Job Opportunity

Shay Harding mekla at
Fri Nov 12 17:10:13 CST 1999

> --- Shay Harding <mekla at> wrote:
> > [SNIP] 
> > Sr. Java developer
> > ---------------------------------------------
> > 4+ years exp. developing commercial Java
> > applications/applets
> > JDBC experience (with Mysql preferrably)
> > UNIX exp (NT helpful)
> > [SNIP]

Sorry, that didn't come out quite like it was meant. A better version:

Sr. Java developer
4+ years combined exp. developing commercial applications (in languages like C,
C++, Java, Perl)
2+ years Java experience req. (of the 4 yrs. mentioned above)
JDBC experience (with Mysql preferrably)
UNIX exp (NT helpful)

> I think Gosling is already employed.  4+ years in
> Java? Developing commerical applications?  I'd say
> 175-200K per annum at the bottom range, guys.

Maybe as a freelancer on a contract basis you will get that sort of money, but
as a salaried employee it's almost unheard of unless you are God. In this
regard you better be able to take the source code from RedHat Linux and port it
to Java :) The top guy at Sun may be making that much. I guess if you take all
the benefits and liquidate them it would equal about that, but you specify that
is the bottom range indicating that people with more experience make more than
that which would be about 250k - 300k range.

This makes me kind of curious what the range of experience is on this list and
who actually works as a programmer and what the general salary range is being
paid in Phoenix metro area. We employ 9 programmers right now and I know the
range of salaries is anywhere from 25k - 85k gross per year. Not bad for a
start-up company with 2.5 years behind them and no outside funding (from
venture capital or stock anyway). I'm sure the bigger companies like Motorola
pay more for qualified programmers.

I can say I work as a programmer, but my job is a little more involved since I
not only do programming, but also handle the majority of DBA tasks, UNIX
software setup/configuration (Apache, Mysql, SSH, SSL, etc), and project
manager. My experience covers a wide range such as:

3 yrs UNIX experience with half of that being in a production environment.

Almost 6 yrs Perl experience
    3 yrs freelance programming
    1 yr just learing stuff
    ~2 yrs non-freelance (company)

~2 yrs database experience (mostly Mysql, some Oracle)
1 yr C/C++ exp (all on my own)
Some Javascript/Java

Other fool around with stuff: Cobol, BASIC, VB5 (made some apps)
I've dabbled in several languages and am learning more of Java again.

>From searches on the web the salary seems to be from 35k - 90k (mostly). There
are some for over that, but not many and they want someone who knows everything.


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