Next meeting topic

Warner, David David.Warner at
Wed Sep 22 12:30:32 CDT 1999

	I think this is a great idea!  Not only is it a real service to
the community, but it also helps to create mindshare...both java and
python are making headway in the college classrooms but not perl.  An
O'Reilly book has just come out that may help this process - "Mastering
Algorithms with Perl" (I'm expecting my copy today or tomorrow from
Amazon).  I would recommend that we start amassing materials on the web
site and that we build towards this goal.  Perhaps something similar to
the Openbook project that has started for Linux


-----Original Message-----
From: Pablo Velasquez [mailto:pablo at]
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 1999 9:44 AM
To: phoenix-pm-list at
Subject: Re: Next meeting topic

First, it was great meeting everyone last evening.

To respond to your question: I'm for keeping the group together.
or "Advanced", there's more than one way to do it :)  

Proposal: I had a general idea that I wanted to bring up. I was thinking
about a workshop for a local university or college. Meaning, as a group
create a Intro. to Perl type curriculum that we present at
is certainly a longer term project, perhaps a topic of discussion for a
meeting? (I was thinking of it as providing a service to the community)

My motivation for this type of project is that you create a system for
institutionalizing Perl at the academic level. You get more members, you
encourage Perl being taught, therefore, increasing the level of
etc. Once you create relationships with different computer science
departments you begin to create a system of Perl being taught...

I looked at ASU's programming curriculum and I didn't find any
materials, which seemed odd to me...(but maybe I was looking in the

I remember looking at NYU's curriculum and they didn't have much either
(except for the adult class) I've been considering this for a while

Anyway, just an idea.


At 07:34 AM 9/22/99 -0700, you wrote:
>I think that we now have a critical mass of people that are relatively
>new to Perl in the group, so I'll be giving a Perl 101 presentation for
>the next meeting.  If any of you fall into this category, or you are an
>expert, and you want to critique my presentation, :) try to make it to
>this meeting.  I want to be sure that everyone is getting useful
>information out of these meetings.
>Also, I'm kicking around the idea of having one "beginner's" meeting
>one "advanced" meeting each month.  Feedback?  Good idea?  Bad idea?
>People understand instinctively that the best way for computer
>programs to communicate with each other is for each of the them
>to be strict in what they emit, and liberal in what they accept.
>The odd thing is that people themselves are not willing to be
>strict in how they speak, and liberal in how they listen.
>--Larry Wall, 2nd State of the Onion Address, August 1998

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