From phaedrus at contactdesigns.com Fri Sep 7 14:29:38 2001 From: phaedrus at contactdesigns.com (Scott Walters) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Fwd: PERL, PHP and Linux Jobs In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010830183908.02611c10@mail.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Yo. Did we slide by a meeting time? I started to feel the itch, but have heard nothing yet. Of course, looking at a calender is too scientific for these sorts of things. Perhaps I've bounced too many messages and been kicked off the list =) I've been working on a Fuzzy Logic module. The one on CPAN is minimal to the point of missing serious points. I'm trying to do something powerful enough for good creature AI, yet usable enough for laymen. At some point I'd like to post it to the list and get usability feedback. I don't want to present a fuzzy-logic-how-to unless atleast a few people are willing to give me pre-presentation feedback (*guilt* *guilt* *guilt*). I want to turn over a new leaf and write code that is liable to be used by someone besides myself =) I'll post a little later. -scott On Thu, 30 Aug 2001, Doug and Julie Miles wrote: > I wouldn't normally forward spam, but I know some of you are looking for > jobs. Hopefully this is useful... > > > > >Dear Sir/Madam, > > > >We would like to invite you to visit our new job portal at > >http://www.openoid.com, > >dedicated to "Open Source Community" in the spirit of "Open Source". > > > >You are welcome to search/post unlimited of IT related jobs in Openoid.com > >for free. > > > >Visit us now at http://www.openoid.com > > > >Thank you for your time. > > > >Best regards, > > > >Stanley Quek, > >Site Manager, > >Openoid.com > >Note: This is not a mailing list. > > > From Rob.Svirskas at motorola.com Fri Sep 7 18:11:52 2001 From: Rob.Svirskas at motorola.com (Svirskas Rob-ERS007) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Fwd: PERL, PHP and Linux Jobs Message-ID: <07077F6C2A38D511920800D0B7821B322A4543@il06exm01.corp.mot.com> Scott; The meeting was last night (not a big turnout - just 3 of us). You missed the Open Source Conference summary (including the madness of Damian Conway). - Rob -----Original Message----- From: Scott Walters [mailto:phaedrus@contactdesigns.com] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:30 PM To: phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org Subject: Re: Phoenix.pm: Fwd: PERL, PHP and Linux Jobs Yo. Did we slide by a meeting time? I started to feel the itch, but have heard nothing yet. Of course, looking at a calender is too scientific for these sorts of things. Perhaps I've bounced too many messages and been kicked off the list =) I've been working on a Fuzzy Logic module. The one on CPAN is minimal to the point of missing serious points. I'm trying to do something powerful enough for good creature AI, yet usable enough for laymen. At some point I'd like to post it to the list and get usability feedback. I don't want to present a fuzzy-logic-how-to unless atleast a few people are willing to give me pre-presentation feedback (*guilt* *guilt* *guilt*). I want to turn over a new leaf and write code that is liable to be used by someone besides myself =) I'll post a little later. -scott On Thu, 30 Aug 2001, Doug and Julie Miles wrote: > I wouldn't normally forward spam, but I know some of you are looking for > jobs. Hopefully this is useful... > > > > >Dear Sir/Madam, > > > >We would like to invite you to visit our new job portal at > >http://www.openoid.com, > >dedicated to "Open Source Community" in the spirit of "Open Source". > > > >You are welcome to search/post unlimited of IT related jobs in Openoid.com > >for free. > > > >Visit us now at http://www.openoid.com > > > >Thank you for your time. > > > >Best regards, > > > >Stanley Quek, > >Site Manager, > >Openoid.com > >Note: This is not a mailing list. > > > From scytale at techie.com Sat Sep 8 09:38:07 2001 From: scytale at techie.com (scytale@techie.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: PM meeting? Message-ID: <20010908143808.32505.qmail@mail.com> I did not get the message that we were having a meeting. I am also on a Perl Begineers list and get about 100 a day from them. Could you put PM in the subject header so I know that the email I get is with PerlMongers? -----Original Message----- From: Scott Walters Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 15:29:38 -0400 (EDT) To: phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org Subject: Re: Phoenix.pm: Fwd: PERL, PHP and Linux Jobs > > Yo. > > Did we slide by a meeting time? I started to feel the itch, but have heard nothing yet. > Of course, looking at a calender is too scientific for these sorts of things. Perhaps > I've bounced too many messages and been kicked off the list =) > > I've been working on a Fuzzy Logic module. The one on CPAN is minimal to the point of > missing serious points. I'm trying to do something powerful enough for good creature AI, > yet usable enough for laymen. At some point I'd like to post it to the list and get > usability feedback. I don't want to present a fuzzy-logic-how-to unless atleast a few > people are willing to give me pre-presentation feedback (*guilt* *guilt* *guilt*). I > want to turn over a new leaf and write code that is liable to be used by someone besides > myself =) > > I'll post a little later. > > -scott > > On Thu, 30 Aug 2001, Doug and Julie Miles wrote: > > > I wouldn't normally forward spam, but I know some of you are looking for > > jobs. Hopefully this is useful... > > > > > > > > >Dear Sir/Madam, > > > > > >We would like to invite you to visit our new job portal at > > >http://www.openoid.com, > > >dedicated to "Open Source Community" in the spirit of "Open Source". > > > > > >You are welcome to search/post unlimited of IT related jobs in Openoid.com > > >for free. > > > > > >Visit us now at http://www.openoid.com > > > > > >Thank you for your time. > > > > > >Best regards, > > > > > >Stanley Quek, > > >Site Manager, > > >Openoid.com > > >Note: This is not a mailing list. > > > > > > > > -- _______________________________________________ FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Talk More, Pay Less with Net2Phone Direct(R), up to 1500 minutes free! http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?143 From djmilesfamily at earthlink.net Sat Sep 8 13:10:29 2001 From: djmilesfamily at earthlink.net (Doug and Julie Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: PM meeting? In-Reply-To: <20010908143808.32505.qmail@mail.com> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010908110956.03bf4b90@mail.earthlink.net> At 10:38 PM 9/8/01 +0800, you wrote: >I did not get the message that we were having a meeting. I am also on a >Perl Begineers list and get about 100 a day from them. Could you put PM in >the subject header so I know that the email I get is with PerlMongers? Every message comes through with Phoenix.pm in the subject line. >-----Original Message----- >From: Scott Walters >Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 15:29:38 -0400 (EDT) >To: phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org >Subject: Re: Phoenix.pm: Fwd: PERL, PHP and Linux Jobs > > > > > > Yo. > > > > Did we slide by a meeting time? I started to feel the itch, but have > heard nothing yet. > > Of course, looking at a calender is too scientific for these sorts of > things. Perhaps > > I've bounced too many messages and been kicked off the list =) > > > > I've been working on a Fuzzy Logic module. The one on CPAN is minimal > to the point of > > missing serious points. I'm trying to do something powerful enough for > good creature AI, > > yet usable enough for laymen. At some point I'd like to post it to the > list and get > > usability feedback. I don't want to present a fuzzy-logic-how-to unless > atleast a few > > people are willing to give me pre-presentation feedback (*guilt* > *guilt* *guilt*). I > > want to turn over a new leaf and write code that is liable to be used > by someone besides > > myself =) > > > > I'll post a little later. > > > > -scott > > > > On Thu, 30 Aug 2001, Doug and Julie Miles wrote: > > > > > I wouldn't normally forward spam, but I know some of you are looking for > > > jobs. Hopefully this is useful... > > > > > > > > > > > > >Dear Sir/Madam, > > > > > > > >We would like to invite you to visit our new job portal at > > > >http://www.openoid.com, > > > >dedicated to "Open Source Community" in the spirit of "Open Source". > > > > > > > >You are welcome to search/post unlimited of IT related jobs in > Openoid.com > > > >for free. > > > > > > > >Visit us now at http://www.openoid.com > > > > > > > >Thank you for your time. > > > > > > > >Best regards, > > > > > > > >Stanley Quek, > > > >Site Manager, > > > >Openoid.com > > > >Note: This is not a mailing list. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-- > >_______________________________________________ >FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com >http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup > >Talk More, Pay Less with Net2Phone Direct(R), up to 1500 minutes free! >http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?143 From djmilesfamily at earthlink.net Sat Sep 8 13:13:49 2001 From: djmilesfamily at earthlink.net (Doug and Julie Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Fwd: PERL, PHP and Linux Jobs In-Reply-To: References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010830183908.02611c10@mail.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010908111205.03bf8670@mail.earthlink.net> At 03:29 PM 9/7/01 -0400, you wrote: >Yo. > >Did we slide by a meeting time? I started to feel the itch, but have heard >nothing yet. >Of course, looking at a calender is too scientific for these sorts of >things. Perhaps >I've bounced too many messages and been kicked off the list =) I apologize to those who did not receive the message. There must have been some sort of problem with the list. Did anyone receive it? >I've been working on a Fuzzy Logic module. The one on CPAN is minimal to >the point of >missing serious points. I'm trying to do something powerful enough for >good creature AI, >yet usable enough for laymen. At some point I'd like to post it to the >list and get >usability feedback. I don't want to present a fuzzy-logic-how-to unless >atleast a few >people are willing to give me pre-presentation feedback (*guilt* *guilt* >*guilt*). I >want to turn over a new leaf and write code that is liable to be used by >someone besides >myself =) > >I'll post a little later. Sounds good... From djmilesfamily at earthlink.net Sat Sep 8 13:15:10 2001 From: djmilesfamily at earthlink.net (Doug and Julie Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Fwd: PERL, PHP and Linux Jobs In-Reply-To: <07077F6C2A38D511920800D0B7821B322A4543@il06exm01.corp.mot. com> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010908111401.03bfb590@mail.earthlink.net> At 06:11 PM 9/7/01 -0500, you wrote: >Scott; > The meeting was last night (not a big turnout - just 3 of us). You > missed the Open Source Conference summary (including the madness of > Damian Conway). > - Rob It was a great presentation. It looks like our lack of turnout might have been due to technical difficulties. :( From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com Mon Sep 10 11:23:51 2001 From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Doug Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Mailing list problems was: (Re: Phoenix.pm: Fwd: PERL, PHP and Linux Jobs) References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010830183908.02611c10@mail.earthlink.net> <5.0.2.1.0.20010908111205.03bf8670@mail.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <3B9CE917.2000406@bpxinternet.com> Doug and Julie Miles wrote: > At 03:29 PM 9/7/01 -0400, you wrote: > >> Yo. >> >> Did we slide by a meeting time? I started to feel the itch, but have >> heard nothing yet. >> Of course, looking at a calender is too scientific for these sorts of >> things. Perhaps >> I've bounced too many messages and been kicked off the list =) > > > I apologize to those who did not receive the message. There must have > been some sort of problem with the list. Did anyone receive it? > Hellooooo... Did anyone receive this message? I'm getting messages back, but I'm trying to determine if there is a mailing list issue. Please give me some feedback. From Bryan.Lane at VITALPS.COM Mon Sep 10 11:49:55 2001 From: Bryan.Lane at VITALPS.COM (Bryan Lane) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Fwd: PERL, PHP and Linux Jobs Message-ID: <219B26AF200FD411A11200805FE6EF2503B3F600@tef00021.vitalps.com> Actually, no. I guess I just knew about it word of mouth. > -----Original Message----- > From: Doug and Julie Miles [SMTP:djmilesfamily@earthlink.net] > Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 11:14 AM > To: phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org > Subject: Re: Phoenix.pm: Fwd: PERL, PHP and Linux Jobs > > At 03:29 PM 9/7/01 -0400, you wrote: > > >Yo. > > > >Did we slide by a meeting time? I started to feel the itch, but have > heard > >nothing yet. > >Of course, looking at a calender is too scientific for these sorts of > >things. Perhaps > >I've bounced too many messages and been kicked off the list =) > > I apologize to those who did not receive the message. There must have > been > some sort of problem with the list. Did anyone receive it? > > >I've been working on a Fuzzy Logic module. The one on CPAN is minimal to > >the point of > >missing serious points. I'm trying to do something powerful enough for > >good creature AI, > >yet usable enough for laymen. At some point I'd like to post it to the > >list and get > >usability feedback. I don't want to present a fuzzy-logic-how-to unless > >atleast a few > >people are willing to give me pre-presentation feedback (*guilt* *guilt* > >*guilt*). I > >want to turn over a new leaf and write code that is liable to be used by > >someone besides > >myself =) > > > >I'll post a little later. > > Sounds good... From Craig.Frooninckx at acxiom.com Mon Sep 10 12:01:24 2001 From: Craig.Frooninckx at acxiom.com (Frooninckx Craig - cfroon) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Mailing list problems was: (Re: Phoenix.pm: Fwd: PERL, PHP an d Linux Jobs) Message-ID: <6B681776AD07ED4EBEEA5D961E43108848B77C@phxmx02.phx.acxiom.com> Yes, I got it, but I didn't get a meeting notification. Craig -----Original Message----- From: doug.miles@bpxinternet.com [mailto:doug.miles@bpxinternet.com] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 9:24 AM To: phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org Subject: Mailing list problems was: (Re: Phoenix.pm: Fwd: PERL, PHP and Linux Jobs) Doug and Julie Miles wrote: > At 03:29 PM 9/7/01 -0400, you wrote: > >> Yo. >> >> Did we slide by a meeting time? I started to feel the itch, but have >> heard nothing yet. >> Of course, looking at a calender is too scientific for these sorts of >> things. Perhaps >> I've bounced too many messages and been kicked off the list =) > > > I apologize to those who did not receive the message. There must have > been some sort of problem with the list. Did anyone receive it? > Hellooooo... Did anyone receive this message? I'm getting messages back, but I'm trying to determine if there is a mailing list issue. Please give me some feedback. From whitneyt at agcs.com Mon Sep 10 12:01:40 2001 From: whitneyt at agcs.com (Thomas Whitney) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Fwd: PERL, PHP and Linux Jobs References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010908111401.03bfb590@mail.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <3B9CF1F4.1F0159B9@agcs.com> I did not receive notification, and I was going to make this my first meeting to attend. Bummer, I would have loved to hear about the Open Source Conference. Oh well, I will shoot for the next one as my first. Tom Doug and Julie Miles wrote: > At 06:11 PM 9/7/01 -0500, you wrote: > >Scott; > > The meeting was last night (not a big turnout - just 3 of us). You > > missed the Open Source Conference summary (including the madness of > > Damian Conway). > > - Rob > > It was a great presentation. It looks like our lack of turnout might have > been due to technical difficulties. :( From Rob.Svirskas at motorola.com Mon Sep 10 12:02:12 2001 From: Rob.Svirskas at motorola.com (Svirskas Rob-ERS007) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Mailing list problems was: (Re: Phoenix.pm: Fwd: PERL, PHP an d Linux Jobs) Message-ID: <07077F6C2A38D511920800D0B7821B322A454B@il06exm01.corp.mot.com> Doug; I got this message (plus the other ones sent on Saturday). Ya know, to be honest, I don't recall receiving a notice for the last meeting. In other news, if there are enough people that missed last week's talk and were interested, I can certaily repeat it at some point. With redgard to the slide presentation, Mark-Jason Dominus has graciously allowed me to have his code in the slides. Still working on Damian. - Rob -----Original Message----- From: doug.miles@bpxinternet.com [mailto:doug.miles@bpxinternet.com] Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 9:24 AM To: phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org Subject: Mailing list problems was: (Re: Phoenix.pm: Fwd: PERL, PHP and Linux Jobs) Doug and Julie Miles wrote: > At 03:29 PM 9/7/01 -0400, you wrote: > >> Yo. >> >> Did we slide by a meeting time? I started to feel the itch, but have >> heard nothing yet. >> Of course, looking at a calender is too scientific for these sorts of >> things. Perhaps >> I've bounced too many messages and been kicked off the list =) > > > I apologize to those who did not receive the message. There must have > been some sort of problem with the list. Did anyone receive it? > Hellooooo... Did anyone receive this message? I'm getting messages back, but I'm trying to determine if there is a mailing list issue. Please give me some feedback. From Bryan.Lane at VITALPS.COM Mon Sep 10 12:04:53 2001 From: Bryan.Lane at VITALPS.COM (Bryan Lane) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Mailing list problems was: (Re: Phoenix.pm: Fwd: PERL, PHP an d Linux Jobs) Message-ID: <219B26AF200FD411A11200805FE6EF2503B3F601@tef00021.vitalps.com> Did you get my message? I said I didn't get it. I only heard about it by word of mouth. > -----Original Message----- > From: doug.miles@bpxinternet.com [SMTP:doug.miles@bpxinternet.com] > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 9:24 AM > To: phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org > Subject: Mailing list problems was: (Re: Phoenix.pm: Fwd: PERL, PHP > and Linux Jobs) > > Doug and Julie Miles wrote: > > At 03:29 PM 9/7/01 -0400, you wrote: > > > >> Yo. > >> > >> Did we slide by a meeting time? I started to feel the itch, but have > >> heard nothing yet. > >> Of course, looking at a calender is too scientific for these sorts of > >> things. Perhaps > >> I've bounced too many messages and been kicked off the list =) > > > > > > I apologize to those who did not receive the message. There must have > > been some sort of problem with the list. Did anyone receive it? > > > > Hellooooo... Did anyone receive this message? I'm getting messages > back, but I'm trying to determine if there is a mailing list issue. > Please give me some feedback. > From scytale at techie.com Mon Sep 10 12:39:50 2001 From: scytale at techie.com (Roger Vasquez) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Mailing list problems was: (Re: Phoenix.pm: Fwd: PERL, PHP and Linux Jobs) Message-ID: <20010910173951.13837.qmail@mail.com> I did not recieve any notification. -----Original Message----- From: doug.miles@bpxinternet.com (Doug Miles) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 09:23:51 -0700 To: phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org Subject: Mailing list problems was: (Re: Phoenix.pm: Fwd: PERL, PHP and Linux Jobs) > Doug and Julie Miles wrote: > > At 03:29 PM 9/7/01 -0400, you wrote: > > > >> Yo. > >> > >> Did we slide by a meeting time? I started to feel the itch, but have > >> heard nothing yet. > >> Of course, looking at a calender is too scientific for these sorts of > >> things. Perhaps > >> I've bounced too many messages and been kicked off the list =) > > > > > > I apologize to those who did not receive the message. There must have > > been some sort of problem with the list. Did anyone receive it? > > > > Hellooooo... Did anyone receive this message? I'm getting messages > back, but I'm trying to determine if there is a mailing list issue. > Please give me some feedback. > > > -- _______________________________________________ FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Talk More, Pay Less with Net2Phone Direct(R), up to 1500 minutes free! http://www.net2phone.com/cgi-bin/link.cgi?143 From Linda.L.Collins at bankofamerica.com Mon Sep 10 12:37:02 2001 From: Linda.L.Collins at bankofamerica.com (Linda.L.Collins@bankofamerica.com) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: unsubscribe please Message-ID: <88256AC3.0061CD3F.00@memsfomta01.bankamerica.com> From macnaughtan at hotmail.com Mon Sep 10 12:54:02 2001 From: macnaughtan at hotmail.com (Heather Macnaughtan) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Mailing list problems was: (Re: Phoenix.pm: Fwd: PERL, PHP and Linux Jobs) Message-ID: I didn't see the meeting notification either, but boy am I getting a lot of list messages now! ;-) _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com Mon Sep 10 12:55:57 2001 From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Doug Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Mailing list problems was: (Re: Phoenix.pm: Fwd: PERL, PHP an d Linux Jobs) References: <07077F6C2A38D511920800D0B7821B322A454B@il06exm01.corp.mot.com> Message-ID: <3B9CFEAD.1000905@bpxinternet.com> Svirskas Rob-ERS007 wrote: > Doug; > I got this message (plus the other ones sent on Saturday). Ya know, to be honest, I don't recall receiving a notice for the last meeting. > In other news, if there are enough people that missed last week's talk and were interested, I can certaily repeat it at some point. With redgard to the slide presentation, Mark-Jason Dominus has graciously allowed me to have his code in the slides. Still working on Damian. > - Rob This works for me. It sounds like there is enough interest. > -----Original Message----- > From: doug.miles@bpxinternet.com [mailto:doug.miles@bpxinternet.com] > Sent: Monday, September 10, 2001 9:24 AM > To: phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org > Subject: Mailing list problems was: (Re: Phoenix.pm: Fwd: PERL, PHP and > Linux Jobs) > > > Doug and Julie Miles wrote: > >>At 03:29 PM 9/7/01 -0400, you wrote: >> >> >>>Yo. >>> >>>Did we slide by a meeting time? I started to feel the itch, but have >>>heard nothing yet. >>>Of course, looking at a calender is too scientific for these sorts of >>>things. Perhaps >>>I've bounced too many messages and been kicked off the list =) >>> >> >>I apologize to those who did not receive the message. There must have >>been some sort of problem with the list. Did anyone receive it? >> >> > > Hellooooo... Did anyone receive this message? I'm getting messages > back, but I'm trying to determine if there is a mailing list issue. > Please give me some feedback. > > > From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com Mon Sep 10 12:59:06 2001 From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Doug Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Mailing list problems was: (Re: Phoenix.pm: Fwd: PERL, PHP and Linux Jobs) References: <20010910173951.13837.qmail@mail.com> Message-ID: <3B9CFF6A.40200@bpxinternet.com> Roger Vasquez wrote: > I did not recieve any notification. OK, thanks for the feedback everyone. Obviously nobody got it. There were some perl.org server issues going on around that time, so it may be related. I'll get with Rob to schedule him to make his presentation again. Appologies for the problems. From edelweiss at qwest.net Wed Sep 12 15:23:02 2001 From: edelweiss at qwest.net (EdelSys Consulting) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20010912132302.0079d730@pop.phnx.uswest.net> ah here http://www.yetanother.org/damian/September_11.html If you know of any NYC perlers or perlers that would happen to be in NYC that are ok, let damian know ok on irc.memepool.com? oh sorry heh damian@conway.org ok From erik.tank at bpxinternet.com Thu Sep 13 15:40:31 2001 From: erik.tank at bpxinternet.com (Erik Tank) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Getting a name of a variable. In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20010912132302.0079d730@pop.phnx.uswest.net> Message-ID: I have a debugging module that I have been working on. One of the methods prints out the contents of a hash that is passed to it. I think that it would be cool to have the name of the hash appear above the output. Does anyone know how to take a variable an get it's name? Thanks, Erik Tank 602-817-4705 erik.tank@bpxinternet.com From Bryan.Lane at VITALPS.COM Thu Sep 13 16:14:53 2001 From: Bryan.Lane at VITALPS.COM (Bryan Lane) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Getting a name of a variable. Message-ID: <219B26AF200FD411A11200805FE6EF2503B3F613@tef00021.vitalps.com> You could do a literal print. print "var", var; > -----Original Message----- > From: erik.tank@bpxinternet.com [SMTP:erik.tank@bpxinternet.com] > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 1:41 PM > To: phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org > Subject: Phoenix.pm: Getting a name of a variable. > > I have a debugging module that I have been working on. One of the methods > prints out the contents of a hash that is passed to it. I think that it > would be cool to have the name of the hash appear above the output. Does > anyone know how to take a variable an get it's name? > > Thanks, > > Erik Tank > 602-817-4705 > erik.tank@bpxinternet.com From Rob.Svirskas at motorola.com Thu Sep 13 17:06:41 2001 From: Rob.Svirskas at motorola.com (Svirskas Rob-ERS007) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Getting a name of a variable. Message-ID: <07077F6C2A38D511920800D0B7821B3202D06A96@il06exm01.corp.mot.com> In general, (well, in "main") this should work: my %some_hash = (a => 1, b => 2); my $name = *some_hash; print $name,"\n"; ...optionally, you can strip off the module name: my $name = (split(/::/,*some_hash))[-1]; print $name,"\n"; Of course, if you want to do this within a subroutine (which it sounds like the case), it gets hairy: sub printStuff { no strict 'refs'; my $name = shift; my $var = join '::',(caller)[0],$name; print $name,"\n"; print %$var,"\n"; } %some_hash = (a => 1, b => 2); &printStuff('some_hash'); ...of course, your %some_hash can't be declared with 'my', otherwise it won't be in the symbol table. This means that you can't be using strict 'vars' there. To be honest, Bryan's suggestion of print "var",%var; may not look particularly elegant, but it will work. The only hairball here would be printing the name of the variable that was passed in, and not the subroutine variable... - Rob -----Original Message----- From: erik.tank@bpxinternet.com [mailto:erik.tank@bpxinternet.com] Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 1:41 PM To: phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org Subject: Phoenix.pm: Getting a name of a variable. I have a debugging module that I have been working on. One of the methods prints out the contents of a hash that is passed to it. I think that it would be cool to have the name of the hash appear above the output. Does anyone know how to take a variable an get it's name? Thanks, Erik Tank 602-817-4705 erik.tank@bpxinternet.com From swessels at usgn.net Thu Sep 13 20:10:43 2001 From: swessels at usgn.net (Scott Wessels) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Getting a name of a variable. References: Message-ID: <002a01c13cba$142d9600$86cafa18@phnx3.az.home.com> here's a possibility: { my @file_contents; # cache file contents sub printHash(%) { my %hash = @_; unless (@file_contents) { open SELF, $0; @file_contents = ; close SELF; } print 'Contents of ', ($file_contents[(caller)[2] - 1] =~ m/printHash.*?%(\w+)/)[0], ":\n", map ({ qq{ $_\t => '$hash{$_}'\n} } keys %hash), "\n"; } } my %testHash = (test => 1, again => 'alpha'); printHash %testHash; modification may be necessary for finding the line that the call was made from ----- Original Message ----- From: Erik Tank To: Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 1:40 PM Subject: Phoenix.pm: Getting a name of a variable. > I have a debugging module that I have been working on. One of the methods > prints out the contents of a hash that is passed to it. I think that it > would be cool to have the name of the hash appear above the output. Does > anyone know how to take a variable an get it's name? > > Thanks, > > Erik Tank > 602-817-4705 > erik.tank@bpxinternet.com > > From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com Mon Sep 17 17:17:26 2001 From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Doug Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 09/20/2001 Message-ID: <3BA67676.1060305@bpxinternet.com> Rob is redoing his presentation. If you wanted to come last time, but didn't get the announcement, now is your chance! Lets make it worth Rob's while! We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, September 20th at 7:00PM. It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue, which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell. The parking lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting. Park in the lot that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell. Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space. Proceed to the main lobby, which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot. Rob will be presenting: O'Reilly Open Source Convention 2001 Conference Report (or, "How I Spent My Summer Vacation") -- - Doug Don't anthropomorphize computers. They hate that. From webmaster at azwebs.com Tue Sep 18 16:56:08 2001 From: webmaster at azwebs.com (Webmaster) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Got message but can't make it References: <3BA67676.1060305@bpxinternet.com> Message-ID: <004001c1408c$baabb9a0$c9fd8aac@computer> Sorry, can't make it this time, but just thought I'd RSVP so that you know that I received the email. Tim From Bryan.Lane at VITALPS.COM Tue Sep 18 19:01:42 2001 From: Bryan.Lane at VITALPS.COM (Bryan Lane) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 09/20/2001 Message-ID: <219B26AF200FD411A11200805FE6EF2503B3F62D@tef00021.vitalps.com> I will be there! I hope more people show up than last time. There may be the same crowd! > -----Original Message----- > From: doug.miles@bpxinternet.com [SMTP:doug.miles@bpxinternet.com] > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 3:17 PM > To: Phoenix.pm > Cc: Rose Keys > Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 09/20/2001 > > Rob is redoing his presentation. If you wanted to come last time, but > didn't get the announcement, now is your chance! Lets make it worth > Rob's while! > > We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, September 20th at 7:00PM. > It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue, > which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell. The parking > lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the > receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting. Park in the lot > that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell. > Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space. Proceed to the main lobby, > which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot. > > Rob will be presenting: > > O'Reilly Open Source Convention 2001 Conference Report > (or, "How I Spent My Summer Vacation") > > -- > - Doug > > Don't anthropomorphize computers. They hate that. > > > > > > From djmilesfamily at earthlink.net Tue Sep 18 20:07:04 2001 From: djmilesfamily at earthlink.net (Doug and Julie Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Got message but can't make it In-Reply-To: <004001c1408c$baabb9a0$c9fd8aac@computer> References: <3BA67676.1060305@bpxinternet.com> Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.0.20010918180653.0412b110@mail.earthlink.net> Thanks Tim! At 02:56 PM 9/18/01 -0700, you wrote: >Sorry, can't make it this time, but just thought I'd RSVP so that you know >that I received the email. > >Tim From swessels at usgn.net Tue Sep 18 20:55:30 2001 From: swessels at usgn.net (Scott Wessels) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 09/20/2001 References: <3BA67676.1060305@bpxinternet.com> Message-ID: <01dd01c140ae$29d38620$86cafa18@phnx3.az.home.com> I will be there [for the first time]. -Scott Wessels ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Miles" To: "Phoenix.pm" Cc: "Rose Keys" Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 3:17 PM Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 09/20/2001 > Rob is redoing his presentation. If you wanted to come last time, but > didn't get the announcement, now is your chance! Lets make it worth > Rob's while! > > We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, September 20th at 7:00PM. > It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue, > which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell. The parking > lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the > receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting. Park in the lot > that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell. > Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space. Proceed to the main lobby, > which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot. > > Rob will be presenting: > > O'Reilly Open Source Convention 2001 Conference Report > (or, "How I Spent My Summer Vacation") > > -- > - Doug > > Don't anthropomorphize computers. They hate that. > > > > > > > > From A16499 at motorola.com Wed Sep 19 10:37:23 2001 From: A16499 at motorola.com (Li Guoya-A16499) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 09/20/2001 Message-ID: <07077F6C2A38D511920800D0B7821B3234FD5A@il06exm01.corp.mot.com> I will be there, thanks. guoya -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Lane [mailto:Bryan.Lane@VITALPS.COM] Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 5:02 PM To: 'phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org' Subject: RE: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 09/20/2001 I will be there! I hope more people show up than last time. There may be the same crowd! > -----Original Message----- > From: doug.miles@bpxinternet.com [SMTP:doug.miles@bpxinternet.com] > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 3:17 PM > To: Phoenix.pm > Cc: Rose Keys > Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 09/20/2001 > > Rob is redoing his presentation. If you wanted to come last time, but > didn't get the announcement, now is your chance! Lets make it worth > Rob's while! > > We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, September 20th at 7:00PM. > It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue, > which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell. The parking > lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the > receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting. Park in the lot > that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell. > Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space. Proceed to the main lobby, > which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot. > > Rob will be presenting: > > O'Reilly Open Source Convention 2001 Conference Report > (or, "How I Spent My Summer Vacation") > > -- > - Doug > > Don't anthropomorphize computers. They hate that. > > > > > > From forsythe at primenet.com Thu Sep 20 02:06:50 2001 From: forsythe at primenet.com (Tran Forsythe) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 09/20/2001 References: <3BA67676.1060305@bpxinternet.com> Message-ID: <00aa01c141a2$d406b000$0401a8c0@dario> What the heck.. I'll see if I can't squeeze it into my busy schedule... ;) -Kurt From whitneyt at agcs.com Thu Sep 20 11:43:16 2001 From: whitneyt at agcs.com (Thomas Whitney) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 09/20/2001 References: <3BA67676.1060305@bpxinternet.com> <01dd01c140ae$29d38620$86cafa18@phnx3.az.home.com> Message-ID: <3BAA1CA4.394BBED7@agcs.com> I will be there. It will be my first time also. * Tom Whitney * Scott Wessels wrote: > I will be there [for the first time]. > > -Scott Wessels > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Miles" > To: "Phoenix.pm" > Cc: "Rose Keys" > Sent: Monday, September 17, 2001 3:17 PM > Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 09/20/2001 > > > Rob is redoing his presentation. If you wanted to come last time, but > > didn't get the announcement, now is your chance! Lets make it worth > > Rob's while! > > > > We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, September 20th at 7:00PM. > > It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue, > > which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell. The parking > > lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the > > receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting. Park in the lot > > that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell. > > Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space. Proceed to the main lobby, > > which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot. > > > > Rob will be presenting: > > > > O'Reilly Open Source Convention 2001 Conference Report > > (or, "How I Spent My Summer Vacation") > > > > -- > > - Doug > > > > Don't anthropomorphize computers. They hate that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From lajandy at yahoo.com Thu Sep 20 11:57:52 2001 From: lajandy at yahoo.com (Andrew Johnson) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 09/20/2001 In-Reply-To: <3BA67676.1060305@bpxinternet.com> Message-ID: <20010920165752.24955.qmail@web10101.mail.yahoo.com> I'll be there. --- Doug Miles wrote: > We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, September 20th at > 7:00PM. ===== __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ From macnaughtan at hotmail.com Thu Sep 20 12:12:55 2001 From: macnaughtan at hotmail.com (Heather Macnaughtan) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 09/20/2001 Message-ID: Sounds like quite a crowd! Count me in; I love a party. -Heather _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp From whitneyt at agcs.com Fri Sep 21 13:47:20 2001 From: whitneyt at agcs.com (Thomas Whitney) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 09/20/2001 References: <3BA67676.1060305@bpxinternet.com> Message-ID: <3BAB8B38.B6219FE2@agcs.com> Thanks Rob. It was a great presentation! It looks like I picked a good meeting to make my first attendance. It was also great to meet everybody. It is nice to finally put faces to some of the names I have been seeing for a while. * Tom Whitney * Doug Miles wrote: > Rob is redoing his presentation. If you wanted to come last time, but > didn't get the announcement, now is your chance! Lets make it worth > Rob's while! > > We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, September 20th at 7:00PM. > It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue, > which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell. The parking > lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the > receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting. Park in the lot > that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell. > Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space. Proceed to the main lobby, > which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot. > > Rob will be presenting: > > O'Reilly Open Source Convention 2001 Conference Report > (or, "How I Spent My Summer Vacation") > > -- > - Doug > > Don't anthropomorphize computers. They hate that. From bill at wlindley.com Fri Sep 21 14:15:32 2001 From: bill at wlindley.com (Bill Lindley) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Hope to see you all at RMS - SCC, Sunday, 6pm Message-ID: >From http://plug.phoenix.az.us/ Rishard Stallman will be speaking in Phoenix. Where: Scottsdale Community College, Chapparal Rd. east of Route 101, Student Center, Turquoise Room When: Sunday, September 23rd at 6:00 p.m. \\/ From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com Fri Sep 21 15:40:21 2001 From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Doug Miles) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Hope to see you all at RMS - SCC, Sunday, 6pm References: Message-ID: <3BABA5B5.1040407@bpxinternet.com> Bill Lindley wrote: > From > > http://plug.phoenix.az.us/ > > Rishard Stallman will be speaking in Phoenix. > > Where: Scottsdale Community College, Chapparal Rd. east of Route 101, > Student Center, Turquoise Room > > When: Sunday, September 23rd at 6:00 p.m. > And remember boys and girls... pronounce it GNU/Linux! :P From edelweiss at qwest.net Sat Sep 22 17:40:58 2001 From: edelweiss at qwest.net (EdelSys Consulting) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Hope to see you all at RMS - SCC, Sunday, 6pm In-Reply-To: <3BABA5B5.1040407@bpxinternet.com> References: Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20010922154058.0079c2a0@pop.phnx.uswest.net> At 01:40 PM 9/21/01 -0700, you wrote: >Bill Lindley wrote: >> From >> >> http://plug.phoenix.az.us/ >> >> Rishard Stallman will be speaking in Phoenix. >> >> Where: Scottsdale Community College, Chapparal Rd. east of Route 101, >> Student Center, Turquoise Room >> >> When: Sunday, September 23rd at 6:00 p.m. >> > >And remember boys and girls... pronounce it GNU/Linux! :P > > > Be there or be square! =) Tony From eden.li at asu.edu Sun Sep 23 16:27:39 2001 From: eden.li at asu.edu (Eden Li) Date: Thu Aug 5 00:16:29 2004 Subject: Phoenix.pm: Fw: [azipa] Perl programmer needed Message-ID: <002501c14476$937a4ca0$0acc56d1@clip> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2001 10:55:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Drake To: azipa@yahoogroups.com Subject: [azipa] Perl programmer needed Perl programmer needed in Phoenix for small to medium jobs part time on a contract basis. Please attach resume.