From michael at jamhome.us  Tue Jan  4 08:42:52 2011
From: michael at jamhome.us (Michael)
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 08:42:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Pdx-pm] Local classes?
Message-ID: <38153.170.135.112.12.1294159372.squirrel@mail.jamhome.us>



In Portland/Beaverton. 

I have an easily distracted co-worker
looking for Perl classes.? PCC hasn't offered once since 2008 and
Stonehenge is out of his price range.

Other possibilities?


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From daniel at digitree.org  Sat Jan  8 21:29:05 2011
From: daniel at digitree.org (Daniel Hedlund)
Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2011 21:29:05 -0800
Subject: [Pdx-pm] Mojolicious anyone?
Message-ID: <AANLkTi=1FYHr7poLpqODAOS3iWgzQrSwN-Y4UCu=eER6@mail.gmail.com>

Has anyone had a chance to play around with Mojolicious
(http://mojolicio.us/)?  If so, what's been your experience with it?
It looks very cool and reminds me a lot of the Sinatra DSL for Ruby,
but with support for some HTML5 features out of the box (i.e.
websockets).  If there's any interest, I could try to give a
demonstration at a future meeting.

A couple examples from their website...

# Simple route with plain text response
get '/hello' => sub { shift->render(text => 'Hello World!') };

# WebSocket echo service
websocket '/echo' => sub {
    my $self = shift;
    $self->on_message(
        sub {
            my ($self, $message) = @_;
            $self->send_message("echo: $message");
        }
    );
};


Cheers,

Daniel Hedlund
daniel at digitree.org

From joshua at keroes.com  Sun Jan  9 13:11:46 2011
From: joshua at keroes.com (Joshua Keroes)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 16:11:46 -0500
Subject: [Pdx-pm] Mojolicious anyone?
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Checked it out during a plane flight last week. It seems to cover all of the
same features that PerlDancer does, almost down the line. I just deployed a
Dancer app last week so I'm fond of that one.

Mojolicious expands on the knowledge picked up from Catalyst before it, so
even though it's new, it's reasonably mature even at version 1.01.

Mojolicious has a better route-builder. Both Dancer and Mojolicious support
named variables in the routes (e.g. /path/to/:id, where $id or param->{id}
or something similar) will be available in the route handler, Mojo also
permits you to use regular expressions AND named variables. Dancer makes you
choose one or the other. It's not a huge difference, but Mojo's flexibility
here will make for more legible code and save a line or two later.

Dancer's documentation seems to map into my mind better. I much prefer
Dancer's default templating system (and any of the alternatives, really) to
Mojo's default, which seems to be something wrapped around HTML::Ep. (Please
correct me on that, I was offline when I was looking at those docs)

If you'd like to compare them yourself, I'd suggest deploying three
frameworks: Dancer's default (there's only one; e.g. dancer -a
Your::Application), and both types of Mojolicious builds: (e.g. mojo
generate lite_app Your::App and mojo generate app Your::Full::App).

-Joshua

On Sun, Jan 9, 2011 at 12:29 AM, Daniel Hedlund <daniel at digitree.org> wrote:

> Has anyone had a chance to play around with Mojolicious
> (http://mojolicio.us/)?  If so, what's been your experience with it?
> It looks very cool and reminds me a lot of the Sinatra DSL for Ruby,
> but with support for some HTML5 features out of the box (i.e.
> websockets).  If there's any interest, I could try to give a
> demonstration at a future meeting.
>
> A couple examples from their website...
>
> # Simple route with plain text response
> get '/hello' => sub { shift->render(text => 'Hello World!') };
>
> # WebSocket echo service
> websocket '/echo' => sub {
>    my $self = shift;
>    $self->on_message(
>        sub {
>            my ($self, $message) = @_;
>            $self->send_message("echo: $message");
>        }
>    );
> };
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Daniel Hedlund
> daniel at digitree.org
> _______________________________________________
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From shlomif at iglu.org.il  Sun Jan  9 12:56:33 2011
From: shlomif at iglu.org.il (Shlomi Fish)
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2011 22:56:33 +0200
Subject: [Pdx-pm] Mojolicious anyone?
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Hi Daniel,

On Sunday 09 Jan 2011 07:29:05 Daniel Hedlund wrote:
> Has anyone had a chance to play around with Mojolicious
> (http://mojolicio.us/)?  If so, what's been your experience with it?

I worked on a paid project where I was instructed to use it and KiokuDB back 
in the 0.9999-something days. I've given a presentation about my experience to 
a Tel Aviv web-developers knowledge sharing meeting:

http://www.shlomifish.org/lecture/Perl/Lightning/Mojolicious/

After all that, one of Mojo's developers complained that my code was ugly, and 
later on banned me from Mojolicious' irc.perl.org channel, and refused to lift 
the ban, even after my boss contacted him about it. We ended up having to seek 
a different alternative and ended up choosing Catalyst.

I also recently studied Dancer ( http://perldancer.org/ ), which seems very 
similar to Mojolicious::Lite due to the fact they were both inspired by 
Sinatra. As opposed to Mojolicious, it has some dependencies on external CPAN 
modules, and likely less re-invented and included (but possibly rounder) 
wheels. 

I've written this very stupid app with it:

{{{
#!/usr/bin/perl

use Dancer;
use IO::All;

my ($id, $end_at) = io->file("params.txt")->chomp->getlines();

get '/id' => sub {
    content_type 'text/plain';
    if ($id == $end_at)
    {
        return "-1\n";
    }
    else
    {
        return (($id--)."\n");
    }
};

dance;
}}}

(I'm not sure it will work with all the service models of Dancer, but worked 
with the standalone server which was good enough for me.).

> It looks very cool and reminds me a lot of the Sinatra DSL for Ruby,
> but with support for some HTML5 features out of the box (i.e.
> websockets).  If there's any interest, I could try to give a
> demonstration at a future meeting.
> 
> A couple examples from their website...
> 
> # Simple route with plain text response
> get '/hello' => sub { shift->render(text => 'Hello World!') };
> 
> # WebSocket echo service
> websocket '/echo' => sub {
>     my $self = shift;
>     $self->on_message(
>         sub {
>             my ($self, $message) = @_;
>             $self->send_message("echo: $message");
>         }
>     );
> };
> 

Regards,

	Shlomi Fish

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From enobacon at gmail.com  Mon Jan 10 16:42:42 2011
From: enobacon at gmail.com (Seven till Seven)
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2011 16:42:42 -0800
Subject: [Pdx-pm] January meeting this Wed.
Message-ID: <201101101642.42168.enobacon@gmail.com>

Hi all,

This month's meeting is scheduled for the 12th.  I'm not sure who is 
speaking.  I will probably not be able to be there.

One idea for part of a meeting:  do a quick round of "CPAN module 
roundup" where everyone brings a quick description of a CPAN module you 
have been using recently and an overview of what problem you're using 
it to solve.

--Eric
-- 

        http://pdx.pm.org

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Sad to see that of their top 25 titles, not one of them is Perl :/
 
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From joshua at keroes.com  Thu Jan 20 02:22:08 2011
From: joshua at keroes.com (Joshua Keroes)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 02:22:08 -0800
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Two thoughts:

A book on R in the top 25? Really?!

There are approximately three million O'Reilly titles on Perl. And like one
on Python.
When someone buys a Perl book, they have to choose from the... many ways to
learn about it.
When they want to buy a Python book, there's only one book to read.

Anyway, I'm sure the Perl6 book will produce smashing sales figures when
there's a real official Perl 6. Until then, Perl5 is just a mature language
of which the adherents all own several books already.

*shrug*

-Joshua

PS Yes, I exaggerated the imaginary numbers above. That said, no real
numbers were harmed in the writing of the email.


2011/1/20 Ovid <publiustemp-pdxpm at yahoo.com>

> Sad to see that of their top 25 titles, not one of them is Perl :/
>
> Cheers,
> Ovid
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# from Joshua Keroes
# on Thursday 20 January 2011 02:22:

>There are approximately three million O'Reilly titles on Perl. And
> like one on Python.
>When someone buys a Perl book, they have to choose from the... many
> ways to learn about it.
>When they want to buy a Python book, there's only one book to read.
>
>Anyway, I'm sure the Perl6 book will produce smashing sales figures
> when there's a real official Perl 6. Until then, Perl5 is just a
> mature language of which the adherents all own several books already.
>
>*shrug*

I read "JavaScript: The Good Parts" and thought: with good parts like 
these, who needs bad parts?

You might also have noticed that the modern perl titles are not oreilly.

I often wonder how many people learn Perl from the camel book (and how 
many from MSA.)

--Eric
-- 
Turns out the optimal technique is to put it in reverse and gun it.
--Steven Squyres (on challenges in interplanetary robot navigation)
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From fashizzlepop at gmail.com  Thu Jan 20 20:35:23 2011
From: fashizzlepop at gmail.com (Brady Sullivan)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 20:35:23 -0800
Subject: [Pdx-pm] Fwd: UG News - Best of Ebook Deal of the Day - Save
	60% - Top 25 of 2010
In-Reply-To: <201101202022.35786.enobacon@gmail.com>
References: <1295424449.4501.0.868448@post.oreilly.com>
	<491183.71623.qm@web65704.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
	<AANLkTik++Cp-zOj4vT1dcxxo==r_1TE7Sx-8hHu_K-Vg@mail.gmail.com>
	<201101202022.35786.enobacon@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <D924DA2C-5BCC-4815-A1D3-4F907DFD3E0A@gmail.com>

I used the Lamma book to learn. I thought it was the best computer related book I've ever read. Brilliantly written. Randal and pals do a great job immersing you and keeping you entertained. Personally, one of my favorite quotes: 

"/,{5} chameleon/  By George, that's nice." <-- from the chapters on RegExes. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 20, 2011, at 8:22 PM, Eric Wilhelm <enobacon at gmail.com> wrote:

> # from Joshua Keroes
> # on Thursday 20 January 2011 02:22:
> 
>> There are approximately three million O'Reilly titles on Perl. And
>> like one on Python.
>> When someone buys a Perl book, they have to choose from the... many
>> ways to learn about it.
>> When they want to buy a Python book, there's only one book to read.
>> 
>> Anyway, I'm sure the Perl6 book will produce smashing sales figures
>> when there's a real official Perl 6. Until then, Perl5 is just a
>> mature language of which the adherents all own several books already.
>> 
>> *shrug*
> 
> I read "JavaScript: The Good Parts" and thought: with good parts like 
> these, who needs bad parts?
> 
> You might also have noticed that the modern perl titles are not oreilly.
> 
> I often wonder how many people learn Perl from the camel book (and how 
> many from MSA.)
> 
> --Eric
> -- 
> Turns out the optimal technique is to put it in reverse and gun it.
> --Steven Squyres (on challenges in interplanetary robot navigation)
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From randall at sonofhans.net  Thu Jan 20 20:40:05 2011
From: randall at sonofhans.net (Randall Hansen)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 20:40:05 -0800
Subject: [Pdx-pm] Fwd: UG News - Best of Ebook Deal of the Day - Save
	60% - Top 25 of 2010
In-Reply-To: <D924DA2C-5BCC-4815-A1D3-4F907DFD3E0A@gmail.com>
References: <1295424449.4501.0.868448@post.oreilly.com>
	<491183.71623.qm@web65704.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
	<AANLkTik++Cp-zOj4vT1dcxxo==r_1TE7Sx-8hHu_K-Vg@mail.gmail.com>
	<201101202022.35786.enobacon@gmail.com>
	<D924DA2C-5BCC-4815-A1D3-4F907DFD3E0A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <81123C08-2641-4523-8784-879A7A0DE4FB@sonofhans.net>

On Jan 20, 2011, at 8:35 PM, Brady Sullivan wrote:

> "/,{5} chameleon/  By George, that's nice." <-- from the chapters on RegExes.

Aha!  That must be the Schwartzian Transform I keep hearing about.

r



From fashizzlepop at gmail.com  Thu Jan 20 20:53:27 2011
From: fashizzlepop at gmail.com (Brady Sullivan)
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2011 20:53:27 -0800
Subject: [Pdx-pm] Fwd: UG News - Best of Ebook Deal of the Day - Save
	60% - Top 25 of 2010
In-Reply-To: <81123C08-2641-4523-8784-879A7A0DE4FB@sonofhans.net>
References: <1295424449.4501.0.868448@post.oreilly.com>
	<491183.71623.qm@web65704.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
	<AANLkTik++Cp-zOj4vT1dcxxo==r_1TE7Sx-8hHu_K-Vg@mail.gmail.com>
	<201101202022.35786.enobacon@gmail.com>
	<D924DA2C-5BCC-4815-A1D3-4F907DFD3E0A@gmail.com>
	<81123C08-2641-4523-8784-879A7A0DE4FB@sonofhans.net>
Message-ID: <F06A99F1-1398-4FBE-97CC-6F997A957FE7@gmail.com>

Haha, not quite. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 20, 2011, at 8:40 PM, Randall Hansen <randall at sonofhans.net> wrote:

> On Jan 20, 2011, at 8:35 PM, Brady Sullivan wrote:
> 
>> "/,{5} chameleon/  By George, that's nice." <-- from the chapters on RegExes.
> 
> Aha!  That must be the Schwartzian Transform I keep hearing about.
> 
> r
> 
> 
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From keithl at kl-ic.com  Tue Jan 25 19:23:20 2011
From: keithl at kl-ic.com (Keith Lofstrom)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 19:23:20 -0800
Subject: [Pdx-pm] Moved my websites from kwiki to moinmoin
Message-ID: <20110126032320.GA6499@gate.kl-ic.com>

Some months ago, I kvetched about kwiki.  It was suggested that
Ingy be strapped to a chair with his eyes taped open and forced
to write a converter to a supported wiki.

That seemed cruel, so I spent last weekend converting content
on my wikis (about 400 pages) to MoinMoin, mostly with a text
editor and bleeding fingers and eyeballs.

Kwiki, out of the box, used a GET response for the page name:

http://wiki.keithl.com/index.cgi?PageFoo

Moin, being 20% less evil, uses what sane humans would expect:

http://wiki.keithl.com/PageFoo

So I exercised my laughably non-existent mod_rewrite skills to
add a rule to the VirtualHost in apache httpd.conf:

...
   RewriteEngine on

   RewriteRule   ^/moin_static182/ -  [last]

+  RewriteRule   ^/?index.cgi                                   \
+     /home/www/dirvish/moin/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/%{QUERY_STRING}   \
+        [last,type=application/x-httpd-cgi]

   RewriteRule   ^/?(.*)                                        \
      /home/www/dirvish/moin/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/$1                \
         [last,type=application/x-httpd-cgi]
...

This seems to work.  Suggestions welcome.  Suggestions for 
tormenting Ingy should be sent to less inhibited folk.

Keith

-- 
Keith Lofstrom          keithl at keithl.com         Voice (503)-520-1993
KLIC --- Keith Lofstrom Integrated Circuits --- "Your Ideas in Silicon"
Design Contracting in Bipolar and CMOS - Analog, Digital, and Scan ICs

From randall at sonofhans.net  Tue Jan 25 19:29:38 2011
From: randall at sonofhans.net (Randall Hansen)
Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2011 19:29:38 -0800
Subject: [Pdx-pm] Moved my websites from kwiki to moinmoin
In-Reply-To: <20110126032320.GA6499@gate.kl-ic.com>
References: <20110126032320.GA6499@gate.kl-ic.com>
Message-ID: <7047B45D-3366-4A5C-A1BC-F8D2BE0B0CB0@sonofhans.net>

On Jan 25, 2011, at 7:23 PM, Keith Lofstrom wrote:

> This seems to work.

Very cool.

> Suggestions for tormenting Ingy should be sent to less inhibited folk.

Make him live in the same place for a year :)

r



From perl-pm at joshheumann.com  Wed Jan 26 00:55:07 2011
From: perl-pm at joshheumann.com (Josh Heumann)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 00:55:07 -0800
Subject: [Pdx-pm] Moved my websites from kwiki to moinmoin
In-Reply-To: <7047B45D-3366-4A5C-A1BC-F8D2BE0B0CB0@sonofhans.net>
References: <20110126032320.GA6499@gate.kl-ic.com>
	<7047B45D-3366-4A5C-A1BC-F8D2BE0B0CB0@sonofhans.net>
Message-ID: <20110126085507.GA15975@joshheumann.com>

<quote who='Randall Hansen' when='Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 07:29:38PM -0800'>
> > Suggestions for tormenting Ingy should be sent to less inhibited folk.
> Make him live in the same place for a year :)

I have him in Melbourne right now, but I'm using him for the time being.
My loan is up in a few months.  I'll let you know when I'm returning
him.

Of course, I can pass on messages or generally communicate torture :)

Josh

From nick at ccl4.org  Wed Jan 26 01:47:51 2011
From: nick at ccl4.org (Nicholas Clark)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 09:47:51 +0000
Subject: [Pdx-pm] Moved my websites from kwiki to moinmoin
In-Reply-To: <20110126085507.GA15975@joshheumann.com>
References: <20110126032320.GA6499@gate.kl-ic.com>
	<7047B45D-3366-4A5C-A1BC-F8D2BE0B0CB0@sonofhans.net>
	<20110126085507.GA15975@joshheumann.com>
Message-ID: <20110126094750.GG24189@plum.flirble.org>

On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 12:55:07AM -0800, Josh Heumann wrote:
> <quote who='Randall Hansen' when='Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 07:29:38PM -0800'>
> > > Suggestions for tormenting Ingy should be sent to less inhibited folk.
> > Make him live in the same place for a year :)
> 
> I have him in Melbourne right now, but I'm using him for the time being.
> My loan is up in a few months.  I'll let you know when I'm returning
> him.
> 
> Of course, I can pass on messages or generally communicate torture :)

How about "the only beer he's allowed to drink out there is American beer.
Doesn't matter which, but only whatever he can find locally, that is
American, and describes itself as beer"

:-)

Nicholas Clark

From perl-pm at joshheumann.com  Wed Jan 26 14:09:23 2011
From: perl-pm at joshheumann.com (Josh Heumann)
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:09:23 -0800
Subject: [Pdx-pm] Moved my websites from kwiki to moinmoin
In-Reply-To: <20110126094750.GG24189@plum.flirble.org>
References: <20110126032320.GA6499@gate.kl-ic.com>
	<7047B45D-3366-4A5C-A1BC-F8D2BE0B0CB0@sonofhans.net>
	<20110126085507.GA15975@joshheumann.com>
	<20110126094750.GG24189@plum.flirble.org>
Message-ID: <20110126220923.GA19930@joshheumann.com>

<quote who='Nicholas Clark' when='Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 09:47:51AM +0000'>
> How about "the only beer he's allowed to drink out there is American beer.
> Doesn't matter which, but only whatever he can find locally, that is
> American, and describes itself as beer"

That may go beyond torture.  Isn't it enough that his sense of beer
taste (it's a separate sense, no doubt) has suffered so much just by
being out of the Pacific NW?

J

From keithl at kl-ic.com  Fri Jan 28 11:34:51 2011
From: keithl at kl-ic.com (Keith Lofstrom)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 11:34:51 -0800
Subject: [Pdx-pm] Creole markup translator for Kwiki?
Message-ID: <20110128193451.GD15750@gate.kl-ic.com>

After translating a heap-o-markup with vi, stone knives,
and bear skins, I just learned about Creole: 
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creole_%28markup%29

Creole is a common wiki markup interchange format used by
Moin, PmWiki (thanks Pat), and a dozen other wikis.  Perhaps
someone (you, that is, not me) would like to write a Kwiki to
Creole translator, helping move the pdx-pm wiki to supported
wiki software.  While flying to Australia and torturing Ingy
to do it is a charming idea, it might be more cost effective
to save the jet fuel and buy Programming Fuel (Beer) instead.
I will donate the first six-pack or pitcher.
   
Keith

-- 
Keith Lofstrom          keithl at keithl.com         Voice (503)-520-1993
KLIC --- Keith Lofstrom Integrated Circuits --- "Your Ideas in Silicon"
Design Contracting in Bipolar and CMOS - Analog, Digital, and Scan ICs

From enobacon at gmail.com  Fri Jan 28 14:48:46 2011
From: enobacon at gmail.com (Eric Wilhelm)
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 14:48:46 -0800
Subject: [Pdx-pm] February 9th meeting - Worst Useful Hack
Message-ID: <201101281448.46992.enobacon@gmail.com>

Hi all,

We're just under two weeks from the February meeting.

This month's meeting will be a round of lightning talks:

  Worst Useful Hack.


Your talk should be 5 minutes long.  Slides, visual aids, and costumes 
are optional.

Please e-mail me (off-list) your talk title and any preference about 
going first / last / after Jeff.

Thanks,
Eric
-- 
Don't worry about what anybody else is going to do. The best way to
predict the future is to invent it.
--Alan Kay
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