From scott at illogics.org Sun Jun 1 14:11:02 2003 From: scott at illogics.org (Scott Walters) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:17:01 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Smallish contract job in C/C++/VB? on Windows Message-ID: <20030601191102.GR20479@illogics.org> Hi, This isn't Perl - sorry. If someone knows of a better place to kick this one, please let me know. In a nutshell, Victoria contacted me to do some programming work for her, and I punted it, but told her that I would help try to track someone down if she had no luck. In fact, she had a lot of bad luck. The first programmer she said was argumentative and uncooperative. Sounds like she's getting a lot of primadonnas. If you're interested in this, please cc me on messages until it gets off the ground, so I know what the status is. If you pass it to someone else, please ask them to cc me until it is off the ground. I don't want any money, I just want to know if/when this is taken care of. Anyway, thanks guys, -scott > On 0, The Lawyer Assistant wrote: > > Scott -- > > We recently paid a programmer to develop Easy Bankruptcy Office > software for us. However, we want to change the name of the > program to Easy 1-Person Office as well as have the program file > install from an "exe" rather than from "msi" as it currently is. > Finally, we want an End User License Agreement incorporated in. > The software programmer we hired refuses to do these changes so > we are seeking to have the entire program redesigned by someone > who is willing to work with us and not refuse to make changes. > > Please download our present software at > http://www.lawyerassistant.com/software/ and let me know a "ball > park" price of what it would cost to redevelop this program with > the minor changes outlined above. > > Thank you for your time. > > -- > Victoria A. Ring, CSA > Certified Paralegal and Notary > THE LAWYER ASSISTANT > (614) 486-7642 > http://www.lawyerassistant.com From scott at illogics.org Mon Jun 2 15:17:13 2003 From: scott at illogics.org (Scott Walters) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:17:01 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting Announcement: Thursday, June 5th, 7:00pm Message-ID: <20030602201712.GZ20479@illogics.org> We'll have a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, June 5th, at 7:00PM. It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue, which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell. The parking lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting. Park in the lot that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell. Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space. Proceed to the main lobby, which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot. Scott Walters will be presenting the first part in a three part series on his FuzzyLogic module: Theory of Fuzzy Logic, a proposed CPAN module implementing it via overloaded operators. An example will be presented that performs fuzzy classification. From scott at illogics.org Wed Jun 4 04:33:42 2003 From: scott at illogics.org (Scott Walters) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:17:01 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting Announcement: Thursday, June 5th, 7:00pm Message-ID: <20030604093342.GF20479@illogics.org> Hi Jason, Sorry for the slow reply. I'm going to answer your questions out of order. Let me know if I miss one. The presentation assumes no prior knowledge - atleast the first presentation. I'm not sure about the next two. I've commited myself to a series. Just call me Captain Kirk. Fuzzy Logic does work well for expert systems, but is popular in two other areas: control (embedded applications/robotics/etc), and working with approximate ("imprecise") data. Actually, you can have it two ways - reasoning with approximate data, and approximate reasoning with data. This is subject to revision, but as it stands, each presentation will cover one of these three aspects of Fuzzy Logic. The first one will be a simple membership test used as a search engine. This illustrates processing approximate data. I'm trying to remove the last kinks from a modified version of http://www.slowass.net/geekdate/ . I wrote that as a quick hack then later realized it would good a good Fuzzy Logic example. It is kind of a joke - an online dating service for geeks. "Geek Date" crawls Google's search results for "BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK", downloads all matching pages, and converts each Geek Code block to a set-of-sets. When a search is peformed, a Fuzzy membership function is performed between a set-of-sets built from the search criteria and each set-of-sets built from each Geek Code block, and results are returned sorted by the degree of Fuzzy membership. The Geek Code lends itself well to building Fuzzy Sets. For example, P++(--) means something like "I like Perl and use it write most things, but sometimes I don't like Perl very much". Search attributes can't be represented as a scalar value. This person might show up in searches for people who like Perl, in searches for people who don't like Perl, and to some lesser degree, people who are neutral about Perl. Fuzzy Membership tests used in this way also find "near matches". A geek has interests besides Perl, and a complex search might specify any number of attributes, so Fuzzy Sets are wrapped up into sets-of-sets. My FuzzyLogic module overloads the normal operators in Perl (& is the Fuzzy membership test, for example), so working with sets-of-sets is syntactically the same as working on normal scalars. Thats my example of using Fuzzy Logic for its membership tests. Actually, I might have one more minor example to illustrate Fuzzy Logic's ability to deal with non-linear data (a common and humorus failing of most control computers/industrial robots). Time will tell. I haven't started my examples for industrial control and the expert system yet, but I think I know what I'm going to do. Through these examples, I'm trying to explain "what is Fuzzy Logic?" (no one can be told what Fuzzy Logic is, you must be shown for yourself), and how to use it in practical applications using my particular implementation of it. I'm always trying to do everything at once =) Understanding the Perl should be easy; understanding the Fuzzy examples should be easy; understanding how to apply Fuzzy primitives to solve problems that have yet to have been thought of will be more difficult, but I'm going to try. As whether or not you would find it worth while, I don't know you well enough to say. From helping people on #perlhelp on EFNET, I've noticed that people latch violently onto the first solutation that presents itself (a tendency that can be used to great amusement). Most people are confident that they can tackle any given and find a working solution. Most people are also confident that there are far better solutions than what they could cook up, and that they would spend more time than they want in the process. Depending on what you do with Perl, Fuzzy Logic might be a life saver or it might be a complete waste of time. I have no doubt that AI has wasted far more time than it has saved, to date. To me, modern life is advanced form of wasting time, and computers doubly so. We all know damn well that we should be busy hunting and gathering right now, and a lot of us deserve to be eaten by bears. -scott On 0, Jason Riedel wrote: > > Scott, > > I know nothing about Fuzzy Logic except that I have heard the term. I > did some what is and FAQ look ups on it and seems it is only used on fuzzy > expert systems and very few other real world implementations. Do you think I > would find this topic worth while ? For example, is the presentation geared > towards what is fuzzy logic then into more depth or do you assume knowledge > of what is fuzzy logic and it's uses and will just be discussing your module > theory, implementation and use ? > > Thanks, > Jason Riedel > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott Walters" > To: > Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 1:17 PM > Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting Announcement: Thursday, June 5th, 7:00pm > > > > We'll have a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, June 5th, at 7:00PM. > > > > It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue, > > which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell. The parking > > lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the > > receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting. Park in the lot > > that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell. > > Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space. Proceed to the main lobby, > > which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot. > > > > Scott Walters will be presenting the first part in a three part > > series on his FuzzyLogic module: > > Theory of Fuzzy Logic, a proposed CPAN module implementing it via > > overloaded operators. An example will be presented that performs > > fuzzy classification. > > > > > From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com Wed Jun 4 18:01:19 2003 From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Doug Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:17:01 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Fuzzy logic + reminder Message-ID: <3EDE7A3F.8060603@bpxinternet.com> It appears that Scott's presentation is timely. I just downloaded the latest Perl Journal, and the top story was "Fuzzy Logic in Perl". The meeting is tomorrow night. Please RSVP if you are planning to be there. From bob at brogmoid.com Wed Jun 4 21:32:07 2003 From: bob at brogmoid.com (Robert Lindley) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:17:01 2004 Subject: RSVP for Phoenix.pm: Fuzzy logic + reminder In-Reply-To: <3EDE7A3F.8060603@bpxinternet.com> References: <3EDE7A3F.8060603@bpxinternet.com> Message-ID: <3EDEABA7.3070105@brogmoid.com> Will be there Bob Lindley Doug Miles wrote: > It appears that Scott's presentation is timely. I just downloaded the > latest Perl Journal, and the top story was "Fuzzy Logic in Perl". > > The meeting is tomorrow night. Please RSVP if you are planning to be > there. > > > From cakrum at cox.net Wed Jun 4 21:51:39 2003 From: cakrum at cox.net (Chris Krum) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:17:01 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Fuzzy logic + reminder References: <3EDE7A3F.8060603@bpxinternet.com> Message-ID: <003701c32b0d$6353a060$730e0344@ph.cox.net> Hi there, I'm new to the list but I'm going to try to make it. My little girl had her toncils out today and I'm in the middle of a big development push at work so I can't be absolutely sure that I can get free but we'll see. Regards, Chris. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Miles" To: Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 4:01 PM Subject: Phoenix.pm: Fuzzy logic + reminder > It appears that Scott's presentation is timely. I just downloaded the > latest Perl Journal, and the top story was "Fuzzy Logic in Perl". > > The meeting is tomorrow night. Please RSVP if you are planning to be there. > > From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com Thu Jun 5 14:14:05 2003 From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Doug Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:17:01 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting Announcement: Thursday, June 5th, 7:00pm References: <20030602201712.GZ20479@illogics.org> Message-ID: <3EDF967D.2050401@bpxinternet.com> Please RSVP... We'll have a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, June 5th, at 7:00PM. It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue, which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell. The parking lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting. Park in the lot that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell. Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space. Proceed to the main lobby, which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot. Scott Walters will be presenting the first part in a three part series on his FuzzyLogic module: Theory of Fuzzy Logic, a proposed CPAN module implementing it via overloaded operators. An example will be presented that performs fuzzy classification. From scott at illogics.org Fri Jun 6 03:52:39 2003 From: scott at illogics.org (Scott Walters) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:17:01 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: last meeting - resources, etc Message-ID: <20030606085238.GO20479@illogics.org> Thanks again (very much) to everyone who came. I know getting anywhere in the valley is a drive and a half. The "slides" are at http://perldesignpatterns.com/?FuzzyLogic and the code is at http://www.slowass.net/~phaedrus/geekdate.fuzzylogic.tgz . This includes AI::FuzzyLogic, which has yet to be uploaded to CPAN - pending user feedback and better POD. This info is on http://phoenix.pm.org on the Calendar page. When the next meeting is announced, it'll be shuffled off into the announcements archive, linked from there. Once again, my personal motivations for speaking at PM is to solicit feedback on my work, and work on my public speeking skills. To that end, any and all feedback is welcome on those two things. Yes, I know I missed a spot shaving, and I already know about my personal hygeine. I'm going to try to post an MPEG of the festivities, but right now the only way I have to get sound digitized is to pipe it to my PDA and splice it back in with the video with an editor. For some reason, mic inputs on sound cards don't work on any of my systems. Perhaps it's an anti music piriting conspiracy. Speaking of, http://rss.com.com/2100-1028_3-1013037.html?type=pt&part=rss&tag=feed&subj=news - care of /. "WASHINGTON--A conservative Republican senator said Wednesday that he has drafted a bill that would scale back the ability of record labels, movie studios and software companies to use anticopying technology." Interesting. Cheers! -scott From scott at illogics.org Mon Jun 9 13:57:46 2003 From: scott at illogics.org (Scott Walters) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:17:01 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: [dan.mazzola@sun.com: [phxjug-announce] Meeting Update, Wed, June 11 @ 6:30] Message-ID: <20030609185745.GW20479@illogics.org> The topic of Phoenix Java Users Group meetings came up in the last Pheonix PM meeting. For anyone who hasn't seen an announcement, this is fairly typical of their meetings. No, I'm not getting at anything here. I just think it's interesting. -scott ----- Forwarded message from Dan Mazzola , announce@phxjug.org ----- Filter-Rule: None, default is delivery Subject: [phxjug-announce] Meeting Update, Wed, June 11 @ 6:30 Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 11:49:25 -0700 (MST) Mon, 09 Jun 2003 11:49:12 -0700 To: announce@phxjug.org From: Dan Mazzola announce@phxjug.org * Updated: Real World Speaker confirmed - see below * Phoenix Java User's Group http://www.phxjug.org Please plan on attending the next meeting and Bring a friend! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, June, 11, 2003 at 6:30 p.m. Location: UACT - University of Advancing Computer Technology 2625 West Baseline Road, Tempe, Arizona (Just south and west of Fry's Electronics) Plenty of parking, meeting held in the 1st floor Theater * Free refreshments before the meeting at the UACT provided by our Platinum Sponsor Sun Microsystems * Free Beer and Mexican food after at Aunt Chilada's provided by our Platinum Sponsor Sun Microsystems * Raffle: Sun ONE Starter Kit 7 CD sets Screwdriver Sets ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Keynote: Sun ONE - Technologies, standards and futures Abstract: This presentation will provide PHXJUG members with an overview of Sun ONE technologies and core products, and provide an update on new features to be released for key products. You will learn how Sun is using Open Standards to enable the Services driven architecture, reducing software complexity, increasing integration between products, and simplifying product delivery . We will spend time on new initiatives and tools for Java Web Services Developers. We will explain where N1 fits with Sun ONE. Speaker: Gavin Harrison, Sun ONE Systems Engineer Sun Microsystems Bio: Gavin is a Systems Engineer with Sun Microsystems based in Phoenix, and currently specialises in the Sun ONE/Java Web Services solutions from Sun. Gavin has over 13 years experience in IT, and has worked for a wide range of vendors, customers and industries, in locations worldwide covering the spectrum of Hardware, Services, Middleware and Application solutions. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Update: State of the User's Group Address Abstract: The Phoenix Java User's Group new president will discuss the state of the group, plans for the future, and describe leadership opportunities. Speaker: Todd Ellermann president@phxjug.org ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Real World: Developing Wireless Java Applications Using J2ME - Part 1 Abstract: This talk is an introduction to J2ME and describes the relationship of the gobbledygook or acronyms known as the CLDC, CDC, and MIDP. From there we discuss the features and packages of the Java language available to the wireless device developer, and how to get started developing J2ME applications using the Java Wireless Toolkit. Speaker: Jeffrey Peacock, jeffp@JeffreyPeacock.com Bio: Jeffrey Peacock is a 23-year veteran of Software Application Development. Early in his career he spent 6 intense years working for AT&T Bell Laboratories developing an Object Oriented language (similar to Sun's Java), an Object database, Object Oriented development/lifecycle tools, and UNIX System OS development. He's worked on various projects with Sun Microsystems, HP, AT&T and US West, including leadership positions in design and development of Hierarchical Storage Management, Interactive Cable, E-Commerce, Multi-Tier Web, and Medical Practice Management applications. He has been working with Java since 1995, J2EE since 1998, and J2ME since 2000. He is also a trained EMT, CPR/1st-AID instructor, SCUBA instructor, and instrument rated pilot. Jeffrey spent some of his early childhood in Phoenix and Tempe and recently relocated back to the valley from Boulder Colorado, to be near his family and work on his golf game. He is currently working as a consultant providing project management guidance and architectural analysis, and developing handheld applications for Palm devices utilizing J2ME. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ===================================================================== Daniel J. Mazzola /\ Technical Account Manager \\ \ \ \\ / Sun Microsystems / \/ / / 2398 East Camelback Road, Suite 950 / / \//\ Phoenix, AZ 85016 \//\ / / / / /\ / Voice Mail: (602) 224-3523 / \\ \ Fax: (602) 224-9831 \ \\ E-mail: dan.mazzola@sun.com \/ ===================================================================== -- To unsubscribe, send a message to announce-request@phxjug.org with "unsubscribe" in the *subject line*. If you have problems, send a message to 'listmaster@phxjug.org'. ----- End forwarded message ----- From intertwingled at qwest.net Mon Jun 9 14:25:27 2003 From: intertwingled at qwest.net (intertwingled) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:17:01 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: [dan.mazzola@sun.com: [phxjug-announce] Meeting Update, Wed, June 11 @ 6:30] References: <20030609185745.GW20479@illogics.org> Message-ID: <3EE4DF26.B61796EE@qwest.net> My complaint about java is that it looks ugly. I hate ugly source code. =/ Tony Scott Walters wrote: > The topic of Phoenix Java Users Group meetings came up in the last Pheonix PM > meeting. For anyone who hasn't seen an announcement, this is fairly typical > of their meetings. No, I'm not getting at anything here. I just think it's > interesting. > > -scott > > ----- Forwarded message from Dan Mazzola , announce@phxjug.org ----- > > Filter-Rule: None, default is delivery > Subject: [phxjug-announce] Meeting Update, Wed, June 11 @ 6:30 > Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2003 11:49:25 -0700 (MST) Mon, 09 Jun 2003 11:49:12 -0700 > To: announce@phxjug.org > From: Dan Mazzola announce@phxjug.org > > * Updated: Real World Speaker confirmed - see below * > > Phoenix Java User's Group > http://www.phxjug.org > > Please plan on attending the next meeting and Bring a friend! > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Date: Wed, June, 11, 2003 at 6:30 p.m. > > Location: UACT - University of Advancing Computer Technology > 2625 West Baseline Road, Tempe, Arizona > > (Just south and west of Fry's Electronics) > > Plenty of parking, meeting held in the 1st floor Theater > > * Free refreshments before the meeting at the UACT > provided by our Platinum Sponsor Sun Microsystems > > * Free Beer and Mexican food after at Aunt Chilada's > provided by our Platinum Sponsor Sun Microsystems > > * Raffle: Sun ONE Starter Kit 7 CD sets > Screwdriver Sets > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Keynote: Sun ONE - Technologies, standards and futures > > Abstract: This presentation will provide PHXJUG members with an > overview of Sun ONE technologies and core products, and > provide an update on new features to be released for key > products. You will learn how Sun is using Open Standards to > enable the Services driven architecture, reducing software > complexity, increasing integration between products, and > simplifying product delivery . We will spend time on new > initiatives and tools for Java Web Services Developers. We > will explain where N1 fits with Sun ONE. > > Speaker: Gavin Harrison, Sun ONE Systems Engineer > Sun Microsystems > > Bio: Gavin is a Systems Engineer with Sun Microsystems based in > Phoenix, and currently specialises in the Sun ONE/Java Web > Services solutions from Sun. Gavin has over 13 years > experience in IT, and has worked for a wide range of > vendors, customers and industries, in locations worldwide > covering the spectrum of Hardware, Services, Middleware and > Application solutions. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Update: State of the User's Group Address > > Abstract: The Phoenix Java User's Group new president will > discuss the state of the group, plans for the future, > and describe leadership opportunities. > > Speaker: Todd Ellermann > president@phxjug.org > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Real World: Developing Wireless Java Applications Using J2ME - Part 1 > > Abstract: This talk is an introduction to J2ME and describes the > relationship of the gobbledygook or acronyms known as the > CLDC, CDC, and MIDP. From there we discuss the features and > packages of the Java language available to the wireless > device developer, and how to get started developing J2ME > applications using the Java Wireless Toolkit. > > Speaker: Jeffrey Peacock, jeffp@JeffreyPeacock.com > > Bio: Jeffrey Peacock is a 23-year veteran of Software Application > Development. Early in his career he spent 6 intense years > working for AT&T Bell Laboratories developing an Object > Oriented language (similar to Sun's Java), an Object > database, Object Oriented development/lifecycle tools, and > UNIX System OS development. He's worked on various projects > with Sun Microsystems, HP, AT&T and US West, including > leadership positions in design and development of > Hierarchical Storage Management, Interactive Cable, > E-Commerce, Multi-Tier Web, and Medical Practice Management > applications. He has been working with Java since 1995, > J2EE since 1998, and J2ME since 2000. He is also a trained > EMT, CPR/1st-AID instructor, SCUBA instructor, and > instrument rated pilot. > > Jeffrey spent some of his early childhood in Phoenix and > Tempe and recently relocated back to the valley from Boulder > Colorado, to be near his family and work on his golf game. > He is currently working as a consultant providing project > management guidance and architectural analysis, and > developing handheld applications for Palm devices utilizing > J2ME. > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > > ===================================================================== > > Daniel J. Mazzola /\ > Technical Account Manager \\ \ > \ \\ / > Sun Microsystems / \/ / / > 2398 East Camelback Road, Suite 950 / / \//\ > Phoenix, AZ 85016 \//\ / / > / / /\ / > Voice Mail: (602) 224-3523 / \\ \ > Fax: (602) 224-9831 \ \\ > E-mail: dan.mazzola@sun.com \/ > > ===================================================================== > > -- > To unsubscribe, send a message to announce-request@phxjug.org with > "unsubscribe" in the *subject line*. If you have problems, send a > message to 'listmaster@phxjug.org'. > > ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Even the safest course is fraught with peril. From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com Fri Jun 13 16:40:57 2003 From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Doug Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:17:01 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: I am the very model of a modern SCO executive Message-ID: <3EEA44E9.5060302@bpxinternet.com> Hey, Bob, is this what you were talking about? http://twiki.iwethey.org/twiki/bin/view/Main/PiratesOfPenguinance From scott at illogics.org Sat Jun 14 05:19:33 2003 From: scott at illogics.org (Scott Walters) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:17:01 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: amusing link of the day Message-ID: <20030614101932.GZ20479@illogics.org> http://www.perlcabal.com/real.html and, in particular, http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/Pictures/Trips/2000/00-06-YAPC/Day-3-Fri/Hooters/hoot_58.jpg -scott From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com Mon Jun 16 12:16:21 2003 From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Doug Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:17:01 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: amusing link of the day In-Reply-To: <20030614101932.GZ20479@illogics.org> References: <20030614101932.GZ20479@illogics.org> Message-ID: <3EEDFB65.9010501@bpxinternet.com> Scott Walters wrote: >http://www.perlcabal.com/real.html > >and, in particular, > >http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/Pictures/Trips/2000/00-06-YAPC/Day-3-Fri/Hooters/hoot_58.jpg > >-scott > > > Hey, I have that Captain Perl on top my monitor. :) From brooksj at asu.edu Tue Jun 17 20:08:17 2003 From: brooksj at asu.edu (Jo Brooks) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:17:01 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: [fwd] [aztech-work] Need PHP, Apache, Verisign e-commerce knowledgeable, Perl EXPERT coder Message-ID: <200306180108.h5I18HXc001648@enws948.eas.asu.edu> not involved with this at all, just forwarding it to the list: >Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 19:27:44 EDT >From: AzProgrammer4You@aol.com >To: aztech-work@yahoogroups.com > >Hello, > >Im looking for someone who is an expert in developing online e-commerce >websites built with some php, alot of perl cgi and knows the apache/linux >system as well as someone who knows how to connect to Verisigns Pay Flow > system. If you are an expert please email me right away. > >Also looking for someone with a few years Blackberry experience/programming. >Please send resume. > >No third parties please. No recruiters. > >Please send resume asap. > >Thank you. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Jo Brooks, Tech Support Analyst, Sr brooksj at asu dot edu Arizona State University Telecommunications Research Center "This is a Unix system...I know this!" From phx-pm-list at grueslayer.com Wed Jun 25 15:19:41 2003 From: phx-pm-list at grueslayer.com (David A. Sinck) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:17:01 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: fwd: [GeekJobs Discuss] PERL programmer position References: <000901c33b37$72265260$0300a8c0@surfnetmedia.com> Message-ID: <16122.989.115448.935652@magnitude.righthandgraphics.com> forwarded from GeekJobs for those who might be interested. \_ SMTP quoth Mike Childers on 6/25/2003 09:32 as having spake thusly: \_ \_ Hey all! \_ \_ I am looking for a PERL programmer if there is anyone interested. The \_ following is the ad that I have posted. It is a full time position, not \_ a short-term position. \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ \_ Software Developer Needed! Tempe Arizona company currently looking for a \_ software developer who is fluent in Perl under Linux. Must have firm \_ grasp of Perl referencing techniques, extending Perl and creating Perl \_ packages. The qualified candidate must be a self-starter and able to \_ work well with others. Each potential candidate will be required to \_ submit original code samples as well as complete an on-site aptitude \_ test. Please email m \_ ike.childers@surfnetmedia.com with resume and salary requirements. \_ \_ Mike Childers \_ Director of Information Technology \_ SurfNet Media Group Inc. From scott at illogics.org Thu Jun 26 04:09:49 2003 From: scott at illogics.org (Scott Walters) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:17:01 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: ICFP contest coming up Message-ID: <20030626090949.GN21034@illogics.org> Howdy folks... Me not being ready and then scheduling conflicts delayed the next meeting a while. Sorry about that. The International Functional Programming Competition is upon us! Perl has had numerous entries each and every year, and yet has never won. Who will stand up and fight with me? Who will defend the honor and glory of Perl against cleaner, more elegant languages? http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/groups/icfpcontest/index.html Top three entries (think there were 300 or so last year) win a trip to the Functional Programming convention, in lovely Sweden this year, and $1500 in prizes, too =) Reguardless, it is always challenging, open ended, and a wonderful way to have fun and improve your hacking skills. Entries need not be done in functional style, though the competitions (algorithms, AI, etc) are designed to favor the style. Last year, I did something with a basard mix of OO and functional programming that still amuses the heck out of me. (Should code be funny? I don't know.) The contest spans three days (take Monday off). Last year, the AI robots competed head to head and in an elimination to select the winner, so scoring is fair. It starts this weekend, if I read it right. I'd love to get a band of hackers together. If people want to spend (or all) of the three days working in physical proximity, my home is available. I have a guest room and a fold out couch. Safeway sells Jolt, and I can stock up on organic sumatra. Sorry, Fountain Hills is a tweak free zone. Go to Mesa for that. No one is too young or too old, and intermediate and novice programmers are welcome. To learn more about Functional Programming, poke at that site, or better yet, go to http://perldesignpatterns.com/?FunctionalProgramming. They can take our freedom, but they can never our pride! -scott From Peter.Loo at bannerhealth.com Thu Jun 26 11:22:21 2003 From: Peter.Loo at bannerhealth.com (Loo, Peter) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:17:01 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: ICFP contest coming up Message-ID: Hi Scott, I would love to offer my knowledge and time to this cause. I have never attended any of the meeting or events so I think it is about time. I have done quite a bit of PERL programming, but in the past year or so, I have done very little. I will contribute whatever necessary. Count me in. Peter Loo Banner Health 1441 N. 12th Street, Phoenix, AZ 85008 (602) 495-4305 -----Original Message----- From: Scott Walters [mailto:scott@illogics.org] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 2:10 AM To: phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org Subject: Phoenix.pm: ICFP contest coming up Howdy folks... Me not being ready and then scheduling conflicts delayed the next meeting a while. Sorry about that. The International Functional Programming Competition is upon us! Perl has had numerous entries each and every year, and yet has never won. Who will stand up and fight with me? Who will defend the honor and glory of Perl against cleaner, more elegant languages? http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/groups/icfpcontest/index.html Top three entries (think there were 300 or so last year) win a trip to the Functional Programming convention, in lovely Sweden this year, and $1500 in prizes, too =) Reguardless, it is always challenging, open ended, and a wonderful way to have fun and improve your hacking skills. Entries need not be done in functional style, though the competitions (algorithms, AI, etc) are designed to favor the style. Last year, I did something with a basard mix of OO and functional programming that still amuses the heck out of me. (Should code be funny? I don't know.) The contest spans three days (take Monday off). Last year, the AI robots competed head to head and in an elimination to select the winner, so scoring is fair. It starts this weekend, if I read it right. I'd love to get a band of hackers together. If people want to spend (or all) of the three days working in physical proximity, my home is available. I have a guest room and a fold out couch. Safeway sells Jolt, and I can stock up on organic sumatra. Sorry, Fountain Hills is a tweak free zone. Go to Mesa for that. No one is too young or too old, and intermediate and novice programmers are welcome. To learn more about Functional Programming, poke at that site, or better yet, go to http://perldesignpatterns.com/?FunctionalProgramming. They can take our freedom, but they can never our pride! -scott From cakrum at cox.net Thu Jun 26 21:15:44 2003 From: cakrum at cox.net (Chris Krum) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:17:01 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: ICFP contest coming up References: <20030626090949.GN21034@illogics.org> Message-ID: <003401c33c52$040001c0$66070344@ph.cox.net> Hi Scott. This sounds like fun. Unfortunately, I'm going on vacation next week so I'll be pretty busy this weekend. I'd like to get involved though. Let me know if I can be of any help. BTW I got a chance to poke around perldesignpatterns a little. Cool site. Regards, Chris. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Walters" To: Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 2:09 AM Subject: Phoenix.pm: ICFP contest coming up > Howdy folks... > > Me not being ready and then scheduling conflicts delayed the next meeting > a while. Sorry about that. > > The International Functional Programming Competition is upon us! Perl > has had numerous entries each and every year, and yet has never won. > > Who will stand up and fight with me? Who will defend the honor and glory > of Perl against cleaner, more elegant languages? > > http://www.dtek.chalmers.se/groups/icfpcontest/index.html > > Top three entries (think there were 300 or so last year) win a trip > to the Functional Programming convention, in lovely Sweden this year, > and $1500 in prizes, too =) Reguardless, it is always challenging, > open ended, and a wonderful way to have fun and improve your > hacking skills. > > Entries need not be done in functional style, though the competitions > (algorithms, AI, etc) are designed to favor the style. Last year, I > did something with a basard mix of OO and functional programming that > still amuses the heck out of me. (Should code be funny? I don't know.) > > The contest spans three days (take Monday off). Last year, the AI robots > competed head to head and in an elimination to select the winner, so scoring is > fair. > > It starts this weekend, if I read it right. I'd love to get a band > of hackers together. If people want to spend (or all) of the three > days working in physical proximity, my home is available. I have > a guest room and a fold out couch. Safeway sells Jolt, and I can > stock up on organic sumatra. Sorry, Fountain Hills is a tweak > free zone. Go to Mesa for that. No one is too young or too old, > and intermediate and novice programmers are welcome. > > To learn more about Functional Programming, poke at that site, or better > yet, go to http://perldesignpatterns.com/?FunctionalProgramming. > > They can take our freedom, but they can never our pride! > > -scott > From scott at illogics.org Fri Jun 27 21:29:39 2003 From: scott at illogics.org (Scott Walters) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:17:01 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: ICFP contest Message-ID: <20030628022939.GU21034@illogics.org> Thanks to everyone who contacted me, on and off the list. People didn't have enough notice to dedicate much time to this, and I'm really too busy and should be doing real work, but I'm chatting about solutions with a friend on WeeHours (telnet to weehours.net 2000). I'm thinking of starting with a spline and using a genetic algorithm to tweak it with reguards to which parts to accelerate through and go wider, and which parts to slow in, to take it tighter or not run off the road due to more acceleration earlier. As much fun as this is, like I said, I shouldn't be doing this, but we'll see ;) http://icfpcontest.org, by the way. Perhaps I'll petition Doug to make this an official phoenix.pm event next year ;) -scott