From rblackwe at speakeasy.net Fri Aug 4 03:22:03 2006 From: rblackwe at speakeasy.net (rblackwe at speakeasy.net) Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 10:22:03 +0000 Subject: [pgh-pm] Pittsburgh Perl Mongers | Meeting | August 9, 2005 Message-ID: Pittsburgh Perl Mongers Don't forget to registar for the Pittsburgh Perl Workshop 23 Sep 2006. I you already have thank you. I you haven't please do so soon. http://pghpw.org/ * This months Technical Gathering* *Location* Slaymaker Systems, Inc. 4914 Baum Blvd. Pittsburgh, PA 15213 Wednesday August 9 at 19:00 *Talks* * "Objects, Inheritance, Dispatching, and NEXT" Dan Wright * Talk time will be about 45 minutes. This will be a beginner-level talk (perhaps a bit remedial for the regulars). I'll get into a little bit about how you can write object oriented code in Perl. As the title implies, I explain how to set up inheritance amongst your classes and even get into a few tricks to make diamond inheritance work. More information at pgh.pm.org, and link to mailing list. Our meetings are open to anyone interested in Perl, the talk topic, beer, geekdom, etc. Please join us. From rblackwe at speakeasy.net Fri Aug 4 03:39:33 2006 From: rblackwe at speakeasy.net (rblackwe at speakeasy.net) Date: Fri, 04 Aug 2006 10:39:33 +0000 Subject: [pgh-pm] Pittsburgh Perl Mongers | Meeting | August 9, 2005 Message-ID: Pittsburgh Perl Mongers Don't forget to registar for the Pittsburgh Perl Workshop 23 Sep 2006. I you already have thank you. I you haven't please do so soon. http://pghpw.org/ * This months Technical Gathering* *Location* Slaymaker Systems, Inc. 4914 Baum Blvd. Pittsburgh, PA 15213 Wednesday August 9 at 19:00 *Talks* * "Objects, Inheritance, Dispatching, and NEXT" Dan Wright * Talk time will be about 45 minutes. This will be a beginner-level talk (perhaps a bit remedial for the regulars). I'll get into a little bit about how you can write object oriented code in Perl. As the title implies, I explain how to set up inheritance amongst your classes and even get into a few tricks to make diamond inheritance work. More information at pgh.pm.org, and link to mailing list. Our meetings are open to anyone interested in Perl, the talk topic, beer, geekdom, etc. Please join us. From Dan at DWright.Org Wed Aug 9 13:20:58 2006 From: Dan at DWright.Org (Daniel J. Wright) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 16:20:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [pgh-pm] Anybody coming tonight? Message-ID: <54357.216.92.130.24.1155154858.squirrel@webmail2.pair.com> >From what I understand, Robert & Tom won't be making it to the meeting tonight. Additionally, Casey mentioned he was busy getting ready for a trip so he may or may not be there. Does anybody intend to come to the meeting tonight, or should we just postpone till September? -Dan From chris.winters at gmail.com Wed Aug 9 14:13:39 2006 From: chris.winters at gmail.com (Chris Winters) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 17:13:39 -0400 Subject: [pgh-pm] Fwd: Anybody coming tonight? In-Reply-To: References: <54357.216.92.130.24.1155154858.squirrel@webmail2.pair.com> Message-ID: gah, forgot to include the group on this ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Chris Winters Date: Aug 9, 2006 5:13 PM Subject: Re: [pgh-pm] Anybody coming tonight? To: "Daniel J. Wright" On 8/9/06, Daniel J. Wright wrote: > >From what I understand, Robert & Tom won't be making it to the meeting > tonight. Additionally, Casey mentioned he was busy getting ready for a > trip so he may or may not be there. > > Does anybody intend to come to the meeting tonight, or should we just > postpone till September? Sounds like we should put it off; it's just as well for me, because there was a fatal accident on the parkway that's tying things up between points east and Bloomfield. C From jo2y at midnightlinux.com Wed Aug 9 14:18:05 2006 From: jo2y at midnightlinux.com (James O'Kane) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 14:18:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [pgh-pm] Anybody coming tonight? In-Reply-To: <54357.216.92.130.24.1155154858.squirrel@webmail2.pair.com> References: <54357.216.92.130.24.1155154858.squirrel@webmail2.pair.com> Message-ID: On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Daniel J. Wright wrote: > > From what I understand, Robert & Tom won't be making it to the meeting > tonight. Additionally, Casey mentioned he was busy getting ready for a > trip so he may or may not be there. > > Does anybody intend to come to the meeting tonight, or should we just > postpone till September? I won't be able to make it either. -james From Dan at DWright.Org Wed Aug 9 14:21:57 2006 From: Dan at DWright.Org (Daniel J. Wright) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 17:21:57 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [pgh-pm] Anybody coming tonight? In-Reply-To: <54357.216.92.130.24.1155154858.squirrel@webmail2.pair.com> References: <54357.216.92.130.24.1155154858.squirrel@webmail2.pair.com> Message-ID: <57474.216.92.130.24.1155158517.squirrel@webmail2.pair.com> So far, looks like Malcom is the only person coming. Anybody from Slaymaker going to be there to open the doors? I'll be there at 7:00 in case people show up. If we get a few people, we'll meet. If we don't have a group by 7:15, or if we can't get in, we'll have to postpone till September. -Dan > >>From what I understand, Robert & Tom won't be making it to the meeting > tonight. Additionally, Casey mentioned he was busy getting ready for a > trip so he may or may not be there. > > Does anybody intend to come to the meeting tonight, or should we just > postpone till September? > > -Dan > > _______________________________________________ > pgh-pm mailing list > pgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pgh-pm > From casey at geeknest.com Wed Aug 9 14:23:16 2006 From: casey at geeknest.com (Casey West) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 17:23:16 -0400 Subject: [pgh-pm] Not making it Message-ID: <20266B63-3D6A-4860-A782-8226EFAA598E@geeknest.com> I can't make it tonight. Sick baby, emergency trip to Finland this weekend, craziness. Sorry folks, -- Casey West From barries at slaysys.com Wed Aug 9 14:36:29 2006 From: barries at slaysys.com (Barrie Slaymaker) Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 17:36:29 -0400 Subject: [pgh-pm] Anybody coming tonight? In-Reply-To: <57474.216.92.130.24.1155158517.squirrel@webmail2.pair.com> References: <54357.216.92.130.24.1155154858.squirrel@webmail2.pair.com> <57474.216.92.130.24.1155158517.squirrel@webmail2.pair.com> Message-ID: <44DA555D.3010408@slaysys.com> You can get in. Without using a rock. - Barrie Daniel J. Wright wrote: > So far, looks like Malcom is the only person coming. Anybody from > Slaymaker going to be there to open the doors? > > I'll be there at 7:00 in case people show up. If we get a few people, > we'll meet. If we don't have a group by 7:15, or if we can't get in, > we'll have to postpone till September. > > -Dan > > > >> >From what I understand, Robert & Tom won't be making it to the meeting >> tonight. Additionally, Casey mentioned he was busy getting ready for a >> trip so he may or may not be there. >> >> Does anybody intend to come to the meeting tonight, or should we just >> postpone till September? >> >> -Dan >> >> _______________________________________________ >> pgh-pm mailing list >> pgh-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pgh-pm >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > pgh-pm mailing list > pgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pgh-pm > From ceo at fat24.com Fri Aug 11 13:52:47 2006 From: ceo at fat24.com (CEO FAT24) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 16:52:47 -0400 Subject: [pgh-pm] Making meetings more beginner friendly: some starting points In-Reply-To: <43F515ED.2050702@verizon.net> References: <43F4C0E6.1040605@moertel.com> <43F515ED.2050702@verizon.net> Message-ID: <85995F29-097E-4BED-9A14-CD3D974C0DF0@fat24.com> One of the things about Perl is that its really the "I did it my way" language... and that often makes Perl users feel insecure. It would be nice to have somebody say "I'm OK, You're OK" ha ha. On Feb 16, 2006, at 7:16 PM, Matthew J. Hughes wrote: > I think the biggest thing to increase attendance in meetings is to > announce them via email. (Though that may be a personal thing. I > always > seem to find out about the meetings after they have occurred.) > I like all of the ideas bellow. I am most intrigued at the Problem > solution stuff. A contest for something per meeting would be great. Be > it a glass of beer or Pepsi. However one of the things about PERL is > that there is more than one way to do it. Even if you have an > answer to > the contest you may like someone else's. I think for me the best > way to > learn/improve my perl is to use it. To use it, I think a series of > challenges that increase in difficulty or adds new tools would be > best. > Oh and they must be solvable. (a challenge like writing a quine would > put me off not encourage.) > One last general thought about new members and organizations like > this. There is a wide variance in the membership. Beginners sometimes > don't understand enough to comment on the advanced topics and advanced > users tend to be bored about beginning topics. getting them both > interested in the same meeting is _very_ difficult. For my personal > situation I was very interested in PERL several years ago. I taught > myself some basic perl before life interrupted me. I later decided > that > I need somebody else to say I knew something and took the class at > CCAC. > Which on the whole was good but since I pretty much already knew what > was in the beginning class it was not necessary. Having let my perl > skills lay dormant for a couple of years I am somewhere between novice > and intermediate. > Lastly I would say, that in my recent experience, accreditation > would > encourage participation. I am currently unemployed and to know that I > could seek accreditation assistance through your Organization would be > great. If I were employed I think that it would also be beneficial, as > it would make me more valuable to future employers. > > Matthew Hughes. > > > Tom Moertel wrote: > >> Pittsburgh Camelfolk, >> >> During one of our discussions on reaching out to a wider audience, we >> considered giving talks of a more introductory nature. To move >> forward, >> maybe we ought to work on a list of beginner-friendly ideas. >> >> To get things started, here are some thoughts. >> >> Introductory talks of any kind are good. Even better are talks >> that -- >> >> - emphasize helpful Perl features that might not >> be obvious to people coming from other languages >> (e.g., closures, dynamic scoping, live symbol table) >> >> - show how to take steps from Perl beginner to Perl journeyman >> (e.g., how to create packages, contribute to CPAN, test >> effectively, become a part of the Perl community) >> >> - demonstrate solving interesting problems that Perl is uniquely >> suited to solve quickly, easily, and/or elegantly (e.g., >> log-file analysis, spam protection, one-liners) >> >> - show how Perl can be used to kick butt in problem domains >> where people might not think it fits (e.g., statistics, >> finance, video editing, online poker, etc.) >> >> Some of our past talks have touched on these areas before. Maybe we >> should revisit them? >> >> Some of these areas we have not covered much, if at all. Seems like >> easy pickings must be in there somewhere. >> >> Other ideas for beginner-friendly meeting features: >> >> *Coding Rumble* At each meeting (and on the mailing list) we pose a >> small yet interesting programming problem and invite people to submit >> solutions in Perl. Then at the next meeting, we take a look at the >> solutions, highlight the interesting bits, and extract useful tips >> and >> tricks. We might even pick a winner and offer a prize of a free >> beer or >> something. >> >> *CPAN Update* A regular feature where we select a recent offering or >> two from CPAN and show how they can be put to good use. >> >> *Itchy Scratchy* We invite people, at meetings and on the mailing >> list, >> to submit problems. Then we select an interesting submission, >> solve it >> with Perl, and talk about it at the next meeting. >> >> >> PLEASE HELP! >> >> OK, now it's your turn. Do any of these ideas sound good? Can >> you add >> anything? Can you think of a concrete step we can take to move >> any of >> this stuff closer to reality? >> >> If you are a lurker on this mailing list, we especially want to hear >> from you. Want do you want out of Pgh PM? If you don't come to >> meetings, why not? What can we do to change your mind? Please >> let us know. >> >> Cheers, >> Tom >> _______________________________________________ >> pgh-pm mailing list >> pgh-pm at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pgh-pm >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ > pgh-pm mailing list > pgh-pm at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pgh-pm From Dan at DWright.Org Wed Aug 16 16:53:31 2006 From: Dan at DWright.Org (Daniel J. Wright) Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2006 19:53:31 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [pgh-pm] Pinball Tournament this weekend. Message-ID: <52218.216.92.130.24.1155772411.squirrel@webmail12.pair.com> If you've got nothing to do this weekend, you should stop by and check out the Pinball World Championships going on in Carnegie, PA http://www.papa.org/ I'll be there Thursday evening. -Dan From gakins at insomnia-consulting.org Mon Aug 21 11:23:56 2006 From: gakins at insomnia-consulting.org (Greg Akins) Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 14:23:56 -0400 Subject: [pgh-pm] August Coding DOjo Message-ID: <8526685f0608211123v6ea248a0k4a2143f6cda2fd9e@mail.gmail.com> The August meeting of the Pittsburgh Coding Dojo will be held Thursday August 31st 6:00PM - 8:00PM at the Pittsburgh Technology Council. Go to our website ( http://pghcodingdojo.org) for more information. This month's meeting will focus on finding solutions to Conway's Game Of Life. Some links to describe the problem are: http://www.math.com/students/wonders/life/life.html http://docs.codehaus.org/display/DROOLS/Conway's+Game+Of+Life+Example PghCodingDojo.org is backup, but I haven't began getting content and the Wiki back up (Too busy this summer ;-) Please contact me if you're planning on attending, and join the Yahoo! Group ( http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/pghcodingdojo ) to keep up on the group's activity. -- ============== Greg Akins http://www.pghcodingdojo.org -- ============== Greg Akins http://www.pghcodingdojo.org From Dan at DWright.Org Thu Aug 31 08:57:06 2006 From: Dan at DWright.Org (Daniel J. Wright) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 11:57:06 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [pgh-pm] Pittsburgh Perl Mongers | Meeting | September 13, 2006 Message-ID: <3304.10.8.0.6.1157039826.squirrel@webmail10.pair.com> This month's Gathering Location Slaymaker Systems, Inc. 4914 Baum Blvd. Pittsburgh, PA 15213 Wednesday September 13, 2006 19:00 Talks Pittsburgh Perl Workshop It's crunch time! The Pittsburgh Perl Workshop is just around the corner. At the next Perl Mongers meeting, we will be reviewing everybody's job on the day of the event, answering questions, and handling any issues that people bring up. Interested in helping out at PPW? Come to this meeting! We need lots of help. Never been to a Perl Mongers meeting before? Now is the best time to get involved.