006/phoenix.pm.org/wiki/in
> ex.cgi?PerlMongersIdeas 
> >
> >for some suggestions. Please mail your suggestions here
> to the list. 
> >Ideally I'd like two shorter talks -- a beginner-intermediate
> one and an 
> >intermediate-advanced. Scott and I both are willing to
> talk about all 
> >sorts of things, and other volunteers are very welcome.
> Something 
> >bugging you about some Perl code you're working on? Some
> module you'd 
> >like to see in action? Now is the time and place to get
> the dirt on it! 
> >
> >recently mentioned suggestions (mostly by Scott... hope
> he doesn't mind): 
> >  * The making of _Perl 6 Now_
> >  * Architecture of "Active Wiki Pages" in TinyWiki (secure
> server-side 
> >    execute of Perl in user-edited pages)
> >  * How to parse HTML, scrape pages, and crawl sites
> >  * A really horrible PDF invoice generator in Perl that'll
> make you want to cry 
> >  * Theory and use of Perl6::Contexts (ooh, this would
> be fuuun) -- 
> >    adding Perl 6 style string, integer, boolean, and reference
> contexts 
> >    to Perl 5 for a mondo cool code effect with greatly reduced
> >    suckiness. This is another B::Generate hack of mine.
> >  * Intro to Perl5 objects
> >  * Using Perl for the ICFP 2005 Contest (which was all
> sorts of fun) 
> >  * Using (pick your favorite web-framework -- lets say
> CGI::Application) 
> >  * other suggestions / volunteer presentations welcome
> >
> >So much to talk about! The floor is open.
> >
> >--Brock
> >
> >On 2005.07.15.00.38, Scott Walters wrote:
> >| Scottsdale Civic Center library sounds good.  That should
> be a lot more accessible 
> >| to people in Mesa and Phoenix but we might lose some
> of the North Scottsdale 
> >| crowd.  I sure don't have a data projector.  If enough
> people have laptops with 
> >| WiFi and the VNC client, we can all get the on the network
> and do view-only 
> >| mode off of the presenter.  Just a thought.
> >| 
> >| -scott
> >| 
> >| 
> >| On  0, Brock <awwaiid at thelackthereof.org> wrote:
> >| > 
> >| > Does anyone have a projector? We can meet at the Scottsdale
> Public 
> >| > Library (Civic Center) -- They have wifi, whiteboards,
> but no projector. 
> >| > 
> >| > --Brock
> >| > 
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