[Phoenix-pm] job opening

[jnf]

Hrm. I think as of next week, I work with you Bill.


On Tue, 5 Oct 2004, Bill Nash wrote:

> Date: Tue, 5 Oct 2004 14:25:43 -0700 (MST)
> From: Bill Nash <billn at billn.net>
> To: Scott Walters <scott at illogics.org>
> Cc: phoenix-pm at pm.org
> Subject: Re: [Phoenix-pm] job opening
>
> On Tue, 5 Oct 2004, Scott Walters wrote:
>
> > Hey billn. Always good to see your text. I take it as a compliment that
> > you consider my banter worthy of a reply.
>
> You're in a great minority. Most people see me post and go 'dear god, what
> now?!' =)
>
> > But that's moot. My real complaint was something I'd rather hint at than say:
> > my jobs were banal. Of the dozens of "ecomm" websites I slaved away to
> > create under deadline, only one is still online. The other companies folded.
>
> But these aren't *your* fault, as much as they are the property of poor
> management of a product fielded by people obviously incapable of wielding
> the tools you provided. It's not just you, it happens in more than just
> the tech industry.
>
> > However, it all has a happy end: I work on things I consider interesting anyway,
> > and I consider a diet rich in ramen a small price to pay for the privilege.
>
> Again, this is as much the product of finding decent managers who can take
> what you provide and make things Suck Less(tm). I like the work I do, and
> while sometimes things Suck More(tm), it's always entertaining trying to
> push them in the other direction. I've been largely lucky, with only a
> few past exceptions, in finding managers with the technical ability
> to effectively manage technical workers.
>
> There will always be bad managers and crappy executives, and people in
> decision making roles who clearly don't belong there. This is a basic
> truth of any industry run by humans. Call it Tao, Zen, whatever, once you
> accept that it's as inevitable as death, the rest is simply routing around
> the fault.
>
> > It's nice to be able to boo the demons of the 8-5 job with my fellow
> > Perl Mongers. Re: Darwin, it's true I probably won't have any kids smelling
> > bad and not having money, so you're right. I can't argue with that.
>
> I can't say, "Don't let this defeat you," since I've been there. I've been
> the burnout victim, broken by bad management and bullshit political
> wrangling. While I can't offer a solution, I can say, it gets better. Even
> statistically, you can't stay down forever.
>
> - billn
>
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