From casey at GEEKNEST.COM Wed Mar 1 13:38:59 2006 From: casey at GEEKNEST.COM (Casey West) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2006 16:38:59 -0500 Subject: [pgh-pm] Late Day Reminder: Wiki Wednesday Tonight! Message-ID: <13BC6488-2C4E-4A4E-90F6-D7FB547972CF@GEEKNEST.COM> Hook up at D&B for some Wiki Wednesday action! We start at 7:00pm. -- Casey West From casey at geeknest.com Sat Mar 4 18:11:03 2006 From: casey at geeknest.com (Casey West) Date: Sat, 4 Mar 2006 18:11:03 -0800 Subject: [pgh-pm] Announcement? Message-ID: <40C85622-7FE2-4D58-86DF-ADA9FFAB0C84@geeknest.com> Is there an announcement in going out for the coming meeting? -- Casey West From robert at robertblackwell.com Mon Mar 6 13:54:16 2006 From: robert at robertblackwell.com (Robert Blackwell) Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2006 13:54:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: [pgh-pm] RT talk postponed Message-ID: <20060306215416.78966.qmail@web52203.mail.yahoo.com> Fellow Mongers, I was sick all weekend and continue to feel bad. I will not be able to give my RT talk this Wednesday. I will reschedule and expand it. If someone else can put something together to fill my spot that would be great. I doubt I will be at the meeting Wednesday at all. Robert From brig at bidlum.net Wed Mar 8 13:50:23 2006 From: brig at bidlum.net (Brian Gollum) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 16:50:23 -0500 Subject: [pgh-pm] meeting tonight? Message-ID: <440F519F.10007@bidlum.net> I know this query is a bit late and that the planned RT presentation has been postponed, but are we having a meeting tonight? ...b. From chris.winters at gmail.com Wed Mar 8 14:02:40 2006 From: chris.winters at gmail.com (Chris Winters) Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 17:02:40 -0500 Subject: [pgh-pm] meeting tonight? In-Reply-To: <440F519F.10007@bidlum.net> References: <440F519F.10007@bidlum.net> Message-ID: On 3/8/06, Brian Gollum wrote: > I know this query is a bit late and that the planned RT presentation has > been postponed, but are we having a meeting tonight? I think so. IIRC someone (Dan?) other than Robert was planning on a presentation. I'm planning to be there. Chris From tom at moertel.com Wed Mar 8 14:32:04 2006 From: tom at moertel.com (Tom Moertel) Date: Wed, 08 Mar 2006 17:32:04 -0500 Subject: [pgh-pm] RT talk postponed In-Reply-To: <20060306215416.78966.qmail@web52203.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060306215416.78966.qmail@web52203.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <440F5B64.7050806@moertel.com> Robert Blackwell wrote: > If someone else can put something together to fill my spot that would be great. I have a quick talk on embedding an HTML-template language into Perl. I'll plan on giving it. Cheers, Tom From chris.winters at gmail.com Sat Mar 11 12:22:08 2006 From: chris.winters at gmail.com (Chris Winters) Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 15:22:08 -0500 Subject: [pgh-pm] test Message-ID: testing Tom's hypothesis From tom at moertel.com Sat Mar 11 12:42:09 2006 From: tom at moertel.com (Tom Moertel) Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 15:42:09 -0500 Subject: [pgh-pm] test In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <44133621.60503@moertel.com> Chris Winters wrote: > testing Tom's hypothesis Test reply to Chris & cc: mailing list. Cheers, Tom From tom at moertel.com Sat Mar 11 12:45:06 2006 From: tom at moertel.com (Tom Moertel) Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 15:45:06 -0500 Subject: [pgh-pm] Some available hardware (mostly servers) Message-ID: <441336D2.6020508@moertel.com> [Resent because first attempts bounced.] Pittsburgh Perl Mongers, As I mentioned at Wednesday's meeting, one of my clients has some surplus hardware. They have kindly offered me the chance to find good homes for their machines. Let's put 'em to good use! Here's the deal: Most of these are server-type boxes. All are used, some heavily, but believed to be working. Nevertheless, this is a strictly as-is offer. Further, not all of these machines may be available. Here's the tentative list: QTY HARDWARE (1) Dell PowerEdge 4300, 512 MB, (2) Xeon ~550 MHz, PERC2 RAID ~80 GB (5) SAG ~550-MHz PIIs, 128 or 256 MB, (0 or 1) ~13 GB, 3Com 3C905 (2) 600-series Thinkpad laptops (1) Dell Inspiron 3800 laptop If you are interested in any of these machines, send an email with a subject of "March 2006 Hardware Request" to tom at moertel.com -- NOT THE MAILING LIST -- and list the machines you want, up to three total. For each machine you list, you may also designate a 2nd-choice machine, which I will use in the event your 1st choice is unavailable. After receiving your requests, I will make a tentative assignment of machines to people. If there are any conflicts, I will resolve each randomly using the following weighting scheme for each person P's probability of winning the conflict: weight(P) = 1 + 2 (if P is a semi-frequent Pgh PM attendee) + 2 (if P is a semi-frequent Pgh PM contributor) + 2 (if P makes non-trivial open-source contributions) Further, I will manually adjust the assignment graph if I think doing so will yield a fairer or more sensible distribution of machines. Next, I will consult with my client, confirm the availability of the selected machines, and announce the final hardware-to-person assignments. Finally, we can arrange for pick-up of the hardware. If you are interested, let me know in the next 72 hours. Cheers, Tom From robert at robertblackwell.com Wed Mar 22 07:16:23 2006 From: robert at robertblackwell.com (Robert Blackwell) Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 07:16:23 -0800 (PST) Subject: [pgh-pm] Pittsburgh Perl Mongers | Meeting | April 12, 2005 Message-ID: <20060322151623.74628.qmail@web52203.mail.yahoo.com> Wednesday April 12 at 7:00 * This months Technical Gathering* *Location* Slaymaker Systems, Inc. 4914 Baum Blvd. Pittsburgh, PA 15213 Wednesday April 12, 2006 19:00 *Talks* * Perl Program Repair Shop and Red Flags - Mark Jason Dominus * Code Review World Tour Mark is writing a new book and needs your help. The following links should help explain more. http://perl.plover.com/flagbook/ http://perl.plover.com/flagbook/tour.html The summary is that MJD is coming to talk about bad perl code and how to fix it up. So you should send him your bad perl code so he can talk about. We all have bad code we use that we just don't have time to fix. Send it on. Or are you so perfect all your code is too? Then try to write some bad code and send that. Our meetings are open to anyone interested in Perl, the talk topic, beer, geekdom, etc. Please join us. From Dan at DWright.Org Sat Mar 25 07:10:44 2006 From: Dan at DWright.Org (Daniel J. Wright) Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:10:44 -0500 (EST) Subject: [pgh-pm] MJD on 4/12/06 Message-ID: <1570.69.164.183.97.1143299444.squirrel@webmail3.pair.com> Letter from MJD... Dear Pittsburgh Perl Mongers, I'm coming to visit you on April 12 as part of my tour to gather material for my new book, which I hope will be published in 2007. The book is about code review and refactoring in Perl. (For more complete information, please see http://perl.plover.com/flagbook/ .) To do the job right, I need real examples of real code that other people wrote. I'll review the code and fix it up, and explain in the book what I did and why. Please send me some code to look at so that I have something to talk about on April 12. I need it no later than Thursday, March 30, but sooner is better. What I need: code for a program or module that is between 150 and 700 lines long, not counting comments or blank lines. Also, you must be authorized to give me permission to use the code in my book. If I use your code in the talk, I will give you a free copy of my last book, _Higher-Order Perl_. (http://hop.perl.plover.com/) If I use your code in the new book, you'll get a free copy of that when it comes out. If you want more details about what I need, please see: http://perl.plover.com/flagbook/contribute.html To contribute, send code to: mjd at plover.com Questions? Send them to: mjd at plover.com Thanks. From ceo at fat24.com Tue Mar 28 09:11:00 2006 From: ceo at fat24.com (James Rose) Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 12:11:00 -0500 Subject: [pgh-pm] Perl and famous dot coms Message-ID: Dear Pittsburgh Men of Perl, I'm trying to put to short list of famous companies that first entered the market as Perl driven systems. The two most famous I can think of are Amazon.com and Ebay.com. Any others come to mind? Jim Rose From robertblackwell at yahoo.com Tue Mar 28 10:22:30 2006 From: robertblackwell at yahoo.com (Robert Blackwell) Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 10:22:30 -0800 (PST) Subject: [pgh-pm] Perl and famous dot coms In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20060328182230.3399.qmail@web52211.mail.yahoo.com> slashdot.org www.pair.com www.pairnic.com --- James Rose wrote: > Dear Pittsburgh Men of Perl, > > I'm trying to put to short list of famous companies that first entered > the market as Perl driven systems. The two most famous I can think of > are Amazon.com and Ebay.com. Any others come to mind? > > Jim Rose > > _______________________________________________ > pgh-pm mailing list > pgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pgh-pm > Robert Blackwell robert at robertblackwell.com AIM: robertdblackwell Yahoo!: robertblackwell Jabber: robertblackwell at jabber.com http://www.robertblackwell.com Skype: rblackwe From ceo at fat24.com Wed Mar 29 03:28:26 2006 From: ceo at fat24.com (James Rose) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 06:28:26 -0500 Subject: [pgh-pm] Perl and famous dot coms In-Reply-To: <20060328182230.3399.qmail@web52211.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <239C0716-BF17-11DA-BCBC-000393A64BC2@fat24.com> Thanks Robert. I'm not sure Pair would be on the same list as Ebay etc, as I'm trying to find the MOST famous. SlashDot I'm not certain on but let's throw on the list. I've also read that Yahoo uses Perl. Looks like my short list in order of fame is now: 1) Ebay.com 2) Amazon.com 3) Yahoo.com. 4) SlashDot.org Anyone else think of any glaring omissions to this hall of fame (websites either using or first prototyped in Perl)? Jim On Tuesday, Mar 28, 2006, at 13:22 US/Eastern, Robert Blackwell wrote: > slashdot.org > www.pair.com > www.pairnic.com > > > --- James Rose wrote: > >> Dear Pittsburgh Men of Perl, >> >> I'm trying to put to short list of famous companies that first entered >> the market as Perl driven systems. The two most famous I can think of >> are Amazon.com and Ebay.com. Any others come to mind? >> >> Jim Rose >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pgh-pm mailing list >> pgh-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pgh-pm >> > > > Robert Blackwell > robert at robertblackwell.com > AIM: robertdblackwell > Yahoo!: robertblackwell > Jabber: robertblackwell at jabber.com > http://www.robertblackwell.com > Skype: rblackwe > From Dan at DWright.Org Wed Mar 29 12:50:19 2006 From: Dan at DWright.Org (Daniel J. Wright) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 15:50:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: [pgh-pm] Code for MJD's talk. Message-ID: <3403.216.92.130.24.1143665419.squirrel@webmail5.pair.com> Just a reminder.. If you have code that you want MJD to look at for his talk, please send it to him before the end of this week: mjd at plover.com -Dan From robertblackwell at yahoo.com Wed Mar 29 13:01:11 2006 From: robertblackwell at yahoo.com (Robert Blackwell) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 13:01:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: [pgh-pm] MJD on 4/12/06 In-Reply-To: <1570.69.164.183.97.1143299444.squirrel@webmail3.pair.com> Message-ID: <20060329210111.8509.qmail@web52210.mail.yahoo.com> Just a reminder to send you code to MJD. He has not received any yet. Come on folks dig it out you know you have some code to share. --- "Daniel J. Wright" wrote: > Letter from MJD... > > Dear Pittsburgh Perl Mongers, > > I'm coming to visit you on April 12 as part of my tour to gather > material for my new book, which I hope will be published in 2007. > The book is about code review and refactoring in Perl. (For more > complete information, please see http://perl.plover.com/flagbook/ .) > > To do the job right, I need real examples of real code that other > people wrote. I'll review the code and fix it up, and explain in > the book what I did and why. > > Please send me some code to look at so that I have something to talk > about on April 12. I need it no later than Thursday, March 30, but > sooner is better. > > What I need: code for a program or module that is between 150 and > 700 lines long, not counting comments or blank lines. Also, you > must be authorized to give me permission to use the code in my book. > > If I use your code in the talk, I will give you a free copy of my > last book, _Higher-Order Perl_. (http://hop.perl.plover.com/) If I > use your code in the new book, you'll get a free copy of that when > it comes out. > > If you want more details about what I need, please see: > > http://perl.plover.com/flagbook/contribute.html > > To contribute, send code to: > > mjd at plover.com > > Questions? Send them to: > > mjd at plover.com > > Thanks. > > > _______________________________________________ > pgh-pm mailing list > pgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pgh-pm > Robert Blackwell robert at robertblackwell.com AIM: robertdblackwell Yahoo!: robertblackwell Jabber: robertblackwell at jabber.com http://www.robertblackwell.com Skype: rblackwe From robertblackwell at yahoo.com Wed Mar 29 13:51:55 2006 From: robertblackwell at yahoo.com (Robert Blackwell) Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 13:51:55 -0800 (PST) Subject: [pgh-pm] Code for MJD's talk. URGENT! In-Reply-To: <3403.216.92.130.24.1143665419.squirrel@webmail5.pair.com> Message-ID: <20060329215155.28948.qmail@web52210.mail.yahoo.com> I should add that without code MJD would have to cancel the talk. So this is URGENT! Please please, send MJD some code. --- "Daniel J. Wright" wrote: > > > Just a reminder.. > > If you have code that you want MJD to look at for his talk, please send > it to him before the end of this week: mjd at plover.com > > -Dan > > _______________________________________________ > pgh-pm mailing list > pgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pgh-pm > Robert Blackwell robert at robertblackwell.com AIM: robertdblackwell Yahoo!: robertblackwell Jabber: robertblackwell at jabber.com http://www.robertblackwell.com Skype: rblackwe