Hi folks, We're here at PPM and there was a disucssion of how to get debug what is locking up. I suggested this: $SIG{INT} = sub { require Carp; Carp::croak(); }; Then when it locks up, just kill -INT it. >From http://perldesignpatterns.com/?DebuggingPattern. Kind of a little FAQ for the #perlhelp newbies mostly ;) -scott