From zach at pabst.bendnet.com  Mon Apr 10 22:22:04 2000
From: zach at pabst.bendnet.com (Zach Zurflu)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:05:07 2004
Subject: test
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10004102021420.12297-100000@localhost>

is this list working?

-z

TIMTOWTDI

From masque at pound.perl.org  Tue Apr 11 03:21:21 2000
From: masque at pound.perl.org (Masque)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:05:07 2004
Subject: test
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10004102021420.12297-100000@localhost>; from zach@pabst.bendnet.com on Mon, Apr 10, 2000 at 08:22:04PM -0700
References: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10004102021420.12297-100000@localhost>
Message-ID: <20000411032121.C16987@pound.perl.org>

On Mon, Apr 10, 2000 at 08:22:04PM -0700, Zach Zurflu wrote:
> is this list working?

Indeed it is!  I'll even send something meaningful in a few
hours.

Paul.
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From masque at pound.perl.org  Tue Apr 11 13:17:42 2000
From: masque at pound.perl.org (Paul Blair)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:05:07 2004
Subject: Today!
Message-ID: <20000411131742.I26092@pound.perl.org>

Okay, kids.  Today's the 11th.  

<gory details snipped>

Still no firm location for tonight's meeting.  What shall 
we do?  I see three immediate options:

1.  Put this off for two weeks.
2.  Grab some take-out chinese, meet in my living room 
    and throw a DVD in the player afterwards.
3.  Head down to Whosong and Larry's by the waterfront
    about 7pm tonight and meet there.

Let's hear your thoughts.  :]

Paul.
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From merlyn at stonehenge.com  Tue Apr 11 14:14:02 2000
From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:05:07 2004
Subject: Today!
In-Reply-To: Paul Blair's message of "Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:17:42 -0500"
References: <20000411131742.I26092@pound.perl.org>
Message-ID: <m1purw4fid.fsf@halfdome.holdit.com>

>>>>> "Paul" == Paul Blair <masque@pound.perl.org> writes:

Paul> Okay, kids.  Today's the 11th.  
Paul> <gory details snipped>

Paul> Still no firm location for tonight's meeting.  What shall 
Paul> we do?  I see three immediate options:

Paul> 1.  Put this off for two weeks.

I won't be here. :)

Paul> 2.  Grab some take-out chinese, meet in my living room 
Paul>     and throw a DVD in the player afterwards.

Bleh.

Paul> 3.  Head down to Whosong and Larry's by the waterfront
Paul>     about 7pm tonight and meet there.

That's probably the best for me.

-- 
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<merlyn@stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/>
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From sarah at pound.perl.org  Tue Apr 11 14:15:21 2000
From: sarah at pound.perl.org (Sarah Burcham)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:05:07 2004
Subject: Today!
In-Reply-To: <20000411131742.I26092@pound.perl.org>; from masque@pound.perl.org on Tue, Apr 11, 2000 at 01:17:42PM -0500
References: <20000411131742.I26092@pound.perl.org>
Message-ID: <20000411141521.D27345@pound.perl.org>

On Tue, Apr 11, 2000 at 01:17:42PM -0500, Paul Blair wrote:
> 1.  Put this off for two weeks.
> 2.  Grab some take-out chinese, meet in my living room 
>     and throw a DVD in the player afterwards.
> 3.  Head down to Whosong and Larry's by the waterfront
>     about 7pm tonight and meet there.

How about the pdx mongers field trip to stl?  There's still time to get here
for tonight. Oh, wait... that's called YAPC and that's pittsburg.

*sigh*

-sarah
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From zach at pabst.bendnet.com  Tue Apr 11 14:38:47 2000
From: zach at pabst.bendnet.com (Zach Zurflu)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:05:08 2004
Subject: Today!
In-Reply-To: <m1purw4fid.fsf@halfdome.holdit.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10004111230190.16275-100000@localhost>

i like options 2 and 3.

as far as who-song and larry's on the willamette is concerned, if you've
never been there, the directions are tricky.

the phone book and mapquest will tell you that it is on macadam but this
is not the case.

basically, take the directions that mapquest gives you, and then:

from macadam turn onto boundary towards the river (think downhill), go
about a block, take the first left onto landing drive, go about a block
and a half and take a right across the railroad tracks into the parking
lot at who-song and larry's.

their phone number is 223-8845 if you need to talk to them.

as an added incentive for attending the meeting i will buy a margarittas
for whomever shows up thirsty.

-z

On 11 Apr 2000, Randal L. Schwartz wrote:

> Paul> 3.  Head down to Whosong and Larry's by the waterfront
> Paul>     about 7pm tonight and meet there.
> 
> That's probably the best for me.

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From merlyn at stonehenge.com  Tue Apr 11 14:45:23 2000
From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:05:08 2004
Subject: Today!
In-Reply-To: Zach Zurflu's message of "Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:38:47 -0700 (PDT)"
References: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10004111230190.16275-100000@localhost>
Message-ID: <m1hfd84e24.fsf@halfdome.holdit.com>

>>>>> "Zach" == Zach Zurflu <zach@pabst.bendnet.com> writes:

Zach> as an added incentive for attending the meeting i will buy a margarittas
Zach> for whomever shows up thirsty.

Well, in that case, I'll show up thirrrrsty, and order a virgin
margaritta!

-- 
Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095
<merlyn@stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/>
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From jerome at mazu.net  Tue Apr 11 15:24:01 2000
From: jerome at mazu.net (Jerome)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:05:08 2004
Subject: New Guy
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000411132401.008cac00@mazu.net>

Hate to be the new guy, but I am.  How many people usually how up to these
meetings?

TIMTOWTDI

From zach at pabst.bendnet.com  Tue Apr 11 16:03:10 2000
From: zach at pabst.bendnet.com (Zach Zurflu)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:05:08 2004
Subject: New Guy
In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000411132401.008cac00@mazu.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10004111401210.16275-100000@localhost>

I think about 15-20 people showed up to the last one I attended.

Tonite it might just be the four of us. :)

-z

On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, Jerome wrote:

> Hate to be the new guy, but I am.  How many people usually how up to these
> meetings?

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From merlyn at stonehenge.com  Tue Apr 11 16:06:36 2000
From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:05:08 2004
Subject: New Guy
In-Reply-To: Jerome's message of "Tue, 11 Apr 2000 13:24:01 -0700"
References: <3.0.6.32.20000411132401.008cac00@mazu.net>
Message-ID: <m14s984aar.fsf@halfdome.holdit.com>

>>>>> "Jerome" == Jerome  <jerome@mazu.net> writes:

Jerome> Hate to be the new guy, but I am.  How many people usually how
Jerome> up to these meetings?

"how up"? :)

Well, I've been at PM meetings with 75 people, and ones with 3 people.

So, I'd guess, somewhere in between, unless it's not.

-- 
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From masque at pound.perl.org  Tue Apr 11 17:17:06 2000
From: masque at pound.perl.org (Masque)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:05:08 2004
Subject: Tonight!
Message-ID: <20000411171706.J26092@pound.perl.org>

Okay, sounds like Whosong/Larry's takes it.  Shall we say...7pm?
6:30pm?  6:30pm works for me, so unless there are objections...

See you there.  :]

Paul.


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From merlyn at stonehenge.com  Tue Apr 11 17:54:09 2000
From: merlyn at stonehenge.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:05:08 2004
Subject: Tonight!
In-Reply-To: Masque's message of "Tue, 11 Apr 2000 17:17:06 -0500"
References: <20000411171706.J26092@pound.perl.org>
Message-ID: <m1em8c2qr2.fsf@halfdome.holdit.com>

>>>>> "Masque" == Masque  <masque@pound.perl.org> writes:

Masque> Okay, sounds like Whosong/Larry's takes it.  Shall we say...7pm?
Masque> 6:30pm?  6:30pm works for me, so unless there are objections...

I'll probably be there in the 6:15 to 7-ish time frame.

-- 
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<merlyn@stonehenge.com> <URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/>
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From jasona at inetarena.com  Tue Apr 11 19:50:56 2000
From: jasona at inetarena.com (Jason Annin-White)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:05:08 2004
Subject: Tonight
Message-ID: <000101bfa419$29a54d60$2f0824d8@urquan.com>

I signed up a long time ago, but somehow I just got on the list.

I moved to Corvallis a few months ago, and I'm super bored. I'm half tempted
to drive there at 90 MPH, I could make it by 7:00 then. I just checked my
email and didn't know that there was a meeting until now. Are there meetings
every 11th?

Jason White

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From jerome at mazu.net  Wed Apr 12 10:40:42 2000
From: jerome at mazu.net (Jerome)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:05:08 2004
Subject: To Perl gurus
Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000412084042.008cc7e0@mazu.net>

Hello, sorry I didn't make it to the meeting.

Anyway what I was wondering is whether this is feasible:

I'd like to install Perl to a CD rom (burn) with any TK/TCL
stuff that I'd need for interface work for a win 95/98/00 
machine.

Think of it as a sort of visual-basic-but-it-works thing.

I don't want to install perl on their machine, I just want to 
run my scripts off the CD with the interpreter on the CD and any
other tools, etc on the CD.

Also I just have not found anything about compiling perl to an
executable for/on win 95/98/00.

Any ideas, comments or help would be appreciated.

Jerome

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From zach at pabst.bendnet.com  Wed Apr 12 11:15:52 2000
From: zach at pabst.bendnet.com (Zach Zurflu)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:05:08 2004
Subject: little keyboards
Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10004120915160.24569-100000@localhost>

what were those little keyboards that were discussed at last nights
meeting?

my wrists hurt!

-z

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From dustin.m.harris at intel.com  Wed Apr 12 11:35:04 2000
From: dustin.m.harris at intel.com (Harris, Dustin M)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:05:08 2004
Subject: little keyboards
Message-ID: <24881EF3F745D311AC6B0090276D21C2075B7663@FMSMSX105>

I use the happy hacker's keyboard.  Mine is the 'lite' model.  It won't
necessarily help your wrists any (I'd suggest a wrist rest for that), but if
you do use emacs you won't have to wiggle your pinky quite as far to get to
the ctrl key.

http://www.pfuca.com/products/hhkb/

-dustin

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zach Zurflu [mailto:zach@pabst.bendnet.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 9:16 AM
> To: pdx-pm-list@pm.org
> Subject: little keyboards
> 
> 
> what were those little keyboards that were discussed at last nights
> meeting?
> 
> my wrists hurt!
> 
> -z
> 
> TIMTOWTDI
> 

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From masque at pound.perl.org  Wed Apr 12 11:51:09 2000
From: masque at pound.perl.org (Masque)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:05:08 2004
Subject: little keyboards
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10004120915160.24569-100000@localhost>; from zach@pabst.bendnet.com on Wed, Apr 12, 2000 at 09:15:52AM -0700
References: <Pine.BSF.4.10.10004120915160.24569-100000@localhost>
Message-ID: <20000412115109.C3364@pound.perl.org>

On Wed, Apr 12, 2000 at 09:15:52AM -0700, Zach Zurflu wrote:
> what were those little keyboards that were discussed at last nights
> meeting?
> 
> my wrists hurt!
> 
> -z
> 
> TIMTOWTDI

http://www.rm-r.net/~masque/cam/keyboard.jpg is the one I use.
It's a "Great Quality Mini-Keyboard" from Fry's.  $20 when they 
go on sale, $27 otherwise.  I also use a gel wristpad which 
feels like a giant strip of flesh.  Very comfy.  I chose this
keyboard over the happy hacker due to its very short key travel,
which saves wear on my wrists.  I've had it a little over a year
and although I had to lubricate the backspace key, everything
else about the keyboard is great.  I don't look at my hands
when I type, however, the letters on this tend to rub off after
heavy use.  If you're not a touch typist, this may not be the
keyboard for you.

Paul.

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From jasona at inetarena.com  Wed Apr 12 20:33:11 2000
From: jasona at inetarena.com (Jason Annin-White)
Date: Wed Aug  4 00:05:08 2004
Subject: To Perl gurus
In-Reply-To: <3.0.6.32.20000412084042.008cc7e0@mazu.net>
Message-ID: <000001bfa4e8$3be69b80$2f0824d8@urquan.com>

You can run Perl from the CD fine as long as you makes sure to set your
environment variables first.  Perl comes with a C and C++ include file that
lets you compile perl scripts with a C compiler.  I've never done it, but I
know I've read about it.

Jason White

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pdx-pm-list@pm.org [mailto:owner-pdx-pm-list@pm.org]On
Behalf Of Jerome
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2000 8:41 AM
To: pdx-pm-list@pm.org
Subject: To Perl gurus


Hello, sorry I didn't make it to the meeting.

Anyway what I was wondering is whether this is feasible:

I'd like to install Perl to a CD rom (burn) with any TK/TCL
stuff that I'd need for interface work for a win 95/98/00
machine.

Think of it as a sort of visual-basic-but-it-works thing.

I don't want to install perl on their machine, I just want to
run my scripts off the CD with the interpreter on the CD and any
other tools, etc on the CD.

Also I just have not found anything about compiling perl to an
executable for/on win 95/98/00.

Any ideas, comments or help would be appreciated.

Jerome

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