From masque at pound.perl.org Mon Apr 2 10:25:50 2001 From: masque at pound.perl.org (Masque) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:18 2004 Subject: [fwd] A good server/domain hoster? Message-ID: <20010402102550.A4427@pound.perl.org> ----- Forwarded message from owner-pdx-pm-list@pm.org ----- Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 14:19:49 -0600 From: owner-pdx-pm-list@pm.org X-Authentication-Warning: gocho.pm.org: majordomo set sender to owner-pdx-pm-list@pm.org using -f To: pdx-pm-list-approval@pm.org Subject: BOUNCE pdx-pm-list@pm.org: Non-member submission from ["Jeff Zucker" ] From mark at drapple.com Fri Apr 6 14:59:36 2001 From: mark at drapple.com (Mark Hartley) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:18 2004 Subject: Anyone out there Message-ID: <20010406125936.A23592@drapple.com> I'm new to this list, so I'll ask a couple of dumb questions. Is anyone else out there? When do you meet? Where do you meet? Mark. TIMTOWTDI From rs at crystalflame.net Sun Apr 8 21:43:05 2001 From: rs at crystalflame.net (Richard Soderberg) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:18 2004 Subject: Anyone out there In-Reply-To: <20010406125936.A23592@drapple.com> Message-ID: Where do we go, and when do we meet Answering these questions can sure be a feat Our members are like a house full of ghouls All that can say is that I know of no rules > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdx-pm-list@pm.org [mailto:owner-pdx-pm-list@pm.org]On > Behalf Of Mark Hartley > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 1:00 PM > To: pdx-pm-list@pm.org > Subject: Anyone out there > > > I'm new to this list, so I'll ask a couple of dumb questions. > > Is anyone else out there? > > When do you meet? > > Where do you meet? > > > > > Mark. > TIMTOWTDI > TIMTOWTDI From kellert at ohsu.edu Mon Apr 9 11:52:19 2001 From: kellert at ohsu.edu (Tom Keller) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:18 2004 Subject: Anyone out there Message-ID: But if you are stuck, mired down, hit a wall; The members of pdx-pm you should call. Responses, most useful, and all in good taste, Will come to your aid, save your ass, and posthaste. Thomas J. Keller, Ph.D. Oregon Health Sciences University MMI Core Facility 503-494-2442 kellert@ohsu.edu http://www.ohsu.edu/core >>> "Richard Soderberg" - 4/8/01 7:43 PM >>> Where do we go, and when do we meet Answering these questions can sure be a feat Our members are like a house full of ghouls All that can say is that I know of no rules > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdx-pm-list@pm.org [mailto:owner-pdx-pm-list@pm.org]On > Behalf Of Mark Hartley > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 1:00 PM > To: pdx-pm-list@pm.org > Subject: Anyone out there > > > I'm new to this list, so I'll ask a couple of dumb questions. > > Is anyone else out there? > > When do you meet? > > Where do you meet? > > > > > Mark. > TIMTOWTDI > TIMTOWTDI TIMTOWTDI From kellert at ohsu.edu Mon Apr 9 11:52:19 2001 From: kellert at ohsu.edu (Tom Keller) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:18 2004 Subject: Anyone out there Message-ID: But if you are stuck, mired down, hit a wall; The members of pdx-pm you should call. Responses, most useful, and all in good taste, Will come to your aid, save your ass, and posthaste. Thomas J. Keller, Ph.D. Oregon Health Sciences University MMI Core Facility 503-494-2442 kellert@ohsu.edu http://www.ohsu.edu/core >>> "Richard Soderberg" - 4/8/01 7:43 PM >>> Where do we go, and when do we meet Answering these questions can sure be a feat Our members are like a house full of ghouls All that can say is that I know of no rules > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pdx-pm-list@pm.org [mailto:owner-pdx-pm-list@pm.org]On > Behalf Of Mark Hartley > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 1:00 PM > To: pdx-pm-list@pm.org > Subject: Anyone out there > > > I'm new to this list, so I'll ask a couple of dumb questions. > > Is anyone else out there? > > When do you meet? > > Where do you meet? > > > > > Mark. > TIMTOWTDI > TIMTOWTDI TIMTOWTDI TIMTOWTDI From moiraine at qwest.net Mon Apr 9 17:29:10 2001 From: moiraine at qwest.net (A_Geekette) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:18 2004 Subject: Anyone out there References: Message-ID: <3AD237B5.B6D38069@qwest.net> There's this jerk who knows nothing of Perl. He makes me so mad I could just hurl. My eyes are all bleary, My job seems so weary. I need some relief or my hair will straight curl. hehe I'm doing the back-end of a web site and configuring the server (Apache on Linux...yes.) I don't realy need help so much as support. This guy....... He thinks Perl is just a scripting language. As in the lowest of the low. Moron. He's putting together the web site, but he knows nothing about them. He's a CE major for $%^& sakes. (excuse my language) He wants all these crazy things and to top it all off I'm working with RedHat of all things (well at least it aisn't Windows). I have it all worked out on how exactly to go about this stuff; I have pages and pages of notes, and the code is running about my head. I just can't seem to get it down in ink...so to speak. On a brighter note, I have become a true Geekette. I was working on getting a crashed file system running on a Linux box that also lost all its CMOS settings, doing research on this web site project, and painting my nails all at the same time. Mind you, I have one monitor for the two systems (three actually, but the third was via telnet via a VPN....won't even get into *that* configuration). My nails came out twice as good that day than when I actually concentrate on them. :-) Yey for me. Now all I have to do is get paid for being a geekette and I'll be set....hehe that rhymed. Have a good day. Tom Keller wrote: > But if you are stuck, mired down, hit a wall; > The members of pdx-pm you should call. > Responses, most useful, and all in good taste, > Will come to your aid, save your ass, and posthaste. > > Thomas J. Keller, Ph.D. > Oregon Health Sciences University > MMI Core Facility > 503-494-2442 > kellert@ohsu.edu > http://www.ohsu.edu/core > > >>> "Richard Soderberg" - 4/8/01 7:43 PM >>> > Where do we go, and when do we meet > Answering these questions can sure be a feat > Our members are like a house full of ghouls > All that can say is that I know of no rules > -- Geekette "Try Not. Do or do not. There is no try." -If you don't know who said this, I don't want to talk to you. ;-) "Nothing is impossible, no matter how improbable." -Anonymous TIMTOWTDI From gabrielle.roth at xo.com Tue Apr 10 11:59:50 2001 From: gabrielle.roth at xo.com (Roth, Gabrielle) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:18 2004 Subject: newbie syntax question Message-ID: <45EDA71CFF25D411A2E400508B6FC52A01F9EA4D@orportexch1.internal.nextlink.net> I'm maintaining a script written by my predecessor. Here's the relevant snippet with line numbers: 21 if (open (HINFO, "$snmpget '$router' '$community' '$oid' 2>/dev/null |")) { 22 while () 23 { 31 } 32 } 33 close HINFO; 34 } else { 35 die "failed to run $snmpget"; 36 } I have two questions, both regarding line 21: 1 - (probably more of a unix question) the redirection to /dev/null: I know this isn't the output of the command, because that's available via for the parsing loop. So what is this for? Is it dumping the exit status? Is it necessary? It works without it, but I'm wondering if it's some error handling thing that I can't test and won't know if it's broken until it breaks. :) 2 - what is the pipe for at the end of the command? I've tried it without this and I get this error: failed to run /usr/bin/snmpget at ./mrtg-cpustate line 35. Thanks for any pointers/insight! -gr TIMTOWTDI From jamesw at ichips.intel.com Tue Apr 10 12:22:44 2001 From: jamesw at ichips.intel.com (James W Walden) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:18 2004 Subject: newbie syntax question In-Reply-To: <45EDA71CFF25D411A2E400508B6FC52A01F9EA4D@orportexch1.internal.nextlink.net> Message-ID: On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Roth, Gabrielle wrote: > Here's the relevant snippet with line numbers: > 21 if (open (HINFO, "$snmpget '$router' '$community' '$oid' 2>/dev/null > |")) { > > 1 - (probably more of a unix question) the redirection to /dev/null: I know > this isn't the output of the command, because that's available via > for the parsing loop. So what is this for? Is it dumping the exit status? > Is it necessary? It works without it, but I'm wondering if it's some error > handling thing that I can't test and won't know if it's broken until it > breaks. :) Filehandle 2 is almost always STDERR so he's ignoring error output. > 2 - what is the pipe for at the end of the command? I've tried it without > this and I get this error: > failed to run /usr/bin/snmpget at ./mrtg-cpustate line 35. The pipe symbol at the end of a command tells perl that you want to access the output of the command in your filehandle (HINFO). A pipe at the beginning would indicate that you want to access the input of a command. You can't put pipes at both the beginning and end of the command, but if you want to access both the input and output of a command, you can use the IPC::Open2 and IPC::Open3 modules. Finally, I noticed that the code is missing this line: close HINFO or die "Command '$snmpget' failed with error code " . $?<<8 . "\n"; When running a command, perl's open forks a subprocess where the command is run. The open call can only see the return value of the fork() and so if it succeeds, all you know is that the fork() call returned successfully. You don't know whether the command executed successfully until you close the filehandle. James Walden | "Fall leaves blanket ground Sr Internet Software Engineer | Redmond dreams darkly, beware IMS, JFT-104, B-7 | Winter brings penguins" (503) 712-2241 | -- Kevin Hackman TIMTOWTDI From selena at chesnok.com Tue Apr 10 12:31:44 2001 From: selena at chesnok.com (selena) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:18 2004 Subject: newbie syntax question In-Reply-To: <45EDA71CFF25D411A2E400508B6FC52A01F9EA4D@orportexch1.internal.nextlink.net> References: <45EDA71CFF25D411A2E400508B6FC52A01F9EA4D@orportexch1.internal.nextlink.net> Message-ID: <15059.16038.424429.104741@basil.chesnok.com> hello! Roth, Gabrielle writes: > I'm maintaining a script written by my predecessor. > Here's the relevant snippet with line numbers: > 21 if (open (HINFO, "$snmpget '$router' '$community' '$oid' > 2>/dev/null > |")) { > 1 - (probably more of a unix question) the redirection to > /dev/null: I know this isn't the output of the command, because > that's available via for the parsing loop. So what is this > for? Is it dumping the exit status? Is it necessary? It works > without it, but I'm wondering if it's some error handling thing > that I can't test and won't know if it's broken until it breaks. :) the '2>' redirects STDERR to /dev/null. (in that same context, '1>/dev/null' would direct STDOUT to /dev/null) depending on what the fun parsing stuff is, you may/may not want to do something like '2>&1' to get the STDERR thrown in with the STDOUT and then have some checks for that... > 2 - what is the pipe for at the end of the command? I've tried it > without this and I get this error: failed to run /usr/bin/snmpget > at ./mrtg-cpustate line 35. the pipe at the end of the snmpget command opens a read-only filehandle that the command writes to. (the perlopentut manpage has examples of how to use the various redirection operators with open) you need that pipe so that you'll be able to access the output. also.. i don't know what other people think of this module, but I use Net::SNMP instead of calling the snmp* binaries these days. your script is pretty straightforward, but if you were to do something more complicated, you might have a look at it. i (heart) OOP. -selena -- you can't breathe life back into a lie. -- sleater-kinney, leave you behind TIMTOWTDI From tex at off.org Tue Apr 10 12:44:22 2001 From: tex at off.org (Austin Schutz) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:18 2004 Subject: newbie syntax question In-Reply-To: <45EDA71CFF25D411A2E400508B6FC52A01F9EA4D@orportexch1.internal.nextlink.net>; from gabrielle.roth@xo.com on Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 11:59:50AM -0500 References: <45EDA71CFF25D411A2E400508B6FC52A01F9EA4D@orportexch1.internal.nextlink.net> Message-ID: <20010410104422.G4538@gblx.net> On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 11:59:50AM -0500, Roth, Gabrielle wrote: > I'm maintaining a script written by my predecessor. > > Here's the relevant snippet with line numbers: > 21 if (open (HINFO, "$snmpget '$router' '$community' '$oid' 2>/dev/null > |")) { > 22 while () > 23 { > > 31 } > 32 } > 33 close HINFO; > 34 } else { > 35 die "failed to run $snmpget"; > 36 } > I have two questions, both regarding line 21: > 1 - (probably more of a unix question) the redirection to /dev/null: I know > this isn't the output of the command, because that's available via > for the parsing loop. So what is this for? Is it dumping the exit status? It's for ignoring STDERR of the snmpget process. > Is it necessary? It works without it, but I'm wondering if it's some error > handling thing that I can't test and won't know if it's broken until it > breaks. :) That's basically true, you won't know why snmpget failed if/when it does. The parsing routine should tell you you don't have any useful output but it can't tell you why. > 2 - what is the pipe for at the end of the command? I've tried it without > this and I get this error: > failed to run /usr/bin/snmpget at ./mrtg-cpustate line 35. > > Thanks for any pointers/insight! > This is a very basic question. You should pick up a copy of _Learning Perl_ or a similar book. Until then you should be able to do perldoc -f open on your machine, which has an explanation of "|" at the end of the string passed to open. Austin TIMTOWTDI From selena at chesnok.com Tue Apr 10 12:42:35 2001 From: selena at chesnok.com (selena) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:18 2004 Subject: newbie syntax question In-Reply-To: <20010410104422.G4538@gblx.net> References: <45EDA71CFF25D411A2E400508B6FC52A01F9EA4D@orportexch1.internal.nextlink.net> <20010410104422.G4538@gblx.net> Message-ID: <15059.17670.88473.883644@basil.chesnok.com> Austin Schutz writes: > This is a very basic question. awww... not so basic, tex. i believe that my first question was, "so, how the hell do i tell if a variable is an int or a char in this damn language?" or maybe, "how does anyone make any sense out of anyone else's code?" heh. -selena TIMTOWTDI From merlyn at stonehenge.com Tue Apr 10 13:41:28 2001 From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:18 2004 Subject: event to celebrate my continued status as a felon Message-ID: In case you missed the whole slashdot thing or the posting to fors-announce (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fors-announce/message/17), I'm still a felon, says the Oregon Appeals Court. To celebrate (or help me forget, or something), I've getting some of my closest friends together (including y'all). Details: What: party to celebrate my continued status as a Felon Where: Strait Shots (formerly the Shanty) at 5134 SW B-H Hwy (near Shattuck) When: this Thursday, starting 6:30-ish or so, continuing to midnight if you want to hear me sing karaoke... Why: because "you like me, you really like me!" Strait Shots has a small but passable selection of microbrew, decent (but limited) pub-style food, darts and pooltables, and Karaoke starting at 9:30pm, which I'll be staying for. I'd be honored if some of you could make it. I realize it's short notice, but hey, it's a casual event. And I wouldn't mind Perl or legal-case questions, as long as you don't interfere with my drinking or singing. :) -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 Perl/Unix/security consulting, Technical writing, Comedy, etc. etc. See PerlTraining.Stonehenge.com for onsite and open-enrollment Perl training! TIMTOWTDI From shkelley at nstep.net Tue Apr 10 14:37:24 2001 From: shkelley at nstep.net (Sean and Sue Kelley) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:18 2004 Subject: Hi All Message-ID: <004b01c0c1f5$b1559c60$5b2481d0@NetStep.nstep.net> Hello everyone, My name is Sean Kelley. I am originally from Milwaukie but I moved to Idaho for Ricks college and I am still working on my associates in CS. I have three great kids and I am LDS and I only have one wife don't worry:) I have been reading your email posts and I finally got the, well, ambition to write and say hi. Hi. Ok. Well I feel I am still an Oregonian and I am somewhat living through you guys missing Oregon and I do love perl and my family of course:) Some day I will come back. Oh, yes, I will. Not to my family, I am still with them. I meant Oregon. I try to tell people that the Oregon rain is wonderful but when I am in Portland the news complains about it. Well I am done blabbing. Have a nice day:) And sorry Randal for not being able to be there to support you in your problems. You could tell the law to email me and I will tell them you write nice emails.:) Sean H. Kelley shkelley@nstep.net PS. How do I go about getting a cool email like Larry@Wall.org well I would probably use something a little different like Sean@kelley.org. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/archives/pdx-pm-list/attachments/20010410/70891ed4/attachment.htm From tex at off.org Tue Apr 10 15:03:53 2001 From: tex at off.org (Austin Schutz) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:18 2004 Subject: newbie syntax question In-Reply-To: <15059.17670.88473.883644@basil.chesnok.com>; from selena@chesnok.com on Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 10:42:35AM -0700 References: <45EDA71CFF25D411A2E400508B6FC52A01F9EA4D@orportexch1.internal.nextlink.net> <20010410104422.G4538@gblx.net> <15059.17670.88473.883644@basil.chesnok.com> Message-ID: <20010410130353.H4538@gblx.net> On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 10:42:35AM -0700, selena wrote: > Austin Schutz writes: > > > This is a very basic question. > > awww... not so basic, tex. i believe that my first question was, "so, > how the hell do i tell if a variable is an int or a char in this damn > language?" or maybe, "how does anyone make any sense out of anyone > else's code?" > Maybe I've just been a cranky sysadmin for too long, but IMO any question that can be answered by a very brief perusal of available docs or an introductory tutorial of the language is basic. As for the bit about trying to make sense out of others' code, well, I'm still working on that bit myself :-) Austin TIMTOWTDI From kellert at ohsu.edu Tue Apr 10 17:49:13 2001 From: kellert at ohsu.edu (Tom Keller) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:18 2004 Subject: parsing Excel spreadsheets and workbooks Message-ID: Looks like I'm going to be parsing some Excel workbooks and enclosed worksheets. The appropriate module seems to be Spreadsheet::ParseExcel. Does anyone know of some good examples of its use? The documentation seems pretty sparse. Thanks for any suggestions. Tom K. Thomas J. Keller, Ph.D. Oregon Health Sciences University MMI Core Facility 503-494-2442 kellert@ohsu.edu http://www.ohsu.edu/core TIMTOWTDI From moiraine at qwest.net Tue Apr 10 18:21:09 2001 From: moiraine at qwest.net (A_Geekette) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:18 2004 Subject: Poetry Message-ID: <3AD39565.8C6D35CA@qwest.net> It seemed like there were only three people on the list. There hadn't been much activity. I apologize if my poem insulted anyone. -- Geekette "Try Not. Do or do not. There is no try." -If you don't know who said this, I don't want to talk to you. ;-) "Nothing is impossible, no matter how improbable." -Anonymous TIMTOWTDI From MartinSchneider at TNTSoftware.com Tue Apr 10 18:50:00 2001 From: MartinSchneider at TNTSoftware.com (Martin Schneider) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:18 2004 Subject: parsing Excel spreadsheets and workbooks Message-ID: <1F3B1A794C07D511900900508BA8FA6203431C@SOL> Tom, Have not worked with this, but it might be another resource: http://homepage.eircom.net/~jmcnamara/perl/ -- Please contact us if you have any further questions or comments. Thank you, Martin Schneider TNT Software - Product Support 2001 Main Street Vancouver, WA 98660 Tel: 360.546.0878 FAX: 360.546.5017 http://www.TNTSoftware.com -----Original Message----- From: Tom Keller [mailto:kellert@ohsu.edu] Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 3:49 PM To: pdx-pm-list@pm.org Subject: parsing Excel spreadsheets and workbooks Looks like I'm going to be parsing some Excel workbooks and enclosed worksheets. The appropriate module seems to be Spreadsheet::ParseExcel. Does anyone know of some good examples of its use? The documentation seems pretty sparse. Thanks for any suggestions. Tom K. Thomas J. Keller, Ph.D. Oregon Health Sciences University MMI Core Facility 503-494-2442 kellert@ohsu.edu http://www.ohsu.edu/core TIMTOWTDI TIMTOWTDI From jeff at vpservices.com Tue Apr 24 19:32:38 2001 From: jeff at vpservices.com (Jeff Zucker) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:18 2004 Subject: parsing Excel spreadsheets and workbooks References: Message-ID: <3AE61B26.57736A15@vpservices.com> Tom Keller wrote: > > Looks like I'm going to be parsing some Excel workbooks and enclosed worksheets. > The appropriate module seems to be Spreadsheet::ParseExcel. Could be. Depends on what you mean by "parsing". You might also think about treating the spreadsheet data as a series of ODBC data sources and get at it through DBI and DBD::ODBC. If that sounds like something you'd want to do and you need help on that end, give a holler. -- Jeff TIMTOWTDI From jeff at vpservices.com Wed Apr 11 11:01:56 2001 From: jeff at vpservices.com (Jeff Zucker) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:18 2004 Subject: parsing Excel spreadsheets and workbooks References: Message-ID: <3AD47FF4.2CBB7A02@vpservices.com> Tom Keller wrote: > > >>> "Jeff Zucker" - 4/24/01 5:32 PM >>> > Tom Keller wrote: > > > > Looks like I'm going to be parsing some Excel workbooks and enclosed worksheets. > > The appropriate module seems to be Spreadsheet::ParseExcel. > > Could be. Depends on what you mean by "parsing". You might also think > about treating the spreadsheet data as a series of ODBC data sources and > get at it through DBI and DBD::ODBC. If that sounds like something > you'd want to do and you need help on that end, give a holler. > > > It does Jeff: HOLLER. > Specifically, how would I identify and read the different worksheets within a workbook? Hi Tom, AFAIK, the easiest way is to use named ranges. So suppose that you have a range on sheet #1 called "parts" and a named range on sheet #2 named "transactions", you would access all the rows of "transactions like this: use DBI; my $path = 'd:/htdocs/cgi-bin/test_snippets/'; my $driver = 'ODBC:driver=Microsoft Excel Driver (*.xls)'; my $workbook = 'dbi-excel-2.xls'; my $named_range = 'transactions'; my $dbh = DBI->connect( "dbi:$driver;Dbq=$path$workbook",,,{RaiseError=>1} ); print $dbh->selectrow_array("SELECT * FROM $named_range"); Alternatively, you might be able to specify an entire worksheet as a table by using the ODBC manager in windoze to create a DSN for a specific worksheet within a specific workbook but I haven't tried that. Hope that helps! -- Jeff TIMTOWTDI From jeff at vpservices.com Wed Apr 11 11:14:10 2001 From: jeff at vpservices.com (Jeff Zucker) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:18 2004 Subject: parsing Excel spreadsheets and workbooks References: <3AD47FF4.2CBB7A02@vpservices.com> Message-ID: <3AD482D2.4C451A52@vpservices.com> Jeff Zucker wrote: > print $dbh->selectrow_array("SELECT * FROM $named_range"); Oh, and BTW, the first row of the named range will be treated as the list of column names so your querries don't have to be generic. You can, in fact use any SQL query supported by ODBC. There are various options for specifying or auto-generating the data types of the columns and other features. See http://www.able-consulting.com/ADO_Conn.htm#ODBCDriverForExcel and http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/psdk/dasdk/odbc6ho3.htm -- Jeff TIMTOWTDI From moiraine at qwest.net Wed Apr 11 18:06:14 2001 From: moiraine at qwest.net (A_Geekette) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:18 2004 Subject: Poetry Message-ID: <3AD4E366.CD296A62@qwest.net> Thanks guys. I've been getting a lot of criticisim on clpm. I'm a newbie to the group and this one, but I am by no means a newbie to programming. OTOH, I'm not a guru or an expert. Apparently, I don't know the rules. Then again, they aren't realy criticising my Perl, just my clpm-ettiquette. Maybe, I should look on the bright side in that respect. Maybe I should introduce myself. :-) Second msg to follow: "Hi, I'm Elizabeth: An Introduction" -- Geekette "Try Not. Do or do not. There is no try." -If you don't know who said this, I don't want to talk to you. ;-) "Nothing is impossible, no matter how improbable." -Anonymous TIMTOWTDI From moiraine at qwest.net Wed Apr 11 18:44:15 2001 From: moiraine at qwest.net (A_Geekette) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:18 2004 Subject: Hi, I'm Elizabeth: An Introduction Message-ID: <3AD4EC4F.ED61ADA2@qwest.net> HI I have an Assoc in Computer Technology. I'm going to PSU for CS. I'm a junior. I've lived in Portland most of my life. I'm 22. I'm dating JAPH who has gone to some Perl Monger meetings. I love programming and I love Perl. I've programmed for about 4 years and have known Perl for about 2 years. I even recieved an award for a web based message board I wrote in Perl (no mods) on a Debian Linux box. The biggest project I'm working on is a web site for an undisclosed college group. I'm building the site (Perl and DHTML) and the server (Linux and Apache). The only unfortunate thing about this project is the "project leader", who doesn't know much about web design or Linux and isn't much of a leader. He pisses me off mostly, but I need the practice and have finally gotten him to leave me alone. Of course I had to insult his family and wow him with a 20 page report I did on Perl and CGI in general, but hey that's business. :-) I've only recently gotten involved with Perl groups like this one and the usenet's comp.lang.perl*. I've been doing a lot of research for this site, so I ran into the groups and decided to join in. Have a nice day. Elizabeth -- Geekette "Try Not. Do or do not. There is no try." -If you don't know who said this, I don't want to talk to you. ;-) "Nothing is impossible, no matter how improbable." -Anonymous TIMTOWTDI From shkelley at nstep.net Sun Apr 15 13:49:18 2001 From: shkelley at nstep.net (Sean and Sue Kelley) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:18 2004 Subject: Easter Message-ID: <001501c0c5dc$c7690740$5b2481d0@NetStep.nstep.net> Happy Easter!!! And for those who don't believe in Jesus then Happy Bunny Easter!!! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://mail.pm.org/archives/pdx-pm-list/attachments/20010415/7a817486/attachment.htm From rs at crystalflame.net Sun Apr 15 14:11:20 2001 From: rs at crystalflame.net (Richard Soderberg) Date: Wed Aug 4 00:05:18 2004 Subject: [test] double messages? Message-ID: Seeing if this message hits me twice. Ignore and delete unless you get it twice as well. R. TIMTOWTDI