From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com  Wed Mar  7 09:17:09 2001
From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Doug Miles)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:22 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: [Fwd: pp.pl - new & improved]
Message-ID: <3AA650F5.17FD2916@bpxinternet.com>

Posting... :)

Heyo, Doug,

    Haven't seen you post the source for the last version of my per
proxy
script; if you haven't yet, feel free to just post this one.  If you
_have_,
lemme know and I'll post this as an update.

Thanks much,
-Kurt

ps: The only changes are minor bug-fixes; there's still the one bug
encountered when using it as a non-http proxy w/out specifying the
redirect
option.  No plans to fix it, as of yet.... probably only will if I get
harassed by enough users.

------

"Push to test."
<click>
"Release to detonate."
-Brad Morrison
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From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com  Wed Mar  7 11:38:32 2001
From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Doug Miles)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:22 2004
Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001
Message-ID: <3AA67218.853DD770@bpxinternet.com>

Please RSVP...

We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, March 8th at 7:00PM. 
It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue,
which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell.  The parking
lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the
receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting.  Park in the lot
that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell.
Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space.  Proceed to the main lobby,
which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot.

I will be presenting Perl 101 again for those who have missed it.  Next
meeting will be Perl 201.

-- 
- Doug

Don't anthropomorphize computers. They hate that.

From Bryan.Lane at VITALPS.COM  Wed Mar  7 11:43:47 2001
From: Bryan.Lane at VITALPS.COM (Bryan Lane)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:22 2004
Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001
Message-ID: <219B26AF200FD411A11200805FE6EF25F212EE@tef00021.vitalps.com>

Sorry, I'm not going to be able to come.  My wife has a class that night,
and I have to baby sit the kids.

Bryan

-----Original Message-----
From: doug.miles@bpxinternet.com [mailto:doug.miles@bpxinternet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Phoenix.pm
Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001


Please RSVP...

We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, March 8th at 7:00PM. 
It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue,
which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell.  The parking
lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the
receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting.  Park in the lot
that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell.
Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space.  Proceed to the main lobby,
which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot.

I will be presenting Perl 101 again for those who have missed it.  Next
meeting will be Perl 201.

-- 
- Doug

Don't anthropomorphize computers. They hate that.

From janis at primenet.com  Wed Mar  7 13:06:10 2001
From: janis at primenet.com (Janis)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:22 2004
Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001
In-Reply-To: <3AA67218.853DD770@bpxinternet.com> from "Doug Miles" at Mar 07, 2001 10:38:32 AM
Message-ID: <200103071906.MAA25092@usr05.primenet.com>

To avoid the risk of infecting everyone with the killerdeathcold, I'll
skip this one. :-|
-Heather

From eden.li at asu.edu  Wed Mar  7 16:17:23 2001
From: eden.li at asu.edu (Eden Li)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:22 2004
Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001
In-Reply-To: <219B26AF200FD411A11200805FE6EF25F212EE@tef00021.vitalps.com>; from Bryan.Lane@VITALPS.COM on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 10:43:47AM -0700
References: <219B26AF200FD411A11200805FE6EF25F212EE@tef00021.vitalps.com>
Message-ID: <20010307151723.A615@asu.edu>

I'm sorry to say I can't make it either.  PLUG is having a pretty
important meeting on that day :((

Eden

On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 10:43:47AM -0700, Bryan Lane wrote:
> Sorry, I'm not going to be able to come.  My wife has a class that night,
> and I have to baby sit the kids.

From phaedrus at contactdesigns.com  Wed Mar  7 14:14:13 2001
From: phaedrus at contactdesigns.com (Scott Walters)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:22 2004
Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001
In-Reply-To: <20010307151723.A615@asu.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10103071511050.22940-100000@linux732>


Eden Li,

So, what is PLUG up to? 

I'm tenatively planning to make it. To PM. I mean.

Hey, someone should video tape Perl 101 and 202 and turn them into mpegs and put 'em on the
website. 

-scott



On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Eden Li wrote:

> I'm sorry to say I can't make it either.  PLUG is having a pretty
> important meeting on that day :((
> 
> Eden
> 
> On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 10:43:47AM -0700, Bryan Lane wrote:
> > Sorry, I'm not going to be able to come.  My wife has a class that night,
> > and I have to baby sit the kids.
> 


From Bryan.Lane at VITALPS.COM  Wed Mar  7 17:56:24 2001
From: Bryan.Lane at VITALPS.COM (Bryan Lane)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:22 2004
Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001
Message-ID: <219B26AF200FD411A11200805FE6EF25F212F1@tef00021.vitalps.com>

I have a video camera, but I'm not going to be there:(

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Walters [mailto:phaedrus@contactdesigns.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 1:14 PM
To: phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org
Subject: Re: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001



Eden Li,

So, what is PLUG up to? 

I'm tenatively planning to make it. To PM. I mean.

Hey, someone should video tape Perl 101 and 202 and turn them into mpegs and
put 'em on the
website. 

-scott



On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Eden Li wrote:

> I'm sorry to say I can't make it either.  PLUG is having a pretty
> important meeting on that day :((
> 
> Eden
> 
> On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 10:43:47AM -0700, Bryan Lane wrote:
> > Sorry, I'm not going to be able to come.  My wife has a class that
night,
> > and I have to baby sit the kids.
> 

From A16499 at motorola.com  Wed Mar  7 18:16:30 2001
From: A16499 at motorola.com (Li Guoya-A16499)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:22 2004
Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001
Message-ID: <F142A45401DAD31191F0009027E326ED84BEA3@il06exm20.corp.mot.com>

Can you tell us what you are going to talk?? I mean "topics".
guoya Li

-----Original Message-----
From: doug.miles@bpxinternet.com [mailto:doug.miles@bpxinternet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Phoenix.pm
Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001


Please RSVP...

We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, March 8th at 7:00PM. 
It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue,
which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell.  The parking
lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the
receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting.  Park in the lot
that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell.
Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space.  Proceed to the main lobby,
which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot.

I will be presenting Perl 101 again for those who have missed it.  Next
meeting will be Perl 201.

-- 
- Doug

Don't anthropomorphize computers. They hate that.

From root at slowass.net  Wed Mar  7 19:39:12 2001
From: root at slowass.net (Scott Walters)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:22 2004
Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001
In-Reply-To: <F142A45401DAD31191F0009027E326ED84BEA3@il06exm20.corp.mot.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.NEB.4.20.0103071738160.20685-100000@straylight>


Doug is going to give an introduction to programming Perl for novices
and newcomers. That is, if he's telling the truth....

-scott

On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Li Guoya-A16499 wrote:

> Can you tell us what you are going to talk?? I mean "topics".
> guoya Li
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: doug.miles@bpxinternet.com [mailto:doug.miles@bpxinternet.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 10:39 AM
> To: Phoenix.pm
> Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001
> 
> 
> Please RSVP...
> 
> We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, March 8th at 7:00PM. 
> It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue,
> which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell.  The parking
> lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the
> receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting.  Park in the lot
> that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell.
> Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space.  Proceed to the main lobby,
> which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot.
> 
> I will be presenting Perl 101 again for those who have missed it.  Next
> meeting will be Perl 201.
> 
> -- 
> - Doug
> 
> Don't anthropomorphize computers. They hate that.
> 


From eden.li at asu.edu  Wed Mar  7 21:50:20 2001
From: eden.li at asu.edu (Eden Li)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:22 2004
Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001
References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10103071511050.22940-100000@linux732>
Message-ID: <002401c0a782$eb697d00$b9b6c240@winwin>

They're basically having a ``coming-to-terms'' meeting where they figure out
what they want to do and where they want to meet.  All that fun stuff.
Seems pretty important, and I want a peice of the action :P

Eden

From: "Scott Walters" <phaedrus@contactdesigns.com>
> So, what is PLUG up to?
>
> I'm tenatively planning to make it. To PM. I mean.
>
> Hey, someone should video tape Perl 101 and 202 and turn them into mpegs
and put 'em on the
> website.


From forsythe at primenet.com  Thu Mar  8 02:35:08 2001
From: forsythe at primenet.com (Tran Forsythe)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:22 2004
Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001
References: <219B26AF200FD411A11200805FE6EF25F212EE@tef00021.vitalps.com>
Message-ID: <005801c0a7aa$af89daa0$0301a8c0@tran>


Barring any explosions, I'll be attending; I always seem to pick up at
_least_ one new trick at these things ;)

-Kurt

------

"Push to test."
<click>
"Release to detonate."
-Brad Morrison



From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com  Thu Mar  8 11:24:27 2001
From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Doug Miles)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:22 2004
Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001
References: <Pine.NEB.4.20.0103071738160.20685-100000@straylight>
Message-ID: <3AA7C04B.1EEF432E@bpxinternet.com>

Scott Walters wrote:
> 
> Doug is going to give an introduction to programming Perl for novices
> and newcomers. That is, if he's telling the truth....

About the meeting or about Perl 101? :)  Scott is correct.  I'm just
covering the basics: scalars, arrays, hashes, subs, foreach... you get
the idea.

> -scott
> 
> On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Li Guoya-A16499 wrote:
> 
> > Can you tell us what you are going to talk?? I mean "topics".
> > guoya Li
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: doug.miles@bpxinternet.com [mailto:doug.miles@bpxinternet.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 10:39 AM
> > To: Phoenix.pm
> > Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001
> >
> >
> > Please RSVP...
> >
> > We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, March 8th at 7:00PM.
> > It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue,
> > which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell.  The parking
> > lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the
> > receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting.  Park in the lot
> > that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell.
> > Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space.  Proceed to the main lobby,
> > which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot.
> >
> > I will be presenting Perl 101 again for those who have missed it.  Next
> > meeting will be Perl 201.
> >
> > --
> > - Doug
> >
> > Don't anthropomorphize computers. They hate that.
> >

-- 
- Doug

Encrypted with ROT-26 - all attempts to decrypt are illegal under the
DMCA!

From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com  Thu Mar  8 11:25:18 2001
From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Doug Miles)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:22 2004
Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001
References: <219B26AF200FD411A11200805FE6EF25F212EE@tef00021.vitalps.com> <005801c0a7aa$af89daa0$0301a8c0@tran>
Message-ID: <3AA7C07E.4827CD7E@bpxinternet.com>

Tran Forsythe wrote:
> 
> Barring any explosions, I'll be attending; I always seem to pick up at
> _least_ one new trick at these things ;)
> 

Not to mention keeping me on my toes... :)

-- 
- Doug

Encrypted with ROT-26 - all attempts to decrypt are illegal under the
DMCA!

From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com  Thu Mar  8 11:28:00 2001
From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Doug Miles)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:22 2004
Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001
References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10103071511050.22940-100000@linux732> <002401c0a782$eb697d00$b9b6c240@winwin>
Message-ID: <3AA7C120.B58025E@bpxinternet.com>

Eden Li wrote:
> 
> They're basically having a ``coming-to-terms'' meeting where they figure out
> what they want to do and where they want to meet.  All that fun stuff.
> Seems pretty important, and I want a peice of the action :P
> 

I'm going to consult the PLUG website, and possibly swap the 1st Thu &
the 3rd Tue to the 1st Tue & the 3rd Thu.  If I don't confuse myself,
that is... :)

-- 
- Doug

Encrypted with ROT-26 - all attempts to decrypt are illegal under the
DMCA!

From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com  Thu Mar  8 11:52:21 2001
From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Doug Miles)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:22 2004
Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001
References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10103071511050.22940-100000@linux732> <002401c0a782$eb697d00$b9b6c240@winwin>
Message-ID: <3AA7C6D5.EC5D504@bpxinternet.com>

Eden Li wrote:
> 
> They're basically having a ``coming-to-terms'' meeting where they figure out
> what they want to do and where they want to meet.  All that fun stuff.
> Seems pretty important, and I want a peice of the action :P

I check out the web site, and didn't find a meeting schedule.  Would you
mind letting me know what their schedule is so that I can work around
it?  Thanks.

-- 
- Doug

Encrypted with ROT-26 - all attempts to decrypt are illegal under the
DMCA!

From A16499 at motorola.com  Thu Mar  8 12:00:22 2001
From: A16499 at motorola.com (Li Guoya-A16499)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:22 2004
Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001
Message-ID: <F142A45401DAD31191F0009027E326ED84BEA5@il06exm20.corp.mot.com>

I'll be there on time hopefully.
guoya

-----Original Message-----
From: doug.miles@bpxinternet.com [mailto:doug.miles@bpxinternet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Phoenix.pm
Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001


Please RSVP...

We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, March 8th at 7:00PM. 
It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue,
which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell.  The parking
lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the
receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting.  Park in the lot
that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell.
Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space.  Proceed to the main lobby,
which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot.

I will be presenting Perl 101 again for those who have missed it.  Next
meeting will be Perl 201.

-- 
- Doug

Don't anthropomorphize computers. They hate that.

From Bryan.Lane at VITALPS.COM  Thu Mar  8 12:05:02 2001
From: Bryan.Lane at VITALPS.COM (Bryan Lane)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:22 2004
Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001
Message-ID: <219B26AF200FD411A11200805FE6EF25F212F9@tef00021.vitalps.com>

I thought everyone on the list would enjoy this little perl snippet.  It is
the DCSS program that decrypts DVD's only it's in perl.  ZDNET had it posted
today.  Enjoy!

#!/usr/bin/perl -w
# 531-byte qrpff-fast, Keith Winstein and Marc Horowitz
<sipb-iap-dvd@mit.edu>
# MPEG 2 PS VOB file on stdin -> descrambled output on stdout
# arguments: title key bytes in least to most-significant order
$_='while(read+STDIN,$_,2048){$a=29;$b=73;$c=142;$t=255;@t=map{$_%16or$t^=$c
^=(
$m=(11,10,116,100,11,122,20,100)[$_/16%8])&110;$t^=(72,@z=(64,72,$a^=12*($_%
16
-2?0:$m&17)),$b^=$_%64?12:0,@z)[$_%8]}(16..271);if((@a=unx"C*",$_)[20]&48){$
h
=5;$_=unxb24,join"",@b=map{xB8,unxb8,chr($_^$a[--$h+84])}@ARGV;s/...$/1$&/;$
d=unxV,xb25,$_;$e=256|(ord$b[4])<<9|ord$b[3];$d=$d>>8^($f=$t&($d>>12^$d>>4^
$d^$d/8))<<17,$e=$e>>8^($t&($g=($q=$e>>14&7^$e)^$q*8^$q<<6))<<9,$_=$t[$_]^
(($h>>=8)+=$f+(~$g&$t))for@a[128..$#a]}print+x"C*",@a}';s/x/pack+/g;eval


Bryan

-----Original Message-----
From: doug.miles@bpxinternet.com [mailto:doug.miles@bpxinternet.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 10:25 AM
To: phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org
Subject: Re: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001


Tran Forsythe wrote:
> 
> Barring any explosions, I'll be attending; I always seem to pick up at
> _least_ one new trick at these things ;)
> 

Not to mention keeping me on my toes... :)

-- 
- Doug

Encrypted with ROT-26 - all attempts to decrypt are illegal under the
DMCA!

From Rob.Svirskas at motorola.com  Thu Mar  8 14:03:38 2001
From: Rob.Svirskas at motorola.com (Svirskas Rob-ERS007)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:22 2004
Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001
Message-ID: <F142A45401DAD31191F0009027E326ED01F31E59@il06exm20.corp.mot.com>

I should be able to make it. Is part of the Perl 101 class tonight to go through the DeCSS code Bryan sent out? ;-)
                               Rob

NOTE: If you are from the Motion Picture Association, the last sentence was a joke - I was kidding - really - please don't send your lawyers after me...

-----Original Message-----
From: doug.miles@bpxinternet.com [mailto:doug.miles@bpxinternet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Phoenix.pm
Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001


Please RSVP...

We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, March 8th at 7:00PM. 
It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue,
which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell.  The parking
lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the
receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting.  Park in the lot
that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell.
Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space.  Proceed to the main lobby,
which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot.

I will be presenting Perl 101 again for those who have missed it.  Next
meeting will be Perl 201.

-- 
- Doug

Don't anthropomorphize computers. They hate that.

From Bryan.Lane at VITALPS.COM  Thu Mar  8 14:10:57 2001
From: Bryan.Lane at VITALPS.COM (Bryan Lane)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:22 2004
Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001
Message-ID: <219B26AF200FD411A11200805FE6EF25F212FD@tef00021.vitalps.com>

No the DeCSS code that I sent isn't part of it:)  I thought everyone would
get a kick out of it though.

Bryan

-----Original Message-----
From: Svirskas Rob-ERS007 [mailto:Rob.Svirskas@motorola.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 1:04 PM
To: 'phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org'
Subject: RE: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001


I should be able to make it. Is part of the Perl 101 class tonight to go
through the DeCSS code Bryan sent out? ;-)
                               Rob

NOTE: If you are from the Motion Picture Association, the last sentence was
a joke - I was kidding - really - please don't send your lawyers after me...

-----Original Message-----
From: doug.miles@bpxinternet.com [mailto:doug.miles@bpxinternet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Phoenix.pm
Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001


Please RSVP...

We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, March 8th at 7:00PM. 
It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue,
which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell.  The parking
lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the
receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting.  Park in the lot
that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell.
Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space.  Proceed to the main lobby,
which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot.

I will be presenting Perl 101 again for those who have missed it.  Next
meeting will be Perl 201.

-- 
- Doug

Don't anthropomorphize computers. They hate that.

From Rob.Svirskas at motorola.com  Thu Mar  8 14:36:18 2001
From: Rob.Svirskas at motorola.com (Svirskas Rob-ERS007)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:22 2004
Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001
Message-ID: <F142A45401DAD31191F0009027E326ED01F31E5A@il06exm20.corp.mot.com>

It's a nice piece of obfuscated Perl. The s/x/pack+/g stuck out like a sore thumb, but the unary plus trick is very cool.
                            - Rob


-----Original Message-----
From: Bryan Lane [mailto:Bryan.Lane@VITALPS.COM]
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 1:11 PM
To: 'phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org'
Subject: RE: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001


No the DeCSS code that I sent isn't part of it:)  I thought everyone would
get a kick out of it though.

Bryan

-----Original Message-----
From: Svirskas Rob-ERS007 [mailto:Rob.Svirskas@motorola.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 1:04 PM
To: 'phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org'
Subject: RE: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001


I should be able to make it. Is part of the Perl 101 class tonight to go
through the DeCSS code Bryan sent out? ;-)
                               Rob

NOTE: If you are from the Motion Picture Association, the last sentence was
a joke - I was kidding - really - please don't send your lawyers after me...

-----Original Message-----
From: doug.miles@bpxinternet.com [mailto:doug.miles@bpxinternet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Phoenix.pm
Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001


Please RSVP...

We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, March 8th at 7:00PM. 
It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue,
which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell.  The parking
lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the
receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting.  Park in the lot
that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell.
Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space.  Proceed to the main lobby,
which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot.

I will be presenting Perl 101 again for those who have missed it.  Next
meeting will be Perl 201.

-- 
- Doug

Don't anthropomorphize computers. They hate that.

From chaosppp at corp.earthlink.net  Thu Mar  8 15:35:41 2001
From: chaosppp at corp.earthlink.net (Phil Hartfield)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:22 2004
Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001
In-Reply-To: <F142A45401DAD31191F0009027E326ED01F31E5A@il06exm20.corp.mot.com> from "Svirskas Rob-ERS007" at Mar 08, 2001 02:36:18 PM
Message-ID: <200103082135.OAA23352@asylum.phx3.mindspring.net>

Yeah, must have used up the perl mojo on this bit hmm:

$d=$d>>8^($f=$t&($d>>12^$d>>4^$d^$d/8))<<17,$e=$e>>8^($t&($g=($q=$e>>14&7^$e)^$q
*8^$q<<6))<<9,$_=$t[$_]^(($h>>=8)+=$f+(~$g&$t))
for@a[128..$#a]

Interesting bit.

Phil Hartfield

Svirskas Rob-ERS007 wrote:
> 
> It's a nice piece of obfuscated Perl. The s/x/pack+/g stuck out like a sore thumb, but the unary plus trick is very cool.
>                             - Rob
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bryan Lane [mailto:Bryan.Lane@VITALPS.COM]
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 1:11 PM
> To: 'phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org'
> Subject: RE: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001
> 
> 
> No the DeCSS code that I sent isn't part of it:)  I thought everyone would
> get a kick out of it though.
> 
> Bryan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Svirskas Rob-ERS007 [mailto:Rob.Svirskas@motorola.com]
> Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 1:04 PM
> To: 'phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org'
> Subject: RE: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001
> 
> 
> I should be able to make it. Is part of the Perl 101 class tonight to go
> through the DeCSS code Bryan sent out? ;-)
>                                Rob
> 
> NOTE: If you are from the Motion Picture Association, the last sentence was
> a joke - I was kidding - really - please don't send your lawyers after me...
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: doug.miles@bpxinternet.com [mailto:doug.miles@bpxinternet.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 10:39 AM
> To: Phoenix.pm
> Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001
> 
> 
> Please RSVP...
> 
> We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, March 8th at 7:00PM. 
> It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue,
> which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell.  The parking
> lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the
> receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting.  Park in the lot
> that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell.
> Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space.  Proceed to the main lobby,
> which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot.
> 
> I will be presenting Perl 101 again for those who have missed it.  Next
> meeting will be Perl 201.
> 
> -- 
> - Doug
> 
> Don't anthropomorphize computers. They hate that.
> 


From A16499 at motorola.com  Fri Mar  9 10:45:09 2001
From: A16499 at motorola.com (Li Guoya-A16499)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:22 2004
Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001
Message-ID: <F142A45401DAD31191F0009027E326ED84BEA7@il06exm20.corp.mot.com>

Hello, Doug:
	It was so nice to join the Perl people in Phoenix. The class was right for me and I've learned a lot. Thank you very much.
guoya

-----Original Message-----
From: doug.miles@bpxinternet.com [mailto:doug.miles@bpxinternet.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 10:39 AM
To: Phoenix.pm
Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001


Please RSVP...

We'll be having a Phoenix.pm meeting Thursday, March 8th at 7:00PM. 
It will be held at Bowne, which is located at 1500 N. Central Avenue,
which is on the Southwest corner of Central and McDowell.  The parking
lot is gated, so just press the button on the intercom, and tell the
receptionist that you are there for the Perl meeting.  Park in the lot
that is straight ahead from the entrance on the South side of McDowell.
Park in any uncovered, non-reserved space.  Proceed to the main lobby,
which is on the Northeast side of the parking lot.

I will be presenting Perl 101 again for those who have missed it.  Next
meeting will be Perl 201.

-- 
- Doug

Don't anthropomorphize computers. They hate that.

From kim.a.gentes at intel.com  Fri Mar  9 10:53:44 2001
From: kim.a.gentes at intel.com (Gentes, Kim A)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:22 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: Perl News-
Message-ID: <459967261D9AD211AC4100A0C96B541005005551@fmsmsx55.fm.intel.com>

those familiar with BBSpot know the level of journalism they have 
shown in the technical community...

 http://www.bbspot.com/News/2001/03/perl_test.html

p.s. that would be humur...


Kim Gentes
Intel IAG/DPG/GUI
Install Technology Team
Phone (480)554-5590
<mailto:Kim.a.gentes@intel.com>

The system you have is perfectly designed for the results you are now
getting.



From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com  Fri Mar  9 14:31:17 2001
From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Doug Miles)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:22 2004
Subject: Reminder: Phoenix.pm: Meeting 03/08/2001
References: <F142A45401DAD31191F0009027E326ED84BEA7@il06exm20.corp.mot.com>
Message-ID: <3AA93D95.8A673A8C@bpxinternet.com>

Li Guoya-A16499 wrote:
> 
> Hello, Doug:
>         It was so nice to join the Perl people in Phoenix. The class was right for me and I've learned a lot. Thank you very much.
> guoya

Thanks thanks for the feedback Guoya!  I'm glad it was worth you while.

-- 
- Doug

Encrypted with ROT-26 - all attempts to decrypt are illegal under the
DMCA!

From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com  Fri Mar  9 16:04:39 2001
From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Doug Miles)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:22 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: Anyone doing Perl/XML?
Message-ID: <3AA95377.95047B48@bpxinternet.com>

Anyone out there doing Perl/XML stuff?  I need to be able to convert
different data sources to XML.  I think that XML::Grove looks like my
best bet, but the documentation and examples are geared more towards
parsing rather than XML generation.  Any comments or suggestions?

-- 
- Doug

Encrypted with ROT-26 - all attempts to decrypt are illegal under the
DMCA!

From Rob.Svirskas at motorola.com  Fri Mar  9 16:14:04 2001
From: Rob.Svirskas at motorola.com (Svirskas Rob-ERS007)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:22 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: Anyone doing Perl/XML?
Message-ID: <F142A45401DAD31191F0009027E326ED01F31E62@il06exm20.corp.mot.com>

Doug;
     I'm pretty new to the XML stuff, so probably can't help much there (I've played with XML::Writer to generate XML once or twice, haven't tried Grove).

In a totally unrelated subject, last night in the midst of your lesson on Camel anatomy, we had briefly discussed slurping a file (I think while we were on the subject of $/). A while back, I started using sysread, as in:
          sysread HANDLE,my $slurp,-s HANDLE;

I suppose there could be some platform issues 'cause of the "-s", but it works fine on Solaris :-). The sysread runs faster and sucks down less CPU. Here's a benchmark for 1000 slurps of a 12 MB file:

Benchmark: timing 1000 iterations of do loop, sysread...
        do: 201 wallclock secs (108.34 usr + 90.51 sys = 198.85 CPU)
   sysread: 63 wallclock secs ( 0.04 usr + 63.39 sys = 63.43 CPU)

Here's the "do" I compared it against:
          my $slurp = do { local $/; <HANDLE>; };


                                                - Rob

-----Original Message-----
From: doug.miles@bpxinternet.com [mailto:doug.miles@bpxinternet.com]
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 3:05 PM
To: Phoenix.pm
Subject: Phoenix.pm: Anyone doing Perl/XML?


Anyone out there doing Perl/XML stuff?  I need to be able to convert
different data sources to XML.  I think that XML::Grove looks like my
best bet, but the documentation and examples are geared more towards
parsing rather than XML generation.  Any comments or suggestions?

-- 
- Doug

Encrypted with ROT-26 - all attempts to decrypt are illegal under the
DMCA!

From phaedrus at contactdesigns.com  Fri Mar  9 15:04:05 2001
From: phaedrus at contactdesigns.com (Scott Walters)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:22 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: Anyone doing Perl/XML?
In-Reply-To: <F142A45401DAD31191F0009027E326ED01F31E62@il06exm20.corp.mot.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10103091550260.960-100000@linux732>


Doug,

Planning on writting a minimal XML writter and perhaps a reader that somehow (don't ask me how)
maps the data to a good relational database (ie, first 4 normals).

I haven't put too much thought into it yet (except figuring out how im going to get out of
having to do it which has so far been unsuccessful), except that I can assume the tables 
will follow the tree structure of the data like this, for example: the first 3 layers of
depth will go to one table; the next 5 (lets say) layers of depth will go to another table,
that the first table relates to; the next 2 layers of depth (for example) will go to a third
table, that relates to the second table. As given attributes at a given depth change,
relational keys change. 

This is an extention of a technique of report generation I use elsewhere, where as different
rows in the output of a query change, data is aggreated (ie, new column or row in a chart), 
new headers are inserted, etc, etc. This has proved a great way to abstract the details of
reporting on data from arbitrary queries.

What I'm interested to know is:

0) has this been done already, or tried and prove impractical?
a) is anyone else interested in this?
I) does anyone know any good sauces that go with blueberry pasta? i seem to have blueberry pasta...
x) does the event driven model and datastructure driven models of most XML parsers seem to be
   the wrong approach to anyone else?

>           sysread HANDLE,my $slurp,-s HANDLE;
Rob, have you benchmarked my $slurp = `cat $fn` ? i wanna know =) And how do DSPs differ
from traditional processors? What makes a DSP a DSP? I'm curious =)

Thanks again, Doug, for hosting another worship session for us miscreants =)

cheers!

-scott



On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Svirskas Rob-ERS007 wrote:

> Doug;
>      I'm pretty new to the XML stuff, so probably can't help much there (I've played with XML::Writer to generate XML once or twice, haven't tried Grove).
> 
> In a totally unrelated subject, last night in the midst of your lesson on Camel anatomy, we had briefly discussed slurping a file (I think while we were on the subject of $/). A while back, I started using sysread, as in:
>           sysread HANDLE,my $slurp,-s HANDLE;
> 
> I suppose there could be some platform issues 'cause of the "-s", but it works fine on Solaris :-). The sysread runs faster and sucks down less CPU. Here's a benchmark for 1000 slurps of a 12 MB file:
> 
> Benchmark: timing 1000 iterations of do loop, sysread...
>         do: 201 wallclock secs (108.34 usr + 90.51 sys = 198.85 CPU)
>    sysread: 63 wallclock secs ( 0.04 usr + 63.39 sys = 63.43 CPU)
> 
> Here's the "do" I compared it against:
>           my $slurp = do { local $/; <HANDLE>; };
> 
> 
>                                                 - Rob
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: doug.miles@bpxinternet.com [mailto:doug.miles@bpxinternet.com]
> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 3:05 PM
> To: Phoenix.pm
> Subject: Phoenix.pm: Anyone doing Perl/XML?
> 
> 
> Anyone out there doing Perl/XML stuff?  I need to be able to convert
> different data sources to XML.  I think that XML::Grove looks like my
> best bet, but the documentation and examples are geared more towards
> parsing rather than XML generation.  Any comments or suggestions?
> 
> -- 
> - Doug
> 
> Encrypted with ROT-26 - all attempts to decrypt are illegal under the
> DMCA!
> 


From Rob.Svirskas at motorola.com  Fri Mar  9 17:50:39 2001
From: Rob.Svirskas at motorola.com (Svirskas Rob-ERS007)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:22 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: Anyone doing Perl/XML?
Message-ID: <F142A45401DAD31191F0009027E326ED01F31E64@il06exm20.corp.mot.com>

Scott;

> >           sysread HANDLE,my $slurp,-s HANDLE;
> Rob, have you benchmarked my $slurp = `cat $fn` ? i wanna know =)

Three words: "sick and wrong". If I were really twisted, I would try benchmarking that. Not that I would actually do that, but if I did, I would get:

Benchmark: timing 1000 iterations of evil...
   evil: 494 wallclock secs (334.33 usr 135.32 sys + 2.88 cusr 141.20 csys = 0.00 CPU)

Hey, does the "0.00 CPU" mean that it didn't use the CPU at all? :-\

> And how do DSPs differ from traditional processors? What makes a DSP a DSP? I'm curious =)

I guess a DSP is a DSP 'cause it's not an ASP (my old computer engineering professor is likely screaming someplace right now).

                                  - Rob


-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Walters [mailto:phaedrus@contactdesigns.com]
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 2:04 PM
To: 'phoenix-pm-list@happyfunball.pm.org'
Subject: RE: Phoenix.pm: Anyone doing Perl/XML?



Doug,

Planning on writting a minimal XML writter and perhaps a reader that somehow (don't ask me how)
maps the data to a good relational database (ie, first 4 normals).

I haven't put too much thought into it yet (except figuring out how im going to get out of
having to do it which has so far been unsuccessful), except that I can assume the tables 
will follow the tree structure of the data like this, for example: the first 3 layers of
depth will go to one table; the next 5 (lets say) layers of depth will go to another table,
that the first table relates to; the next 2 layers of depth (for example) will go to a third
table, that relates to the second table. As given attributes at a given depth change,
relational keys change. 

This is an extention of a technique of report generation I use elsewhere, where as different
rows in the output of a query change, data is aggreated (ie, new column or row in a chart), 
new headers are inserted, etc, etc. This has proved a great way to abstract the details of
reporting on data from arbitrary queries.

What I'm interested to know is:

0) has this been done already, or tried and prove impractical?
a) is anyone else interested in this?
I) does anyone know any good sauces that go with blueberry pasta? i seem to have blueberry pasta...
x) does the event driven model and datastructure driven models of most XML parsers seem to be
   the wrong approach to anyone else?

>           sysread HANDLE,my $slurp,-s HANDLE;
Rob, have you benchmarked my $slurp = `cat $fn` ? i wanna know =) And how do DSPs differ
from traditional processors? What makes a DSP a DSP? I'm curious =)

Thanks again, Doug, for hosting another worship session for us miscreants =)

cheers!

-scott

From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com  Tue Mar 13 10:16:20 2001
From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Doug Miles)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:22 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: Anyone doing Perl/XML?
References: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10103091550260.960-100000@linux732>
Message-ID: <3AAE47D4.6956323@bpxinternet.com>

I don't know if this is the type of thing you're looking for, but you
might have a look at:

http://search.cpan.org/doc/MSERGEANT/DBIx-XML_RDB-0.05/XML_RDB.pm

Scott Walters wrote:
> 
> Doug,
> 
> Planning on writting a minimal XML writter and perhaps a reader that somehow (don't ask me how)
> maps the data to a good relational database (ie, first 4 normals).
> 
> I haven't put too much thought into it yet (except figuring out how im going to get out of
> having to do it which has so far been unsuccessful), except that I can assume the tables
> will follow the tree structure of the data like this, for example: the first 3 layers of
> depth will go to one table; the next 5 (lets say) layers of depth will go to another table,
> that the first table relates to; the next 2 layers of depth (for example) will go to a third
> table, that relates to the second table. As given attributes at a given depth change,
> relational keys change.
> 
> This is an extention of a technique of report generation I use elsewhere, where as different
> rows in the output of a query change, data is aggreated (ie, new column or row in a chart),
> new headers are inserted, etc, etc. This has proved a great way to abstract the details of
> reporting on data from arbitrary queries.
> 
> What I'm interested to know is:
> 
> 0) has this been done already, or tried and prove impractical?
> a) is anyone else interested in this?
> I) does anyone know any good sauces that go with blueberry pasta? i seem to have blueberry pasta...
> x) does the event driven model and datastructure driven models of most XML parsers seem to be
>    the wrong approach to anyone else?
> 
> >           sysread HANDLE,my $slurp,-s HANDLE;
> Rob, have you benchmarked my $slurp = `cat $fn` ? i wanna know =) And how do DSPs differ
> from traditional processors? What makes a DSP a DSP? I'm curious =)
> 
> Thanks again, Doug, for hosting another worship session for us miscreants =)
> 
> cheers!
> 
> -scott
> 
> On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Svirskas Rob-ERS007 wrote:
> 
> > Doug;
> >      I'm pretty new to the XML stuff, so probably can't help much there (I've played with XML::Writer to generate XML once or twice, haven't tried Grove).
> >
> > In a totally unrelated subject, last night in the midst of your lesson on Camel anatomy, we had briefly discussed slurping a file (I think while we were on the subject of $/). A while back, I started using sysread, as in:
> >           sysread HANDLE,my $slurp,-s HANDLE;
> >
> > I suppose there could be some platform issues 'cause of the "-s", but it works fine on Solaris :-). The sysread runs faster and sucks down less CPU. Here's a benchmark for 1000 slurps of a 12 MB file:
> >
> > Benchmark: timing 1000 iterations of do loop, sysread...
> >         do: 201 wallclock secs (108.34 usr + 90.51 sys = 198.85 CPU)
> >    sysread: 63 wallclock secs ( 0.04 usr + 63.39 sys = 63.43 CPU)
> >
> > Here's the "do" I compared it against:
> >           my $slurp = do { local $/; <HANDLE>; };
> >
> >
> >                                                 - Rob
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: doug.miles@bpxinternet.com [mailto:doug.miles@bpxinternet.com]
> > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 3:05 PM
> > To: Phoenix.pm
> > Subject: Phoenix.pm: Anyone doing Perl/XML?
> >
> >
> > Anyone out there doing Perl/XML stuff?  I need to be able to convert
> > different data sources to XML.  I think that XML::Grove looks like my
> > best bet, but the documentation and examples are geared more towards
> > parsing rather than XML generation.  Any comments or suggestions?
> >
> > --
> > - Doug
> >
> > Encrypted with ROT-26 - all attempts to decrypt are illegal under the
> > DMCA!
> >

-- 
- Doug

Encrypted with ROT-26 - all attempts to decrypt are illegal under the
DMCA!

From phaedrus at contactdesigns.com  Tue Mar 13 13:21:09 2001
From: phaedrus at contactdesigns.com (Scott Walters)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:22 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: Anyone doing Perl/XML?
In-Reply-To: <3AAE47D4.6956323@bpxinternet.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10103131416280.960-100000@linux732>


Doug,

Thanks. Nope, but similiar. I'm interested in translating between
a fully normalized relational database (ie, tables) and a
heirarchy (ie, XML). I have a proposed method, but I'm not sure its
the best way or will work at all...

On an unrelated note, hows the market for Perl/SQL/C/mod_perl/Apache
programmers? Is anyone looking for them/one?
[This question is not rhoetorical].

-scott


On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Doug Miles wrote:

> I don't know if this is the type of thing you're looking for, but you
> might have a look at:
> 
> http://search.cpan.org/doc/MSERGEANT/DBIx-XML_RDB-0.05/XML_RDB.pm
> 
> Scott Walters wrote:
> > 
> > Doug,
> > 
> > Planning on writting a minimal XML writter and perhaps a reader that somehow (don't ask me how)
> > maps the data to a good relational database (ie, first 4 normals).
> > 
> > I haven't put too much thought into it yet (except figuring out how im going to get out of
> > having to do it which has so far been unsuccessful), except that I can assume the tables
> > will follow the tree structure of the data like this, for example: the first 3 layers of
> > depth will go to one table; the next 5 (lets say) layers of depth will go to another table,
> > that the first table relates to; the next 2 layers of depth (for example) will go to a third
> > table, that relates to the second table. As given attributes at a given depth change,
> > relational keys change.
> > 
> > This is an extention of a technique of report generation I use elsewhere, where as different
> > rows in the output of a query change, data is aggreated (ie, new column or row in a chart),
> > new headers are inserted, etc, etc. This has proved a great way to abstract the details of
> > reporting on data from arbitrary queries.
> > 
> > What I'm interested to know is:
> > 
> > 0) has this been done already, or tried and prove impractical?
> > a) is anyone else interested in this?
> > I) does anyone know any good sauces that go with blueberry pasta? i seem to have blueberry pasta...
> > x) does the event driven model and datastructure driven models of most XML parsers seem to be
> >    the wrong approach to anyone else?
> > 
> > >           sysread HANDLE,my $slurp,-s HANDLE;
> > Rob, have you benchmarked my $slurp = `cat $fn` ? i wanna know =) And how do DSPs differ
> > from traditional processors? What makes a DSP a DSP? I'm curious =)
> > 
> > Thanks again, Doug, for hosting another worship session for us miscreants =)
> > 
> > cheers!
> > 
> > -scott
> > 
> > On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Svirskas Rob-ERS007 wrote:
> > 
> > > Doug;
> > >      I'm pretty new to the XML stuff, so probably can't help much there (I've played with XML::Writer to generate XML once or twice, haven't tried Grove).
> > >
> > > In a totally unrelated subject, last night in the midst of your lesson on Camel anatomy, we had briefly discussed slurping a file (I think while we were on the subject of $/). A while back, I started using sysread, as in:
> > >           sysread HANDLE,my $slurp,-s HANDLE;
> > >
> > > I suppose there could be some platform issues 'cause of the "-s", but it works fine on Solaris :-). The sysread runs faster and sucks down less CPU. Here's a benchmark for 1000 slurps of a 12 MB file:
> > >
> > > Benchmark: timing 1000 iterations of do loop, sysread...
> > >         do: 201 wallclock secs (108.34 usr + 90.51 sys = 198.85 CPU)
> > >    sysread: 63 wallclock secs ( 0.04 usr + 63.39 sys = 63.43 CPU)
> > >
> > > Here's the "do" I compared it against:
> > >           my $slurp = do { local $/; <HANDLE>; };
> > >
> > >
> > >                                                 - Rob
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: doug.miles@bpxinternet.com [mailto:doug.miles@bpxinternet.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 3:05 PM
> > > To: Phoenix.pm
> > > Subject: Phoenix.pm: Anyone doing Perl/XML?
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyone out there doing Perl/XML stuff?  I need to be able to convert
> > > different data sources to XML.  I think that XML::Grove looks like my
> > > best bet, but the documentation and examples are geared more towards
> > > parsing rather than XML generation.  Any comments or suggestions?
> > >
> > > --
> > > - Doug
> > >
> > > Encrypted with ROT-26 - all attempts to decrypt are illegal under the
> > > DMCA!
> > >
> 
> -- 
> - Doug
> 
> Encrypted with ROT-26 - all attempts to decrypt are illegal under the
> DMCA!
> 


From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com  Mon Mar 19 16:47:59 2001
From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Doug Miles)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:22 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: No meeting until next month
Message-ID: <3AB68C9F.173FBA9B@bpxinternet.com>

Sorry to have to do this.  I was planning on having a meeting tomorrow,
but decided to cancel it. (I haven't even had time to send out an
announcement :(  )  I've got vacation coming up, and have too much to do
before then.  I'll send an announcement next month.  

-- 
- Doug

Encrypted with ROT-26 - all attempts to decrypt are illegal under the
DMCA!

From Bryan.Lane at VITALPS.COM  Mon Mar 19 17:37:55 2001
From: Bryan.Lane at VITALPS.COM (Bryan Lane)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:22 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: No meeting until next month
Message-ID: <219B26AF200FD411A11200805FE6EF25F21310@tef00021.vitalps.com>

Have a great time on your vacation!

-----Original Message-----
From: doug.miles@bpxinternet.com [mailto:doug.miles@bpxinternet.com]
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 3:48 PM
To: Phoenix.pm
Subject: Phoenix.pm: No meeting until next month


Sorry to have to do this.  I was planning on having a meeting tomorrow,
but decided to cancel it. (I haven't even had time to send out an
announcement :(  )  I've got vacation coming up, and have too much to do
before then.  I'll send an announcement next month.  

-- 
- Doug

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From forsythe at primenet.com  Tue Mar 20 08:40:38 2001
From: forsythe at primenet.com (Tran Forsythe)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:22 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: No meeting until next month
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Message-ID: <002d01c0b14b$bc3000e0$0301a8c0@tran>


No worries, man; rest & recuperate, we'll be fine ;)

-Kurt

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"Push to test."
<click>
"Release to detonate."
-Brad Morrison



From doug.miles at bpxinternet.com  Tue Mar 20 14:43:02 2001
From: doug.miles at bpxinternet.com (Doug Miles)
Date: Thu Aug  5 00:16:22 2004
Subject: Phoenix.pm: No meeting until next month
References: <3AB68C9F.173FBA9B@bpxinternet.com> <002d01c0b14b$bc3000e0$0301a8c0@tran>
Message-ID: <3AB7C0D6.1CBFA25D@bpxinternet.com>

Tran Forsythe wrote:
> 
> No worries, man; rest & recuperate, we'll be fine ;)
> 
> -Kurt
> 
> ------
> 
> "Push to test."
> <click>
> "Release to detonate."
> -Brad Morrison

Cool.  Thanks.  I'll get started again next month...

-- 
- Doug

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