Next meeting topic

Phaedrus phaedrus at
Thu Sep 23 11:20:31 CDT 1999

Speaking for Heather, who isn't on this list yet, a 101 theme for a
meeting would be most welcome.


On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, Douglas E. Miles wrote:

> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 09:18:45 -0700
> From: Douglas E. Miles <doug.miles at>
> Reply-To: phoenix-pm-list at
> To: phoenix-pm-list at
> Subject: Re: Next meeting topic
> Beaves at wrote:
> > 
> > I think that instead of having a separate meeting for beginners and advanced,
> > that we set aside about 10 to 15 minutes for a Perl Basics
> > forum/discussion/presentation.  I know that even if the topic is a 'basic'
> > one, that we could probably all contribute a lesson learned, and that we all
> > coud probably learn something new and unusual about the topic.  With the Perl
> > basic topic known, then we could all gather our thoughts on the issue and
> > comeup with our own lessons learned, or come armed with questions that have
> > been nagging us.  The topic should be very specific, as it'll end up
> > branching out anyway...
> > 
> > I would like to avoid having a beginners group, because I feel that we all
> > probably have a few things to learn at many levels.  I would enjoy being
> > involved in a 'entry level' discussion, but I would be hesitant to attend a
> > meeting if the entire meeting were devoted to that level...
> >
> > Here are some topics that may work:
> > 
> > Hashes, (No you can't smoke 'em, but they are smokin')
> > @INC, %INC, and @ISA (Doesn't eveybody want to be included...?)
> > Filehandles and  (No, you can't pick up chicks with em)
> > AUTOLOAD, $AUTOLOAD, and autoloading.  (Not about deficating in a Chevy...)
> > Symbol tables.
> > References and dereferencing
> > 
> > Just to name a few...
> > 
> > So, to summarize, I think that we should devote a portion of each meeting to
> > Perl basics.  If your strong in that area, then come prepared to talk and
> > teach.  If you're weak in that area, then come prepare to listen, take notes
> > and ask questions.
> These point are well taken.  I think that the consensus is that we don't
> split the meetings.  I agree.  That being said, I'd still like to have a
> Perl 101 meeting next time, to sort of jump start some of the newer
> people.  Can I see a show of emails for those who would be interested in
> this topic next time?  If I find that the interest isn't there, I'll
> change my mind.  Thanks for the feedback!
> -- 
> People understand instinctively that the best way for computer
> programs to communicate with each other is for each of the them
> to be strict in what they emit, and liberal in what they accept.
> The odd thing is that people themselves are not willing to be
> strict in how they speak, and liberal in how they listen.
> --Larry Wall, 2nd State of the Onion Address, August 1998

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