From casey at geeknest.com Wed Jan 4 07:09:33 2006 From: casey at geeknest.com (Casey West) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 10:09:33 -0500 Subject: [pgh-pm] Wiki Wednesday Tonight plus Special Guest! Message-ID: <9FEC76D4-89BA-4816-91EF-9083BE507926@geeknest.com> David Hand is in town this week and he's going to be at Dave & Busters for Wiki Wednesday! Come by and say hello to the former Pittsburgh.pm regular. :-) Pool and Beer sponsored by Socialtext! Please RSVP somehow. http://www.socialtext.net/wikiwed/member/index.cgi? pittsburgh_wiki_wednesday_jan_4 -- Casey West From tom at moertel.com Wed Jan 4 13:19:19 2006 From: tom at moertel.com (Tom Moertel) Date: Wed, 04 Jan 2006 16:19:19 -0500 Subject: [pgh-pm] Wiki Wednesday Tonight plus Special Guest! In-Reply-To: <9FEC76D4-89BA-4816-91EF-9083BE507926@geeknest.com> References: <9FEC76D4-89BA-4816-91EF-9083BE507926@geeknest.com> Message-ID: <43BC3BD7.5070300@moertel.com> Casey West wrote: > Please RSVP somehow. I'll be there. Cheers, Tom From david at hewettfamily.org Wed Jan 4 13:39:08 2006 From: david at hewettfamily.org (David Hewett) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 16:39:08 -0500 Subject: [pgh-pm] Wiki Wednesday Tonight plus Special Guest! References: <9FEC76D4-89BA-4816-91EF-9083BE507926@geeknest.com> Message-ID: <00c601c61177$4c6fbed0$77c8a10c@internal.messagingsolutions.net> I'll be there, too! From rdblackw at robertblackwell.com Wed Jan 4 13:53:55 2006 From: rdblackw at robertblackwell.com (Robert Blackwell) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 16:53:55 -0500 (EST) Subject: [pgh-pm] How do I get a windowlist to STDOUT? Message-ID: This is not really perl question. Unless your solution is in perl :) I have been digging around to find a nice way to output the windowlist to STDOUT but have not seen an easy solution. I would like to be able to do something like this screen -X windowlist > windows.txt The windowlist command shows the screen titles in the screen window. Am I missing something obvious? Thank You Robert From robert at robertblackwell.com Wed Jan 4 14:00:03 2006 From: robert at robertblackwell.com (Robert Blackwell) Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 14:00:03 -0800 (PST) Subject: [pgh-pm] How do I get a windowlist to STDOUT? Message-ID: <20060104220003.5432.qmail@web52208.mail.yahoo.com> This is not really perl question. Unless your solution is in perl :) I have been digging around to find a nice way to output the windowlist to STDOUT but have not seen an easy solution. I would like to be able to do something like this screen -X windowlist > windows.txt The windowlist command shows the screen titles in the screen window. Am I missing something obvious? Thank You Robert From laweber at switch.com Fri Jan 6 05:39:28 2006 From: laweber at switch.com (Weber, Larry A) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 08:39:28 -0500 Subject: [pgh-pm] Perl packages Message-ID: <3D7A5969DC27E747A85F69D1AFF864950DD673@exchptc2.uss.switch.com> I am gradually moving my Perl scripts from a Windows PC to a PC running Linux, and have a few questions related to package management. Does anyone know if there is an equivalent to PPM for Linux? Is there a way to get a list of installed packages or to check for a specific package? Major packages, such as LWP, are frequently split up into 10 or more packages. Is there an easy way to get everything at one time. With PPM3 I could stay s LWP-* and then install [range]. -laweber -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/pipermail/pgh-pm/attachments/20060106/189bd280/attachment.html From chris.winters at gmail.com Fri Jan 6 09:16:57 2006 From: chris.winters at gmail.com (Chris Winters) Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2006 12:16:57 -0500 Subject: [pgh-pm] Perl packages In-Reply-To: <3D7A5969DC27E747A85F69D1AFF864950DD673@exchptc2.uss.switch.com> References: <3D7A5969DC27E747A85F69D1AFF864950DD673@exchptc2.uss.switch.com> Message-ID: On 1/6/06, Weber, Larry A wrote: > I am gradually moving my Perl scripts from a Windows PC to a PC running > Linux, and have a few questions related to package management. > > Does anyone know if there is an equivalent to PPM for Linux? As long as you have make and a compiler for modules with XS, the CPAN shell works very well -- IIRC modern Perls install a 'cpan' script at /usr/bin that will startup the shell for you, otherwise you need to do: > perl -MCPAN -e shell > Is there a way to get a list of installed packages or to check for a > specific package? Installed packages I'm not so sure about, but searching for specific packages from the CPAN shell is pretty easy: cpan> m /LWP/ Module Babble::Transport::LWP (A/AL/ALGERNON/Babble-0.07.tar.gz) Module Gtk::LWP (L/LU/LUPUS/Gtk-Perl-0.7008.tar.gz) Module Gtk::LWP::http (L/LU/LUPUS/Gtk-Perl-0.7008.tar.gz) ... cpan> d /LWP/ Distribution A/AU/AUTRIJUS/LWP-Authen-Wsse-0.05.tar.gz Distribution B/BI/BILLH/LWP-LastURI-0.03.tar.gz Distribution B/BI/BILLH/LWP-UserAgent-iTMS_Client-0.15.tar.gz ... cpan> ls CWEST 2233 2002-09-22 CWEST/ACME-Error-0.03.tar.gz ... entering a '?' at the shell prompt gives you some more options. > Major packages, such as LWP, are frequently split up into 10 or more > packages. Is there an easy way to get everything at one time. With PPM3 I > could stay s LWP-* and then install [range]. Many times these are packaged in a single Bundle:: module. For instance, with LWP you can do: cpan> install Bundle::LWP and it will install all the referenced modules. Good luck! Chris From ceo at fat24.com Fri Jan 6 10:16:23 2006 From: ceo at fat24.com (James Rose) Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 13:16:23 -0500 Subject: [pgh-pm] Perl packages In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <8B442C5C-7EE0-11DA-A247-000393A64BC2@fat24.com> On Friday, Jan 6, 2006, at 12:16 US/Eastern, Chris Winters wrote: > On 1/6/06, Weber, Larry A wrote: >> I am gradually moving my Perl scripts from a Windows PC to a PC >> running >> Linux, and have a few questions related to package management. >> >> Does anyone know if there is an equivalent to PPM for Linux? > > As long as you have make and a compiler for modules with XS, the CPAN > shell works very well -- IIRC modern Perls install a 'cpan' script at > /usr/bin that will startup the shell for you, otherwise you need to > do: > >> perl -MCPAN -e shell Anyone using a Mac OS X might find it handy to cd ~ and pico your .loginrc file, adding the line: alias cpan 'cd /usr/bin/ && sudo perl -MCPAN -e shell' Then from ~ make sure to % source .loginrc Then you can just type "cpan" from the terminal any time you want to install a perl module. From robert at robertblackwell.com Mon Jan 9 06:33:36 2006 From: robert at robertblackwell.com (Robert Blackwell) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 06:33:36 -0800 (PST) Subject: [pgh-pm] Pittsburgh Perl Mongers | Meeting | Jan 11, 2005 Message-ID: <20060109143336.80783.qmail@web52204.mail.yahoo.com> Looks like we have a great meeting planned. Hope to see you there. *Technical Gathering* Our meetings are open to anyone interested in Perl, the talk topic, beer, geekdom, etc. Please join us. *Location* Slaymaker Systems, Inc. 4914 Baum Blvd. Pittsburgh, PA 15213 Wednesday Jan 11, 2005 19:00 *Talks* * Stroke Order Diagram Editor-Retrographer - Jim Rose * * Will talk about his Gumstix computer- Chris Winters * * Will talk about attributes - Casey West * * MJD news - Robert Blackwell * * PPW - All * *After Talk* We will go to a Restaurant/Bar for food and drink after the talk. The last few meetings we have gone to Sharp Edge Beer Emporium (http://www.sharpedgebeer.com/). That may or may not be where we go this meeting. Robert Blackwell Robert Blackwell robert at robertblackwell.com AIM: robertdblackwell Yahoo!: robertblackwell Jabber: robertblackwell at jabber.com http://www.robertblackwell.com Skype: rblackwe From eric at openthought.net Mon Jan 9 12:12:12 2006 From: eric at openthought.net (Eric Andreychek) Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 20:12:12 +0000 Subject: [pgh-pm] YAPC::NA::2006 in Chicago Message-ID: <20060109201212.GF14434@openthought.net> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hey guys, Just today I noticed on the YAPC website that the venue of Chicago was chosen for YAPC this year. Some folks from Harrisburg are considering attending... and we're seriously considering taking the train out there. YAPC runs from Mon, June 26, through Wed, June 29th. There's a train that departs on Friday and lands in Pittsburgh, where there's a layover from around 7pm until 11pm. It then departs from Pittsburgh to Chicago, about a 9 hour ride. We can sleep for much of that. We have plenty of time to work out specifics, but perhaps there'd be an opportunity for some of us to meet up and travel together. It's a fun train ride, and most of the cars have AC outlets for those who dislike being without a laptop :-) During the layover, maybe we could do dinner together. Just a thought! Have a good one, -Eric - -- Eric Andreychek | Lucy: "What happens if you practice the Eric Conspiracy Secret Labs | piano for 20 years and then end up not eric at openthought.net | being rich and famous?" http://openthought.net | Schroeder: "The joy is in the playing." -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDwsOcR5UKaDAjAG4RAsBtAKDl/XPtWAz9Yhr1anG6ZkEEl8EPQQCg53ka 7QUxM4j1Ca+ju7I860yCm5M= =nNLY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- From robertblackwell at yahoo.com Wed Jan 11 07:34:45 2006 From: robertblackwell at yahoo.com (Robert Blackwell) Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 07:34:45 -0800 (PST) Subject: [pgh-pm] Fwd: Pittsburgh Perl Mongers | Meeting | Jan 11, 2005 Message-ID: <20060111153445.3994.qmail@web52203.mail.yahoo.com> It is meeting night :) Don't forget. Hope to see you there. --- Robert Blackwell wrote: > From Robert Blackwell Mon Jan 9 06:33:36 2006 > Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 06:33:36 -0800 (PST) > From: Robert Blackwell > To: pgh-pm at pm.org > Subject: [pgh-pm] Pittsburgh Perl Mongers | Meeting | Jan 11, 2005 > > Looks like we have a great meeting planned. Hope to see you there. > > *Technical Gathering* > > Our meetings are open to anyone interested in Perl, the talk topic, beer, geekdom, etc. Please > join us. > > *Location* > > Slaymaker Systems, Inc. > 4914 Baum Blvd. > Pittsburgh, PA 15213 > > Wednesday Jan 11, 2005 > 19:00 > > *Talks* > > * Stroke Order Diagram Editor-Retrographer - Jim Rose * > > * Will talk about his Gumstix computer- Chris Winters * > > * Will talk about attributes - Casey West * > > * MJD news - Robert Blackwell * > > * PPW - All * > > > *After Talk* > > We will go to a Restaurant/Bar for food and drink after the talk. > The last few meetings we have gone to Sharp Edge Beer Emporium (http://www.sharpedgebeer.com/). > That may or may not be where we go this meeting. > > > > Robert Blackwell > > > > > > Robert Blackwell > robert at robertblackwell.com > AIM: robertdblackwell > Yahoo!: robertblackwell > Jabber: robertblackwell at jabber.com > http://www.robertblackwell.com > Skype: rblackwe > _______________________________________________ > pgh-pm mailing list > pgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pgh-pm > Robert Blackwell robert at robertblackwell.com AIM: robertdblackwell Yahoo!: robertblackwell Jabber: robertblackwell at jabber.com http://www.robertblackwell.com Skype: rblackwe From rdblackw at robertblackwell.com Thu Jan 12 09:28:18 2006 From: rdblackw at robertblackwell.com (Robert Blackwell) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 12:28:18 -0500 (EST) Subject: [pgh-pm] Games Message-ID: OK so I recently subscribed to Pittsburgh Robotic Society's mailing list. Today I find this which sounds like it relates to some of our talk at dinner last night. Maybe we could do some cross group interaction. They have a website at http://www.pghrobotics.org/. Just a thought. Robert ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:34:26 -0500 From: Ian Robertson Reply-To: pittrobotsociety at yahoogroups.com To: pittrobotsociety at yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [PRS] Nano(Mini)Bot Magellan - original from Pittsburgh Brilliant. Dan wrote: Mike, I was thinking some more about the (Mini)NanoBot Magellan contest I mentioned at the last meeting (actually in the hobby shop). I think this would be something that we could originate here in Pittsburgh. Since this place is very big into train displays, there is alot of experience here in building a terrain similar to a train display to use for this contest. The contest can be similar to the current Robo-Magellan and maybe create another one using different objectives, such as, a search and rescue mission (find the pilot downed in enemy territory). The list can go on , such as using multiple bots in one mission. What I've been thinking about in the meantime is what size should the little bots have to be,either Mini or Nano scale.. Also,what kind of 'GPS' like positioning system to integrate into the gameboard so that they can detect their position throughout just as larger robots can with actual GPS. The terrain of the gameboard should be similar to what someone makes for a trainset, such as, flat, grassy, hills, rocky, obstacles(trees, houses). I think we might have to consider the scale of everything on there too, HO gauge or larger(?) if we use buildings.Actually the Nano(Mini)bots would looks larger in comparison to the HO building which make it interesting. So far, to integrate the GPS emulator into the gameboard would require some embedded array of beacons in the gameboard that is non-obtrusive (doesn't stick out). So this leads me to think about using low power RF beacons which the bot can detect using simple detectors. It doesn't have to be high speed, it's just a few ascii bytes to send and it's doesn't have to be high powered (not supposed to be). So I think we can make this with ordinary parts. One thing I was looking at is to make a modular PCB which would interconnect to make a larger array that would mount under the gameboard(4'x8'). That way it would be easier to assemble. the beacon antennas would simply be flat square of copper on the double sided PCB and the components can be soldered on the opposite side. This project has me thinking all day, but it would take alot of work to get ready. But I think it would be a great demonstration to showoff. =Dan -- .~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~. [My Corner of Cyberspace http://ragooman.home.comcast.net/ ] [Pittsburgh Robotics Society Got Robot? http://www.pghrobotics.org/ ] [Pittsburgh Vintage Comp.Society http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pghvintagecomp/ ] .~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/227 - Release Date: 1/11/2006 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ [ Pittsburgh Robotics Society ] [ Got Robot ? ] [ http://www.pghrobotics.org/ ] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS * Visit your group "pittrobotsociety" on the web. * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: pittrobotsociety-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ From chris.winters at gmail.com Thu Jan 12 11:31:12 2006 From: chris.winters at gmail.com (Chris Winters) Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 14:31:12 -0500 Subject: [pgh-pm] gumstix links Message-ID: Just in case anyone was interested in learning more about the gumstix I showed last night, you can learn more at: http://www.gumstix.com/ I've also got a few links collected over the last couple weeks at: http://del.icio.us/cwinters/gumstix where I remembered that there are *two* display makers using the gumstix: E-Ink and Polymer Vision. Chris From robert at robertblackwell.com Tue Jan 17 13:31:06 2006 From: robert at robertblackwell.com (Robert Blackwell) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:31:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [pgh-pm] The Feb meeting and screen Message-ID: <20060117213106.10310.qmail@web52205.mail.yahoo.com> Fellow Mongers, I would like to propose a talk about screen for our Feb meeting. So as most of you know I have been doing some stuff with screen. Some fellow mongers do not seem too familiar with screen so I thougt I might talk a little about it at my next talk. And I would hope some other screen users out there might be able to contribute a little as well. This is really preparation for a future talk that will be more about the stuff I am doing with perl, screen and some other stuff I thought. So I will do about 30 minutes on screen at the next meeting if people are interested. Please chime in soon if you are interested so I have time to put it together. Robert Blackwell robert at robertblackwell.com AIM: robertdblackwell Yahoo!: robertblackwell Jabber: robertblackwell at jabber.com http://www.robertblackwell.com Skype: rblackwe From Dan at DWright.Org Tue Jan 17 14:28:40 2006 From: Dan at DWright.Org (Daniel J. Wright) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:28:40 -0500 (EST) Subject: [pgh-pm] The Feb meeting and screen In-Reply-To: <20060117213106.10310.qmail@web52205.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20060117213106.10310.qmail@web52205.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1220.216.92.130.24.1137536920.squirrel@webmail4.pair.com> Screen is a really cool tool. I think a talk on it would be good. Additionally.. if anybody has figured out how to have multiple vim applications attached to the same vim session, I'd really love to learn about that. -Dan > Fellow Mongers, > > I would like to propose a talk about screen for our Feb meeting. So as > most of you know I have > been doing some stuff with screen. Some fellow mongers do not seem too > familiar with screen so I > thougt I might talk a little about it at my next talk. And I would hope > some other screen users > out there might be able to contribute a little as well. This is really > preparation for a future > talk that will be more about the stuff I am doing with perl, screen and > some other stuff I > thought. > > So I will do about 30 minutes on screen at the next meeting if people are > interested. Please > chime in soon if you are interested so I have time to put it together. > > > > Robert Blackwell > robert at robertblackwell.com > AIM: robertdblackwell > Yahoo!: robertblackwell > Jabber: robertblackwell at jabber.com > http://www.robertblackwell.com > Skype: rblackwe > _______________________________________________ > pgh-pm mailing list > pgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pgh-pm > From robert at robertblackwell.com Sat Jan 21 20:59:41 2006 From: robert at robertblackwell.com (Robert Blackwell) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 20:59:41 -0800 (PST) Subject: [pgh-pm] Pittsburgh Perl Mongers | Meeting | May 11, 2005 Message-ID: <20060122045941.66143.qmail@web52213.mail.yahoo.com> Casey, So this is what I think we should have on the poster. Feel free to add or delete as needed. -- I left out the location to force people to the website for that but I am not sure about that. Pittsburgh Perl Mongers [ Onion logo ] Wednesday Jan 8 at 7:00 Next meeting Wednesday Feb 8, 2006 19:00 *Talks* * Webservers in perl - Casey West * [ your descripton ] * Into to GNU/Screen - Robert Blackwell * GNU Screen is an open-source terminal multiplexer developed by the GNU Project. It allows a user to access multiple separate terminal sessions inside a single terminal window or remote terminal session. It is useful for dealing with multiple programs from the command line, and for separating programs from the shell that started the program. You will learn what screen is and how it can help and a few tricks to get be more productive using screen. Upcoming meetings March 8 * Profiling Perl - Dan Wright * * Screen Hackery - Robert Blackwell * April 12 * Special Guest Speaker Mark Jason Dominus * Red Flags: Code Review World Tour More information at pgh.pm.org, and link to mailing list. Our meetings are open to anyone interested in Perl, the talk topic, beer, geekdom, etc. Please join us. Perl is a general-purpose programming language originally developed for text manipulation and now used for a wide range of tasks including system administration, web development, network programming, GUI development, and more Robert Blackwell robert at robertblackwell.com AIM: robertdblackwell Yahoo!: robertblackwell Jabber: robertblackwell at jabber.com http://www.robertblackwell.com Skype: rblackwe From robert at robertblackwell.com Sat Jan 21 21:01:42 2006 From: robert at robertblackwell.com (Robert Blackwell) Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 21:01:42 -0800 (PST) Subject: [pgh-pm] Pittsburgh Perl Mongers | Meeting | May 11, 2005 Message-ID: <20060122050142.90995.qmail@web52210.mail.yahoo.com> Sorry all I am too tired ... I meant to just send this to Casey and not the list. :( --- Robert Blackwell wrote: > Casey, > > So this is what I think we should have on the poster. Feel free to add or delete as needed. > > -- I left out the location to force people to the website for that but I am not sure about that. > > Pittsburgh Perl Mongers > > [ Onion logo ] > > Wednesday Jan 8 at 7:00 > > Next meeting Wednesday Feb 8, 2006 19:00 > > *Talks* > > * Webservers in perl - Casey West * > > [ your descripton ] > > * Into to GNU/Screen - Robert Blackwell * > > GNU Screen is an open-source terminal multiplexer developed by the GNU Project. It allows a user > to access multiple separate terminal sessions inside a single terminal window or remote terminal > session. It is useful for dealing with multiple programs from the command line, and for > separating > programs from the shell that started the program. > > You will learn what screen is and how it can help and a few tricks to get be more productive > using > screen. > > Upcoming meetings > > March 8 > > * Profiling Perl - Dan Wright * > * Screen Hackery - Robert Blackwell * > > April 12 > > * Special Guest Speaker Mark Jason Dominus * > Red Flags: Code Review World Tour > > More information at pgh.pm.org, and link to mailing list. > > Our meetings are open to anyone interested in Perl, the talk topic, beer, geekdom, etc. Please > join us. > > Perl is a general-purpose programming language originally developed for text manipulation and > now > used for a wide range of tasks including system administration, web development, network > programming, GUI development, and more > > Robert Blackwell > robert at robertblackwell.com > AIM: robertdblackwell > Yahoo!: robertblackwell > Jabber: robertblackwell at jabber.com > http://www.robertblackwell.com > Skype: rblackwe >