From enobacon at gmail.com Wed Sep 1 16:26:43 2010 From: enobacon at gmail.com (Seven till Seven) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2010 16:26:43 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] September Meeting next week Message-ID: <201009011626.43608.enobacon@gmail.com> Wed. September 8th, 6:53pm at FreeGeek -- 1731 SE 10th Ave. Modern Perl / Test::Builder2 with chromatic and Michael Schwern This meeting will be two shorter presentations back-to-back. The Modern Perl talk is broadly targetted at beginners and everyday general usage concepts while the Test::Builder 2 talk will delve much deeper into particular details of Perl's testing system. chromatic on Modern Perl -------------------------- http://modernperlbooks.com Perl masters talk about strange subjects such as whipupitude, manipulexity, context, lexicals, and linguistic principles. It may seem that you must be a wizard to apply these notions to your code and dexterously wield Perl's essential strengths. In truth, these ideas and idioms are deceptively simple: you use them every day when you read or write plain English. Demystifying the linguistic concepts in Perl opens up the doors of Perl mastery. Come learn the philosophy behind Perl's design in order to understand Perl and how to use its unique isms to improve your code. Schwern on Test::Builder2 -------------------------- http://github.com/schwern/test-more/blob/Test-Builder2/ lib/Test/Builder2/Design.pod Test::Builder is what most Test modules are written with these days. It lets them quietly coordinate with each other and frees the authors from having to worry about the details. It was written in 2001 and in that decade there's been an explosion of testing modules. A decade later, Test::Builder is starting to show its age and limitations. Its assumptions and biases are restraining the Perl testing community. Perl has moved on, too. When Test::Builder was written, testing was still a "new" thing. Now it's a given. We have a real object system now and a sophisticated community to take advantage. Enter Test::Builder2. A total rewrite of Test::Builder to remove its biases and let test authors do whatever they can dream up while still being the solid iron core of Perl testing and remaining compatible with Test::Builder. It takes advantage of things like Mouse (that's a small Moose), method wrappers and roles. Counter-intuitively, it does less than Test::Builder does while providing more opportunities. Schwern has a grant for Test::Builder2 from the Perl Foundation and if he doesn't release something by October they'll break his legs. So he's hoping to generate some contributors by showing off the design and code! As always, the meeting will be followed by social hour at the Lucky Lab. -- http://pdx.pm.org From enobacon at gmail.com Wed Sep 8 09:21:49 2010 From: enobacon at gmail.com (Seven till Seven) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:21:49 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Meeting tonight: Modern Perl / Test::Builder 2 Message-ID: <201009080921.49780.enobacon@gmail.com> Wed. September 8th, 6:53pm at FreeGeek -- 1731 SE 10th Ave. Modern Perl / Test::Builder2 with chromatic and Michael Schwern This meeting will be two shorter presentations back-to-back. The Modern Perl talk is broadly targetted at beginners and everyday general usage concepts while the Test::Builder 2 talk will delve much deeper into particular details of Perl's testing system. chromatic on Modern Perl -------------------------- http://modernperlbooks.com Perl masters talk about strange subjects such as whipupitude, manipulexity, context, lexicals, and linguistic principles. It may seem that you must be a wizard to apply these notions to your code and dexterously wield Perl's essential strengths. In truth, these ideas and idioms are deceptively simple: you use them every day when you read or write plain English. Demystifying the linguistic concepts in Perl opens up the doors of Perl mastery. Come learn the philosophy behind Perl's design in order to understand Perl and how to use its unique isms to improve your code. Schwern on Test::Builder2 -------------------------- http://github.com/schwern/test-more/blob/Test-Builder2/ lib/Test/Builder2/Design.pod Test::Builder is what most Test modules are written with these days. It lets them quietly coordinate with each other and frees the authors from having to worry about the details. It was written in 2001 and in that decade there's been an explosion of testing modules. A decade later, Test::Builder is starting to show its age and limitations. Its assumptions and biases are restraining the Perl testing community. Perl has moved on, too. When Test::Builder was written, testing was still a "new" thing. Now it's a given. We have a real object system now and a sophisticated community to take advantage. Enter Test::Builder2. A total rewrite of Test::Builder to remove its biases and let test authors do whatever they can dream up while still being the solid iron core of Perl testing and remaining compatible with Test::Builder. It takes advantage of things like Mouse (that's a small Moose), method wrappers and roles. Counter-intuitively, it does less than Test::Builder does while providing more opportunities. Schwern has a grant for Test::Builder2 from the Perl Foundation and if he doesn't release something by October they'll break his legs. So he's hoping to generate some contributors by showing off the design and code! As always, the meeting will be followed by social hour at the Lucky Lab. -- http://pdx.pm.org From merlyn at stonehenge.com Wed Sep 8 12:39:15 2010 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: Wed, 08 Sep 2010 12:39:15 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Meeting tonight: Modern Perl / Test::Builder 2 In-Reply-To: <201009080921.49780.enobacon@gmail.com> (Seven till Seven's message of "Wed, 8 Sep 2010 09:21:49 -0700") References: <201009080921.49780.enobacon@gmail.com> Message-ID: <86aanst47w.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> With the permission of the speakers, I'll be there livecasting this too. Very likely at http://ustre.am/p0/, but watch http://twitter.com/merlyn in case it ends up somewhere else. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From jaleto at gmail.com Wed Sep 8 17:52:05 2010 From: jaleto at gmail.com (Jonathan Leto) Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 17:52:05 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Final Summary for GSoC 2010 Message-ID: Howdy, I recently wrote a blog post summarizing what happened during Google Summer of Code 2010: http://leto.net/dukeleto.pl/2010/09/google-summer-of-code-2010-final-summary.html Read and enjoy. Duke -- Jonathan "Duke" Leto jonathan at leto.net http://leto.net From schwern at pobox.com Thu Sep 9 01:40:47 2010 From: schwern at pobox.com (Michael G Schwern) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 01:40:47 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Test::Builder2 links from tonight Message-ID: <4C889D8F.6090104@pobox.com> The diagrams I showed about Test::Builder vs Test::Builder2, plus explanations, can be seen here: http://use.perl.org/~schwern/journal/40527 And also here, with a lot more information about the TB2 design. http://github.com/schwern/test-more/blob/Test-Builder2/lib/Test/Builder2/Design.pod The examples I showed are now in the repository in examples/TB2/ in the Test-Builder2 branch. http://github.com/schwern/test-more/tree/Test-Builder2/examples/TB2/lib/TB2/ There's the Test::More mailing list where TB2 is discussed: http://groups.google.com/group/test-more-users And finally, the TB2 issues list can be had here: http://github.com/schwern/test-more/issues/labels/Test-Builder2 There's a lot of low hanging fruit. The code is, imo, pretty well factored. Patches welcome. I'll need it if I'm going to push out a release before October. -- Robrt: People can't win Schwern: No, but they can riot after the game. From merlyn at stonehenge.com Thu Sep 9 07:59:19 2010 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 07:59:19 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Test::Builder2 links from tonight In-Reply-To: <4C889D8F.6090104@pobox.com> (Michael G. Schwern's message of "Thu, 09 Sep 2010 01:40:47 -0700") References: <4C889D8F.6090104@pobox.com> Message-ID: <86vd6fotdk.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Michael" == Michael G Schwern writes: Michael> The diagrams I showed about Test::Builder vs Test::Builder2, plus Michael> explanations, can be seen here: Michael> http://use.perl.org/~schwern/journal/40527 The video for this talk is at http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/9444310 The video for Chromatic's talk is at http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/9443645 -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From ben.hengst at gmail.com Thu Sep 9 10:16:40 2010 From: ben.hengst at gmail.com (benh) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 10:16:40 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Final Summary for GSoC 2010 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Thanks again Sri Leto for stepping up to the plate and heading this all up. The world is a much better place because of your efforts. On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 17:52, Jonathan Leto wrote: > Howdy, > > I recently wrote a blog post summarizing what happened during Google > Summer of Code 2010: > > http://leto.net/dukeleto.pl/2010/09/google-summer-of-code-2010-final-summary.html > > Read and enjoy. > > Duke > > -- > Jonathan "Duke" Leto > jonathan at leto.net > http://leto.net > _______________________________________________ > Pdx-pm-list mailing list > Pdx-pm-list at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pdx-pm-list > -- benh~ http://three.sentenc.es/ From ben.hengst at gmail.com Thu Sep 9 13:13:58 2010 From: ben.hengst at gmail.com (benh) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 13:13:58 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Test::Builder2 links from tonight In-Reply-To: <86vd6fotdk.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> References: <4C889D8F.6090104@pobox.com> <86vd6fotdk.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: Chromatic are your slides up anywhere? On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 07:59, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Michael" == Michael G Schwern writes: > > Michael> The diagrams I showed about Test::Builder vs Test::Builder2, plus > Michael> explanations, can be seen here: > Michael> http://use.perl.org/~schwern/journal/40527 > > The video for this talk is at http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/9444310 > > The video for Chromatic's talk is at > http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/9443645 > > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 > > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion > _______________________________________________ > Pdx-pm-list mailing list > Pdx-pm-list at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pdx-pm-list > -- benh~ http://three.sentenc.es/ From chromatic at wgz.org Thu Sep 9 16:20:20 2010 From: chromatic at wgz.org (chromatic) Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 16:20:20 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Test::Builder2 links from tonight In-Reply-To: References: <4C889D8F.6090104@pobox.com> <86vd6fotdk.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <201009091620.20757.chromatic@wgz.org> On Thursday 09 September 2010 at 13:13, benh wrote: > chromatic are your slides up anywhere? They are not, mostly because I'm not sure they're valuable without the narration. My book *is* available, and I welcome comments for another week before it goes to print: http://www.modernperlbooks.com/drafts/modern_perl/ -- c From ben.hengst at gmail.com Fri Sep 10 16:14:30 2010 From: ben.hengst at gmail.com (benh) Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:14:30 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Fwd: [employee.industrial] [employee.company] Open Position - Technology Director - Industrial In-Reply-To: <4C8ABB27.8020209@powells.com> References: <4C8ABB27.8020209@powells.com> Message-ID: Figured I would share if any one is interested or knows any one who would be. There's a bit of drama associated to this position so be aware (or ask questions if you've got em). Other then that it reads fairly well and you could be my new boss (in a round about way)! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: ben hengst Date: Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 16:11 Subject: Fwd: [employee.industrial] [employee.company] Open Position - Technology Director - Industrial To: benh -------- Original Message -------- Subject: ? ? ? ?[employee.industrial] [employee.company] Open Position - Technology Director - Industrial Date: ? Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:07:11 -0700 From: ? Adalia Corriveau To: ? ? Company Wide Employee Distribution List ? We currently have a position open for a Technology Director for Industrial ? The job description is attached ? This position is open internally and externally ? This is a non-bargaining unit position ? The closing date for this posting is September 20^th ? If you are interested in applying for this position, please send your resume to adalia.corriveau at powells.com ? External Ad: Powell?s Books is seeking a Technology Director to direct a successful technology transition at Powells.com. We are evaluating our current technology, with the goal of finding a new solution for our website which will position Powells.com for growth and sustainability. The successful candidate for this position will have a thorough understanding of internet technology, significant management experience, and a track record in managing complex projects and the transitions associated with them. The projected timeframe for our transition is two years. This position will be re-evaluated as part of project closure. We offer a full benefits package (health care, childcare assistance, education assistance, 401k, generous earned leave, etc.), and excellent employee discounts. Please visit the employment section of our website for the full job description and requirements: http://www.powells.com/cgi-bin/job.pl If you are interested in applying, please submit a resume and cover letter c/o Adalia Corriveau via mail (Powell?s Books, 7 NW 9^th Ave., Portland, OR 97209), via FAX (503-802-0548) or via email (adalia.corriveau at powells.com ). Applications must be received by September 20^th . Adalia M. Corriveau Powell's Books Hiring and Development Specialist Extension: 3364 -- benh~ http://three.sentenc.es/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: technology_director.doc Type: application/msword Size: 52224 bytes Desc: not available URL: From merlyn at stonehenge.com Tue Sep 14 17:45:46 2010 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:45:46 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Anyone seen Michael Schwern in the past five days? Message-ID: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Is he in the hospital? Sick? Off the grid? Or just irresponsible? Someone might want to nudge him to reply to some timely email, or face consequences. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From erik at hollensbe.org Tue Sep 14 17:51:10 2010 From: erik at hollensbe.org (Erik Hollensbe) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 20:51:10 -0400 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Anyone seen Michael Schwern in the past five days? In-Reply-To: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> References: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <3546D585-A519-4135-9FEA-A5D56A1C812E@hollensbe.org> I think he just found a copy of Borderlands. -Erik On Sep 14, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > Is he in the hospital? > Sick? > Off the grid? > > Or just irresponsible? > > Someone might want to nudge him to reply to some timely email, or face > consequences. > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 > > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion > _______________________________________________ > Pdx-pm-list mailing list > Pdx-pm-list at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pdx-pm-list From joshua at keroes.com Tue Sep 14 17:52:40 2010 From: joshua at keroes.com (Joshua Keroes) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2010 17:52:40 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Anyone seen Michael Schwern in the past five days? In-Reply-To: <3546D585-A519-4135-9FEA-A5D56A1C812E@hollensbe.org> References: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <3546D585-A519-4135-9FEA-A5D56A1C812E@hollensbe.org> Message-ID: I'd imagine he's at his usual street corner, unless some uppity young thang snagged his turf. On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Erik Hollensbe wrote: > I think he just found a copy of Borderlands. > > -Erik > > On Sep 14, 2010, at 8:45 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > > > > Is he in the hospital? > > Sick? > > Off the grid? > > > > Or just irresponsible? > > > > Someone might want to nudge him to reply to some timely email, or face > > consequences. > > > > -- > > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 > 0095 > > > > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside > discussion > > _______________________________________________ > > Pdx-pm-list mailing list > > Pdx-pm-list at pm.org > > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pdx-pm-list > > _______________________________________________ > Pdx-pm-list mailing list > Pdx-pm-list at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pdx-pm-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From publiustemp-pdxpm at yahoo.com Wed Sep 15 04:17:02 2010 From: publiustemp-pdxpm at yahoo.com (Ovid) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 04:17:02 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Pdx-pm] Anyone seen Michael Schwern in the past five days? In-Reply-To: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> References: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <803031.44133.qm@web65716.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> ----- Original Message ---- > From: Randal L. Schwartz > > Is he in the hospital? > Sick? > Off the grid? > > Or just irresponsible? > > Someone might want to nudge him to reply to some timely email, or face > consequences. He's active on github, working on Test::Builder 2: http://github.com/schwern Cheers, Ovid -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog - http://blogs.perl.org/users/ovid/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl Official Perl 6 Wiki - http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl6 From ingy at ingy.net Wed Sep 15 06:35:51 2010 From: ingy at ingy.net (Ingy dot Net) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 06:35:51 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Anyone seen Michael Schwern in the past five days? In-Reply-To: <803031.44133.qm@web65716.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> References: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <803031.44133.qm@web65716.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: What are the consequences? On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Ovid wrote: > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Randal L. Schwartz > > > > Is he in the hospital? > > Sick? > > Off the grid? > > > > Or just irresponsible? > > > > Someone might want to nudge him to reply to some timely email, or face > > consequences. > > > He's active on github, working on Test::Builder 2: > http://github.com/schwern > > Cheers, > Ovid > -- > Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ > Tech blog - http://blogs.perl.org/users/ovid/ > Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl > Official Perl 6 Wiki - http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl6 > > > _______________________________________________ > Pdx-pm-list mailing list > Pdx-pm-list at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pdx-pm-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ben.hengst at gmail.com Wed Sep 15 07:50:20 2010 From: ben.hengst at gmail.com (benh) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 07:50:20 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Anyone seen Michael Schwern in the past five days? In-Reply-To: References: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <803031.44133.qm@web65716.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Last time I made eye contact with him was at the hack-a-thon last week. Though he and I were talking on IM on monday about TB2 stuff. 2010/9/15 Ingy dot Net : > What are the consequences? > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Ovid wrote: >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> > From: Randal L. Schwartz >> > >> > Is he in the hospital? >> > Sick? >> > Off the grid? >> > >> > Or just ?irresponsible? >> > >> > Someone might want to nudge him to reply to some timely ?email, or face >> > consequences. >> >> >> He's active on github, working on Test::Builder 2: >> http://github.com/schwern >> >> Cheers, >> Ovid >> -- >> Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ >> Tech blog - http://blogs.perl.org/users/ovid/ >> Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl >> Official Perl 6 Wiki - http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl6 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pdx-pm-list mailing list >> Pdx-pm-list at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pdx-pm-list > > > _______________________________________________ > Pdx-pm-list mailing list > Pdx-pm-list at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pdx-pm-list > -- benh~ http://three.sentenc.es/ From joshua at keroes.com Wed Sep 15 09:43:18 2010 From: joshua at keroes.com (Joshua Keroes) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:43:18 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Anyone seen Michael Schwern in the past five days? In-Reply-To: References: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <803031.44133.qm@web65716.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Consequences or sexy consequences? 2010/9/15 Ingy dot Net > What are the consequences? > > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Ovid wrote: > >> ----- Original Message ---- >> > From: Randal L. Schwartz >> > >> > Is he in the hospital? >> > Sick? >> > Off the grid? >> > >> > Or just irresponsible? >> > >> > Someone might want to nudge him to reply to some timely email, or face >> > consequences. >> >> >> He's active on github, working on Test::Builder 2: >> http://github.com/schwern >> >> Cheers, >> Ovid >> -- >> Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ >> Tech blog - http://blogs.perl.org/users/ovid/ >> Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl >> Official Perl 6 Wiki - http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl6 >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pdx-pm-list mailing list >> Pdx-pm-list at pm.org >> http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pdx-pm-list >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pdx-pm-list mailing list > Pdx-pm-list at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pdx-pm-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andy at petdance.com Wed Sep 15 09:51:16 2010 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 11:51:16 -0500 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Anyone seen Michael Schwern in the past five days? In-Reply-To: References: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <803031.44133.qm@web65716.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <98D292C0-6953-4B03-A7B9-0B9184800440@petdance.com> On Sep 15, 2010, at 11:43 AM, Joshua Keroes wrote: > Consequences or sexy consequences? Sexy, sexy consequences. Randal can be a stern master, if you know what I mean. -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.theworkinggeek.com => AIM:petdance From michael at jamhome.us Wed Sep 15 09:54:34 2010 From: michael at jamhome.us (Michael) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:54:34 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Pdx-pm] Anyone seen Michael Schwern in the past five days? In-Reply-To: <98D292C0-6953-4B03-A7B9-0B9184800440@petdance.com> References: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <803031.44133.qm@web65716.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <98D292C0-6953-4B03-A7B9-0B9184800440@petdance.com> Message-ID: <38167.170.135.112.14.1284569674.squirrel@mail.jamhome.us> Andy Lester wrote: > > On Sep 15, 2010, at 11:43 AM, Joshua Keroes wrote: > >> Consequences or sexy consequences? > > Sexy, sexy consequences. Randal can be a stern master, if you know what I > mean. This is way beyond anything I ever learned with Waldo or Carmen Sandiego. -- Michael Rasmussen http://www.jamhome.us/ Be Appropriate && Follow Your Curiosity -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jeff at vpservices.com Wed Sep 15 09:59:10 2010 From: jeff at vpservices.com (Jeff Zucker) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 09:59:10 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Anyone seen Michael Schwern in the past five days? In-Reply-To: <98D292C0-6953-4B03-A7B9-0B9184800440@petdance.com> References: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <803031.44133.qm@web65716.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <98D292C0-6953-4B03-A7B9-0B9184800440@petdance.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 9:51 AM, Andy Lester wrote: > > On Sep 15, 2010, at 11:43 AM, Joshua Keroes wrote: > > > Consequences or sexy consequences? > > Sexy, sexy consequences. Randal can be a stern master, if you know what I > mean. > > Ah, so *that's* why he always insists on putting "use strict" at the top. -- Jeff Zucker -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From andy at petdance.com Wed Sep 15 10:04:28 2010 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:04:28 -0500 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Anyone seen Michael Schwern in the past five days? In-Reply-To: References: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <803031.44133.qm@web65716.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> <98D292C0-6953-4B03-A7B9-0B9184800440@petdance.com> Message-ID: <05D9632C-0EF3-42A0-970C-FDFBA35EB75E@petdance.com> On Sep 15, 2010, at 11:59 AM, Jeff Zucker wrote: > Sexy, sexy consequences. Randal can be a stern master, if you know what I mean. > > > Ah, so *that's* why he always insists on putting "use strict" at the top. See also slide 17 of http://www.slideshare.net/zrusilla/pulp-perl -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.theworkinggeek.com => AIM:petdance From teknotus at gmail.com Wed Sep 15 11:57:29 2010 From: teknotus at gmail.com (Daniel Johnson) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 11:57:29 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Anyone seen Michael Schwern in the past five days? In-Reply-To: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> References: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: I saw him riding his bike on Sunday, and there is a report of him going to REI on Tuesday. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From hdp.perl.pm.pdx at weftsoar.net Wed Sep 15 12:04:41 2010 From: hdp.perl.pm.pdx at weftsoar.net (Hans Dieter Pearcey) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 15:04:41 -0400 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Anyone seen Michael Schwern in the past five days? In-Reply-To: References: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <20100915190440.GA31539@glaive.weftsoar.net> On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 11:57:29 -0700, Daniel Johnson wrote: > I saw him riding his bike on Sunday, and there is a report of him going to > REI on Tuesday. On Wednesday my cousin (the one who's a mime, not the one who's a cowboy) saw Schwern paddling a canoe under the Steel Bridge, and tomorrow he and I are planning on hopping a freight train to Helena. hdp. From gorthx at gmail.com Wed Sep 15 12:09:38 2010 From: gorthx at gmail.com (gabrielle) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:09:38 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Anyone seen Michael Schwern in the past five days? In-Reply-To: <20100915190440.GA31539@glaive.weftsoar.net> References: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100915190440.GA31539@glaive.weftsoar.net> Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Hans Dieter Pearcey wrote: > On Wednesday my cousin (the one who's a mime, not the one who's a cowboy) saw > Schwern paddling a canoe under the Steel Bridge, and tomorrow he and I are > planning on hopping a freight train to Helena. What? That schmuck. We were supposed to go to Iceland. gabrielle From keithl at kl-ic.com Wed Sep 15 12:22:23 2010 From: keithl at kl-ic.com (Keith Lofstrom) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:22:23 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Anyone seen Michael Schwern in the past five days? In-Reply-To: References: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100915190440.GA31539@glaive.weftsoar.net> Message-ID: <20100915192223.GA19047@gate.kl-ic.com> > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Hans Dieter Pearcey > wrote: > > On Wednesday my cousin (the one who's a mime, not the one who's a cowboy) saw > > Schwern paddling a canoe under the Steel Bridge, and tomorrow he and I are > > planning on hopping a freight train to Helena. On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:09:38PM -0700, gabrielle wrote: > What? That schmuck. We were supposed to go to Iceland. You didn't hear? Ted Turner bought Iceland, and is downloading it to his Montana ranch. Schwern is doing the install. Keith -- Keith Lofstrom keithl at keithl.com Voice (503)-520-1993 KLIC --- Keith Lofstrom Integrated Circuits --- "Your Ideas in Silicon" Design Contracting in Bipolar and CMOS - Analog, Digital, and Scan ICs From exodist7 at gmail.com Wed Sep 15 12:36:21 2010 From: exodist7 at gmail.com (Chad Granum) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 12:36:21 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Anyone seen Michael Schwern in the past five days? In-Reply-To: <20100915192223.GA19047@gate.kl-ic.com> References: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100915190440.GA31539@glaive.weftsoar.net> <20100915192223.GA19047@gate.kl-ic.com> Message-ID: I heard he was drowning his emotions in a food cart binge mumbling something about loosing the game in-between singing verses of Hubba Hubba Zoot Zoot. -Chad From ben.hengst at gmail.com Wed Sep 15 13:19:48 2010 From: ben.hengst at gmail.com (benh) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 13:19:48 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Anyone seen Michael Schwern in the past five days? In-Reply-To: References: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100915190440.GA31539@glaive.weftsoar.net> <20100915192223.GA19047@gate.kl-ic.com> Message-ID: best thread ever. On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:36, Chad Granum wrote: > I heard he was drowning his emotions in a food cart binge mumbling > something about loosing the game in-between singing verses of Hubba > Hubba Zoot Zoot. > > -Chad > _______________________________________________ > Pdx-pm-list mailing list > Pdx-pm-list at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pdx-pm-list > -- benh~ http://three.sentenc.es/ From enobacon at gmail.com Wed Sep 15 13:25:39 2010 From: enobacon at gmail.com (Eric Wilhelm) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 13:25:39 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Anyone seen Michael Schwern in the past five days? In-Reply-To: References: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <201009151325.39442.enobacon@gmail.com> # from benh # on Wednesday 15 September 2010 13:19: >best thread ever. Which is why you're not going to hear from Schwern this way, because if he says anything, the thread will end and he doesn't want to spoil it. Anyway, last I saw him, the TPF goons were pouring concrete around him, leaving only one hole each for air, tea, and power. No ethernet, because he's using git. --Eric -- "It ain't those parts of the Bible that I can't understand that bother me, it's the parts that I do understand." --Mark Twain --------------------------------------------------- http://scratchcomputing.com --------------------------------------------------- From jaleto at gmail.com Wed Sep 15 13:38:52 2010 From: jaleto at gmail.com (Jonathan Leto) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 13:38:52 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Anyone seen Michael Schwern in the past five days? In-Reply-To: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> References: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: Howdy, I think I saw him working 82nd last night. He was wearing a dress and a wig, but I knew it was him because of those water socks he always wears. Duke On Tue, Sep 14, 2010 at 5:45 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > > Is he in the hospital? > Sick? > Off the grid? > > Or just irresponsible? > > Someone might want to nudge him to reply to some timely email, or face > consequences. > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 > > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion > _______________________________________________ > Pdx-pm-list mailing list > Pdx-pm-list at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pdx-pm-list > -- Jonathan "Duke" Leto jonathan at leto.net http://leto.net From selenamarie at gmail.com Wed Sep 15 14:34:34 2010 From: selenamarie at gmail.com (Selena Deckelmann) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 14:34:34 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Anyone seen Michael Schwern in the past five days? In-Reply-To: <20100915192223.GA19047@gate.kl-ic.com> References: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100915190440.GA31539@glaive.weftsoar.net> <20100915192223.GA19047@gate.kl-ic.com> Message-ID: On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:22 PM, Keith Lofstrom wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:04 PM, Hans Dieter Pearcey >> wrote: >> > On Wednesday my cousin (the one who's a mime, not the one who's a cowboy) saw >> > Schwern paddling a canoe under the Steel Bridge, and tomorrow he and I are >> > planning on hopping a freight train to Helena. > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 12:09:38PM -0700, gabrielle wrote: >> What? ?That schmuck. ?We were supposed to go to Iceland. > > You didn't hear? ?Ted Turner bought Iceland, and is downloading > it to his Montana ranch. ?Schwern is doing the install. I don't know why you all have to keep dragging Montana into this. He's definitely headed to Idaho. Potatoes, people. -selena -- http://chesnok.com/daily - me From hdp.perl.pm.pdx at weftsoar.net Wed Sep 15 15:58:53 2010 From: hdp.perl.pm.pdx at weftsoar.net (Hans Dieter Pearcey) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 18:58:53 -0400 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Anyone seen Michael Schwern in the past five days? In-Reply-To: References: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100915190440.GA31539@glaive.weftsoar.net> <20100915192223.GA19047@gate.kl-ic.com> Message-ID: <20100915225853.GA26180@glaive.weftsoar.net> On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 14:34:34 -0700, Selena Deckelmann wrote: > He's definitely headed to Idaho. Potatoes, people. He likes them french fried potaters, mmm hmm. hdp. From perl-pm at joshheumann.com Wed Sep 15 16:11:09 2010 From: perl-pm at joshheumann.com (Josh Heumann) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:11:09 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Anyone seen Michael Schwern in the past five days? In-Reply-To: References: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <20100915231109.GB15820@joshheumann.com> Don't listen to these idiots, Randal. He's with me in Australia. Yesterday, we went on a kangaroo ride tour through Melbourne, and then ate koala steaks while throwing shrimps on barbecues with the Queen. J From fashizzlepop at gmail.com Wed Sep 15 16:37:44 2010 From: fashizzlepop at gmail.com (Brady Sullivan) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:37:44 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Anyone seen Michael Schwern in the past five days? In-Reply-To: <20100915231109.GB15820@joshheumann.com> References: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100915231109.GB15820@joshheumann.com> Message-ID: <09C853A8-EDA6-46AC-A043-ACA20E6C7B19@gmail.com> Oh? How's the weather this time of year? Did you strip down to your skivvies and go swimming with crocs? Pics or it never happened. -Brady Sent from my iPhone On Sep 15, 2010, at 4:11 PM, Josh Heumann wrote: > Don't listen to these idiots, Randal. He's with me in Australia. > Yesterday, we went on a kangaroo ride tour through Melbourne, and then > ate koala steaks while throwing shrimps on barbecues with the Queen. > > J > _______________________________________________ > Pdx-pm-list mailing list > Pdx-pm-list at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pdx-pm-list From perl-pm at joshheumann.com Wed Sep 15 16:28:33 2010 From: perl-pm at joshheumann.com (Josh Heumann) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 16:28:33 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Anyone seen Michael Schwern in the past five days? In-Reply-To: <09C853A8-EDA6-46AC-A043-ACA20E6C7B19@gmail.com> References: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100915231109.GB15820@joshheumann.com> <09C853A8-EDA6-46AC-A043-ACA20E6C7B19@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20100915232833.GC15820@joshheumann.com> > Oh? How's the weather this time of year? Did you strip down to your > skivvies and go swimming with crocs? > > Pics or it never happened. Kangaroos go too fast to take any serious photos, and it may be winter here, but that's really not that cold for a Portland Boy like Schwern. And I can't vouch for any presence of skivvies. J From teknotus at gmail.com Wed Sep 15 17:18:41 2010 From: teknotus at gmail.com (Daniel Johnson) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:18:41 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Anyone seen Michael Schwern in the past five days? In-Reply-To: <09C853A8-EDA6-46AC-A043-ACA20E6C7B19@gmail.com> References: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100915231109.GB15820@joshheumann.com> <09C853A8-EDA6-46AC-A043-ACA20E6C7B19@gmail.com> Message-ID: > Oh? How's the weather this time of year? Did you strip down to your skivvies and go swimming > with crocs? I heard that being baptized by croc infested waters is the way to salvation at the UNIX epoch. From erik at hollensbe.org Wed Sep 15 18:35:49 2010 From: erik at hollensbe.org (Erik Hollensbe) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 21:35:49 -0400 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Anyone seen Michael Schwern in the past five days? In-Reply-To: <20100915231109.GB15820@joshheumann.com> References: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100915231109.GB15820@joshheumann.com> Message-ID: <1B7F6586-918E-418A-8B23-8E7B19F9CEA8@hollensbe.org> I think you left out the part where you prayed 5 times a day in the direction of steve irwin's grave. -Erik On Sep 15, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Josh Heumann wrote: > Don't listen to these idiots, Randal. He's with me in Australia. > Yesterday, we went on a kangaroo ride tour through Melbourne, and then > ate koala steaks while throwing shrimps on barbecues with the Queen. > > J > _______________________________________________ > Pdx-pm-list mailing list > Pdx-pm-list at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pdx-pm-list From ingy at ingy.net Wed Sep 15 18:36:33 2010 From: ingy at ingy.net (Ingy dot Net) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 18:36:33 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Anyone seen Michael Schwern in the past five days? In-Reply-To: References: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100915231109.GB15820@joshheumann.com> <09C853A8-EDA6-46AC-A043-ACA20E6C7B19@gmail.com> Message-ID: 18:34 < ingy> seen schwern 18:34 < purl> schwern was last seen on #pdx.pm 2 days, 3 hours, 6 minutes and 44 seconds ago, saying: Make the software easy and the hardware possible. Don't tell merlyn!!! [Sep 13 22:27:39 2010] On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Daniel Johnson wrote: > > Oh? How's the weather this time of year? Did you strip down to your > skivvies and go swimming > > with crocs? > > I heard that being baptized by croc infested waters is the way to > salvation at the UNIX epoch. > _______________________________________________ > Pdx-pm-list mailing list > Pdx-pm-list at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pdx-pm-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From merlyn at stonehenge.com Wed Sep 15 18:45:44 2010 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 18:45:44 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Anyone seen Michael Schwern in the past five days? In-Reply-To: (Ingy dot Net's message of "Wed, 15 Sep 2010 18:36:33 -0700") References: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100915231109.GB15820@joshheumann.com> <09C853A8-EDA6-46AC-A043-ACA20E6C7B19@gmail.com> Message-ID: <86wrqmtq9j.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Ingy" == Ingy dot Net writes: Ingy> 18:34 < ingy> seen schwern Ingy> 18:34 < purl> schwern was last seen on #pdx.pm 2 days, 3 hours, 6 minutes Ingy> and 44 seconds ago, saying: Make the software easy and the hardware Ingy> possible. Don't tell merlyn!!! [Sep 13 22:27:39 2010] Heh. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From enobacon at gmail.com Thu Sep 16 18:59:24 2010 From: enobacon at gmail.com (The Dread Parrot) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:59:24 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Fwd: Free Geek 10th anniversary Message-ID: <201009161859.24256.enobacon@gmail.com> ---------- Forwarded Message: ---------- Subject: message to perlmongers list? Date: Thursday 16 September 2010 18:19 From: Alison Briggs Hello Perlmongers! This is Ali Briggs over at Free Geek. We're celebrating our 10th anniversary this year and I want to invite every member of the Portland Perlmongers group, as all of you are a part of the Free Geek community. Would you please send this email out to your list? And feel free to send it anywhere else you'd like, too. thank you! ~Ali -------------------------- Free Geek turns 10 years old this year! We're throwing one helluva party on October 2nd to celebrate this momentous occasion, complete with a Junk to Funk trashion show and live music. More information about the geeky festivities can be found here: http://www.freegeek.org/free-geeks-10-year-anniversary-party/ Hope to see you there! ~Ali Briggs Reuse Program Coordinator, Free Geek ali at freegeek.org ------------------------------------------------------- From merlyn at stonehenge.com Fri Sep 17 10:46:39 2010 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:46:39 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Anyone seen Michael Schwern in the past five days? In-Reply-To: <86wrqmtq9j.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> (Randal L. Schwartz's message of "Wed, 15 Sep 2010 18:45:44 -0700") References: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100915231109.GB15820@joshheumann.com> <09C853A8-EDA6-46AC-A043-ACA20E6C7B19@gmail.com> <86wrqmtq9j.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <86sk18jm9s.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Randal" == Randal L Schwartz writes: >>>>> "Ingy" == Ingy dot Net writes: Ingy> 18:34 < ingy> seen schwern Ingy> 18:34 < purl> schwern was last seen on #pdx.pm 2 days, 3 hours, 6 minutes Ingy> and 44 seconds ago, saying: Make the software easy and the hardware Ingy> possible. Don't tell merlyn!!! [Sep 13 22:27:39 2010] Randal> Heh. And for the record, Schwern was found, in time. Disaster averted. Move along, nothing to see here. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From andy at petdance.com Fri Sep 17 10:50:06 2010 From: andy at petdance.com (Andy Lester) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:50:06 -0500 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Anyone seen Michael Schwern in the past five days? In-Reply-To: <86sk18jm9s.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> References: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100915231109.GB15820@joshheumann.com> <09C853A8-EDA6-46AC-A043-ACA20E6C7B19@gmail.com> <86wrqmtq9j.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <86sk18jm9s.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: On Sep 17, 2010, at 12:46 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > And for the record, I think the whole point of the thread is that there really needed to be no record. -- Andy Lester => andy at petdance.com => www.theworkinggeek.com => AIM:petdance From ben.hengst at gmail.com Fri Sep 17 10:52:28 2010 From: ben.hengst at gmail.com (benh) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 10:52:28 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Anyone seen Michael Schwern in the past five days? In-Reply-To: <86sk18jm9s.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> References: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100915231109.GB15820@joshheumann.com> <09C853A8-EDA6-46AC-A043-ACA20E6C7B19@gmail.com> <86wrqmtq9j.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <86sk18jm9s.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: Whew! I'm so glad that we finally found the schwern, I can finally get some sleep. On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:46, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Randal" == Randal L Schwartz writes: > >>>>>> "Ingy" == Ingy dot Net writes: > Ingy> 18:34 < ingy> seen schwern > Ingy> 18:34 < purl> schwern was last seen on #pdx.pm 2 days, 3 hours, 6 minutes > Ingy> and 44 seconds ago, saying: Make the software easy and the hardware > Ingy> possible. ?Don't tell merlyn!!! [Sep 13 22:27:39 2010] > > Randal> Heh. > > And for the record, Schwern was found, in time. ?Disaster averted. > Move along, nothing to see here. > > -- > Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 > > Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. > See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion > _______________________________________________ > Pdx-pm-list mailing list > Pdx-pm-list at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pdx-pm-list > -- benh~ http://three.sentenc.es/ From keithl at kl-ic.com Fri Sep 17 11:07:47 2010 From: keithl at kl-ic.com (Keith Lofstrom) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:07:47 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Anyone seen Michael Schwern in the past five days? In-Reply-To: References: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100915231109.GB15820@joshheumann.com> <09C853A8-EDA6-46AC-A043-ACA20E6C7B19@gmail.com> <86wrqmtq9j.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <86sk18jm9s.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <20100917180747.GB25995@gate.kl-ic.com> On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 10:52:28AM -0700, benh wrote: > Whew! I'm so glad that we finally found the schwern, I can finally get > some sleep. True, he is cuddly, but I prefer a teddy bear and a bottle of vodka. Keith -- Keith Lofstrom keithl at keithl.com Voice (503)-520-1993 KLIC --- Keith Lofstrom Integrated Circuits --- "Your Ideas in Silicon" Design Contracting in Bipolar and CMOS - Analog, Digital, and Scan ICs From teknotus at gmail.com Fri Sep 17 11:59:08 2010 From: teknotus at gmail.com (Daniel Johnson) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:59:08 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Anyone seen Michael Schwern in the past five days? In-Reply-To: <86sk18jm9s.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> References: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100915231109.GB15820@joshheumann.com> <09C853A8-EDA6-46AC-A043-ACA20E6C7B19@gmail.com> <86wrqmtq9j.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <86sk18jm9s.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: > And for the record, Schwern was found, in time. ?Disaster averted. > Move along, nothing to see here. Yes though after I found him we got separated while trying to escape a man with a pink unicorn bag trying to educate us about the history of Ireland. From ingy at ingy.net Fri Sep 17 12:18:17 2010 From: ingy at ingy.net (Ingy dot Net) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:18:17 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Anyone seen Michael Schwern in the past five days? In-Reply-To: References: <86aanj25s5.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <20100915231109.GB15820@joshheumann.com> <09C853A8-EDA6-46AC-A043-ACA20E6C7B19@gmail.com> <86wrqmtq9j.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <86sk18jm9s.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: Hmmm... Sounds like Marty Pauley... Schwern might be captive in the bowels of Tokyo now... I'll start a search party when I get to YAPC::Asia... On Fri, Sep 17, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Daniel Johnson wrote: > > And for the record, Schwern was found, in time. Disaster averted. > > Move along, nothing to see here. > > Yes though after I found him we got separated while trying to escape a > man with a pink unicorn bag trying to educate us about the history of > Ireland. > _______________________________________________ > Pdx-pm-list mailing list > Pdx-pm-list at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pdx-pm-list > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From schwern at pobox.com Sat Sep 18 15:29:18 2010 From: schwern at pobox.com (Michael G Schwern) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 15:29:18 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] =?windows-1252?q?Fwd=3A_Pittsburgh_Perl_Workshop_-_Octob?= =?windows-1252?q?er_9=9610_2010=2E?= Message-ID: <4C953D3E.6020403@pobox.com> I will be giving teh speaks at PPW! Test::Builder2 http://pghpw.org/ppw2010/talk/3009 REPENT!!! FOR THE END OF THE UNIX EPOCH IS NIGH!!! http://pghpw.org/ppw2010/talk/3035 Git For Ages 4 And Up http://pghpw.org/ppw2010/talk/3036 -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Pittsburgh Perl Workshop - October 9?10 2010. Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 12:13:54 -0400 From: Robert Blackwell Reply-To: ppw-announce at googlegroups.com To: ppw-announce at googlegroups.com We have another great Pittsburgh Perl Workshop planned for October 9?10 2010. We have great talks, great classes, Larry Wall keynoting and a great hallway track. This year PPW will be in the new Gates Center at CMU and it would be great to break it in with the biggest PPW yet. Now we need YOU! Register today http://pghpw.org/ppw2010/. Can't make it. We understand. You can still help us by telling others about the event. -- Insulting our readers is part of our business model. http://somethingpositive.net/sp07122005.shtml From keithl at kl-ic.com Sat Sep 18 17:15:50 2010 From: keithl at kl-ic.com (Keith Lofstrom) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 17:15:50 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] 32 bits? Seconds? For shame! Message-ID: <20100919001550.GC30140@gate.kl-ic.com> On Sat, Sep 18, 2010 at 03:29:18PM -0700, Michael G Schwern wrote: > REPENT!!! FOR THE END OF THE UNIX EPOCH IS NIGH!!! > http://pghpw.org/ppw2010/talk/3035 32 bits? Seconds???? The only natural unit for time is the Planck time (5.39E-44 seconds). Computers with clock periods shorter than that have bits that collapse into black holes, so we can take that as a reasonable lower bound. The universe is expected to evaporate into leptons and photons in about 1E36 years. So, we should represent time in computers as a 264 bit quantity. Since we haven't yet figured out (down to the zepto-yocto-second) when the universe started, we might as well keep the current Unix epoch, starting on January 1, 1970 . As I write this, it is now 0x000000000000000000003FB2AC0EF8519C1027A69E4B15634FC1C56DEF02120F Planck units since the epoch. I expect that some tightwad programmer will try to scrape by with only 255 bits plus sign, leading to the dreaded Y98910607320000000000000K problem. If that programmer is still around, they will have a LOT of accumulated code to fix. Keith -- Keith Lofstrom keithl at keithl.com Voice (503)-520-1993 KLIC --- Keith Lofstrom Integrated Circuits --- "Your Ideas in Silicon" Design Contracting in Bipolar and CMOS - Analog, Digital, and Scan ICs From merlyn at stonehenge.com Sat Sep 18 17:34:37 2010 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 17:34:37 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] 32 bits? Seconds? For shame! In-Reply-To: <20100919001550.GC30140@gate.kl-ic.com> (Keith Lofstrom's message of "Sat, 18 Sep 2010 17:15:50 -0700") References: <20100919001550.GC30140@gate.kl-ic.com> Message-ID: <86pqwah8pu.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Keith" == Keith Lofstrom writes: Keith> So, we should represent time Keith> in computers as a 264 bit quantity. Darn it - I can't assign each of those moments in time a unique IPv6 address! Time for IPv8, maybe? -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From schwern at pobox.com Sat Sep 18 17:54:34 2010 From: schwern at pobox.com (Michael G Schwern) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 17:54:34 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] 32 bits? Seconds? For shame! In-Reply-To: <86pqwah8pu.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> References: <20100919001550.GC30140@gate.kl-ic.com> <86pqwah8pu.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> Message-ID: <4C955F4A.1080106@pobox.com> On 2010.9.18 5:34 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: >>>>>> "Keith" == Keith Lofstrom writes: > Keith> So, we should represent time > Keith> in computers as a 264 bit quantity. > > Darn it - I can't assign each of those moments in time a unique IPv6 > address! Time for IPv8, maybe? Can I steal these for my talk? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze??? -- The mind is a terrible thing, and it must be stopped. From merlyn at stonehenge.com Sat Sep 18 18:00:48 2010 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 2010 18:00:48 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] 32 bits? Seconds? For shame! In-Reply-To: <4C955F4A.1080106@pobox.com> (Michael G. Schwern's message of "Sat, 18 Sep 2010 17:54:34 -0700") References: <20100919001550.GC30140@gate.kl-ic.com> <86pqwah8pu.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> <4C955F4A.1080106@pobox.com> Message-ID: <86lj6yh7i7.fsf@red.stonehenge.com> >>>>> "Michael" == Michael G Schwern writes: Michael> Can I steal these for my talk? Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze??? Depends on whom you are addressing. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Smalltalk/Perl/Unix consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See http://methodsandmessages.vox.com/ for Smalltalk and Seaside discussion From publiustemp-pdxpm at yahoo.com Mon Sep 20 02:26:47 2010 From: publiustemp-pdxpm at yahoo.com (Ovid) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 02:26:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Pdx-pm] 32 bits? Seconds? For shame! In-Reply-To: <4C955F4A.1080106@pobox.com> Message-ID: <445360.38803.qm@web65711.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> --- On Sun, 19/9/10, Michael G Schwern wrote: > From: Michael G Schwern > Schwartz wrote: > >>>>>> "Keith" == Keith Lofstrom > writes: > > Keith> So, we should represent time > > Keith> in computers as a 264 bit quantity. > > > > Darn it - I can't assign each of those moments in time > a unique IPv6 > > address!? Time for IPv8, maybe? > > Can I steal these for my talk?? > Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze??? If you don't steal these for your talk, you're a fool. Now I don't know nuthin' 'bout nobody else, but I didn't see damned thing, officer. Cheers, Bubba -- Buy the book - http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/perlhks/ Tech blog - http://blogs.perl.org/users/ovid/ Twitter - http://twitter.com/OvidPerl Official Perl 6 Wiki - http://www.perlfoundation.org/perl6 From jkeen at verizon.net Mon Sep 20 17:21:31 2010 From: jkeen at verizon.net (James E Keenan) Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2010 20:21:31 -0400 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Oct 16 Gathering of Parrot Developers: Space Wanted Message-ID: Friends, I will be in Portland during part of the second week in October. I hope to be attending the PDX.pm meeting scheduled for Wed, Oct 13. The following Saturday, I'm suggesting we organize a gathering of the Parrot developers who live in the Pacific Northwest -- and anyone else who wants to make their way to Portland on Sat, Oct 16. I've written a more complete posting about this idea on the Parrot blog and on the parrot-dev mailing list; you can read that here: http://preview.tinyurl.com/27xa2va But we don't have a space for this gathering yet. Ideally, we'd like a space that would be comfortable for 5-15 people to meet from approx 900 to 1800 or 1900 hours. We would need adequate wireless Net access. But otherwise our needs would be minimal. (And we hope our costs will be, too :-) ) The morning part of our session would mainly be a discussion among Parrot developers, but I imagine that in the afternoon it will simply be a hacking session in which all other open source developers are welcome to drop by. If you have suggestions for a suitable location, please send them to me and/or Jonathan Leto. If you see me lurking on #pdx.pm, you can ping me there as well. Thank you very much. Jim Keenan From john at digitalmx.com Thu Sep 23 11:27:03 2010 From: john at digitalmx.com (John Springer) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 19:27:03 +0100 Subject: [Pdx-pm] scotlander? Message-ID: A few months ago, there was an email on this list from someone in Scotland who was visitng Portland. Does anyone have that contact info? I'm looking for a perl guy in Scotland. J -- John Springer Somewhere in Portland Where it's probably raining. From jeffery.hammock at gmail.com Thu Sep 23 12:56:27 2010 From: jeffery.hammock at gmail.com (Jeff Hammock) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:56:27 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] scotlander? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4C9BB0EB.4040506@gmail.com> Would this be what you are looking for? On 9/23/2010 11:27 AM, John Springer wrote: > A few months ago, there was an email on this list from someone in Scotland who was visitng Portland. Does anyone have that contact info? I'm looking for a perl guy in Scotland. > > J > > -- > John Springer > Somewhere in Portland > Where it's probably raining. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Pdx-pm-list mailing list > Pdx-pm-list at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pdx-pm-list > -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: Aaron Crane Subject: Re: [Pdx-pm] 2010 shirt order form Date: Sat, 26 Jun 2010 18:19:42 +0100 Size: 4183 URL: From ajsavige at yahoo.com.au Thu Sep 23 14:36:49 2010 From: ajsavige at yahoo.com.au (Andrew Savige) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:36:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Pdx-pm] scotlander? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <269056.35086.qm@web56407.mail.re3.yahoo.com> John Springer wrote: > I'm looking for a perl guy in Scotland. Yesterday, there was a reported Schwern sighting at a restaurant in Edinburgh, eating Haggis. He was wearing a kilt. /-\ From schwern at pobox.com Thu Sep 23 14:50:05 2010 From: schwern at pobox.com (Michael G Schwern) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 14:50:05 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] scotlander? In-Reply-To: <4C9BB0EB.4040506@gmail.com> References: <4C9BB0EB.4040506@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4C9BCB8D.9040300@pobox.com> That would be Aaron Crane who runs (or ran) Edinburgh.pm. http://edinburgh.pm.org/ On 2010.9.23 12:56 PM, Jeff Hammock wrote: > Would this be what you are looking for? > > On 9/23/2010 11:27 AM, John Springer wrote: >> A few months ago, there was an email on this list from someone in Scotland >> who was visitng Portland. Does anyone have that contact info? I'm looking >> for a perl guy in Scotland. -- 40. I do not have super-powers. -- The 213 Things Skippy Is No Longer Allowed To Do In The U.S. Army http://skippyslist.com/list/ From schwern at pobox.com Thu Sep 23 16:09:53 2010 From: schwern at pobox.com (Michael G Schwern) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:09:53 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] scotlander? In-Reply-To: <269056.35086.qm@web56407.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <269056.35086.qm@web56407.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4C9BDE41.2020202@pobox.com> On 2010.9.23 2:36 PM, Andrew Savige wrote: > John Springer wrote: >> I'm looking for a perl guy in Scotland. > > Yesterday, there was a reported Schwern sighting at a restaurant in > Edinburgh, eating Haggis. He was wearing a kilt. Its true! I loves me some well made Haggis. ua suggested my new theme song. s/Bill/Schwern/g http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aErNjERoLJM -- 125. Two drink limit does not mean two kinds of drinks. -- The 213 Things Skippy Is No Longer Allowed To Do In The U.S. Army http://skippyslist.com/list/ From fashizzlepop at gmail.com Thu Sep 23 16:27:43 2010 From: fashizzlepop at gmail.com (Brady Sullivan) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:27:43 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] scotlander? In-Reply-To: <4C9BDE41.2020202@pobox.com> References: <269056.35086.qm@web56407.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <4C9BDE41.2020202@pobox.com> Message-ID: Bill? I'm more familiar with: s/Waldo/Scwern/g Sent from my iPhone On Sep 23, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Michael G Schwern wrote: > On 2010.9.23 2:36 PM, Andrew Savige wrote: >> John Springer wrote: >>> I'm looking for a perl guy in Scotland. >> >> Yesterday, there was a reported Schwern sighting at a restaurant in >> Edinburgh, eating Haggis. He was wearing a kilt. > > Its true! I loves me some well made Haggis. > > ua suggested my new theme song. s/Bill/Schwern/g > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aErNjERoLJM > > > -- > 125. Two drink limit does not mean two kinds of drinks. > -- The 213 Things Skippy Is No Longer Allowed To Do In The U.S. Army > http://skippyslist.com/list/ > _______________________________________________ > Pdx-pm-list mailing list > Pdx-pm-list at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pdx-pm-list From fashizzlepop at gmail.com Thu Sep 23 17:52:30 2010 From: fashizzlepop at gmail.com (Brady Sullivan) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:52:30 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] scotlander? In-Reply-To: <4C9BDE41.2020202@pobox.com> References: <269056.35086.qm@web56407.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <4C9BDE41.2020202@pobox.com> Message-ID: <1A4B8836-26D8-485A-ACE1-22AADCC98B23@gmail.com> Wow.. I totally didn't even see the YouTube link. xD but I like it. And sorry for butchering the spelling of Schwern. My bad. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 23, 2010, at 4:09 PM, Michael G Schwern wrote: > On 2010.9.23 2:36 PM, Andrew Savige wrote: >> John Springer wrote: >>> I'm looking for a perl guy in Scotland. >> >> Yesterday, there was a reported Schwern sighting at a restaurant in >> Edinburgh, eating Haggis. He was wearing a kilt. > > Its true! I loves me some well made Haggis. > > ua suggested my new theme song. s/Bill/Schwern/g > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aErNjERoLJM > > > -- > 125. Two drink limit does not mean two kinds of drinks. > -- The 213 Things Skippy Is No Longer Allowed To Do In The U.S. Army > http://skippyslist.com/list/ > _______________________________________________ > Pdx-pm-list mailing list > Pdx-pm-list at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pdx-pm-list From john at digitalmx.com Thu Sep 23 21:55:31 2010 From: john at digitalmx.com (John Springer) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 05:55:31 +0100 Subject: [Pdx-pm] scotlander? In-Reply-To: <4C9BDE41.2020202@pobox.com> References: <269056.35086.qm@web56407.mail.re3.yahoo.com> <4C9BDE41.2020202@pobox.com> Message-ID: They have haggis pizza at Tescos (like Safeway). It's quite good. On Sep 24, 2010, at 12:09 AM, Michael G Schwern wrote: > On 2010.9.23 2:36 PM, Andrew Savige wrote: >> John Springer wrote: >>> I'm looking for a perl guy in Scotland. >> >> Yesterday, there was a reported Schwern sighting at a restaurant in >> Edinburgh, eating Haggis. He was wearing a kilt. > > Its true! I loves me some well made Haggis. > > ua suggested my new theme song. s/Bill/Schwern/g > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aErNjERoLJM > > > -- > 125. Two drink limit does not mean two kinds of drinks. > -- The 213 Things Skippy Is No Longer Allowed To Do In The U.S. Army > http://skippyslist.com/list/ > _______________________________________________ > Pdx-pm-list mailing list > Pdx-pm-list at pm.org > http://mail.pm.org/mailman/listinfo/pdx-pm-list > From jkeen at verizon.net Fri Sep 24 16:43:51 2010 From: jkeen at verizon.net (James E Keenan) Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2010 19:43:51 -0400 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Oct 16 Gathering of Parrot Developers: Space Wanted In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CAB934B-BB42-4C14-92AC-0BA8931B4905@verizon.net> I am pleased to report that this gathering will actually take place: Lucky Labrador Brewing 915 SE Hawthorne Blvd Portland, OR 97214 Saturday, October 16, 2010, 11:00 am-5:00 pm PT. We'll have our own room from the time Lucky Lab opens. We can stay past 5:00; we just won't have our own room past then. More details to come. Thanks to the PDX.pm folks who suggested locations. Thank you very much. Jim Keenan From ben.hengst at gmail.com Wed Sep 29 12:29:42 2010 From: ben.hengst at gmail.com (benh) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 12:29:42 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] Powells is looking to hire a Systems Administrator/Database Administrator Message-ID: Seems that the corporate team is looking to hire a SA/DBA so it's mostly MS work but if you or any one you know is interested. Sadly you would not be sitting next to me, but I think that you'll survive. jobs desc: http://tbe.taleo.net/NA7/ats/careers/requisition.jsp?org=POWELLS&cws=1&rid=28 -- benh~ http://three.sentenc.es/ From enobacon at gmail.com Wed Sep 29 23:14:01 2010 From: enobacon at gmail.com (Seven till Seven) Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 23:14:01 -0700 Subject: [Pdx-pm] October meeting in two weeks -- lists and then some Message-ID: <201009292314.01405.enobacon@gmail.com> Wed. October 13th, 6:53pm at FreeGeek -- 1731 SE 10th Ave. Practical Lists / Utilities pulled from Fennec speaker: Chad Granum Chad will give 2 shorter talks in a row. The first talk will deal with lists, what they are, how to use them. The second talk is a short presentation on several useful tools/utilities that started as part of the Fennec project but have been pulled out for general use. Practical Lists Chad will define what a list is and how it differs from an array. He will cover tools such as grep and map, as well as some List::Util functions. He will explain how you may start using lists in more places when you understand how they work. Utilities pulled from Fennec Fennec was a large undertaking, it also required implementing a few new ideas. Many of the new ideas are useful outside of the Fennec project. Chad will cover the following until he runs out of time: Exporter::Declare Method::Workflow Child Exodist::Util Devel::CallerStack As always, the meeting will be followed by social hour at the LuckyLab. -- http://pdx.pm.org