Phoenix.pm: Tempe/East Vally PerlMongers Approved.

[intertwingled]

We've tried a meeting on internet relay chat.  Worked out rather well, 
from what I heard:  Although I "attended" my client was idle because I 
had to drive my mom to urgent care that afternoon.

Tony

Chris Krum wrote:

>>Re: people not returning, there are a lot of people we've seen
>>once that are probably lurking on the list. I'm sure it is nothing
>>personal, just that a bunch of middle aged white guys sitting
>>around a conferance table ain't their idea of a good time =)
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>Hey, what's wrong with a "bunch of middle aged white guys sitting
>around a conferance table"? I rather enjoyed my one visit. (Pardon me while
>I scratch my Fuzzy Logic.) My problem is that I usually don't catch up with
>my e-mail until the weekend so I finally hear about the Thursday meeting on
>the Saturday after it's over. (Plus, during the summer I was riding the bus
>because my beat up old bug doesn't have air conditioning.)
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>Would a virtual meeting of some kind work?
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Scott Walters" <scott at illogics.org>
>To: "Douglas E. Miles" <doug at phoenixinternet.com>
>Cc: <phoenix-pm-list at happyfunball.pm.org>
>Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 10:41 PM
>Subject: Re: Phoenix.pm: Tempe/East Vally PerlMongers Approved.
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>>Hey.
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>>Re: people not returning, there are a lot of people we've seen
>>once that are probably lurking on the list. I'm sure it is nothing
>>personal, just that a bunch of middle aged white guys sitting
>>around a conferance table ain't their idea of a good time =)
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>>Re: Pablo and McAllester, McAllester and Goldfrab ran and
>>run Contact Designs, whom I worked for quite a while. Before
>>I signed on there, they did a deal with Pablo - I don't know
>>the details - for "dosomething.org". I'm told it i a school
>>related site for getting kids involved (in something, I
>>don't know what, presumably not drugs and violence). They
>>did it in mod_perl, as their first mod_perl site (having
>>a persistant mod_perl fetish lasting through my stay there)
>>and they, well, botched it. They asked for a lot of money
>>and didn't deliver. Pablo and McAllester were mutually
>>afraid of what the other would think of them, or something
>>like that, the way I hear it. I don't think it was bad blood,
>>just discomfort.
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>>Pablo was a nice guy. I miss seeing him around. McAllester
>>finally gave up on development after running the guantlet
>>of frustrations associated with it and as far as I know
>>they just sell already written software, application
>>service provider style. They found another cart that
>>was less powerful and less flexible than mine but had a
>>nice admin for setting up new stores and just tell clients
>>now days that they can't have the things they want rather
>>than quoting them a price and trying to deliver. There is
>>something to be said for that, IMHO. Most attempts to write
>>software are misguided, unless the only purpose is education.
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>>Re: moving the meetings around the valley, we were talking
>>about doing that at one point but, uh, never quite got around to it.
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>>-scott
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>>On  0, "Douglas E. Miles" <doug at phoenixinternet.com> wrote:
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>>>Scott Walters wrote:
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>>>>Hi other Scott,
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>>>>No, nothing like that. Phoenix PM is nothing worth fighting over ;)
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>>>>On the other hand, people have failed to return. That's far more
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>>>>Not because they were mad at someone, as far as I know, but because
>>>>something uncomfortable happened. Mcallester and Pablo come to
>>>>mind. But even then, that's fairly rare.
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>>>Hey, what's up with that?  I'm always the last to know.  What happened
>>>to Pablo?  I don't remember McAllester.  (No offense if you're out
>>>there.  I just have a bad memory.)  Reply off list if you'd rather.
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>>>>We're all pretty tolerent. All you have to do is keep your hands
>>>>to yourself when asked to do.
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